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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Chaosforpeace on March 06, 2013, 03:47 am
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I just had a 2 page thread going about dark expresso and problems with him. What happened to the thread, it just disappeared? Can anyone shed light on this? Mods?
Here is the link to the thread which disappeared:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=128715.15
Anyway I am giving him the benefit of the doubt because he has such a great track record.
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one of the things we've learned here on The Road is that unsubstantiated sensationalist claims of negative situation never bring good to our community. the mods were likely just fixing the 2page mistake.
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And here is the message I sent him:
The flaming dragon was your most expensive bud so how could you upgrade it? Also I asked you last week and you said it was sent and everything was perfect. And when I asked if it was coming Monday you told me it was. But your saying that you switched product on me, well why didn't you tell me that when I asked and why did you say yes to Monday if you had a receipt which said Thursday Friday. I'm kind of dumbstruck here because in my several orders with you on my other account, I never had this happen. I must be mistaken here as I know how amazing you have always been. Please explain this all to me.
Also as a side note I'm pretty disappointed since I did ask you to try and rush the package so I would get it Monday and you said you would. I really needed it by today and I just lost my best 2 customers who had reserved for the flaming dragon. Now I need to give them refunds and there is this whole bullshit mess that I need to fix.
Anyway I really do trust you and I know that when it comes it will be worth it and that there must be a very good reason this happened. If you could tell me what it is that you "upgraded" me to that would be very helpful. Like a strain name or something. Flaming dragon has a 25% THC content so if you upgraded me I bet it will be awesome.
Really and truly, thanks for everything, please give me any info and help me out when you get a chance.
Chaos
Scout had messaged a few times and supplied input on the situation, a global mod, so that defintly wasn't it.
Also as a side note I have received three messages from three different people that they should have already recieved, but didn't. One said his package was confirmed for Friday and never came and still hasn't. The other two said they were confirmed for Monday and never recieved along with no communication from DE.
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And here is the message I sent him:
The flaming dragon was your most expensive bud so how could you upgrade it? Also I asked you last week and you said it was sent and everything was perfect. And when I asked if it was coming Monday you told me it was. But your saying that you switched product on me, well why didn't you tell me that when I asked and why did you say yes to Monday if you had a receipt which said Thursday Friday. I'm kind of dumbstruck here because in my several orders with you on my other account, I never had this happen. I must be mistaken here as I know how amazing you have always been. Please explain this all to me.
Also as a side note I'm pretty disappointed since I did ask you to try and rush the package so I would get it Monday and you said you would. I really needed it by today and I just lost my best 2 customers who had reserved for the flaming dragon. Now I need to give them refunds and there is this whole bullshit mess that I need to fix.
Anyway I really do trust you and I know that when it comes it will be worth it and that there must be a very good reason this happened. If you could tell me what it is that you "upgraded" me to that would be very helpful. Like a strain name or something. Flaming dragon has a 25% THC content so if you upgraded me I bet it will be awesome.
Really and truly, thanks for everything, please give me any info and help me out when you get a chance.
Chaos
Scout had messaged a few times and supplied input on the situation, a global mod, so that defintly wasn't it.
Also as a side note I have received three messages from three different people that they should have already recieved, but didn't. One said his package was confirmed for Friday and never came and still hasn't. The other two said they were confirmed for Monday and never recieved along with no communication from DE.
Ok-----Relax. DE is a good seed!! I have had problems with him too, but for the most part things were fixed. DE is here for the long run, and things do happen behind the scenes! Give DE a chance, and wait till end of week. No one likes that, but we all get shit late sometimes. I am not sticking up for DE, but giving him the benifit from previous transactions.
Calm down, relax, and let the process work. If you did not FE, than you should be good. My guess. There is no compromise, just slow USPS, or a backed up vendor!!
DE is a good vendor, and has more to loose than just your order!!!
