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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: StExo on May 16, 2013, 08:05 pm
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What got you guys/girls into drugs then and at what age did you start doing them? From what I gather most SR users are pretty used to drugs and have developed their tastes as to what constituites good and bad, as well as trying a new variety of substances often sourced on SR since they weren't available locally.
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Into drugs like alcohol and cannabis: friends. (age: ~14 years)
Into drugs like magic mushrooms and LSD: A trip to Amsterdam where I've tried some mushrooms for the first time in my life and was fascinated. (age: 18 years)
Into drugs like MDMA: I am a huge electronic music fan and always knew, that I need something better than alcohol to feel the full energy of that genre. (age: 19 years)
//interesting thread!
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Into drugs like alcohol and cannabis: friends. (age: ~14 years)
Into drugs like magic mushrooms and LSD: A trip to Amsterdam where I've tried some mushrooms for the first time in my life and was fascinated. (age: 18 years)
Into drugs like MDMA: I am a huge electronic music fan and always knew, that I need something better than alcohol to feel the full energy of that genre. (age: 19 years)
//interesting thread!
You seem to be pretty in control, I've seen kids locally go from a bit of cannabis and alcohol onto LSD, coke, RC's and one even onto heroin within a year, some as young as 13 or 14 which was pretty worrying.
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Same as most people probably, alcohol and weed were my gateway's ::)
then mushrooms and pills (adderall, xanax etc.) were next
finally onto blow, acid and such... im planning on trying almost everything at least once
i didnt start using ANYTHING until 16 though
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I had dabbled in my youth, mostly meph, ket and MD i tried as hard as i could to give weed a chance but it never agreed with me.
i had a couple of trips down south to try and establish whether i would like to move down there and tried mushrooms, acid and dabbled in other areas..
i think what mostly attracted me was the boredom and complacency of sober life (not to say i didn't have quite a good and social life), this may have been my downfall to some degree because now i feel depressed when i can't escape the grind.
now i am left wondering what to do ::)
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locally:
weed (age:13~14?)still smoke everday :P
shrooms (age:17?) every once in awhile..
adderall (age:18?) once, was okey, never found more.
half of a 'whitelighting' mda pill (age:19) once, never found more.
SR's
acid (age:19) once, loved it, will do again..
cocaine (age:19) once, don't like it..
heroin (age:19) once injecting, few times smoking.. never again :o
25-I (age:19) few times.. kinda over them.
dmt (age:19) once, smoked with weed, was awesome! an will do again.
pure mda (age:19) few times with different dosages, is fun will do again.
MDMA (age:19) few times with different dosages, also mixed with mda, is fun will do again.
I've seen kids locally go from a bit of cannabis and alcohol onto LSD, coke, RC's and one even onto heroin within a year
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Well I wouldn't classify you as a kid :) When I say "kid" I'm talking the bunch that hang in the Hackney courts who are about 12 sniffing all sorts of shit despite foot patrols passing through every 10 minutes.
You've seen a far few things though. As for injecting heroin - I'd never go down that path, rather not risk it and if you spend too long in certain professions you become too accustomed to the medical standpoint of the dangers :(
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I had dabbled in my youth, mostly meph, ket and MD i tried as hard as i could to give weed a chance but it never agreed with me.
i had a couple of trips down south to try and establish whether i would like to move down there and tried mushrooms, acid and dabbled in other areas..
i think what mostly attracted me was the boredom and complacency of sober life (not to say i didn't have quite a good and social life), this may have been my downfall to some degree because now i feel depressed when i can't escape the grind.
now i am left wondering what to do ::)
You need to research a guy called Graham Greene who was a bit of a bored character, he was a novelist but when he was younger liked to live life by chance so ended up doing some pretty stupid stuff, like at the age of 16, bored, took a revolver from his house, walked out into the woods and played Russian Roulette with himself. Given the revolver had a 6 round capacity and he spun in 5 times and clicked 5 times, you can probably see he really was bored. Died at 86 thought xD
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The only drugs I wanted to try were psychedelics because I was just fascinated by their reported effects and the types of trips I would read on erowid. Psychonautics intrigued me back then, so getting psychedelics was a must. Of course it would be a while before I found any IRL connections and later the deep web, so I was peer pressured into smoking weed at 19. Weed never allured me because it seemed to me that it would just sedate people, turn them sluggish, and the fact that it stayed within the system for so long was a downside to me. Nevertheless, I didn't find it that bad; I still think it has downsides, but I still blaze up every now and then.
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First drug I ever tried was alcohol. Then ritalin. Then adderall. Then weed, LSD, and shrooms. Then later MDMA, PCP, coke, meth, pharmies... and anything else anybody could get, basically.
Stopped everything but amphetamines after a year or two of pretty constant drug use; just lost my taste for it all slowly, and when things finally blew up I just stopped one day. Still take meth daily though. I use it more like a medication than a drug, honestly, but I definitely abuse it now and again -- not trying to claim I don't.
Basically I always wanted to try every drug in existence when I was like 10 or 11. Little did I know just how fucking impossible that really is... anyway, I got into drugs because of a self destructive love for the glamor of hopelessness; if that makes any sense at all. Stuck with the meth because it helps me think, but I'm still attracted to what's harmful. No idea why. It's just kind of who I am for whatever reason.
