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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: BruceCampbell on December 30, 2012, 01:09 am

Title: A Scanner Darkly Silk Road Comparison
Post by: BruceCampbell on December 30, 2012, 01:09 am
I've been thinking about this for awhile. Silk Road reminds me of the movie A Scanner Darkly. If nobody has seen it, it's a weird ass movie based on some Phillip K. Dick shit. Undercover drug agents, paranoia, weird drugs, maybe Robert Downey Jr...

Silk Road.

Discuss.
Title: Re: A Scanner Darkly Silk Road Comparison
Post by: nuyt on December 30, 2012, 01:44 am
I think Linklater did a decent job with his script, but I would have really loved to have seen the movie made from Charlie Kaufman's script. I felt the latter did a bit better of a job capturing some of the subtleties of Phil Dick's novel. Still though, considering it's one of the more faithful movie adaptions of Phil Dick's writing, the movie holds a special place in my heart (big Phil Dick fan here).

Anyways, that's just some random background on the film; besides the fact that they both deal with drugs, obvious connections don't really spring to mind. Though since they occurred to you, why not share what you took away from comparing the film and this site? :)
Title: Re: A Scanner Darkly Silk Road Comparison
Post by: BruceCampbell on December 30, 2012, 01:50 am
I just figured Robert Downey Jr. might be fucking around here somewhere.

And everyone here is probably a functioning paranoid schizophrenic.

And I just found myself wondering what Phillip K. Dick would think of Silk Road.

And a bunch of little things like the shape shifting undercover cops that are doing drugs and paranoia, and the futuristic sort of technological setting.

Idk. (drugs)

 :-[
Title: Re: A Scanner Darkly Silk Road Comparison
Post by: nuyt on December 30, 2012, 04:21 am
I just figured Robert Downey Jr. might be fucking around here somewhere.

And everyone here is probably a functioning paranoid schizophrenic.

And I just found myself wondering what Phillip K. Dick would think of Silk Road.

And a bunch of little things like the shape shifting undercover cops that are doing drugs and paranoia, and the futuristic sort of technological setting.

Idk. (drugs)

 :-[

man, I'd written out a lengthy reply, but had a track pad incident, and accidentally closed out tor.  :-\

Anyways, I think I was being needlessly obtuse, mainly because the book made a big impact on me when I read it in my twenties. But just thinking about the movie, I can think of one big similarity between SR and A Scanner. In A Scanner, you have narcs and LE creating an inescapable rabbit hole of paranoia and deception for the junkies of that twisted world in the form of an omnipresent surveillance system. And with the wide range of posts that can be found on these forums, some people could get the mistaken idea that there is a similarly oppressing LE or scammer presence (I'm thinking about those "it's all over" threads that get started every couple days). A Scanner is like a super dark version of what SR could be seen to be.

Tell me what you think about this, but doesn't something like A Scanner kind of mellow your hate/distrust of DEA/LE/Drug War/etc? As fucked up as things legitimately are, we'd all have to agree that things are positively peachy compared to the fucked up-ness Phil Dick explores in A Scanner, no?
Title: Re: A Scanner Darkly Silk Road Comparison
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 30, 2012, 04:31 am
I've been thinking about this for awhile. Silk Road reminds me of the movie A Scanner Darkly. If nobody has seen it, it's a weird ass movie based on some Phillip K. Dick shit. Undercover drug agents, paranoia, weird drugs, maybe Robert Downey Jr...

Silk Road.

Discuss.

I loved that movie.  Oh how I loved that movie... and yet oh how it disturbed me at the same time.  I love almost every Philip K. Dick story.  For some reason I don't care for his damn writing though...

But yeah, I totally see what you're saying.  Never really thought about it before, but I imagine especially for the vendors who end up isolated and doing little else than mailing drugs and interacting with the people here day in and day out... they have an oddly similar surreal feeling.  Or at least they do in my head.  Right now.  Having no fucking clue what I'm basing this picture in my head on.

... maybe in an hour they won't anymore, but hey, that's then.  This is now.  And right now I totally see your point  :D
Title: Re: A Scanner Darkly Silk Road Comparison
Post by: BruceCampbell on December 30, 2012, 04:39 am
I've been thinking about this for awhile. Silk Road reminds me of the movie A Scanner Darkly. If nobody has seen it, it's a weird ass movie based on some Phillip K. Dick shit. Undercover drug agents, paranoia, weird drugs, maybe Robert Downey Jr...

Silk Road.

Discuss.

I loved that movie.  Oh how I loved that movie... and yet oh how it disturbed me at the same time.  I love almost every Philip K. Dick story.  For some reason I don't care for his damn writing though...

But yeah, I totally see what you're saying.  Never really thought about it before, but I imagine especially for the vendors who end up isolated and doing little else than mailing drugs and interacting with the people here day in and day out... they have an oddly similar surreal feeling.  Or at least they do in my head.  Right now.  Having no fucking clue what I'm basing this picture in my head on.

... maybe in an hour they won't anymore, but hey, that's then.  This is now.  And right now I totally see your point  :D

I'm pretty much Keanu Reeves. In a couple of roles probably. I'm like Keanu Reeves from Bill and Ted and Scanner Darkly Keanu Reeves mixed together with a bit of Neo from the Matrix.

Man. This got existential and strange really quickly.
Title: Re: A Scanner Darkly Silk Road Comparison
Post by: docmorris on December 30, 2012, 04:44 am
I've been thinking about this for awhile. Silk Road reminds me of the movie A Scanner Darkly. If nobody has seen it, it's a weird ass movie based on some Phillip K. Dick shit. Undercover drug agents, paranoia, weird drugs, maybe Robert Downey Jr...

Silk Road.

Discuss.

I loved that movie.  Oh how I loved that movie... and yet oh how it disturbed me at the same time.  I love almost every Philip K. Dick story.  For some reason I don't care for his damn writing though...

But yeah, I totally see what you're saying.  Never really thought about it before, but I imagine especially for the vendors who end up isolated and doing little else than mailing drugs and interacting with the people here day in and day out... they have an oddly similar surreal feeling.  Or at least they do in my head.  Right now.  Having no fucking clue what I'm basing this picture in my head on.

... maybe in an hour they won't anymore, but hey, that's then.  This is now.  And right now I totally see your point  :D

+1


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