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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: ws on June 25, 2013, 07:37 pm
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Hi guys,
My own fault I know but I gave out some product on credit to a few so-called friends, however they dont seem to want to pay back!
Is there a sensible way you could get it back, like getting a fake driving license on SR and somehow obtaining credit or something anonymously?
Roughing someone up wouldnt be a good idea, I like to keep a low profile, also there is a chance they may snitch on you!
I wouldn't normally look to do anything like this but it annoys me when you do someone a favour and they don't want to pay you back, also say they have no money then you hear of them out partying in town spending loads!
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Stealing their identity is sensible? If you're willing to steal from them, then just steal from them.
But no, there is no sensible way to get your money, other than asking them for their money. You're right, it's your fault, and you just have to learn from your mistake. Hopefully, one day, they will come to their senses and do the right thing.
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So, WS, this was IRL, not on here? (If you know they've been out partying)
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After you've asked them for the money back til you're blue in the face, forget it.
Next time don't be so trusting. I mean with relative strangers. If it's someone you love, then it wouldn't enter into it.
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... I don't understand what a fake driver's license would do for you? Oh! You mean you have their personal information and you want to get a loan in their name? Yeah, that won't work. You'd need their social security number at the very least, I think -- provided you're in the States, of course.
Sometimes people get trapped in one course of action, because they made an initial mistake and they keep compounding it time and time again to avoid that initial one. Maybe that has something to do with it. Remove that difficulty for your friend somehow, and you may get your money back in a hurry. It's very hard to admit you're in the wrong: often just admitting it to yourself is hard enough, let alone someone else.
They may also not have it. Stories of going out and spending loads aren't always reliable. For example, credit cards let you hang yourself and look like a bigshot, if you're into that sort of thing. For awhile it works... maybe that's all it is.
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No I am in UK, I know they have the money, they have good jobs and also go out partying weekly, go on holidays etc, this just rubs it in your face a bit! If they were poor and struggling to get by day to day I would never think about doing something to get money back I would take it on the chin and leave it and move on.
Could call it stealing I guess, but it is simular to what a loan company would do if you didnt pay back loan they would take your possessions and sell at auction.
The idea would be something like open up a mail order account, get some products shipped to a dead drop, pick them up and sell them and get money back that way.
Sensible?? Probably not, but if I was 100% sensible and law abiding citizen I wouldn't be on Silk Road! :)
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tell them they've got 4 hours or you're going to go round and demand the money back from their parents. i did that when someone tried to dodge paying me when i was selling, had my cash back within the hour 8)
mine was an empty threat but it worked, it's up to you whether you actually make a move on it or not
EDIT: actually find where their parents live before you make the threat, if they call your bluff send them a picture of the house
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Go to their house and demand the money back? It really isn't that complicated man.
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Just keep asking for it as often as you think is necessary. At a certain point, you're surely wasting your time chasing a bad debt. I'm not sure I understand the sense in developing an elaborate plot to get your funds back.
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Are they bigger and tougher than you? don't you have any friends to help you out? roughly where do you live, like, nearest city? I'm near Manchester, I'll come and bang some heads with you if you need help
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Yeah rough em up basically, doesn't have to be you...
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Yeah rough em up basically, doesn't have to be you...
Roughing someone up wouldnt be a good idea, I like to keep a low profile, also there is a chance they may snitch on you!
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No I am in UK, I know they have the money, they have good jobs and also go out partying weekly, go on holidays etc, this just rubs it in your face a bit! If they were poor and struggling to get by day to day I would never think about doing something to get money back I would take it on the chin and leave it and move on.
Could call it stealing I guess, but it is simular to what a loan company would do if you didnt pay back loan they would take your possessions and sell at auction.
The idea would be something like open up a mail order account, get some products shipped to a dead drop, pick them up and sell them and get money back that way.
Sensible?? Probably not, but if I was 100% sensible and law abiding citizen I wouldn't be on Silk Road! :)
Might sound daft and easier said than done, (i dont you or them) But they sound like pricks. Go over to one of their houses, Wait somewhere hidden, in a bush behind a tree, in a lane, whatever and when they walk past sneaky the prick, Just clock him in the back of the head with a bat or brick or whatever. carefull not to kill him though, Few hits to the back may do fine.