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Sheer boredom, and the wrong crowed, of coarse.
I had my first bong rip at 11, my first vicodin at 12..its been a wrap since then..
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I started smoking weed when I was 14, also DXM, mushrooms , 2c-t-2 and tried meth several times (never used meth excessively and think I last used it when I was 16 or so). When I was 15 I got more into research chemicals and tried an assortment of them. Tried cocaine and crack at 17 but didn't really care at all for either, especially crack which is a total garbage drug imo. I was really into research chemicals from 14 up until I was about 19 at which point I stopped using experimental drugs and switched to more traditional psychedelics, particularly I became a very heavy LSD user which I am to this day. I also stopped DXM entirely and switched to ketamine around the same time. I tried heroin when I was 23 but only a few times really close together. In my really early 20's I got into MDMA for a while and also tried mephedrone and GHB. These days I hardly use anything other than LSD and marijuana, but I am still down for occasional ketamine binges. I mean if I was with people using some particular drug, I would take almost anything today with few exceptions (probably avoid meth, definitely wouldn't touch mephedrone or crack or probably even cocaine), but I don't have any particular desire to use anything in particular other than PCP (mostly just so I can check mark off the last widely known drug I have not tried). I think my experimentation days are largely behind me and from now on I will mostly be sticking to my favorites: LSD, Ketamine and Weed with occasional random things like GHB or 2c-b thrown in. I definitely have no desire to try any of the sketchy ass research chemicals coming out these days.
The reason I originally started using drugs is simply because all of the kids I went to school with started smoking weed and I joined in the fun. At the time I had nothing against drugs anyway though, I had several relatives who grew weed and I got over the drugs are bad brainwashing when I was like 10 and realized they were not growing tomatoes ;). I got into DXM because I started hanging out with kids a class above me and DXM was widely used by them. It got hard to get cough syrup at the store so I looked it up online one day to see if we could order it from online shops. Instead I stumbled on pure DXM powder, the people selling it also sold research chemicals and the rest is pretty much history :D. I really loved psychedelics and dissociatives, and it sort of became a quest for the best. That led me from research chemicals and DXM to LSD and Ketamine (Well, getting membership on a drug forum when I was 17 led to me getting hooks for ketamine and LSD in the first place, although it was about a year later when our forum merged with a European forum that had traditional drug vendors on it), which is where I am at today. Everything else was largely just collateral drug use I tried out in my quest for awesome psychedelics, you know. I have hung out with like every drug sub culture there is (from hippies to speed freaks to pot heads to junkies to ravers), and I tend to use whatever everybody else is. But my personal favorites are definitely psychedelics and dissociatives.
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locally:
weed (age:13~14?)still smoke everday :P
shrooms (age:17?) every once in awhile..
adderall (age:18?) once, was okey, never found more.
half of a 'whitelighting' mda pill (age:19) once, never found more.
SR's
acid (age:19) once, loved it, will do again..
cocaine (age:19) once, don't like it..
heroin (age:19) once injecting, few times smoking.. never again :o
25-I (age:19) few times.. kinda over them.
dmt (age:19) once, smoked with weed, was awesome! an will do again.
pure mda (age:19) few times with different dosages, is fun will do again.
MDMA (age:19) few times with different dosages, also mixed with mda, is fun will do again.
I've seen kids locally go from a bit of cannabis and alcohol onto LSD, coke, RC's and one even onto heroin within a year
::) :P
Well I wouldn't classify you as a kid :) When I say "kid" I'm talking the bunch that hang in the Hackney courts who are about 12 sniffing all sorts of shit despite foot patrols passing through every 10 minutes.
You've seen a far few things though. As for injecting heroin - I'd never go down that path, rather not risk it and if you spend too long in certain professions you become too accustomed to the medical standpoint of the dangers :(
heroin is a shitty high with a shitty comedown that makes you puke an just feel generally like shit.. not worth it at all...
alcohol too you need to get used to it ..... and the high is good and no comedown.
My first drugs was heroin , depression and mental problems got me into drugs ..
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alcohol too you need to get used to it ..... and the high is good and no comedown.
The alcohol 'high' literally feels like intoxication, and the comedown is awful. Alcohol is one of my least favorite drugs.
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I had dabbled in my youth, mostly meph, ket and MD i tried as hard as i could to give weed a chance but it never agreed with me.
i had a couple of trips down south to try and establish whether i would like to move down there and tried mushrooms, acid and dabbled in other areas..
i think what mostly attracted me was the boredom and complacency of sober life (not to say i didn't have quite a good and social life), this may have been my downfall to some degree because now i feel depressed when i can't escape the grind.
now i am left wondering what to do ::)
You need to research a guy called Graham Greene who was a bit of a bored character, he was a novelist but when he was younger liked to live life by chance so ended up doing some pretty stupid stuff, like at the age of 16, bored, took a revolver from his house, walked out into the woods and played Russian Roulette with himself. Given the revolver had a 6 round capacity and he spun in 5 times and clicked 5 times, you can probably see he really was bored. Died at 86 thought xD
I have a fair few insane stories to tell but my boredom hasnt led to me wapping out the old revolver for a quick game 'o' russian roulette as of yet.
