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Title: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 28, 2012, 08:16 pm
We'd like to introduce ourselves. This new vendor account, the SR Gaming Commission, is a partnership of vendors joining together to bring a collection of high-stakes, high-payout games of chance to Silk Road. With our pooled resources and bankroll, we will be able to offer better odds and better payouts on our games than any solo vendor.

This first few weeks will be a bit of a beta test as we gauge demand for what the SR community wants in gaming. We intend to offer fun games, with real competition. We currently offer three games of chance, two of which offer 10BTC payouts (but we will soon far exceed this with 100BTC and 500BTC payouts).

What's in store:
• More games, including games of skill
• 100 BTC and 500 BTC payouts on select games
• Automated payout bot for truly INSTANT payouts
• And more.

All of our games utilize the Silk Road transaction id hash in order to ensure provable randomness, fairness and instantaneous results (thanks, eddie!).
We also operate exclusively through SR escrow and in-system BTC transfer so that SR Dispute Resolution can guarantee we pay all winners.

To celebrate our grand opening, the first 5 customers in EACH game will all get one free play (one ticket price credited to users SR account).

SRGC Real Roulette - 1 in 255 Wins 10฿ Instantly | http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e2693a922c
SRGC Super Slots - Three 7s Wins 10฿ Instantly | http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/b2f389b13b
SRGC Lucky Lotto - 1 in 16 Odds to Win 2฿ Instantly | http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/6859e2fd0d

Best,

Agent Lee
Agent Wintermute
Agent Sickboy
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: t0rk on December 28, 2012, 08:56 pm
Kinda cool idea. I'll play for a little bit.

edit: yeehaawwwww winner winner chicken dinner
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: t0rk on December 28, 2012, 09:28 pm
Okay, I won 3 times (6BTC owed) I would like my money =D

When do I get it?
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 28, 2012, 09:32 pm
Hold your horses I can't even refresh the page quick enough...
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: AnonymousAddict on December 28, 2012, 09:38 pm
This sounds fun and Interesting
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BUGSY on December 28, 2012, 09:43 pm
Fuckin need texas holdem like Poker Stars. You get commision on wins.  Just like a real Casino.  MAd people will flock to that shit.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 28, 2012, 09:49 pm
t0rk i temporarily pulled that listing since you won like 20B and I'm waiting on btc confirmations send the payout.

btw i switched the lucky number to F for FUCK our luck ;)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: AnonymousAddict on December 28, 2012, 09:53 pm
t0rk i temporarily pulled that listing since you won like 20B and I'm waiting on btc confirmations send the payout.

btw i switched the lucky number to F for FUCK our luck ;)

Damn guys u came on here and listed games to play and win and didnt even have the payout on hand? Let me know when the payout money comes and i'll come play..
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BUGSY on December 28, 2012, 09:57 pm
What happen casino already closed? Just a suggestion maybe SR should take over operations they have the money.  Just suggesting that. 
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 28, 2012, 09:59 pm
t0rk i temporarily pulled that listing since you won like 20B and I'm waiting on btc confirmations send the payout.

btw i switched the lucky number to F for FUCK our luck ;)

Damn guys u came on here and listed games to play and win and didnt even have the payout on hand? Let me know when the payout money comes and i'll come play..

We certainly do have it on hand but only a couple BTC had reached the SR account. The rest were/are waiting for confirmations on the blockchain. (In our defense, this post just went live a few minutes ago).

Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: thedopestjunkie on December 28, 2012, 10:01 pm
I second the Texas Hold Em....cant wait to try roulette though. :) good idea.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: t0rk on December 28, 2012, 10:06 pm
SR Gaming Commission has been very professional with me so far with my winnings.
I have not received any coin yet but we are waiting on an xfer.
In their defense they did state this is BETA and they're brand new.

I will return in a few hours and report with an update.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: AnonymousAddict on December 28, 2012, 10:09 pm
Sweet! Sounds like its gonna make the road that much better.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: CrazyBart on December 28, 2012, 10:15 pm
damnnn  SRGC already lost 20btc within minutes of opening. Sucks to suck. Keep us updaed T0rk
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: nomad bloodbath on December 28, 2012, 10:20 pm
So this is what the gang has been up to.

X)
nomad
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Moon Fried on December 28, 2012, 10:26 pm
Tempting, but I know later I'm going to somehow end up short on BTC. :P
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 28, 2012, 10:27 pm
OK, all outstanding payouts paid.
Coffers stocked and listing back up.