As long as you sneaky him, He cant say it was you, Never saw your face , a defence lawyer would have a field day if they did snitch.
Say "your name here" wants his cash back now. Phone or money your choice, or il go into your house right now and take what i want plus intrest dickhead.
Sounds harsh, but i have been there done that, and when they are doing to you what they have done to me, you are better to just get it over with. Its easier than it sounds, Once you have done it youl be like "well that was easy". I have an old "friend" that did this too me and i never fucking kicked the shit out of him and i regret it to this day, seriously. I actually get pissed even thinking about it, i wish i had just stabbed the fucking life out of him lol.
anyways mate. hope you get it back
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Have a stern word with them face to face.
Rock up at their house at random times of the day if theyre not answering phone, speak to whoever answers the door and tell them its an urgent personal matter.
If all else fails, do the moneys worth of damage to their property and unfriend them.
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Can "unfriend" be used in the real world? I thought it belonged only in the realms of t'internet. Did someone her -1 me for my comment? ??? :'( Thank you ;)
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No I am in UK, I know they have the money, they have good jobs and also go out partying weekly, go on holidays etc, this just rubs it in your face a bit! If they were poor and struggling to get by day to day I would never think about doing something to get money back I would take it on the chin and leave it and move on.
Could call it stealing I guess, but it is simular to what a loan company would do if you didnt pay back loan they would take your possessions and sell at auction.
The idea would be something like open up a mail order account, get some products shipped to a dead drop, pick them up and sell them and get money back that way.
Sensible?? Probably not, but if I was 100% sensible and law abiding citizen I wouldn't be on Silk Road! :)
I have been in the exact same situation, lent a supposed friend £100 as he was desperate to come out for a mutual friends birthday, three weeks had passed and no sign of my money even though I knew he'd been going out constantly, buying new stuff etc. I asked constantly and each time got fobbed of with some lie about his wages. Another two weeks had gone and I decided after five weeks it was time to take action, I invited him around mine said be good few a few drinks and a catch up went to my local supermarket brought the cheapest vodka I could get my hands on which was 1.7 litres for £20. Fake friend turned up I kept pouring him massive drinks and myself only little one until he was paralytic and passed out on the couch :) I looked in his wallet took £30 of the £50 he had in there, stole his iphone 4 and took half his cigarettes, woke him up a few hours later (he was still steaming drunk) said you have to go home and let him stumble out my door. He messaged me on facebook the next day asking "is my phone at yours? I was paralytic last night cant remember shit"unfortunately for him I sold the phone for £80 so made a £10 loss due to the vodka but not the end of the world. I have mentioned the money numerous times and he still fobs me off and I have decided not to make an effort with him anymore.
Sometimes to be honest it is for the best when it is with supposed friends as you get to see their true colors and it saves you a lot more in the long run.
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Can "unfriend" be used in the real world? I thought it belonged only in the realms of t'internet. Did someone her -1 me for my comment? ??? :'( Thank you ;)
Yes it can be. its not a fucking button.
You simply just stop being their friend.
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No I am in UK, I know they have the money, they have good jobs and also go out partying weekly, go on holidays etc, this just rubs it in your face a bit! If they were poor and struggling to get by day to day I would never think about doing something to get money back I would take it on the chin and leave it and move on.
Could call it stealing I guess, but it is simular to what a loan company would do if you didnt pay back loan they would take your possessions and sell at auction.
The idea would be something like open up a mail order account, get some products shipped to a dead drop, pick them up and sell them and get money back that way.