I'll have a read about Graham Greene, thanks StExo :)
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@kmfkewm - Have you ever tried 25i? I know you said you want to dodge the new research chemicals as some of them are totally horrific, but Tyl3r's 25i seems spot on (not to mention cheap in a good way) and really consistent product. Not advertising too much for him but he's probably my preferred domestic vendor of them all.
First drug I ever tried was alcohol. Then ritalin. Then adderall. Then weed, LSD, and shrooms. Then later MDMA, PCP, coke, meth, pharmies... and anything else anybody could get, basically.
Stopped everything but amphetamines after a year or two of pretty constant drug use; just lost my taste for it all slowly, and when things finally blew up I just stopped one day. Still take meth daily though. I use it more like a medication than a drug, honestly, but I definitely abuse it now and again -- not trying to claim I don't.
Basically I always wanted to try every drug in existence when I was like 10 or 11. Little did I know just how fucking impossible that really is... anyway, I got into drugs because of a self destructive love for the glamor of hopelessness; if that makes any sense at all. Stuck with the meth because it helps me think, but I'm still attracted to what's harmful. No idea why. It's just kind of who I am for whatever reason.
This is a bit of an unusual suggestion, but have you ever tried modafinil? I know somebody who was addicted to meth for many years and he seems more eager to get his pill of modafinil these days than actual meth which kind of works for him given he originally got hooked on meth for studying. Just a passing thought on that since modafinil has an lower toxicity than caffeine.
I have a fair few insane stories to tell but my boredom hasnt led to me wapping out the old revolver for a quick game 'o' russian roulette as of yet.
I'll have a read about Graham Greene, thanks StExo :)
Haha, the same here I feel, doing stupid stuff for the purpose of doing it because there is not much else to do. It's why I couldn't be a reserved person, I'm quite outgoing, sociable and some would describe me as an adrenalin junkie, I personally just think that you shouldn't limit yourself by unreasonable fears and taking a chance is healthy for you at times.
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For me, it happened when my family moved from an affluent neighborhood into another one that was full of kids who were into pot. It didn't take long before I was smoking pot with them and playing guitars. The rest, as they say, is rock and roll history. ;)
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alcohol too you need to get used to it ..... and the high is good and no comedown.
The alcohol 'high' literally feels like intoxication, and the comedown is awful. Alcohol is one of my least favorite drugs.
Alcohol does give you a 'high' to a certain extent. Increased confidence and an increase in mood and happiness, but accompanied by a strong feeling of intoxication. Nothing intoxicates me more than alcohol. Ketamine comes close, but it's still a lot easier to control. Alcohol gives you that ability to just lose control of yourself and do ridiculous things that you wouldn't even do on MDMA, coke or other drugs which greatly affect your mood. I just can't believe alcohol is legal, yet weed is not :O
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For me, it happened when my family moved from an affluent neighborhood into another one that was full of kids who were into pot. It didn't take long before I was smoking pot with them and playing guitars. The rest, as they say, is rock and roll history. ;)
Damn, am I the only one here who lived in a cave about drugs for so long? I grew up most of my life believing drugs were what government propaganda says they are; ie funding terrorism, will kill you if you swallow a pill, dealers going to try kill you, it messes your head up etc all that type of shit. I must have been 15 (going back a good few years now) and remember seeing some guy smoking weed on a park bench in the middle of an extremely affluent area where I lived and was absolutely terrified of the guy thinking he was going to randomly chase and kill me.
So yeah, kind of shows what my upbringing was like when you have family who believes the government unquestionably. Whilst it wasn't as bad as US propaganda since the US seems to house the most extreme people whereas the UK is much more trimmed down with less extremes on both sides, it still goes to show what a sheltered life believing everything your told by the government can do to you. Even only a year or two ago, I seen a woman handing out leaflets on cannabis and it's "Facts" were things like cannabis is involved in over 50,000 deaths a year etc which I was pretty confused on, but obviously I researched the full facts and yes, 50,000 deaths a year have cannabis involved, but that's like saying drinking water contribute to your death when somebody falls onto a knife and kills him/herself.
What I don't like either is that I can't be open and honest with anybody who matters to me much because they're effectively brainwashed beyond the point of return. Whereas here on SilkRoad, we are all pretty free and can discuss serious matters in our lives with complete anonymity (to the most extent) and people are not judging or bias.
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For me, it happened when my family moved from an affluent neighborhood into another one that was full of kids who were into pot. It didn't take long before I was smoking pot with them and playing guitars. The rest, as they say, is rock and roll history. ;)
Damn, am I the only one here who lived in a cave about drugs for so long? I grew up most of my life believing drugs were what government propaganda says they are; ie funding terrorism, will kill you if you swallow a pill, dealers going to try kill you, it messes your head up etc all that type of shit. I must have been 15 (going back a good few years now) and remember seeing some guy smoking weed on a park bench in the middle of an extremely affluent area where I lived and was absolutely terrified of the guy thinking he was going to randomly chase and kill me.
