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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: superduperlemonscooper on January 03, 2013, 04:14 pm
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I have a philosophical question for you guys..
Is there honor among junkies? Have you ever met a junkie who wasn't rich that you would trust with your life, your stash etc.
Just seems to me like being a junkie is a lonely world with even less trust between junkies than with 'normal' people.
I ask because I wonder if I'm the only poor druggie who has never stolen a thing from anyone ever in my life(aside from big stores, but not much and not for drugs) and would never betray anyone(even though it's happened to me so many times to the point I pretty much trust no one.
If I have no money, can't borrow money(which I DO pay back) then I will just not do drugs, simple as that no matter how much I want to. I also save money, I could buy as much drugs as I wanted to last me months, maybe even a year but I choose to be responsible.
So- am I an anomaly or no?
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I know a couple of heroin addicts who are pretty trustworthy and good people, they will steal from shops and other businesses but not from people. they also work as much as possible and do odd jobs for people.
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superduperlemonscooper, if you have the ability to make a choice not to take drugs then it seems to me that you are not really a junkie, just someone that really likes drugs.
Junkies are people with a high tendency to be impulsive and have extremely low future orientation. They certainly don't pay back borrowed money.
So if you are asking if there can be trust among genuine junkies, then the answer is definitely no. Look at how many junkies try to run scams against vendors here.
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I agree that many junkies cannot be trusted, but one of my closest friends is indeed a junkie and I do trust him with my stash and my money when I clean house. He has yet to do me wrong. I do also agree that you must not be a junkie if you have the money and are not spending it, apart of being a junkie is being addicted and addiction is a chemical requirement by your body that you cannot just simple brush off with will power. But if you have that money, you should dive in and splurge here ;D ;D ;D
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There's no such thing as a "junkie" -- it's a false word / group of people that society has chosen to associate ANYONE who uses drugs with.
What exactly is a junkie? Someone who uses a lot? How often is a lot? And of what substances?
Short answer: using drugs does not automatically make a person untrustworthy, but people that use the more addictive drugs and use them frequently tend to be the kinds of people that will stab their own mother in the back for another fix.
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There's no such thing as a "junkie" -- it's a false word / group of people that society has chosen to associate ANYONE who uses drugs with.
What exactly is a junkie? Someone who uses a lot? How often is a lot? And of what substances?
Short answer: using drugs does not automatically make a person untrustworthy, but people that use the more addictive drugs and use them frequently tend to be the kinds of people that will stab their own mother in the back for another fix.
I was assuming from the context of how he said junkie that he has meant the stereotype of those who are addicted to any substance. There are many made up words that get used in societies ;D
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Thanks for all he replies
superduperlemonscooper, if you have the ability to make a choice not to take drugs then it seems to me that you are not really a junkie, just someone that really likes drugs.
Junkies are people with a high tendency to be impulsive and have extremely low future orientation. They certainly don't pay back borrowed money.
So if you are asking if there can be trust among genuine junkies, then the answer is definitely no. Look at how many junkies try to run scams against vendors here.
I have gone through terrible sickness and extreme psychological withdrawal and could have stolen and even borrowed money or pawned stuff but I reigned myself in. I did over 10,000 in crack and h in a few months period and just quit because I couldn't look myself in the mirror wasting so much money and decided crack is just whack. I literally forced myself to look in the mirror while smoking crack and said to myself "is this what I've become? What would my mother and papa think seeing me like this?" I then looked at who I was hanging out with and where I was then quit immediately, I cried for days I felt so guilty. I still had money to burn also. Since then I've been very much more casual in my use.
Also my dealer even offered me free stuff to suck his d*ck, that was the most demeaning thing ever and I felt like trash. I left immediately and even cried
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As others have pointed out, the term junkie is somewhat dubious here. Depending on one's definition of a junkie the answer to this question could be absolutely not or yes.
In my view, I don't think a junkie is someone who can just say I am going to stop and do it. My vision of a junkie is someone who is unable to make responsible decisions any longer due to their overbearing addiction. So things like stealing from friends and family members all eventually become fair game as the spiral downward continues.
You, sir, are not a junkie. Just someone without a lot of money who enjoys drugs.
EDIT: This was directed to the OP, not the poster above me.
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Thanks for all he replies
superduperlemonscooper, if you have the ability to make a choice not to take drugs then it seems to me that you are not really a junkie, just someone that really likes drugs.
Junkies are people with a high tendency to be impulsive and have extremely low future orientation. They certainly don't pay back borrowed money.
So if you are asking if there can be trust among genuine junkies, then the answer is definitely no. Look at how many junkies try to run scams against vendors here.
I have gone through terrible sickness and extreme psychological withdrawal and could have stolen and even borrowed money or pawned stuff but I reigned myself in. I did over 10,000 in crack and h in a few months period and just quit because I couldn't look myself in the mirror wasting so much money and decided crack is just whack. I literally forced myself to look in the mirror while smoking crack and said to myself "is this what I've become? What would my mother and papa think seeing me like this?" I then looked at who I was hanging out with and where I was then quit immediately, I cried for days I felt so guilty. I still had money to burn also. Since then I've been very much more casual in my use.