Take my word.. Kick back relax, and let it happen!!! Peace
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And here is the message I sent him:
The flaming dragon was your most expensive bud so how could you upgrade it? Also I asked you last week and you said it was sent and everything was perfect. And when I asked if it was coming Monday you told me it was. But your saying that you switched product on me, well why didn't you tell me that when I asked and why did you say yes to Monday if you had a receipt which said Thursday Friday. I'm kind of dumbstruck here because in my several orders with you on my other account, I never had this happen. I must be mistaken here as I know how amazing you have always been. Please explain this all to me.
Also as a side note I'm pretty disappointed since I did ask you to try and rush the package so I would get it Monday and you said you would. I really needed it by today and I just lost my best 2 customers who had reserved for the flaming dragon. Now I need to give them refunds and there is this whole bullshit mess that I need to fix.
Anyway I really do trust you and I know that when it comes it will be worth it and that there must be a very good reason this happened. If you could tell me what it is that you "upgraded" me to that would be very helpful. Like a strain name or something. Flaming dragon has a 25% THC content so if you upgraded me I bet it will be awesome.
Really and truly, thanks for everything, please give me any info and help me out when you get a chance.
Chaos
Scout had messaged a few times and supplied input on the situation, a global mod, so that defintly wasn't it.
Also as a side note I have received three messages from three different people that they should have already recieved, but didn't. One said his package was confirmed for Friday and never came and still hasn't. The other two said they were confirmed for Monday and never recieved along with no communication from DE.
Ok-----Relax. DE is a good seed!! I have had problems with him too, but for the most part things were fixed. DE is here for the long run, and things do happen behind the scenes! Give DE a chance, and wait till end of week. No one likes that, but we all get shit late sometimes. I am not sticking up for DE, but giving him the benifit from previous transactions.
Calm down, relax, and let the process work. If you did not FE, than you should be good. My guess. There is no compromise, just slow USPS, or a backed up vendor!!
DE is a good vendor, and has more to loose than just your order!!!
Take my word.. Kick back relax, and let it happen!!! Peace
Mine didn't arrive either, was marked in transit wednesday (2/27) but message him and wasn't sent out until saturday (3/2). Now the tracking says it was delivered yesterday (monday). It's now tuesday and still no package.
Also, i've ordered many LB's from DE and everything always went smooth. Hopefully it's just USPS being slow or marked delivered when it wasn't yet.
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Well I did FE, but as I said I am indeed giving him the benefit of the doubt because of his track record. This is just a huge inconvience.
Something isn't right and it seemed to happen to not just me, but allot of people are experiencing problems with him all of a sudden. Could it be that LE is on his account. As I said this is way out of character.
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To update I recieved a message just now from another buyer who says his tracking info just changed and now is displaying that his was missent also? Something isn't right? Maybe this is just some huge strange coincidence?
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I think him being compromised is much less likely than him just being on vacation or something with some moron running the show. DE was the first vendor I ever bought from, and he didn't even ask me to FE. In fact I fucked up and didn't' even put a name on the address, but he was totally cool about my needing help. ::)
I'm sure it's all good. Eventually, anyway.
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I think him being compromised is much less likely than him just being on vacation or something with some moron running the show. DE was the first vendor I ever bought from, and he didn't even ask me to FE. In fact I fucked up and didn't' even put a name on the address, but he was totally cool about my needing help. ::)
I'm sure it's all good. Eventually, anyway.
I hope your right.
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Well full disclosure, I haven't read the whole thread here, but I just don't see any way that a government agency would benefit from rerouting packages in transit. I mean it makes no sense. If they had access to the account, they'd... do stuff. Or not, I mean what the fuck are they gonna do, SR doesn't have a ton of records or anything like that.
I don't think they'd fuck with everybody's weed that's already on the way though, regardless, ya know.
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I more worried that it got delivered to the wrong address. My tracking number says it was delivered on monday, i didn't get it then or on tuesday and mail is about to come today so i'm not sure yet.
I read how del confirm can say delivered then its delivered a day or so later. hopefully that's the case.
I ordered 2 lb of the flaming dragon, i'm gonna be out a lot of loot.
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Weedmylips have you contacted DE yet? Did he respond?
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Weedmylips have you contacted DE yet? Did he respond?
I wrote him yesterday and he replied within like 6 hours with the tracking number and it says it's delivered on monday.