So yeah, kind of shows what my upbringing was like when you have family who believes the government unquestionably. Whilst it wasn't as bad as US propaganda since the US seems to house the most extreme people whereas the UK is much more trimmed down with less extremes on both sides, it still goes to show what a sheltered life believing everything your told by the government can do to you. Even only a year or two ago, I seen a woman handing out leaflets on cannabis and it's "Facts" were things like cannabis is involved in over 50,000 deaths a year etc which I was pretty confused on, but obviously I researched the full facts and yes, 50,000 deaths a year have cannabis involved, but that's like saying drinking water contribute to your death when somebody falls onto a knife and kills him/herself.
What I don't like either is that I can't be open and honest with anybody who matters to me much because they're effectively brainwashed beyond the point of return. Whereas here on SilkRoad, we are all pretty free and can discuss serious matters in our lives with complete anonymity (to the most extent) and people are not judging or bias.
When I was young (up until about the age of 16) I also believe that drugs were bad and that if I had a pill I have a decent chance of dying.
I was young and naive. I had been brainwashed into believing all this crap.
Now, I am a marijuana vendor and I use marijuana at least twice a week and party drugs (MDMA, speed, coke) at least once a month.
I have not died. I am very healthy and live an otherwise normal life, including having a full-time job.
However, it makes me a criminal. Even though I harm nobody and I am a good person and generally obey the law other than the use & supply of drugs.
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I may not be the norm here when it comes to what got me into drugs but here is my story nonetheless. I never touched anything in high school until my senior year, where I could drink a single Smirnoff Ice and be blasted for 6 hours (those were the days!), but I had always been fascinated by drugs.
Allow me to clarify.
I had been fascinated by certain personalities that it came to be known were heavy drug users. People like Elvis, Steve McQueen, Jim Jones (People's Temple, not that hack rapper), hell even Chairman Mao....I found it so intriguing that these men that were so revered in their time, that could influence such huge swaths of people and change entire cultural landscapes (which are still with us today, try to watch television for an hour without someone, on some channel mentioning Presley) were all massive partakers of drugs.
And what I really loved, and I still do not know why, was the fact that as these guys got late on into their careers either deeply seated personal eccentricities or the drugs themselves caused the manifestation of truly bizarre behavior. We all know about Elvis' largesse, I think the Guardian had an interesting piece on McQueen when he was filming Le Mans stating that he would sit up in his trailer in the middle of the race track, do cocaine and listen in on the conversations going on immediately outside of his trailer....Jones would get loaded on amphetamines and then tear off and preach sermons that would go on for hours at a time, usually deep into the night and early into the morning of a work day and I believe I read that Mao just liked to get high on opiates and lay in his bed with women. Who can blame him? Opiates are fun and there are some super, super good looking Chinese chicks.
So yeah, back to drugs.
It wasn't until college that I really had any desire to branch out into anything at all and I think that was more rooted in boredom. I'll never forget the first time, at age 22, me and 5 other guys on a Friday afternoon were sitting around a dorm like giddy idiots over the ounce we had all bought, waiting to crack into the stuff and then go to a party on campus. What was interesting too was that I always seemed to have drugs find me. You know how some people seem like they could make money, even if you dropped them off in a desert and told them to sell sand? Well, it was like that with me and drugs.
For example, I remember being over at this girls house, just chatting and happening to look at a pill bottle on the floor. I jokingly yelled "Pills!" and she laughed and said "You can have them if you want them. I got them when I had my wisdom teeth removed" and just like that, I've got 15 hydrocodones. Fast forward to a month later and I'm sitting around someone else's room in their house and the subject of medication naturally arose. The guy said "Yeah, I've got these pain pills that I don't really want but I feel bad just throwing them away. You want them?" Of course!
It has been a very slow progression at times. I mean I started drinking alcohol at 18...didn't drink for two years because I didn't know anyone old enough to buy it (and my parents are both stone cold sober cats) and then got bored with being drunk because I was 21 and could buy all the alcohol I wanted. Then a year later at 22, I started with weed, got into that for about two years pretty heavy and then called it quits because I got so used to the effects I was functional on it and the novelty wasn't there anymore. Pain medicine had always been a background thing and never anything I sought out like I do with it now. If someone had 15 hydros of 5/500 sitting around, I knew I'd be in for a weeks worth of a good time (again, those were the days!) but it wasn't until I was 26 that I got into pain pills exclusively.
I've only just now tried LSD and I enjoyed it. I'll never take an heroic dose because I'm just not interested but I enjoy the novel way in which it lets me look at things and the free association of ideas that comes up while on it. I guess in some strange way that doing drugs has really allowed me some perspective on myself, I know things about my physical make up and layout that I didn't know before, didn't consider and probably would never have cared to pursue had it not been for drugs.
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Yes drugs have opened my eyes up too.
You should give MDMA a try. That will really open up the social side of you. It's hard to explain, but as long as you don't have large quantities or have it too regularly, it won't cause you any harm or side effects. I couldn't recommend it more.
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+1 Dingo!
I've been thinking about getting a couple hits of MDMA for me and my lady friend for a not too distant sexy party. ;) I think I'll look some up. PM me if you know of a good vendor for me to look at.
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Sex and rock and roll....But mainly peer pressure an being a young naive punk that want to rebel against the system....or something like that.
