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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: sniper123 on February 25, 2013, 09:31 pm
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I just received my sample from fiberoptic. Let the research begin!
Substance:4fma
ROA:Smoked out of light bulb
Dosage:200mg
Effects noticed are:mood uplift, mental stimulation Body euphoria Small empathy. Dry mouth. Cold limbs Tachardia. (subtle, nothing compared to mdpv.) Body seems to be relaxed. Very subtle body stimulation. No jitters.
Sticky throat and lungs. (minor lung irritation. I believe it's the fluorine, since i get the same lung irritation from 4fa-kb48 and 5fur-144
Substance:2fma
ROA:Smoked out of light bulb
Effects noticed:Mental stimulation, dry mouth, Cold limbs. Body seemed slightly tense. Small nausea. No jitters.
I found the 4fma to be more rolly. It reminded me more of MDMA. 2FMA reminded me more of aphetamine. (It was more mental stimulating and focused. I see it being used for a study aid.) I really enjoyed the 4fma when it came to empathy. Overall, both substances seemed very clean.
The packaging was professional. It appeared to be legitimately from where it claimed to be from. Vacuum sealed.
So all in all. Everything seems in order and FireOptic is a blessing for someone that has been searching and searching for domestic 4fma and 2fma. I highly recommend this vendor!
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I should be getting a sample too soon. I'm very curious as well.
UPDATE: product arrived.
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a few days ago I posted a link to a file about some research that was done about 4-FA and 4-FMA,
but since then it seems that the forum page on which I posted this link was deleted - I cannot even find a trace of it in my list of posts... very strange... and I'm sorry, but I can't remember where the link was going to on the clearnet...
if you can find my previous post, do read the info (it seems to be quite unhealthy...) and lett me know where you found it...
4-FA and 4-FMA are not the same product, but if I remember right, 4-FMA splits into 4-FA after a while in your body and thus the toxicity is quite similar
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2-FMA is the BEST. Better than methamphetamine or Adderall even.
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a few days ago I posted a link to a file about some research that was done about 4-FA and 4-FMA,
but since then it seems that the forum page on which I posted this link was deleted - I cannot even find a trace of it in my list of posts... very strange... and I'm sorry, but I can't remember where the link was going to on the clearnet...
if you can find my previous post, do read the info (it seems to be quite unhealthy...) and lett me know where you found it...
4-FA and 4-FMA are not the same product, but if I remember right, 4-FMA splits into 4-FA after a while in your body and thus the toxicity is quite similar
I've read about the toxicity of 4fa. I understand people's concern about toxicity when it comes to 4fma. I'm keeping an open mind, but i also know i have to be realistic. I'm comparing the toxicity of 4fma to meth.
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I don't care for 4-FMA, myself. Every time I try it, I dislike the sensation it causes and I decide I don't want to try anymore... so I've never actually gotten a really good dose of it, because I don't want to fuck up half of an entire day with a drug I don't even enjoy :P
2-FMA is good stuff, no doubt. I really don't understand the people who say it's better than adderall for ADHD though. Maybe it's just the people who don't actually have ADHD and are taking adderall because we throw it at so many people so easily these days... I don't know. Regardless, 2-FMA is certainly not more effective than amphetamine for me personally. It's interesting though.
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I don't care for 4-FMA, myself. Every time I try it, I dislike the sensation it causes and I decide I don't want to try anymore... so I've never actually gotten a really good dose of it, because I don't want to fuck up half of an entire day with a drug I don't even enjoy :P
2-FMA is good stuff, no doubt. I really don't understand the people who say it's better than adderall for ADHD though. Maybe it's just the people who don't actually have ADHD and are taking adderall because we throw it at so many people so easily these days... I don't know. Regardless, 2-FMA is certainly not more effective than amphetamine for me personally. It's interesting though.
I hated 4fa, until i found a vendor that had good product. Your experience with 4fma may be misleading due to the vendor in question. Could you elaborate on what exactly you didn't like? Also, what was the ROA and dosage. (It can be rough estimate.) Thanks for your input SS. It's good to get a fellow meth user to chime in.
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Well I got it from Rinran, and the MDPV from him is... well I've never had MDPV before, but it seems perfectly fine to me. I mean I enjoy the odd 5-10mg on top of my constant meth, but not enough to do it all the time or anything. So anyway, my point is that I have no reason to suspect the quality is questionable.
And no, I can't really elaborate, honestly. It's not any specific sensation, just... well you know how there are drugs that you just kind of don't like, but until you've taken them a few times you can't really identify the specific sensation they cause in order to say "yeah, I'm quite sure now that I don't like this?" Well it's like that, except I've only tried it 2 or 3 times so I can't pinpoint the effects very well yet.
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LOL... I think I need some more tweak -- my mind's wandering way too easily ::)
RoA was oral, insufflation, and vaping. Once each. BTW, does 4-FMA usually burn like a mother fucker? I expected it to be very mild like 2-FMA or amphetamine maybe, but the 4-FMA I have burns like fucking meth when I blow it.
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LOL... I think I need some more tweak -- my mind's wandering way too easily ::)
RoA was oral, insufflation, and vaping. Once each. BTW, does 4-FMA usually burn like a mother fucker? I expected it to be very mild like 2-FMA or amphetamine maybe, but the 4-FMA I have burns like fucking meth when I blow it.
I don't know. I'll update you on that after while. I'm currently sticking to one ROA for the experiment. When you tried the 4fma did you cease your meth use and allow up to three days of drying out (Staying sober.) before trying 4fma? I dried out for a total of five days before trying 4fma to give it a fair chance. I'm enjoying 4fma so far. Don't get me wrong, it's not a meth replacement by any means, but there's something it has to offer. (I can't quit tell what that is yet.)
