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Title: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: KitKatisBorednow on February 28, 2013, 09:21 am
Any ideas for a weight loss drug that won't make me become dependant on it to function or drive me insane?  I have had some sucess with phentermine (makes me really moody and eventually paranoid), adderall (too expensive and the same side effects but not nearly as bad), and other stims...but the problems are

1.  Too expensive for daily use without a prescription
2. Make me completely nuts (phentermine, the only affordable option)
3. Cause dependency

So I know some people use clenbuterol...anyone have experience with that? 

Yeah, yeah I know, eat clean, exercise, but it's really something I haven't the time or energy to do like I used to be able to.  I am lucky if I have time to eat two meals a day and I can exercise, but it's not like I can devote 2 hours a day to it like I used to.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: dfghxcv on February 28, 2013, 09:36 am
"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today (For Immediate Release: July 17, 2012) approved Qsymia (phentermine and topiramate extended-release) as an addition to a reduced-calorie diet and exercise for chronic weight management."

Topiramate (topamax) is an anti-migraine/seizure medicine that has weight loss as a side effect.

Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: graffix on March 01, 2013, 12:22 am
2 hours a day?

Go hard for 45 minutes, eat right and your golden.

But have you ever looked into Anavar? Its great for cutting down, but you still need to do some type of exercise. You could run it for up to 8 weeks, but its pricey..best bet is to find a bulk supplier of the powder rather than pills.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: Snudz on March 01, 2013, 12:52 am
It's either stimulants like meth, amphetamines or ephedrine/pseudoephedrine... One or two steroids do rip your body too, can't remember the names of them both... but as mentioned above "Anavar" might be one of them!

The "safest" way to go is probably ephedrine mixed with caffeine and Paracetamol (Alvedone)
its a real heartracer combo, and you should NOT do hard training if you somehow decide to try it.. normal walking and easy chins/presses etc. low weight, low rep. rest is important to not make your heart collapse if your in bad condition!

Before you try any kind of drugs to help in weight loss, i strongly recommend to do normal exercise, eat healthy to get your body ready for it.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: KitKatisBorednow on March 01, 2013, 02:56 am
2 hours a day?

Go hard for 45 minutes, eat right and your golden.

But have you ever looked into Anavar? Its great for cutting down, but you still need to do some type of exercise. You could run it for up to 8 weeks, but its pricey..best bet is to find a bulk supplier of the powder rather than pills.

Never heard of it...will google it later when I am not using Tor Browser.  Is it sold in the US?
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: graffix on March 01, 2013, 02:59 am
Yeap and its pricey..... BUT like I said, gotta workout a bit...but google it and see if you may like it...
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: KitKatisBorednow on March 01, 2013, 03:07 am
Yeap and its pricey..... BUT like I said, gotta workout a bit...but google it and see if you may like it...

Well it can't be more pricey than going out of my mind after 19 days on phentermine or having to buy adderall at $400 a month.  I will check it out.  I am more of a ashtanga yoga person than anything.  Hopefully that still counts as exercise.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: partygurl1 on March 01, 2013, 03:38 am
A friend of mine just recently started taking Strattera for ADD as an alternative to the stims like adderral/ritalin.  She lost about 20 pounds since she started it and it makes her not hungry.  I do not think it is even a controlled substance.  Check it out.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: objectsmayappear on March 01, 2013, 03:42 am
It may be hard to believe (or easy to believe, perspective dependent) but cannabis can help you lose weight by speeding up your metabolism as long as you avoid the munchies. Caffeine has also been proven to help you lose more weight in conjunction with exercise compared to exercise without.

Other tips - keep on moving, whether it's just tapping your feet or fingers every little adds up.

Disclaimer: I'm diagnosed anorexic and when i stopped smoking weed i stopped eating completely too :P
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: KitKatisBorednow on March 01, 2013, 03:43 am
A friend of mine just recently started taking Strattera for ADD as an alternative to the stims like adderral/ritalin.  She lost about 20 pounds since she started it and it makes her not hungry.  I do not think it is even a controlled substance.  Check it out.

Ohhhh....excellent!  I have ADD and maybe my doc will prescribe it.  He is pretty scared of giving me anything more than a sugar pill right now. 

Hopefully it comes in a generic.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: partygurl1 on March 01, 2013, 03:48 am
Not sure if it does bc I think it is fairly new, but I am not positive, hopefully you have insurance.
I myself have used both phentermine and adderral for weight loss.  Personally I like the the energy they both give me.  I build up a tolerance to the phen really quick though so I take it for only weeks at a time.  Have you tried the tenuate with the phentermine?  I ordered both about a month ago on the road and have lost about 15.  The only thing is when I stop taking it it seems to creep right back.  I am going on vacation in a few weeks and have to wear a bathing suit or else I would not even bother....
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: KitKatisBorednow on March 01, 2013, 03:53 am
Not sure if it does bc I think it is fairly new, but I am not positive, hopefully you have insurance.
I myself have used both phentermine and adderral for weight loss.  Personally I like the the energy they both give me.  I build up a tolerance to the phen really quick though so I take it for only weeks at a time.  Have you tried the tenuate with the phentermine?  I ordered both about a month ago on the road and have lost about 15.  The only thing is when I stop taking it it seems to creep right back.  I am going on vacation in a few weeks and have to wear a bathing suit or else I would not even bother....