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Hey Dingo, thanks for the recommendation man! I have actually considered it very strongly...I'm just paranoid because it seems like, in the States at least, all these MDMA arrests have happened and people are more or less certain it is connected to SR...
I actually wrote a research paper examining whether LSD, psilocybin and MDMA could be used to treat major depression...they all act on the 5-HT receptor sites but, just as you are warning with not taking MDMA too often or too much, it causes massive serotonin depletion and I think permanently alters the some of those receptor sites if I remember my research, even after one time use. I can't remember if the studies I pulled from considered polydrug use or not so that may be a contributing factor and I even referenced Erowid.org's MDMA trip reports for anecdotal evidence backing up the clinical data.
It seems like some people have had really great success with beating depression with MDMA even though clinical data seems to point to the fact that from a brain-chemistry standpoint the opposite should be occurring. Ah, one of these days I'll work up the nerve to order, like one pill, and then I sweat out the inevitable 3 to 4 day waiting period where I wonder "Is this the time I get to experience Lock Up: Raw in real life?" only to have the magic arrive and no police intervention necessary. Seriously though Dingo, thanks man. I'd rep you one if I could but I don't think my posting count is high enough....I've got to work on that. Maybe I'll head to the newb forum and just post in those 50 count threads....
Yea I've read using MDMA every month at the most if safe. But better off waiting every 3 months. personally I use it every month for 4-5 months and then I take a 3-4 month gap and then use it once again and then another large gap. I use it mostly over summer for music festivals. Makes the day 10X better than with alcohol. You get full of energy, super awesome mood and just dance the whole day. Haha. So much fun.
I'd recommend using it anyway. I used to be an anti-drug person. The first time I tried MDMA I was nervous, but I have never looked back.
Drugs have only improved my life. The only negative aspect is the legality of it, and the potential for abuse. But this isn't common. You don't get the dsire to repeat MDMA usage like you get with amphetamines or cocaine. They work with dopamine and are more addictive. They are all great drugs, but you never have the same desire to take MDMA as you get with cocaine, even though the MDMA high is IMO a lot more intense and powerful than cocaine.
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You seem to be pretty in control, I've seen kids locally go from a bit of cannabis and alcohol onto LSD, coke, RC's and one even onto heroin within a year, some as young as 13 or 14 which was pretty worrying.
Well, i really think I can control myself. I never got addicted to anything, while some of my friends did. I am not just that kind of person that smokes a few joints or cigarettes and immediately gets addicted. I like that fact.
And I never buy shit from dirty local vendors. I grow the stuff like mushrooms myself or buy MDMA/LSD from highly trusted vendors here on silkroad. :)
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Sex and rock n roll obviously lol ;D
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Sex and drugs and rock and roll. That's the ticket, Laddy. ;)
I like your screen name by the way. It appeals to me. You have mary, either a reference to mary-jane or Mary the mother of Jesus? And then 666, which references our good friend, The Devil maybe? I have been accused of being the Devil. I'm not, but I do have a certain sympathy for his cause. You only live once. Devour it. ;)
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"Mary?"
"Ah, Mr Miller I presume?"
This shit is getting creepy.
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I,m stoned but this shits funny ;D i,m actually named after the bud lol mary doll tho no mary jane but nearly ;)
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Interest at first. Continued to find knowledge and truth.
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Reading these stories is enlightening and entertaining, especially coming from SS and kmf, because I consider them close friends, to the extent that one can have anonymous internet friends. :)
Also, karensupreme, you need to start posting more on the forum. I remember some of your posts from about a month ago and was quite impressed by them. You are a very good writer and always add a lot of useful or interesting info. This community needs your voice.
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Pain.
As a kid I was beaten by my parents. They would argue then take their frustration out on me. Don't think I ever broke any bones but bruises were common and I don't have a bleeding disorder although I used that as an excuse if anyone asked. Eventually I was old enough and left to forge my own path. Never talked to them since and don't know if they're still alive. Fuck them.
Discovering SR was a godsend for me. No need for prescription to buy non-opioid painkillers. The long sleepless nights while I was curled up into a ball from the stabbing pain or waking from nightmares and drenched in sweat are finally at an end .
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What got me into drugs?
Wanting to explore new modes of thought.
Jack Kerouac. Allen Ginsberg. The Beat Generation.
Hating fundamentalism. Enjoying philosophy. Wanting to think freely.
All at the ripe age of 14.
Although I used alcohol and got drunk much earlier, like around 12 or so, I would get high for the first time at 15. Smoked some nice blueberry, if I recall correctly :)
Then I tried LSD, then shortly after MDMA. Had wonderful experiences with both of those.
I went on to do lots of LSD (50+ trips) and also use MDMA quite a bit (though much less often).
I also used cocaine a few times, but I didn't enjoy it and never have. Opiates were nice. I went through a month of using oxys, but they didn't stick with me.
Then it was the RC time. 2C-E was definitely a gem, but I enjoyed trying all the other ones (2C-C, 2C-B, 2C-P). I also discovered Methylone, which all of my MDMA-selling drug dealers knew nothing about. However, I called the change from Molly being pure MDMA to being any random powder that might induce euphoria (amongst my circle, I'm sure people were thinking the same thing elsewhere).