But it's now wednesday and the mail came and still nothing.
I wrote him back after he sent the tracking saying i didn't get anything but he hasn't even read that message yet. He usually always get back to me within a day.
Also, check his page and doesn't look like anyone received anything today, which i guess isn't weird but usually there is multiple feedback's every day considering how much he sends out.
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Well DE just messaged me back and he isn't happy. Because I brought this all to light he said he lost business and told me I can't order from him again. Here is a copy of my message and his:
Me
"The flaming dragon was your most expensive bud so how could you upgrade it? Also I asked you last week and you said it was sent and everything was perfect. And when I asked if it was coming Monday you told me it was. But your saying that you switched product on me, well why didn't you tell me that when I asked and why did you say yes to Monday if you had a receipt which said Thursday Friday. I'm kind of dumbstruck here because in my several orders with you on my other account, I never had this happen. I must be mistaken here as I know how amazing you have always been. Please explain this all to me.
Also as a side note I'm pretty disappointed since I did ask you to try and rush the package so I would get it Monday and you said you would. I really needed it by today and I just lost my best 2 customers who had reserved for the flaming dragon. Now I need to give them refunds and there is this whole bullshit mess that I need to fix.
Anyway I really do trust you and I know that when it comes it will be worth it and that there must be a very good reason this happened. If you could tell me what it is that you "upgraded" me to that would be very helpful. Like a strain name or something. Flaming dragon has a 25% THC content so if you upgraded me I bet it will be awesome.
Really and truly, thanks for everything, please give me any info and help me out when you get a chance.
Chaos"
Him
"Brother i do likw 20 ships a day, i had new stuff, i mark it all, if you were lucky enough u will see the upgrade name on the package, and about the USPS mistake, that was their mistake, and it is redirected to u
Now listen, i have other clients who saw your negative post about me and now are cancelling orders. I wont be selling to you anymore man, this is bullshit, best most understanding vendor and i get ripped by you on posts and you scare off some of my best customers.
not fair to me man, you just cost about 15k in sales."
My response
"Not fair to you why is it fair to me? You never explained why you lied and told me the flaming dragon sent out and it would come Monday. Even though you now said you knew it would come Wednesday Thursday and that it wasn't flaming dragon. You can't tell me I am 100% in the wrong. Also I spoke to a few other people on the forums who said they had the same problems as I did. So can't you understand why I was afraid something went wrong?"
Am I in the wrong here? I was lied to and had people tell me that they were experiencing the same problems. I never intended on taking away any of his business, but if I was running a business and I screwed up I wouldn't blame the customer.
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You're both in the wrong. I think you overreacted, but I sure as Hell think he did too.
But honestly, if that 15k is accurate... well, when's the last time you spent 15k with DE -- business is business, and if he thinks you'll cost him more money than you'll make him, suppose that's all the reason he needs. Again though, I think it's a bit much (although I do think it was unnecessary to be so public, but whatever, it happens -- don't feel too bad about it).
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Well DE just messaged me back and he isn't happy. Because I brought this all to light he said he lost business and told me I can't order from him again. Here is a copy of my message and his:
Me
"The flaming dragon was your most expensive bud so how could you upgrade it? Also I asked you last week and you said it was sent and everything was perfect. And when I asked if it was coming Monday you told me it was. But your saying that you switched product on me, well why didn't you tell me that when I asked and why did you say yes to Monday if you had a receipt which said Thursday Friday. I'm kind of dumbstruck here because in my several orders with you on my other account, I never had this happen. I must be mistaken here as I know how amazing you have always been. Please explain this all to me.
Also as a side note I'm pretty disappointed since I did ask you to try and rush the package so I would get it Monday and you said you would. I really needed it by today and I just lost my best 2 customers who had reserved for the flaming dragon. Now I need to give them refunds and there is this whole bullshit mess that I need to fix.
Anyway I really do trust you and I know that when it comes it will be worth it and that there must be a very good reason this happened. If you could tell me what it is that you "upgraded" me to that would be very helpful. Like a strain name or something. Flaming dragon has a 25% THC content so if you upgraded me I bet it will be awesome.