It is so weird, but Phentermine makes me go completely crazy.  I will be ok for a while on it and then start getting horrible mood swings and completely freak the fuck out.  Adderall, Ritalin, Concerta etc doesn't do this to me unless I increase the dose to crazy amounts.  And I only take 1/2 of a 37.5 mg Phentermine tablet and can go the whole day not eating and not realise it....so it's not like I am taking a bunch of it.  I am just really sensitive to it.   It's like my Kryptonite or something. 
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: partygurl1 on March 01, 2013, 04:01 am
That sucks, adderral can do that to me that's why I don't really take it for more than a day or two.  Phen works like that for me maybe the first week or two, but even with taking 2 or even 3 of the 37.5s I start getting my appetite back.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: partygurl1 on March 01, 2013, 04:05 am
I saw that the vendor I have used for pills has a dextroamphetmine listing.  Have you tried this?  Sounds like a stim but maybe it wont affect you like the others.  I was thinking of trying iit myself as a change.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: sendji on March 01, 2013, 04:10 am
Is Phentermine the "Phen-Phen" that had a class action against it back in the day?
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: KitKatisBorednow on March 01, 2013, 04:17 am
Is Phentermine the "Phen-Phen" that had a class action against it back in the day?

It is one half of the combination.  The ingredient that comprised the other half was banned. No idea how to spell or pronounce it at the moment so won't try...lol
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: partygurl1 on March 01, 2013, 04:20 am
It was one half of Phen-Fen, the other medicine was fenfluxomine or something like that.  Phentermine is relatively safe when used alone in correct dosages but doctors usually only prescribe for 3 months max. And for people who are considered obese.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: exis on March 01, 2013, 06:53 am
Not drugs, but taking Conjugated Linoeic Acid (CLA) and Medium Chain Triglycerides (MCT, from coconut oil) helped me a lot with energy and a bit of weight loss.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: oohlalola on March 04, 2013, 05:04 pm
Not to threadjack, but I'm also interested in weight loss drugs. The issue is I also take antidepressants and have massive mood swings anyway, so if I would get the same side effect from phentermine that others are mentioning, that would be an incredibly bad deal. I try to work out but I just don't have any endurance. Also motivation is a factor because I'm a lazy bitch, let's be real.

The one that makes you sweat like crazy sounds scary, I don't think I'm up for that. I don't need to lose a ton of weight, maybe 15-20 lbs. Reccomendations?

TLDR - too lazy to work out, want to take weight loss pill without dying
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: coffeebeast on March 04, 2013, 05:07 pm
honestly man if you just cut the carbonated beverages from your diet completely you will lose mad weight. just drink water. and i know its hard but i did it once and lost 10 lbs really fast
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: oohlalola on March 04, 2013, 09:31 pm
That's totally a legit tip, but I haven't had a soda in years. Tastes gross to me. So yeah, can't really cut any more than nonexistent.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: objectsmayappear on March 05, 2013, 03:20 am
Not to threadjack, but I'm also interested in weight loss drugs. The issue is I also take antidepressants and have massive mood swings anyway, so if I would get the same side effect from phentermine that others are mentioning, that would be an incredibly bad deal. I try to work out but I just don't have any endurance. Also motivation is a factor because I'm a lazy bitch, let's be real.

The one that makes you sweat like crazy sounds scary, I don't think I'm up for that. I don't need to lose a ton of weight, maybe 15-20 lbs. Reccomendations?

TLDR - too lazy to work out, want to take weight loss pill without dying

either take stimulants/appettite surpressants or just stop eating.

i found allowing myself only less than an hour a couple hours before bed to eat worked pretty well.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: chronoflood on March 05, 2013, 03:23 am
weigh loss, eh?
forget drugs, my friends- i have something revolutionary that will get you the physique you want.
until now, this method was highly classified by the the government.
you ready?
it's called....

The "eat less, move more" method.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: Cooler on March 05, 2013, 03:49 am
weigh loss, eh?
forget drugs, my friends- i have something revolutionary that will get you the physique you want.
until now, this method was highly classified by the the government.
you ready?
it's called....

The "eat less, move more" method.

That's crazy. You're crazy. You should be locked away for posting such vile trash. I can see why it's classified by the government. Only a fool would attempt such atrocities.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: oohlalola on March 05, 2013, 05:07 pm
Kids, we already went over this, I'm LAZY. I want to buy the easy way out and will hear none of this "diet and exercise" shenanigans.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: Cooler on March 05, 2013, 05:17 pm
Kids, we already went over this, I'm LAZY. I want to buy the easy way out and will hear none of this "diet and exercise" shenanigans.

Liposuction.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: KitKatisBorednow on March 05, 2013, 05:21 pm
Kids, we already went over this, I'm LAZY. I want to buy the easy way out and will hear none of this "diet and exercise" shenanigans.

LOL!
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: SelfSovereignty on March 05, 2013, 05:31 pm
I'm too lazy to read what everyone else has said, but if nobody's pointed it out: there are no viable weight loss drugs.  At all.  Anywhere.  Any you find will either kill you, damage you, or let you down in the end and stop working before you even reach your target weight.

If there were an effective weight loss drug, big pharma would get it legalized no matter the cost.  30% of America would be taking it, plus a bunch of idiots who think they're fat when they really aren't.  That's crazy profit right there.  It isn't available because nobody has one.
Title: Re: Weight loss dugs that are not stimulants?
Post by: TreeStamp on March 06, 2013, 04:56 am
Honestly, I love drugs very much but to safely and consistently lose weight you should count calories and reduce the amount you eat. This is the only way to do it safely.