I've dabbled in most traditional drugs as well, the benzos, dissociatives, intoxicants, etc.
And, of course, stimulants. Which is the mainstay of my present using state.
Though I have a stimulant prescription, I sometimes take breaks from it and use small amounts of meth.
Yes, I know it's highly addictive. Yes, I've taken breaks. Yes, I've monitored my use.
No, I haven't gone into an uncontrollable downward spiral. Life is going well. And it is rather enriched.
Everything in moderation, people. Including moderation. ;)
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My whole life I've been fascinated by drugs.
When I was 17 I was chilling with some mates and one of them brought some weed and I fell in love with Mary Jane- heck I still am!
I never liked alcohol but at parties it's nice to "let go" and dance and talk about random shit. Plus it's easier to talk to girls lmao
EDIT: Forgot to mention, I just love the feeling of things..feeling different...and exploring new nodes of thought...and just temporarily being free of all your problems. It's nice to dwell in a drug-induced state of conscious for a little while :)
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Has anyone actually been into a state of heavy dependence to the stereotypical addict picture of it being the only thing that goes through your mind all day? I've never been THAT into drugs, the business and psychology of it are more fascinating to me so really it's interesting to see the spectrum of influences drugs can have across people, culture and situations.
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Has anyone actually been into a state of heavy dependence to the stereotypical addict picture of it being the only thing that goes through your mind all day? I've never been THAT into drugs, the business and psychology of it are more fascinating to me so really it's interesting to see the spectrum of influences drugs can have across people, culture and situations.
I haven't. It's just a stereotype for 95% of drug users.
The only thing that I think about is cocaine the day after I use it. I want more. But that feeling goes away pretty quickly and I only use it once a month or less.
People with very poor self control could become addicted to speed / meth / heroin / coke quite easily though. It's all about moderation and self control.
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Weed Weed Weed!!! I smoke it every day, I need it, I want it, I love it ;D
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Has anyone actually been into a state of heavy dependence to the stereotypical addict picture of it being the only thing that goes through your mind all day? I've never been THAT into drugs, the business and psychology of it are more fascinating to me so really it's interesting to see the spectrum of influences drugs can have across people, culture and situations.
I haven't. It's just a stereotype for 95% of drug users.
The only thing that I think about is cocaine the day after I use it. I want more. But that feeling goes away pretty quickly and I only use it once a month or less.
People with very poor self control could become addicted to speed / meth / heroin / coke quite easily though. It's all about moderation and self control.
I've actually been looking into those kind of factors for a while now and found some scientific papers over the years on it and I'm not so sure. There have been plenty of cases of people who have great amounts of self control completely go off on particular substances, so they may not get addicted to heroin even if they liked it, but something like MDMA might get them hooked despite it not being "up there" with the main group of heroin, methamphetamine and speed.
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D.A.R.E.
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Has anyone actually been into a state of heavy dependence to the stereotypical addict picture of it being the only thing that goes through your mind all day? I've never been THAT into drugs, the business and psychology of it are more fascinating to me so really it's interesting to see the spectrum of influences drugs can have across people, culture and situations.
I have gone overboard with drugs before but I am more of a binge user than an addict when it comes to addictive drugs. Sometimes I go really hard with a drug for a few weeks, but then I don't touch it again for a year.
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I started doing drugs as a pre teen. I started with alcohol, weed, dxm, pcp, cocaine and shrooms. I do drugs because I like to research their effects on myself. I treat my body like a chemical research laboratory. :)
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I treat my body like a chemical research laboratory. :)
Oh man, be careful. Good luck with that! ;)
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I treat my body like a chemical research laboratory. :)
Oh man, be careful. Good luck with that! ;)
Hey, sometimes it's fun when your piss glows in the dark hehehe ;) :P
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I treat my body like a chemical research laboratory. :)
Oh man, be careful. Good luck with that! ;)
Hey, sometimes it's fun when your piss glows in the dark hehehe ;) :P
I've made my piss bright blue on a few occasions.
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I treat my body like a chemical research laboratory. :)
Oh man, be careful. Good luck with that! ;)
Hey, sometimes it's fun when your piss glows in the dark hehehe ;) :P
I've made my piss bright blue on a few occasions.
Case in point ;)
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I treat my body like a chemical research laboratory. :)
Oh man, be careful. Good luck with that! ;)
Hey, sometimes it's fun when your piss glows in the dark hehehe ;) :P
Very practical if you want to read on the toilet and the power fails. xD
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I treat my body like a chemical research laboratory. :)
Oh man, be careful. Good luck with that! ;)
Hey, sometimes it's fun when your piss glows in the dark hehehe ;) :P
I've made my piss bright blue on a few occasions.
Case in point ;)
All you have to do is eat some methylene blue. I got it on ebay. I dare someone to go take a probation drug test after eating some, the kind of test where they watch you piss...
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Drugs got me into drugs.
Hanging out with Towlie was also a poor choice.
"Wanna get high?"
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Pain.