Sensible?? Probably not, but if I was 100% sensible and law abiding citizen I wouldn't be on Silk Road! :)
I have been in the exact same situation, lent a supposed friend £100 as he was desperate to come out for a mutual friends birthday, three weeks had passed and no sign of my money even though I knew he'd been going out constantly, buying new stuff etc. I asked constantly and each time got fobbed of with some lie about his wages. Another two weeks had gone and I decided after five weeks it was time to take action, I invited him around mine said be good few a few drinks and a catch up went to my local supermarket brought the cheapest vodka I could get my hands on which was 1.7 litres for £20. Fake friend turned up I kept pouring him massive drinks and myself only little one until he was paralytic and passed out on the couch :) I looked in his wallet took £30 of the £50 he had in there, stole his iphone 4 and took half his cigarettes, woke him up a few hours later (he was still steaming drunk) said you have to go home and let him stumble out my door. He messaged me on facebook the next day asking "is my phone at yours? I was paralytic last night cant remember shit"unfortunately for him I sold the phone for £80 so made a £10 loss due to the vodka but not the end of the world. I have mentioned the money numerous times and he still fobs me off and I have decided not to make an effort with him anymore.
Sometimes to be honest it is for the best when it is with supposed friends as you get to see their true colors and it saves you a lot more in the long run.
Haha thats not a bad idea, get them legless and steal they're money and phone! :)
Yes I am bigger than the people in question, however I could rough them up like you say but it only takes one free phone call to crimestoppers and you will have un-wanted heat from law enforcement, also in a small town my name would get around town, some king pins might like this but I wouldnt thats why I am after rough-em-up alternatives! :(
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Can "unfriend" be used in the real world? I thought it belonged only in the realms of t'internet. Did someone her -1 me for my comment? ??? :'( Thank you ;)
Yes it can be. its not a fucking button.
You simply just stop being their friend.
I was simply pointing out a new, made-up internet word. I'm a philistine you see, and a Luddite.
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No I am in UK, I know they have the money, they have good jobs and also go out partying weekly, go on holidays etc, this just rubs it in your face a bit! If they were poor and struggling to get by day to day I would never think about doing something to get money back I would take it on the chin and leave it and move on.
Could call it stealing I guess, but it is simular to what a loan company would do if you didnt pay back loan they would take your possessions and sell at auction.
The idea would be something like open up a mail order account, get some products shipped to a dead drop, pick them up and sell them and get money back that way.
Sensible?? Probably not, but if I was 100% sensible and law abiding citizen I wouldn't be on Silk Road! :)
I have been in the exact same situation, lent a supposed friend £100 as he was desperate to come out for a mutual friends birthday, three weeks had passed and no sign of my money even though I knew he'd been going out constantly, buying new stuff etc. I asked constantly and each time got fobbed of with some lie about his wages. Another two weeks had gone and I decided after five weeks it was time to take action, I invited him around mine said be good few a few drinks and a catch up went to my local supermarket brought the cheapest vodka I could get my hands on which was 1.7 litres for £20. Fake friend turned up I kept pouring him massive drinks and myself only little one until he was paralytic and passed out on the couch :) I looked in his wallet took £30 of the £50 he had in there, stole his iphone 4 and took half his cigarettes, woke him up a few hours later (he was still steaming drunk) said you have to go home and let him stumble out my door. He messaged me on facebook the next day asking "is my phone at yours? I was paralytic last night cant remember shit"unfortunately for him I sold the phone for £80 so made a £10 loss due to the vodka but not the end of the world. I have mentioned the money numerous times and he still fobs me off and I have decided not to make an effort with him anymore.
Sometimes to be honest it is for the best when it is with supposed friends as you get to see their true colors and it saves you a lot more in the long run.
Haha thats not a bad idea, get them legless and steal they're money and phone! :)
Yes I am bigger than the people in question, however I could rough them up like you say but it only takes one free phone call to crimestoppers and you will have un-wanted heat from law enforcement, also in a small town my name would get around town, some king pins might like this but I wouldnt thats why I am after rough-em-up alternatives! :(
IMHO never get police involved ever because if they get a whiff that it was you they will just return the unwanted favor and contact police on you, and to be honest if you are on SR it's probably something you could do without.
Trust me get them paralytic and steal there stuff ;) if they arent the type to pass out on booze add a few Valium to the drinks you pour them.
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Hi guys,
My own fault I know but I gave out some product on credit to a few so-called friends, however they dont seem to want to pay back!