Really guys, a 45 min delay and you're riding me like this? :P

Still got 4 free plays available on the Super Slots and 4 available on the Real Roulette.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: catfishinmysocks on December 28, 2012, 10:28 pm
Silk Road - All addictions serviced
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: CrazyBart on December 28, 2012, 10:41 pm
OK, all outstanding payouts paid.
Coffers stocked and listing back up.

Really guys, a 45 min delay and you're riding me like this? :P

Still got 4 free plays available on the Super Slots and 4 available on the Real Roulette.

Just giving you guys some shit. im sure this is going to be very succesful for you and a lucky few of us. If the site would load up id be playing as well
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Krime Pays on December 29, 2012, 01:18 am
I love gambling this sounds great I hope it works out well and of course its a fair game!
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: astor on December 29, 2012, 01:20 am
Pretty cheap buy in. I might give this a shot. :)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: geeza23 on December 29, 2012, 01:24 am
hahah wow sounds interesting, looking forward to it!
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: RxKing on December 29, 2012, 01:24 am
This is going to end so badly...you have to be a complete moron to play this..luckily there are plenty on here.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: CrazyBart on December 29, 2012, 01:28 am
This is going to end so badly...you have to be a complete moron to play this..luckily there are plenty on here.

Why do you say that. Not bashing, just genuinely curious what flaws you see?
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: astor on December 29, 2012, 01:36 am
Meh, it's a couple bucks to play. Obviously don't spend all your money, and if you can't handle these kinds of games, don't play.

I wonder if a time stamp is included in the transaction hash. If it is, submitting multiple plays at once will lower the randomness.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 29, 2012, 01:38 am
Agent Wintermute

A chance to outsmart an unshackled AI?  Oooo... I'll have to take a peek.   8)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 29, 2012, 01:41 am
Wow, tough day at the Gaming Commission.

Big winner:
65f54a7677    SRGC Super Slots    yimmy

10BTC paid.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: chil on December 29, 2012, 01:41 am
 I just won 2BTC !
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: t0rk on December 29, 2012, 01:43 am
Update:

They have paid me my earnings! Just got home from shopping.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: y1mmy on December 29, 2012, 01:55 am
So after buying on the road for a year now suppose it's time to make my first forum post to let everyone know my experience with the sr gaming commission:

I saw this thread and thought what the hell had since change leftover why not try my luck? Played the bingo and lost but was credited for a free play so I switched and tried the roulette and sure enough three 7's! I received a message within minutes congratulating me and saying my 10 coins were in their way and within 5 or so minutes my account wad credited.

So time for me to go shopping.  ;D
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 29, 2012, 01:56 am
The 7s game has approximate odds that are... way, way off.  10 hexadecimal digits means 16 possibilities per digit.  That's 16^10 = 1.09 x 10^12 possibilities.

Of those, the possible combinations of wins are... well I can't remember how to calculate that :'(  But there are 10 digits, need three 7s... so that's what, 10 choose 3 (nCr)?

How exactly did you calculate an approximate 1 in 40 chance of winning...?
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: t0rk on December 29, 2012, 02:06 am
So this is what I bought with my winnings...

http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/upload/8363cc4bcbc24c7436db5fca13b0783a.jpg

edit: the game was "  SRGC Lucky Lotto: 1 in 16 Odds to Win 2฿ Instantly  "
 However the rules have changed when I won ( 4 times ) the rules were last digit to be a 5 which has now been changed to a 7. I looked over all of my previous purchases and none of them have an ending in 7.
 Just trying to fair with everyone. I won with 5's not the current number 7...
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 29, 2012, 02:12 am
The 7s game has approximate odds that are... way, way off.  10 hexadecimal digits means 16 possibilities per digit.  That's 16^10 = 1.09 x 10^12 possibilities.

Of those, the possible combinations of wins are... well I can't remember how to calculate that :'(  But there are 10 digits, need three 7s... so that's what, 10 choose 3 (nCr)?

How exactly did you calculate an approximate 1 in 40 chance of winning...?

When in doubt, defer to the experts [clearweb]:
http://www.quora.com/Probability/What-is-the-probability-that-a-random-10-digit-hex-number-will-have-at-least-3-bs
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 29, 2012, 02:18 am
The 7s game has approximate odds that are... way, way off.  10 hexadecimal digits means 16 possibilities per digit.  That's 16^10 = 1.09 x 10^12 possibilities.

Of those, the possible combinations of wins are... well I can't remember how to calculate that :'(  But there are 10 digits, need three 7s... so that's what, 10 choose 3 (nCr)?

How exactly did you calculate an approximate 1 in 40 chance of winning...?