As a kid I was beaten by my parents. They would argue then take their frustration out on me. Don't think I ever broke any bones but bruises were common and I don't have a bleeding disorder although I used that as an excuse if anyone asked. Eventually I was old enough and left to forge my own path. Never talked to them since and don't know if they're still alive. Fuck them.
Discovering SR was a godsend for me. No need for prescription to buy non-opioid painkillers. The long sleepless nights while I was curled up into a ball from the stabbing pain or waking from nightmares and drenched in sweat are finally at an end .
im the same as you. it was accidental that when i smoked my first joint the ball of rage and pain in my chest would disappear . i had no idea, i was just trying to cope with the emotions that were overwhelming me. who knew, when i first got high, all that bullshit would just melt away. i was released from the pain of living at home with my parents, by one single toke of the sweet. mj; all the bad just didnt matter any more. and i could breathe, and i could go on without having to carry that weight. then i found coke, meth, and benzos, and ive been self medicating ever sense. funny how the drugs change that i use to medicate. but im always using something! i cant get along with sober, we are not friends, and we make every one miserable around us if we play. so ive avoided that for a good many years now, and we are all managing to smile and keep a little swerve.
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Since I knew what they were I have wanted to see what the hype was all about.
Lucy was my favorite before I tried it. Started at 14 with weed. Tried shrooms and lucy at 15.
High school was a multicolored blast.
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Since I knew what they were I have wanted to see what the hype was all about.
Lucy was my favorite before I tried it. Started at 14 with weed. Tried shrooms and lucy at 15.
High school was a multicolored blast.
I love your name +1 8)
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Curiosity got me and loneliness kept me but in the end it was all for good. Experiences of different mind states and coping with them made me much more independent and confident about myself and now it's rarely when I do drugs, I don't feel the need anymore. Of course drugs like acid only showed me the opportunities, all the hard work you've got to do by yourself.
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I have pretty bad anxiety (esp. in social situations) and depression. I previously took SSRI medications and they didn't help at all, so I started smoking bud to try and help, and the only thing I regret not stopping my previous medications earlier. I could have saved myself a lot of time and hurt otherwise! I'm definitely happier overall now, I have more friends, I'm a lot more sociable, and I've started taking better care of myself both psychically and mentally.
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I ordered LSA seeds with 15 for once on the web, then we took them and it was pretty weird (compareable to LSD). Anyways with 17 I started smoke weed, with 19 MDMA and now with 20 I tried coke a few times.
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Started dealing before I started taking tbh
Started dealing at 13; just seemed to make sense at the time, I could get weed for cheap and I went to a private school where the kids were getting ripped off
Didn't even get properly drunk until my 18th birthday, MDMA followed 2 years later
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Started dealing before I started taking tbh
Started dealing at 13; just seemed to make sense at the time, I could get weed for cheap and I went to a private school where the kids were getting ripped off
Didn't even get properly drunk until my 18th birthday, MDMA followed 2 years later
Good man! I have done dealing much more than taking which is probably why I'm not cut out for street level stuff where people ask the effects and aren't sure what they're talking about, I am used to dealing in percentages and numbers, that is all that concerns me, and money of course.
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Was a straight shooter until my senior year of highschool. My ex gf from a while back, who had basically become a shady smut over the years decided to rob her current boyfriend of about 10 lbs of weed and came to me to get rid of it somehow because i was basically the only person she trusted. At the time most of my friends smoked, sold, rolled, drank, and everything else in the book. After adding up everything in my head i just simply told her i would get rid of it and that i would keep half of the money. After about 5 weeks it was history and when college came i knew exactly how to pay my tuition... Although i don't smoke I still appreciate a fine looking nug and a smile on a friends face.
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Too much of a "here for a good time not a long time" attitude in my teenage/ early adult life.
Certainly had plenty of good times and all in all I don't regret it.
Just wish at some stage someone or something would imbue me with a higher degree of self restraint.
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Started dealing before I started taking tbh
Started dealing at 13; just seemed to make sense at the time, I could get weed for cheap and I went to a private school where the kids were getting ripped off
Didn't even get properly drunk until my 18th birthday, MDMA followed 2 years later
Good man! I have done dealing much more than taking which is probably why I'm not cut out for street level stuff where people ask the effects and aren't sure what they're talking about, I am used to dealing in percentages and numbers, that is all that concerns me, and money of course.