Also my dealer even offered me free stuff to suck his d*ck, that was the most demeaning thing ever and I felt like trash. I left immediately and even cried
I'll give you 10BTC for anal :)
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Thanks for all he replies
superduperlemonscooper, if you have the ability to make a choice not to take drugs then it seems to me that you are not really a junkie, just someone that really likes drugs.
Junkies are people with a high tendency to be impulsive and have extremely low future orientation. They certainly don't pay back borrowed money.
So if you are asking if there can be trust among genuine junkies, then the answer is definitely no. Look at how many junkies try to run scams against vendors here.
I have gone through terrible sickness and extreme psychological withdrawal and could have stolen and even borrowed money or pawned stuff but I reigned myself in. I did over 10,000 in crack and h in a few months period and just quit because I couldn't look myself in the mirror wasting so much money and decided crack is just whack. I literally forced myself to look in the mirror while smoking crack and said to myself "is this what I've become? What would my mother and papa think seeing me like this?" I then looked at who I was hanging out with and where I was then quit immediately, I cried for days I felt so guilty. I still had money to burn also. Since then I've been very much more casual in my use.
Also my dealer even offered me free stuff to suck his d*ck, that was the most demeaning thing ever and I felt like trash. I left immediately and even cried
I'll give you 10BTC for anal :)
Ha ha, you're crazy stewie :D I dunno, I just find that dirty no matter how clean you are down there. Out of curiosity I tried it once and it just made me feel like I had to "go" even though I was "empty", not pleasurable in the least. I should cut this post short before I use too many "quotation marks"
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9 more posts till I get karma powers! :D
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9 more posts till I get karma powers! :D
I suggest using them on yourself it looks like u need some +
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I'll give you 10BTC for anal :)
Ha ha, you're crazy stewie :D I dunno, I just find that dirty no matter how clean you are down there. Out of curiosity I tried it once and it just made me feel like I had to "go" even though I was "empty", not pleasurable in the least. I should cut this post short before I use too many "quotation marks"
…….then you definitely won’t want to know what clip I saw today lol. (usually don’t watch those kinds of movies) Eventually we all do it, it’s just a natural progression. (Missionary’s soooo boring…… Mix it ^ girl!) btw, you don’t have to worry about being “clean” lol. It’s not how you might think it is……. It doesn’t get “dirty” because it only takes [edit.]. (If it got dirty we wouldn’t do it lol) Yar, if it's first time though, go slow, and shallow. If it starts to hurt, stop (don't pull it out, just stop dead). Over time, it will gently relax. If you yank it you'll feel it; just relax a bit. Select the right person too (like me for instance, who has xp). Don't get a meat-head who has zero application for being intuitive or wants to rush-rush and then fall asleep.
Bottom line...... my philosophy is, if there's something new to try I'll do it so long as I can trust them and they can keep their mouth shut. If you don't do something, sometimes you wonder about it later. But only if YOU'RE comfortable with it.
Hmmm, my posts have been explicit as of late and I think it was TrashBox’s thread that did it to me. Or the gay thing. Last week I wouldn't have touched it. I was quite innocent before those threads now look at me. :-\
Anyway……….. feeling sweepy………soooo tired…….. piece out.
As for OP question, nope, because I don’t know a lot of junkies. For obvious reasons. Hm, I guess it would depend on level of addiction and personality. Someone with no sense of morals will just take and take and take, and never be honest with you.
(lol, currently got 26 Windows tabs open while I’m browsing undies and I wonder why it’s a little slower today…….)
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I have a philosophical question for you guys..
Is there honor among junkies? Have you ever met a junkie who wasn't rich that you would trust with your life, your stash etc.
Just seems to me like being a junkie is a lonely world with even less trust between junkies than with 'normal' people.
I ask because I wonder if I'm the only poor druggie who has never stolen a thing from anyone ever in my life(aside from big stores, but not much and not for drugs) and would never betray anyone(even though it's happened to me so many times to the point I pretty much trust no one.
It really does depend heavily on how you define junkie. But there are exceptions to every rule, and not everyone will behave the same way twice: people are not perfect creatures. To look at an individual in his/her entirety, and try to reduce an entire lifetime to "trustworthy or not," isn't going to work very well even with clean, sober, and well adjusted individuals. Trustworthy today? Trustworthy next year? I know you're just asking generally, but in the end the question isn't as well defined as it seems.
It's a spectrum. As a general rule, junkies are less trustworthy because they care intensely for their drug -- it isn't some bizarre alien desire that drives drug addicts. It's exactly the same motivation that drives everybody (as you apparently know), but a junkie values their chemical of choice much more than a healthy person values almost any single thing in life. Unless integrity and honesty are as important -- or more important -- than their drug... of course they won't be trustworthy. But that can be said for anyone anywhere, if you substitute "drug" for whatever a person -- this one, that one, take your pick -- may fixate on to the detriment of other things. Infatuation, sex, money... it's all just a sliding scale of which is worth more to the person in question.
It's the same situation for everybody, junkie or not.