Is there a sensible way you could get it back, like getting a fake driving license on SR and somehow obtaining credit or something anonymously?
Roughing someone up wouldnt be a good idea, I like to keep a low profile, also there is a chance they may snitch on you!
I wouldn't normally look to do anything like this but it annoys me when you do someone a favour and they don't want to pay you back, also say they have no money then you hear of them out partying in town spending loads!
Is this real life? Stop asking them for a while to make it seem as though you've given up or forgotten, and then out of the blue offer them a (very tempting) deal on another product. When they show up to make the purchase, take whatever money they bring and explain you're applying it to their debt, and that the product will be another £XXX - but this time no fronting. :)
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I've given up on the 2 people that owe me.. they wont even come around me, but that's probably because I called and told both of them if I see them ANYWHERE, I will beat the jackass shit out of them.
It would only take one punch.
Individual results may vary.
Sad thing is, one of them is a cousin.
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I've given up on the 2 people that owe me.. they wont even come around me, but that's probably because I called and told both of them if I see them ANYWHERE, I will beat the jackass shit out of them.
It would only take one punch.
Individual results may vary.
Sad thing is, one of them is a cousin.
If it was my cousin that owed me the money I would change my earlier approach slightly but stick with the stealing. Go to my cousins house when I know he is out and ask his girlfriend/parents/room mate etc whoever he lives with " hi cousins has left me a bag of stuff in his room to grab, can I run and get it" I'm not sure if it's the same with you but for me they would let me upstairs without a second thought. I would then steal the equivalent to the debt leave and text my cousin " I have stole your ps3,TV etc so don't have a bitch fit when you get in unless you want your parents/girlfriend to find out you have been borrowing money you cant repay, I will sell all your shit within 72 hours if you don't bring me the cash, either way we are evens :) ciao"
I am all about the stealing.
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I've given up on the 2 people that owe me.. they wont even come around me, but that's probably because I called and told both of them if I see them ANYWHERE, I will beat the jackass shit out of them.
It would only take one punch.
Individual results may vary.
Sad thing is, one of them is a cousin.
If it was my cousin that owed me the money I would change my earlier approach slightly but stick with the stealing. Go to my cousins house when I know he is out and ask his girlfriend/parents/room mate etc whoever he lives with " hi cousins has left me a bag of stuff in his room to grab, can I run and get it" I'm not sure if it's the same with you but for me they would let me upstairs without a second thought. I would then steal the equivalent to the debt leave and text my cousin " I have stole your ps3,TV etc so don't have a bitch fit when you get in unless you want your parents/girlfriend to find out you have been borrowing money you cant repay, I will sell all your shit within 72 hours if you don't bring me the cash, either way we are evens :) ciao"
I am all about the stealing.
That is a really good plan :)
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No I am in UK, I know they have the money, they have good jobs and also go out partying weekly, go on holidays etc, this just rubs it in your face a bit! If they were poor and struggling to get by day to day I would never think about doing something to get money back I would take it on the chin and leave it and move on.
Could call it stealing I guess, but it is simular to what a loan company would do if you didnt pay back loan they would take your possessions and sell at auction.
The idea would be something like open up a mail order account, get some products shipped to a dead drop, pick them up and sell them and get money back that way.
Sensible?? Probably not, but if I was 100% sensible and law abiding citizen I wouldn't be on Silk Road! :)
I have been in the exact same situation, lent a supposed friend £100 as he was desperate to come out for a mutual friends birthday, three weeks had passed and no sign of my money even though I knew he'd been going out constantly, buying new stuff etc. I asked constantly and each time got fobbed of with some lie about his wages. Another two weeks had gone and I decided after five weeks it was time to take action, I invited him around mine said be good few a few drinks and a catch up went to my local supermarket brought the cheapest vodka I could get my hands on which was 1.7 litres for £20. Fake friend turned up I kept pouring him massive drinks and myself only little one until he was paralytic and passed out on the couch :) I looked in his wallet took £30 of the £50 he had in there, stole his iphone 4 and took half his cigarettes, woke him up a few hours later (he was still steaming drunk) said you have to go home and let him stumble out my door. He messaged me on facebook the next day asking "is my phone at yours? I was paralytic last night cant remember shit"unfortunately for him I sold the phone for £80 so made a £10 loss due to the vodka but not the end of the world. I have mentioned the money numerous times and he still fobs me off and I have decided not to make an effort with him anymore.
