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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: Redrum on February 15, 2013, 04:23 am

Title: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: Redrum on February 15, 2013, 04:23 am
Today alotta people mostly newbies had they're funds redirected to other funds. That's why some have alotta coins, they're just covering tracks, your account would've been emptied anyway. Drug hacks are actually perfect for those who do this shit so like last friday don't expect SR will be back until everyones wallet is restored. Any hackers feel free to give out some advice
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: scout on February 15, 2013, 04:26 am
No, this is not an issue of hacking.  DPR has already addressed it.  It is a glitch and they are fixing it.  The extra coins that were hitting people's wallets weren't real, so they weren't the product of "redirected funds".
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: Redrum on February 15, 2013, 04:30 am
Idk brotha checkout some underground hacker sites
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: scout on February 15, 2013, 04:33 am
The "coins" we saw moving around tonight weren't even showing up in blockchain ... they weren't real bitcoins.  If someone were redirecting funds, then by definition the things moving around would be FUNDS - not fake glitch-coins.
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: Redrum on February 15, 2013, 04:36 am
Maybe an attempt to increase market value?
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: scout on February 15, 2013, 04:38 am
Not sure why anyone would bother with that since market value for bitcoins has been increasing just fine on its own without manipulation.
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: Redrum on February 15, 2013, 04:39 am
Hopefully those who sent real coins will have em directed back in2 they're wallets. Its not all fake coins that were redirected.
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: scout on February 15, 2013, 04:40 am
Also, if someone wanted to use this to affect the market, they'd do so with real btc ... not fake coins which were the product of a code glitch.
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: Redrum on February 15, 2013, 04:43 am
Last time I checked they were what almost 30.00usdeach, that's crazy since they were like 5 bucks each when I used to buy them thank god for the most part product prices haven't risen too much.
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: Redrum on February 15, 2013, 04:54 am
Happens everyday on wall street btw fake shares
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: scout on February 15, 2013, 04:55 am
Problem has been fixed and SR is being rolled back out slowly.
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: ENBOOM on February 15, 2013, 04:58 am
How would glitch coins (non existent) affect the market. They theoretically would only exist within the database which DPR only has access to.  How would this effect the market in the slightest?
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: scout on February 15, 2013, 05:00 am
That's what I'm trying to say - it won't affect the market at all because this is an issue internal to SR.
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: rosannebar on February 15, 2013, 08:48 am
Ok here is what I am wondering.   

Say you pay a bill with money you don't actually have in your account.     When that transaction reached and was confirmed by say blockchain,  would they not at that point be mixed into the market?    Or at least affecting blockchain as well?      I'm just trying to wrap my head around it, and wondering how many people sent coins from sr wallets to other wallets?       

See what Im wondering?   Couldn't someone stay ahead of the *fake* by pushing them around?
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: scout on February 15, 2013, 08:51 am
People who attempted to send the non-existent coins to non-SR wallets couldn't - the transactions never showed on blockchain, so the issue was kept entirely within SR.  No one was able to send any out.
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: rosannebar on February 15, 2013, 08:57 am
Oh okay.  Stuff like this is way beyond my level of tech.     I wonder if it is painful to have a brain so damn smart that you understand computer coding.   

Or wait, maybe I am just really dumb? and most people can learn that stuff.             Either way,   I would try shaking the computer to fix most things.   
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: scout on February 15, 2013, 08:59 am
Shaking the computer usually does work.  :D
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: SelfSovereignty on February 15, 2013, 09:01 am
Ok here is what I am wondering.   

Say you pay a bill with money you don't actually have in your account.     When that transaction reached and was confirmed by say blockchain,  would they not at that point be mixed into the market?    Or at least affecting blockchain as well?      I'm just trying to wrap my head around it, and wondering how many people sent coins from sr wallets to other wallets?       

See what Im wondering?   Couldn't someone stay ahead of the *fake* by pushing them around?

There are two things totally independent of each other: Bitcoin, and Silk Road's internal database.  When you send coins to your account, they "bounce" off of the address you send coins to in order to deposit funds in your SR account.  By that I mean as soon as the transaction is confirmed, SR automatically sends those coins off to another address that has nothing to do with you or really anything else -- this is part of the Silk Road mixing service.

The coins in your account aren't actually yours, you've already given them to Silk Road and a Silk Road wallet owns them already.  So when you transfer coins to another SR member, you aren't actually transferring coins, you're just altering Silk Road's internal database (this is why transferring to a SR account is instant -- no coins get moved, so there's no need to wait for confirmations).

When you buy something, no transfer takes place either.  It's all Silk Road's database, and when the vendor says "give me my money," Silk Road sends the appropriate amount and subtracts it from the vendor's account.  Where those coins come from is probably more or less random.  Does that answer your question?
Title: Re: BTC Hack Attempt* NO BS
Post by: jagfug on February 15, 2013, 11:42 am
YES BS!!

DPR's thread explaining it, is all you should be on.

Starting threads like this, with Sensational Headlines like this, reveals your ignorance.

It's like turning on a bright light outside in the summer, and watching all the moths fly into it and die.

For those of you who think your brain might be better than that, here is the link to DPR's updates on the issue.

Current fix time is approximately 3 hours.

Link;

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=120741.0