I started smoking weed as a kid. Then I started selling weed as a kid. Then I started growing weed and selling various pills, selling cocaine, selling heroin, then selling RCs, then finally selling MDMA and ecstasy. Then one day someone said to me, "you sell all these drugs but you've never taken any of them?!?!!" to which I replied "yeah" and they eventually talked me into doing cocaine then doing my MDMA that EVERYONE always went crazy for. I've never met someone that has taken MDMA or ecstasy of mine and didn't swear that it was the best they ever had in their life. I loved being the MDMA guy. I loved everything about it. I've only taken it a couple dozen times but I just love being the guy with the best MDMA. I'm addicted to drug dealing, not drugs. I've always felt more addicted to weed than any drug and I've done over a hundred types of drugs. I just love dealing and money! It got to a point where I wouldn't waste my time with you if it was for less than $2,000. If you wanted to deal with me you had to spend $2,000 or be a close friend looking for personals. If you were looking for personals then you had to catch me at a good time and they were free. I always let my very close friends rack up a $500 - $1,000 debt a month then I would say forget about it. Anyone who sold MDMA and pills for me was making at least $1,000 profit a week. I miss dealing and having a handful of people that will do anything for me. I miss having muscle that's down for anything. I miss having my right hand man carry my briefcase and pistol. I miss showing up at houses and everyone crowding into a bedroom because they know they aren't supposed to see me or know about me and anyone who is around me never looking at me or saying a word to me. I started dealing with someone years ago that I had known for years but never talked to or done business with. I knew he bought a lot of my drugs off my very close friend who worked for me. I started talking to this person and selling to him and he ended up telling me that he was often hiding in the closet of my close friends house when I would come drop off large amounts of drugs and pickup cash. I didn't believe him at first but then he told me specifically how my drugs were concealed when I arrived and he told me statements I had made. He also told me that he dreamed of doing business with me. He said when he was in jail for a year he would have dreams of dealing with me lmao. I found this very eery but I still love being that guy! I miss being that guy that nobody knows his real name and everyone tells stories about and claims to know or have worked with even though they are all full of shit. That life is behind me now. :(
I don't deal in person anymore. I don't have people out selling for me. I live a much safer and much more boring life now.
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Being poor and wanting nice clothes when I was kid lol. Sad but true.
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Bahaha!! ;D
Same here Lim :)
Peace,
ChemCat O0
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Bahaha!! ;D
Same here Lim :)
Peace,
ChemCat O0
Gotta make a wage somehow. :)
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That's right :)
i give back on taxes when i pay for stuff and that's all the gov. is gettin!
LOL
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Being poor and wanting nice clothes when I was kid lol. Sad but true.
Sad story. I'm glad you have stopped following me around btw. That was embarrassing! :)
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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At first it was all a dream.
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Being poor and wanting nice clothes when I was kid lol. Sad but true.
Sad story. I'm glad you have stopped following me around btw. That was embarrassing! :)
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Yeah, being concerned over karma is too! :D
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I remember being straight edge up until I transferred elementary schools and got put on blast because I didn't know how to read the time. I had horrible adhd and a communication disorder. I was in ESL up until 5th grade because they thought I couldn't speak english. Anywho....my teacher always bullied me and then like a switch, I just wanted to smoke weed. I don't know, I just got so depressed I didn't give a fuck about being the standard good kid.
I was successful in my quest to smoke weed at 13. After that I just drank, and smoked alot of weed, dabbled with shrooms here and there, and fucked around with dxm a few times (though that's something I don't ever want to fucking do again). Then I got in a shitty fucking relationship at 14 and stopped everything for up to two years. I won't get into details, but it was abusive and manipulating. I was brain washed by a jesus freak.
After I got out of that mess, I just started smoking weed. And noow I drink on the weekends and smoke everyday. I get a script for adderall every month but I sell it nowadays after gaining a nasty habit a year back. I haven't done shrooms since my fathers passing because I just don't think I'd be ready for it, but I love a good trip. I love some good quality coke, but my only guy got jailed and deported about a year back :/ shit happens.
Fuck I'm horrible at forums haha.
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You did just fine, Missus :)
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My best friend came into school one day, pretty much obsessed with weed, saying how his parents let him try some. This was the last week of 8th grade. So that weekend he came over, insisted we smoke 2 grams he took from his parents, and got baked. We walked around the woods for awhile then went inside to eat some food.
We just graduated. He lives with his mom and smokes weed, I'm trying to get accepted into college... sad we grew apart, because he just doesnt seem to like me anymore ):
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Peer pressure had nothing to do with me getting into drugs. I was never satisfied with the peripheral world and always wanted something more but western religion just didn't cut it for me, always seemed like one bit placebo.
The first drug I tried was believe it or not nutmeg because it was easily available and I saw that it was psychoactive after reading through the vaults of erowid. While it had lots of side effects it opened me up to the wonderful world that is hallucinogens. I tried it at age 16.
After that I smoked pot, drank, tried all manner of psychedelics from LSD, shrooms, to DMT.
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I met someone on Craigslist (casual sex) who gave me free MDMA and LSD.
MDMA was my first drug. Cannabis was my last.
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I met someone on Craigslist (casual sex) who gave me free MDMA and LSD.
MDMA was my first drug. Cannabis was my last.
Well that sounds like fun! :P ;) :)
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Grew up around weed, and curiosity also I hated alcohol.
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Curiosity, I've spent too much time reading up on different types of drugs and people's experiences of them.
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Morphine was my gateway drug. When I was a kid I snapped my leg in half in an accident and the ER nurse shot me up with morphine a bit too quickly.
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curiosity mainly
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Curiosity mainly, ever since I was a teenager drugs fascinated me. I started drinking/smoking pot when I was 16. Tried Mushrooms when I was 17 aswell as MDMA. Once I turned 18 I expanded quite a bit, and tried Cocaine, LSD, Ketamine, Heroin, Salvia, and LSA. The only drug I've ever used on a continuous basis has been weed though, all the others were used <15 times. The one drug I never got into that I'm happy I didn't get into is Tobacco. Tried smoking cigs multiple times and I hate the taste.