Sometimes to be honest it is for the best when it is with supposed friends as you get to see their true colors and it saves you a lot more in the long run.
You are a coward
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1) it depends how much/it depends on if you can write it off.
2) depends on what you want to be known as, the guy that can get taken advantage of vs the guy that shit kicked me over 40 bucks.
If it's a small amount then there are plenty of suggestions on here of how to possibly recover some of the funds. but its all a pain in the ass. if you're really hell bent on "what's right" then just cost them double in damage. If it's an amount that you can't let go (this number changes for different people) and it's not about the fact that the owe it. Then you're going to have to beat it out of them. be calm, be vicious, don't make mistakes. don't get soppy after a few hits with a bat. hurt them. really hurt them. be sure to have a calm conversation afterwards. Be sure to discuss that this was either the end of it, or the beginning of it. let them know that if you even think they are carrying this shit on that you'll see them again. it's in everyones best interest to let it end here and now. They owed you, now they've paid you and you can go on your separate paths and no one need go through this again.
if it's about the fact that they owe you and you can write the money off. Then hurt them worse. seriously. if you don't need the money mask up grab a hammer and anything sharp and 30 seconds finding out how little it takes to do some serious harm. collar bones (do both, they won't be able to wipe their own ass for 6 weeks give or take), nose (harder to see you with tears and blood), jaw (eating sucks when it's liquid food), knee caps (obvious), ankles (obvious), and time permitting turn a few fingers/toes into hamburger. This all takes time and there will be screaming. It can be done fairly quickly after the initial subduing. i would advice doing it inside, 1 on 1, and putting something in their mouth or covering their face to muffle the sound. There is a good chance they will pass out. Thats fine. If you want to get really inventive stop crushing things and just shank them in the anus a few times, not deep you don't want to start hitting vital things, just enough for stitches. trying to shit with stitches doesn't work, possible infection and the embarrassment.
And for god sakes don't say a word. I mean it. if you go this route. just smash the shit out of them. don't half ass it. make sure that first attack to subdue is full tilt, then quickly as possible start to incapacitate them by breaking. don't say a god damn word. don't leave anything identifiable. don't make it easy for them to know who did it. they might know but thinking they know and proving it to the law are different things.
Before doing any of this make sure that your place is clean of everything. make sure it is clean for weeks to come. make sure to burn everything you wore, there will be blood on it, and it could be used to identify you. don't throw it out, don't wait. lighter fluid, and fire as soon as possible in a relatively private spot. obviously a mask and gloves (latex) go into this as well.
not sure on your circumstance with distance and travel but don't park your car out front. try not to look like a creeper when entering or exiting your car, and yet at the same time try not to allow your face to be identified by anyone looking out a window. it's a balance. try to do it at night. for god sames don't wear bloody clothing in your car. throwing it all in a garbage bag before entering your vehicle. To this effect a black painters suit as an outer layer can be effective to allow you to wear some clothing under and prevent blood getting everywhere.
PLEASE FOR GOD SAKE DO SOME RECON. watch them for a bit, learn some habits of theirs, learn the neighbors habits, look for cameras in the area, learn the roads and traffic flow. don't stand out in any way. blend in with the area as best as possible. make sure you know how you are going to get there, how you're going to get back, know where you are going to burn all the clothing (ASAP). know where you're going to put the weapons (the bottom of some deep dark water way works.) check for road cameras on your route to and from. bridges are ideal for tossing your weapons, but they almost always come with cameras. beaches are a horrible idea. things tend to wash up, the tide could be up when you toss it and then go out.
know in your mind what will happen at every turn. you set the tempo and decide on the place. so make sure you know how things will play out. if they go a little haywire then thats fine. things happen but don't let it deviate to much and know when and how to cut your losses. Have that fast exit plan.