When in doubt, defer to the experts [clearweb]:
http://www.quora.com/Probability/What-is-the-probability-that-a-random-10-digit-hex-number-will-have-at-least-3-bs

Hm... yeah, I'll buy that without calculating the odds.  Been too long and I'm too lazy.  Still, that's a 2.1% chance of winning, so that's 1 in 50 basically... a lot closer than I was suggesting though, I'll give you that :)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: astor on December 29, 2012, 02:23 am
So after buying on the road for a year now suppose it's time to make my first forum post

A likely story. Shit like this, shill accounts magically appearing, makes me more weary. :/
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: jacklinks on December 29, 2012, 02:25 am
what are the skill games going to be?
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BUGSY on December 29, 2012, 02:29 am
I hate people that bet and lose and make excuses. If you a bad loser don't play.  If you play in Vegas you lose the same way. Odds are always in favor of CASINO. (THIS IS LEGIT)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 29, 2012, 02:31 am
what are the skill games going to be?

Sickboy is working on that. Hopefully next week we'll have one up. I understand it'll be something poker-ish(?)

No shills, astor. We've paid out six wins so far. The winners names are listed in each game listing. PM them on the market to ask them yourselves.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 29, 2012, 02:33 am
Fascinating: of the six transactions I have access to, none have a single 7 in them.  The odds of that are... 16^10 possibles with 7s included, and 15^10 possibles with no 7s included.  So that's what, 15^10 / 16^10 = 0.52 chance of having no 7s per transaction.  0.52^6 (six transactions, each with a .52 chance of happening, so the chance they all happen is 0.52 to the sixth power, right?)

... did I get that right, or did I fuck it up?  Well assuming I'm right, there's a 2% chance that given six uniformly random 10 digit hex strings, they'd all have no 7s.  Sorry to poke holes in your game (and to be clear I'm only talking about the 7s), but something tells me that because of the algorithm generating these transaction IDs, it's a lot less likely than 1 in 50 somebody's gonna win.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: astor on December 29, 2012, 02:39 am
Well assuming I'm right, there's a 2% chance that given six uniformly random 10 digit hex strings, they'd all have no 7s.

But they're not uniformly random, unless the transaction ID is pulled from /dev/urandom. I mentioned this earlier in the thread. Presumably the transaction hash is calculated from the item ID and a date-time stamp, and maybe other things, like your user ID. But your user ID and the item ID remain the same, so if you submit a bunch of transactions around the same date and time, you reduce the randomness.

Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 29, 2012, 02:44 am
Well assuming I'm right, there's a 2% chance that given six uniformly random 10 digit hex strings, they'd all have no 7s.

But they're not uniformly random, unless the transaction ID is pulled from /dev/urandom. I mentioned this earlier in the thread. Presumably the transaction hash is calculated from the item ID and a date-time stamp, and maybe other things, like your user ID. But your user ID and the item ID remain the same, so if you submit a bunch of transactions around the same date and time, you reduce the randomness.

Oh, I agree completely.  That's what I was getting at -- either by some odd chance all the transactions on my account history have no 7s and it really is fair (seems unlikely, since the chances of what I'm seeing are only 2%)... or it's incredibly unfair for precisely the reason you're saying so.  I was just playing with the numbers out of curiosity :)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: y1mmy on December 29, 2012, 02:49 am
So after buying on the road for a year now suppose it's time to make my first forum post

A likely story. Shit like this, shill accounts magically appearing, makes me more weary. :/

No shill account, just never had a reason to post before. Believe it or not this is the first time I've won the lottery.  ;)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 29, 2012, 02:53 am
The hash (since it's a hash function) actually is (essentially) random (in the distribution of the output values).

As was discussed here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=93180.msg682341#msg682341

Using the output of a hash function for these purposes is equivalent to using a pseudo-random number generator.

If that's not the case in your sample set SS, I think that's more indicative of the size of your set than the distribution of the values.

Variances will occur. We shouldn't be down over 30BTC in the first few hours, but we are. However as the game continues we should approach the limit of the house edge.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: t0rk on December 29, 2012, 03:03 am
I'm turning into a loser very fast...
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: astor on December 29, 2012, 03:03 am
Oh, I agree completely.  That's what I was getting at -- either by some odd chance all the transactions on my account history have no 7s and it really is fair (seems unlikely, since the chances of what I'm seeing are only 2%)... or it's incredibly unfair for precisely the reason you're saying so.  I was just playing with the numbers out of curiosity :)

Gotcha.