Really and truly, thanks for everything, please give me any info and help me out when you get a chance.
Chaos"
Him
"Brother i do likw 20 ships a day, i had new stuff, i mark it all, if you were lucky enough u will see the upgrade name on the package, and about the USPS mistake, that was their mistake, and it is redirected to u
Now listen, i have other clients who saw your negative post about me and now are cancelling orders. I wont be selling to you anymore man, this is bullshit, best most understanding vendor and i get ripped by you on posts and you scare off some of my best customers.
not fair to me man, you just cost about 15k in sales."
My response
"Not fair to you why is it fair to me? You never explained why you lied and told me the flaming dragon sent out and it would come Monday. Even though you now said you knew it would come Wednesday Thursday and that it wasn't flaming dragon. You can't tell me I am 100% in the wrong. Also I spoke to a few other people on the forums who said they had the same problems as I did. So can't you understand why I was afraid something went wrong?"
Am I in the wrong here? I was lied to and had people tell me that they were experiencing the same problems. I never intended on taking away any of his business, but if I was running a business and I screwed up I wouldn't blame the customer.
well if the dumbass wasn't jerking you around then you would have had no reason to post this. its funny because i'll bet the only reason he replied in the first place was because he saw this thread. fuck him, he is a liar. a liar is the absolute worst type of vendor (other than outright scamming ones, of course).
you ARE NOT in the wrong at all.. other than choosing to FE. one day, you people will learn. whether that be the hard way or the easy way.. most people choose the hard way and it's sad.
FE= Fucked Easily
good luck with everything.. i hope it all works out for you.. but you should remember to never FE.
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I always understood never to FE. The only reason I FE'd is because I have had so many positive tranactions with him. I guess this is the last one :( . I also deal with like three other vendors on a consistent basis and I trust them so I FE. Now I fear what if one day they need an extra buck they might scam me.
Everything is trust. I only do business with those I trust. I have the same policy for my customers. If they don't trust me then I won't sell to them.
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I agree with de. Douchebags flilping out on the forums when something in less than a week late is rediculous. And if you cost him loyal customers than he should cut you off. He was probably trying to handle your shit while you were bashing him on here. Just saying though. I dont care cuz i dont use SR for pot. I live in weedville
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Never FE on more money than you are comfortable losing. Scams tend to come from vendors who build up trust over time and then selectively or all out scam those who FE. When you are new it's hard to get away with that. The biggest scams ever on SR came from very trusted vendors who slowly worked buyers into getting comfortable with FE until enough did so that it was worth it to take the money and run. People lose money and the vendor has the option to open another account and do it again. I'm not saying that's what is going on here, but I am warning you not to let your trust interfere with making smart decisions. Hopefully you are getting something extra for FE, if not then why do it? I think people get too comfortable here and that's usually when bad things happen. Like it or not this is a dirty business, no matter how clean SR makes it seem. Stay safe and Be Smart.
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I always understood never to FE. The only reason I FE'd is because I have had so many positive tranactions with him. I guess this is the last one :( . I also deal with like three other vendors on a consistent basis and I trust them so I FE. Now I fear what if one day they need an extra buck they might scam me.
Everything is trust. I only do business with those I trust. I have the same policy for my customers. If they don't trust me then I won't sell to them.
sorry, but you clearly dont understand to never FE- seeing as you do and did, and are now in a pickle because of it. there is no justifiable excuse to FE, except being stupid. like i said, some people have to learn the hard way, some the easy way.. i hope for your sake it is the easy way and you get your shit and your fiasco causes you to never FE again.
there is no trust on SR.. you should never trust anybody with your money on an online website that sells drugs.. where money is sent anonymously and the people (vendors, especially) are even more anonymous.
robotrippin put it perfectly, and a lot nicer.
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I said in your first thread that you were over-reacting. Freaking out and stirring up a bunch of shit about an order than isn't even a week old is just messy.
DE is right for banning you. Good luck getting better weed from a bulk vendor at a comparable price.
This isn't Wal-Mart, and when you're dealing with the USPS nothing is guaranteed except Express Service.