DON"T TAKE YOUR DAMN PHONE WITH YOU, not in the car, not in the place, not at all. that goes for other electronics as well.
These are a few helpful tips but they are by no means all inclusive. use common sense. before you ever set foot out the door to examine the area and situation think things through. have the steps in your mind and how each will go and have a back up ready.
Lastly this isn't the movies. the cops are smart, people are dumb, but most beatings do go unpunished. The more severe the more effort will be put into looking at it. Then again if they guys that owe you are known trouble makers and shit heads the cops shouldn't (in theory) look to hard.
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If you really care more about being low key and not getting your hands dirty I suggest you let it go if you can't get it the right way. Best bet is to buy a tazer(Non lethal,inexpensive,painful) catch the person at the right moment,zap zap, take their stuff and at least your pride and ego will feel reassured ha. And depending on what they have you might be able to get some of the debt back. Including if they live close to you let them know you will catch them plenty of times and keep taking their belongings until it's paid. Another good idea but risky would be to try to rob their house, but that would require great work and great risk.
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1) it depends how much/it depends on if you can write it off.
2) depends on what you want to be known as, the guy that can get taken advantage of vs the guy that shit kicked me over 40 bucks.
If it's a small amount then there are plenty of suggestions on here of how to possibly recover some of the funds. but its all a pain in the ass. if you're really hell bent on "what's right" then just cost them double in damage. If it's an amount that you can't let go (this number changes for different people) and it's not about the fact that the owe it. Then you're going to have to beat it out of them. be calm, be vicious, don't make mistakes. don't get soppy after a few hits with a bat. hurt them. really hurt them. be sure to have a calm conversation afterwards. Be sure to discuss that this was either the end of it, or the beginning of it. let them know that if you even think they are carrying this shit on that you'll see them again. it's in everyones best interest to let it end here and now. They owed you, now they've paid you and you can go on your separate paths and no one need go through this again.
if it's about the fact that they owe you and you can write the money off. Then hurt them worse. seriously. if you don't need the money mask up grab a hammer and anything sharp and 30 seconds finding out how little it takes to do some serious harm. collar bones (do both, they won't be able to wipe their own ass for 6 weeks give or take), nose (harder to see you with tears and blood), jaw (eating sucks when it's liquid food), knee caps (obvious), ankles (obvious), and time permitting turn a few fingers/toes into hamburger. This all takes time and there will be screaming. It can be done fairly quickly after the initial subduing. i would advice doing it inside, 1 on 1, and putting something in their mouth or covering their face to muffle the sound. There is a good chance they will pass out. Thats fine. If you want to get really inventive stop crushing things and just shank them in the anus a few times, not deep you don't want to start hitting vital things, just enough for stitches. trying to shit with stitches doesn't work, possible infection and the embarrassment.
And for god sakes don't say a word. I mean it. if you go this route. just smash the shit out of them. don't half ass it. make sure that first attack to subdue is full tilt, then quickly as possible start to incapacitate them by breaking. don't say a god damn word. don't leave anything identifiable. don't make it easy for them to know who did it. they might know but thinking they know and proving it to the law are different things.
Before doing any of this make sure that your place is clean of everything. make sure it is clean for weeks to come. make sure to burn everything you wore, there will be blood on it, and it could be used to identify you. don't throw it out, don't wait. lighter fluid, and fire as soon as possible in a relatively private spot. obviously a mask and gloves (latex) go into this as well.
not sure on your circumstance with distance and travel but don't park your car out front. try not to look like a creeper when entering or exiting your car, and yet at the same time try not to allow your face to be identified by anyone looking out a window. it's a balance. try to do it at night. for god sames don't wear bloody clothing in your car. throwing it all in a garbage bag before entering your vehicle. To this effect a black painters suit as an outer layer can be effective to allow you to wear some clothing under and prevent blood getting everywhere.