Yeah, if the transaction ID isn't truly pseudo-random, that's bad, because some accounts will always underperform, because they will contribute to hashes that tend not to have 7s. Then again, some accounts will overperform, which means theoretically you could game the system. After all, new buyer accounts are free. :)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: astor on December 29, 2012, 03:06 am
Using the output of a hash function for these purposes is equivalent to using a pseudo-random number generator.

If that's not the case in your sample set SS, I think that's more indicative of the size of your set than the distribution of the values.

So I'll have to play a thousand times to confirm this. :)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 29, 2012, 03:20 am
Using the output of a hash function for these purposes is equivalent to using a pseudo-random number generator.

If that's not the case in your sample set SS, I think that's more indicative of the size of your set than the distribution of the values.

So I'll have to play a thousand times to confirm this. :)

SS, astor, we really are aiming for fairness. I agree with your math, SS, that there is approx 2% chance of having no 7s in six tx ids. However I think that was just chance.
I have a long list of tx ids with every number seemingly represented.

If you want I can attach the last 50 or 100 transaction ids. By all means subject them to a statistical analysis. You can even ask some people who have played to identify whether one of their ids is in the list.

No scams here. The nature of gambling doesn't require scams -- we have a house edge. It would be supremely wasteful to spend 500 USD on a vendor account just to ruin it by scamming for 2$ orders.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: t0rk on December 29, 2012, 03:26 am
Spend like 60$ won once. so I am like -$35

Overall I won $120 today however I think there is something with my account generating more 5's at the end than 7's

Going to play tomorrow.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 29, 2012, 03:29 am
This thread is not discussing Silk Road. This thread is offering a product, namely the ability to gamble.

Please lock this thread and post it again in the appropriate sub-forum(product offers).
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: miraex on December 29, 2012, 03:34 am
I just WON  ;D
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: astor on December 29, 2012, 03:37 am
SS, astor, we really are aiming for fairness. I agree with your math, SS, that there is approx 2% chance of having no 7s in six tx ids. However I think that was just chance.

He's technically right about that. We assume that random means a uniform but unpredictable distribution of all outcomes, but that's often a clear signature of nonrandomness. Randomness involves bunching of values/outcomes. Read this:

http://www.empiricalzeal.com/2012/12/21/what-does-randomness-look-like/

I agree that six plays isn't enough to make a firm conclusion, which is why I joked about playing a thousand times.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 29, 2012, 03:38 am
SS, astor, we really are aiming for fairness. I agree with your math, SS, that there is approx 2% chance of having no 7s in six tx ids. However I think that was just chance.

He's technically right about that. We assume that random means a uniform but unpredictable distribution of all outcomes, but that's often a clear signature of nonrandomness. Randomness involves bunching of values/outcomes. Read this:

http://www.empiricalzeal.com/2012/12/21/what-does-randomness-look-like/

I agree that six plays isn't enough to make a firm conclusion, which is why I joked about playing a thousand times.

Agreed.

... no more bumping, I pwomise!   :-X
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: miraex on December 29, 2012, 04:19 am
did it as a joke while I was on mXe.... ended up winning and just sat there in confusion  while the BTC was sent to my account.. !!! haha legit and fun
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BUGSY on December 29, 2012, 04:36 am
Promote sport bets.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: kitkat82 on December 29, 2012, 04:42 am
Such a great idea!
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: redfunguy on December 29, 2012, 05:23 am
Bookmarked.  Going to buy some coins next week just to play this.  Now I don't even have to drive to the casino to gamble and I can trade my winnings (or what I managed to have left after yanking myself away from gambling) for fucking druuuugs!  Lol.  Great idea, this will be a lot of fun!
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: chil on December 29, 2012, 02:34 pm
My golden rule of casino playing is:  "never spend more than half of your winnings to make it worthwhile." Never spend all your winnings if you don't want to feel frustrated. For instance, I won something like 27 dollars yesterday, invested 12 in bets, lost them and kept the rest to buy 100mg of 2CB. Happy with that.   
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: DenoyerGeppert on December 29, 2012, 03:00 pm
I played earlier today and won 4BTC. Was in my account within 5 mins.

Pretty cool.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 29, 2012, 03:26 pm
Just to be clear with everyone, we make immediate payoffs as long as we're logged in to SR (which is most of the day). But it may take up to a few hours if we're sleeping or otherwise occupied.

Ultimately we'd like to have a bot to handle payouts. We're looking into that, but it's super dangerous and we need to do more than a fair bit of testing before we put one into place, lest we flash crash the SRGC.

Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: WinterMoon on December 29, 2012, 03:41 pm
Just to be clear with everyone, we make immediate payoffs as long as we're logged in to SR (which is most of the day). But it may take up to a few hours if we're sleeping or otherwise occupied.