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LOL... I think I need some more tweak -- my mind's wandering way too easily ::)
RoA was oral, insufflation, and vaping. Once each. BTW, does 4-FMA usually burn like a mother fucker? I expected it to be very mild like 2-FMA or amphetamine maybe, but the 4-FMA I have burns like fucking meth when I blow it.
I don't know. I'll update you on that after while. I'm currently sticking to one ROA for the experiment. When you tried the 4fma did you cease your meth use and allow up to three days of drying out (Staying sober.) before trying 4fma? I dried out for a total of five days before trying 4fma to give it a fair chance. I'm enjoying 4fma so far. Don't get me wrong, it's not a meth replacement by any means, but there's something it has to offer. (I can't quit tell what that is yet.)
I literally burst out in laughter... I'm sorry, bro, but me not on meth for 3 full days? That hasn't happened for months... just how it is, ya know. I'm always on meth. If I'm not in bed bitching about not being able to do anything because I'm fucking sober, then I'm on meth.
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LOL... I think I need some more tweak -- my mind's wandering way too easily ::)
RoA was oral, insufflation, and vaping. Once each. BTW, does 4-FMA usually burn like a mother fucker? I expected it to be very mild like 2-FMA or amphetamine maybe, but the 4-FMA I have burns like fucking meth when I blow it.
I don't know. I'll update you on that after while. I'm currently sticking to one ROA for the experiment. When you tried the 4fma did you cease your meth use and allow up to three days of drying out (Staying sober.) before trying 4fma? I dried out for a total of five days before trying 4fma to give it a fair chance. I'm enjoying 4fma so far. Don't get me wrong, it's not a meth replacement by any means, but there's something it has to offer. (I can't quit tell what that is yet.)
I literally burst out in laughter... I'm sorry, bro, but me not on meth for 3 full days? That hasn't happened for months... just how it is, ya know. I'm always on meth. If I'm not in bed bitching about not being able to do anything because I'm fucking sober, then I'm on meth.
Yeah i started to get that way. It was good when i seen i could go five days without meth. To be honest, before then i can't remember of a time i wasn't on meth in the last two years.
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After dedicating a couple hours to research of 4-FA here are my conclusions. I mostly used BlueLight, erowid, drug-forums, etc.
So 4-FA is supposedly like somewhere between MDMA and meth. A good starting dose is about 100mg orally and 20mg nasally (excruciatingly painful). It's especially not good to do too much cuz it just ruins the trip. It's pretty bad for one's body so it shouldn't be abused often but with the negative effects that may occur the next day, it is unlikely to become addicted. However it is possible. Appetite tends to be suppressed. Music tends to sound better. There's a euphoria involved for about 3-4 hours which is the peak but the trip can last for a very long time (6-12 hours). Effects can still be felt the next day.
UPDATE: I snorted approximately 25mg of 2-FMA. It didn't hurt too bad but had no effect. Over an hour later, I mixed approximately 100mg of 4-FA in a drink. It was super fun! I felt so good and sociable even though I was alone (and planned to be). I tried to do normal work stuff but couldn't focus. I was pretty jittery and awake all night. However, my jaw was very tense. It's a few days later now, and it still hurts. Please make sure you're not overworking your jaw while on this stuff. The next night day I took a nap and felt so refreshed. That night I mixed about 100mg of 4-FMA in a drink. It didn't have the same mood increase but I still had fun. My girlfriend was kind of acting like me the night before on the 4-FA so I think it had something to do with tolerance. We talked for about 7 hours straight and still felt there was so much else we wanted to talk about. It was amazing and therapeutic. I imagine that's what doctors had in mind when they had the idea to use MDMA for couples therapy. Again, up all night, yet still not a worn out feeling from it. I definitely will be taking a nice break from any and all amphetamines though because I don't think my body appreciated what I put it through. Haha
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(excruciatingly painful)
i used 4fa about a year ago for a few months. i started oral and then snorting. The pain is nothing like i have ever imagined. but i still did it.
i lost my sense of smell. for a while.
I looked into my nose a few days ago. and i saw scars. no kidding. Im pretty sure the 4-Fa abuse caused them. i did snort a lot of other stuff. but nothing burns like 4-fa.
don't snort it.
and be careful with the redosing. dropping 100 mg and dropping some more a few hours later gave me nasty blood pressure problems. twice. i went blind and all i heard was white noise when i tried to stand up or tried to move. blood rushing all over the place. nasty.
ear ringing. that lasted for a year....
i think its nothing like mdma.
it has a serotonin effect but its a whole different world. its not gonna get you into that e-tarded lovely state. no hugging or foot massages...
it did not have a dopamine or nor-epinephrine feeling. at all. no jitters. sex was no problem.
its clean, focused and good for getting shit done. but i think its not good for studying. mind can wander easily.
it felt very therapeutic. good for depression.
no hard craving. did not feel too addictive. i could stop easily when i ran out. but i did get panic attacks for about 2 weeks.
i used it for about 2 months nearly every day.
i loved this chem till i saw the other side of it. I loved to stand around in my garden after staying up all night. the air was so cold and fresh. sun coming up. shining. the colors. amazing. the light of the rising sun is a strong anti depressant.
it was a blissful synergy of light and chemical.
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(excruciatingly painful)
i used 4fa about a year ago for a few months. i started oral and then snorting. The pain is nothing like i have ever imagined. but i still did it.
i lost my sense of smell. for a while.
I looked into my nose a few days ago. and i saw scars. no kidding. Im pretty sure the 4-Fa abuse caused them. i did snort a lot of other stuff. but nothing burns like 4-fa.
don't snort it.
No kidding. I have snorted grams of the stuff. The burn is retarded, and not very effective that way. Dunno why I did that.
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I think I like 2-FA more than 2-FMA or 4-FMA so far.