PLEASE FOR GOD SAKE DO SOME RECON. watch them for a bit, learn some habits of theirs, learn the neighbors habits, look for cameras in the area, learn the roads and traffic flow. don't stand out in any way. blend in with the area as best as possible. make sure you know how you are going to get there, how you're going to get back, know where you are going to burn all the clothing (ASAP). know where you're going to put the weapons (the bottom of some deep dark water way works.) check for road cameras on your route to and from. bridges are ideal for tossing your weapons, but they almost always come with cameras. beaches are a horrible idea. things tend to wash up, the tide could be up when you toss it and then go out.
know in your mind what will happen at every turn. you set the tempo and decide on the place. so make sure you know how things will play out. if they go a little haywire then thats fine. things happen but don't let it deviate to much and know when and how to cut your losses. Have that fast exit plan.
DON"T TAKE YOUR DAMN PHONE WITH YOU, not in the car, not in the place, not at all. that goes for other electronics as well.
These are a few helpful tips but they are by no means all inclusive. use common sense. before you ever set foot out the door to examine the area and situation think things through. have the steps in your mind and how each will go and have a back up ready.
Lastly this isn't the movies. the cops are smart, people are dumb, but most beatings do go unpunished. The more severe the more effort will be put into looking at it. Then again if they guys that owe you are known trouble makers and shit heads the cops shouldn't (in theory) look to hard.
This is basically the right answer you were looking for, im sure it was lurkig in your mind somewhere anyway.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
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No I am in UK, I know they have the money, they have good jobs and also go out partying weekly, go on holidays etc, this just rubs it in your face a bit! If they were poor and struggling to get by day to day I would never think about doing something to get money back I would take it on the chin and leave it and move on.
Could call it stealing I guess, but it is simular to what a loan company would do if you didnt pay back loan they would take your possessions and sell at auction.
The idea would be something like open up a mail order account, get some products shipped to a dead drop, pick them up and sell them and get money back that way.
Sensible?? Probably not, but if I was 100% sensible and law abiding citizen I wouldn't be on Silk Road! :)
I have been in the exact same situation, lent a supposed friend £100 as he was desperate to come out for a mutual friends birthday, three weeks had passed and no sign of my money even though I knew he'd been going out constantly, buying new stuff etc. I asked constantly and each time got fobbed of with some lie about his wages. Another two weeks had gone and I decided after five weeks it was time to take action, I invited him around mine said be good few a few drinks and a catch up went to my local supermarket brought the cheapest vodka I could get my hands on which was 1.7 litres for £20. Fake friend turned up I kept pouring him massive drinks and myself only little one until he was paralytic and passed out on the couch :) I looked in his wallet took £30 of the £50 he had in there, stole his iphone 4 and took half his cigarettes, woke him up a few hours later (he was still steaming drunk) said you have to go home and let him stumble out my door. He messaged me on facebook the next day asking "is my phone at yours? I was paralytic last night cant remember shit"unfortunately for him I sold the phone for £80 so made a £10 loss due to the vodka but not the end of the world. I have mentioned the money numerous times and he still fobs me off and I have decided not to make an effort with him anymore.
Sometimes to be honest it is for the best when it is with supposed friends as you get to see their true colors and it saves you a lot more in the long run.
You are a coward
I am just someone who hates being ripped off and am not a neanderthal so wont start a fight over some money BUT let me guess you are a 6ft gangster who would go around and break someones legs over £10? Just casually sitting on the SR forum before your next cage fight?
Grow up internet hard man
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I would just like to throw out a little support for roundhead. His method wouldn't be mine but his method succeeded for him/her.
The truth is there are many "right" ways to handle this depending on many factors. Whatever gets the job done to the degree you want it done is right.
There are also many wrong ways, in fact there are many more wrong ways than right ways. the wrong ways will involve the possibilities of you being visited by the police and charged (being visited if you did it right shouldn't matter and even if you did things perfectly they may show up at your door step. be ready for that), possibilities of retribution, or having your property damaged or people you care about being hurt. All of this of course depends on what you do, and what these people that owe you do.
The wrong way will doubtfully give you a second chance and may even cost you a great deal. keep that in mind. do it right the first time.
At any rate roundhead I see you catching a little flack "you're a coward" and though you're way isn't mine it was successful in achieving your goals. I say good on you.