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Junkies are fine unless they owe me money, whine, or scam my candy without money. When a chick does this I have a simple formula to get even with the biaatch. She is given the option to suck my cock, if she refuses that I give her some bad meth to blind an eye or two, and lastly I steal her books and video games. Wazzzzzz up!
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I think a lot of people who are 'junkies' probably were before drugs got involved.
People who have no respect for anyone else; stealing/beating the elderly and doing various other crimes sometimes for no payout, and also no respect for themselves, they don't care what anybody thinks about them and what they do and this lack of self respect, I'd say , more often than not leads to drugs.
Not to say that using drugs indicates a lack of self respect.
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I have a philosophical question for you guys..
Is there honor among junkies? Have you ever met a junkie who wasn't rich that you would trust with your life, your stash etc.
Just seems to me like being a junkie is a lonely world with even less trust between junkies than with 'normal' people.
I ask because I wonder if I'm the only poor druggie who has never stolen a thing from anyone ever in my life(aside from big stores, but not much and not for drugs) and would never betray anyone(even though it's happened to me so many times to the point I pretty much trust no one.
If I have no money, can't borrow money(which I DO pay back) then I will just not do drugs, simple as that no matter how much I want to. I also save money, I could buy as much drugs as I wanted to last me months, maybe even a year but I choose to be responsible.
So- am I an anomaly or no?
What an interesting thread superduperlemonscooper... In my view of what a junkie is you are not it, sorry to say.
In my view i am not a junkie either, i just like to take drugs but i do not steal cheat lie or sell any of my possessions to get my drugs.... but in your view of what a junkie is we are both junkies lol so yes... there are other "good" junkies around...
You are not alone my friend...
The definition of a junkie according to http://www.thefreedictionary.com/junkie is...
junk·ie also junk·y Pronunciation (jngk)
n. pl. junk·ies Slang
1. A narcotics addict, especially one using heroin.
2. One who has an insatiable interest or devotion: a sports junkie.
My view of the definition of "junkie"
Someone who steals cheats lies robs ect ect "will do anything" in order to obtain/get there next hit/fix, of whatever there chosen substance maybe...
I will share a story about something that happened to me recently that in my view this person is a junkie...
My girlfriends sisters boyfriend, or should i say boyfiend...
Known him for quite a few years, my girlfriends sister and him used to come round for tea and drinks fairly often for the last few years orso..
I knew he used meth quite heavily, i also smoke meth...
So oneday i said hey you wanna get some and go halves, so we did and all was fine and then after that day i started offering him meth to buy that i purchased on sr, all was good he bought stuff a number of times and always cash upfront...
Until oneday he must have ran out of cash but feinding hard for some so he rang me up and asked for some on credit untill the next morning, so yea no worries whatever i gave him some on credit...
The next morning comes around and im waiting for a phone call for the credit to be paid but no phone call comes and same again the next day and the day after that ans so on.... Weeks go by, no contact and dont even see the guy... im thinking wow what a fucking scumbag..
About a month later i think fuck this little cunt im going to ring him or his missus phone to ask where my cash is that was ment to be paid the next morning... So i ring phone and he picks up and i say "wheres my cash cunt/"
OMG his reply was yelling through the phone "when i get home me and my boys are going to take everything you own, leave you with nothing and bury you in the back yard" im like fuck you wheres my cash cunt and he continued to hurl words like those around... I said straight up yr a funking "junkie" and he said junkie? and im like yes you fucking "junkie" bring it on and i hung up the phone...
I could not believe my girlfriends sisters boyfeind that iv known for years drunk with for years could do such a thing over a bit of meth that was worth $100... All he had to do was contact me and not make me chase my money down and all would have been fine...
But to then threaten my household and my life because he cant handle situations he gets himself into well thats what i call a fucking "junkie" i might expect that behavior from someone if i owed them ohh $1000's but def not from someone who owes me and is kinda half family....
He did not ever pay the money back but family members did, his threats were him pumping his chest out like a guerrilla with no actual backup that would be required to do such a thing..
It has been months and i have not seen him since but the first time i do he better man the fuck up cos it will be fuckin on...
That comment he made "take everything i own" i take that as my life time collection of material possessions, key word "life time"... I also take that as he came to my house and envied the stuff i own and have worked hard to get, while he wastes all his cash on drugs and has fuck all to his name....He never thought "fuck if i stop wasting my cash and life i could have everything he has" and thats so true, if he picked his sorry arse up from the trash heap he could do well in life and have all the material possessions he envies so much..
But there you go... hope you all enjoyed the story about the guy i define as a "junkie" Rip anyone, do anything for his next hit....
Even so called half family...
WOULD YOU DEFINE THIS GUY AS A JUNKIE?
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That sounds like the classic definition of a junkie, BOGAN BOB.
I have known a handful, and I hate it when they ask to borrow money. Usually they are not borrowing money directly for drugs, but the reason they needed to borrow the money in the first place was that they used money on drugs that they should have used for something else.
These days I never lend money. Either I give the money as a gift, or not at all. Saves a lot of bother later on.