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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: ItalianMafiaBrussels on February 24, 2013, 11:38 pm

Title: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: ItalianMafiaBrussels on February 24, 2013, 11:38 pm
It's confusing, how do you rank up higher?

I am confused because i see one vendor having this:

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has been a member for 1 year
was last seen: today
ranked in the top 6% of sellers with 99% positive feedback from more than 300 transactions

and another vendor

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has been a member for 7 months
was last seen: today
ranked in the top 1% of sellers with 97.4% positive feedback from more than 300 transactions
has 1182 fans - become a fan

The first vendor has more than 300 transactions too, but has higher positive feedback, yet he's ranked lower than the second vendor.

 :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: eddiethegun on February 24, 2013, 11:46 pm
For reals man. Good question.

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has been a member for 4 months
was last seen: today
ranked in the top 33% of sellers with 100% positive feedback from more than 300 transactions
has 97 fans

wtf?

It's one of DPR's wonky secret algorithms.
I was in the top 97% until I did an online lotto game for like 2 weeks and that brought me down to like 20th percentile, even though I got 100% 5/5 feedback. Who knows...
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: midlandsmafia on February 24, 2013, 11:59 pm
It's also the pricing of the products..
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: ItalianMafiaBrussels on February 25, 2013, 12:11 am
It's also the pricing of the products..

The pricing of the products. huh  :o

I'm thinking now it's mainly the feedback % / transaction ratio.

The maximum visible transactions are 300 ?  ... vendor A that has "300+ transactions"  may have 310 actual transactions while vendor B that also has "300+ transactions" may have 2000 actual transactions..

If anyone knows how to really rank up, please let me know :D
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: midlandsmafia on February 25, 2013, 12:26 am
Sorry I meant how much money has been through your account, not the prices.
It's a combination of all of though
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: eddiethegun on February 25, 2013, 12:29 am
It's also the pricing of the products..

Agreed. It seems to heavily weight the average transaction amount.
(The only reasonable explanation for how doing hundreds of small $ value 5/5 transactions actually DECREASES your rating. Unless the categories themselves are weighted, but that seems less plausible)
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: WatLanBoon on February 25, 2013, 11:55 am
not disimilar to other online market ranking systems
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: connoisseur on February 25, 2013, 03:53 pm
It depends on your ratings and your transaction volume, I presume.
SR applies algorithms towards the ratings that give the most recent ratings more weight in the calculation.
But eddietheguns slide cannot be explained this way as he has 5/ratings only.
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: zerik on February 26, 2013, 01:28 am
Just one bad transaction can seriously drop someone's %. It's like that on most sites like eBay or amazon. I wouldn't just go by the %. Look at the feedback and also do a search on the forums.

Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: onetwothree on February 26, 2013, 02:36 am

It's one of DPR's wonky secret algorithms.


http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Feedback_Score

I was in the top 97% until I did an online lotto game for like 2 weeks and that brought me down to like 20th percentile, even though I got 100% 5/5 feedback. Who knows...

Maybe I'm misreading what you're saying, but being in the top 20% is way better than being in the top 97%...
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: eddiethegun on February 26, 2013, 03:55 am

It's one of DPR's wonky secret algorithms.


http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Feedback_Score

I was in the top 97% until I did an online lotto game for like 2 weeks and that brought me down to like 20th percentile, even though I got 100% 5/5 feedback. Who knows...

Maybe I'm misreading what you're saying, but being in the top 20% is way better than being in the top 97%...

You're reading correctly, I mangled that statement. Was supposed to say a slide from top 7 (or 10 or so) percent to to 33 percent.
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: SelfSovereignty on February 26, 2013, 04:03 am
Just thought I'd point out that there's another explanation for Eddie's observations: his competition moved up in rank much faster during the period in question.  I think it's very unlikely, but nobody seems to have mentioned it, and it is possible... so there it is.
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: ProfADaemon on February 26, 2013, 06:08 am
Wait, when they say top xx%, what does that mean? Is the highest grossing vendor the top 1% or the top 99%? The worst vendor is 1% or 99%? I'm confused
Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: masterblaster on February 26, 2013, 06:17 am
I think they should just scrap the percentage system and put in a system of grams to explain a vendors weight.

Title: Re: Does anyone know how the "top 6% of sellers" system works?
Post by: onetwothree on February 26, 2013, 06:21 am
Wait, when they say top xx%, what does that mean? Is the highest grossing vendor the top 1% or the top 99%? The worst vendor is 1% or 99%? I'm confused

It's not a measure of highest gross, but top 1% is better than top 10%.