Ultimately we'd like to have a bot to handle payouts. We're looking into that, but it's super dangerous and we need to do more than a fair bit of testing before we put one into place, lest we flash crash the SRGC.

Well there's the last puzzle piece for me, high five to the vendors who put this together. OMG! They have 99¢ games!  What a great place to spend loose change +1
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 29, 2012, 06:29 pm
Just to be clear with everyone, we make immediate payoffs as long as we're logged in to SR (which is most of the day). But it may take up to a few hours if we're sleeping or otherwise occupied.

Ultimately we'd like to have a bot to handle payouts. We're looking into that, but it's super dangerous and we need to do more than a fair bit of testing before we put one into place, lest we flash crash the SRGC.

You sound competent enough yourself, but if you're serious, I could probably take care of that for you without any trouble.  For like 0.2% of whatever you get or something.  Just pointing out that it's what I do if you aren't familiar enough or don't have the time yourself, that's all  :)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Noopept on December 30, 2012, 02:22 am
I think the odds on most of these are generally insulting.  There is no need for you to tip the scales in your favor so hard. 

My similar game has odds that are so much better.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/712a5bb0d5
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 30, 2012, 02:33 am
I think the odds on most of these are generally insulting.  There is no need for you to tip the scales in your favor so hard. 

My similar game has odds that are so much better.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/712a5bb0d5
Is that like how the "great way to buy bitcoins" listing you have is just a link to a vendor's account, and not even your own work?
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Noopept on December 30, 2012, 03:18 am
You mean my listing that provides everything it promises?  A way to buy BTC for under 4%?  Anyways I have discontinued that listing as it was a limited time thing.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 30, 2012, 03:29 am
You mean my listing that provides everything it promises?  A way to buy BTC for under 4%?  Anyways I have discontinued that listing as it was a limited time thing.
That's like an EBay listing that promises a picture of a cellphone, and costs $100. It delivers everything it promises... that doesn't make it honest. Selling a link to a vendor's profile, really?

Personally, I don't think you deserve to keep your vendor-status given the bullshit you pulled with that. Scamming is scamming, even if it's just for a dollar or two.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Noopept on December 30, 2012, 03:47 am
Exactly how does that analogy make any sense? The listing delivered everything it promised.  A way to get BTC for under 4%.  You act as if for $1 you would be able to get some info that wasn't available somewhere else?  People pay for info all the time in the real world.

It's odd if it was such a scam how nearly everybody who bought it was more than pleased.  Sounds really congruent with a scam.

A year ago when I was on SR I would of loved to come across this listing.  Pay 1$ to save the hundreds I was paying at 10% to get btc.  Sure the info is available elsewhere but why would you buy it if you knew a better way already?



Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: astor on December 30, 2012, 03:47 am
That's like an EBay listing that promises a picture of a cellphone, and costs $100. It delivers everything it promises... that doesn't make it honest. Selling a link to a vendor's profile, really?

There was a guy selling game console boxes on eBay for like $100. People who didn't read the listing carefully thought it was a steal... until they received an empty box. :)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 30, 2012, 04:07 am
hey now go start your own thread noopept and stop polluting mine.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Noopept on December 30, 2012, 04:17 am
How do you justify giving me only 50% ROI?  That's like worse than scratch off odds lol.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 30, 2012, 04:35 am
How do you justify giving me only 50% ROI?  That's like worse than scratch off odds lol.
How do you justify selling a link? That's like worse than selling freeware lol.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Noopept on December 30, 2012, 05:12 am
By most people buying it rating 5/5 and saying thanks and offering a full refund to those who don't find it helpful. 
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 30, 2012, 05:16 am
By most people buying it rating 5/5 and saying thanks and offering a full refund to those who don't find it helpful.
"Give a refund to those who don't like being lied to, take the money from those who don't care enough to cause a stink."

Gotcha, I understand your morals now. :)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Noopept on December 30, 2012, 05:25 am
No, just everyone isn't an uptight douche like you who has nothing to do but sit on a forum all day and argue semantics over a dollar.  Did you ever learn what quotation marks are used for.  A quote.  That was not a quote as no one said that and you didn't properly cite it.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 30, 2012, 05:32 am
No, just everyone isn't an uptight douche like you who has nothing to do but sit on a forum all day and argue semantics over a dollar.  Did you ever learn what quotation marks are used for.  A quote.  That was not a quote as no one said that and you didn't properly cite it.
I'm already using quote tags, so clearly I wasn't quoting you. ... I'm not actually sure how you missed that, to be honest. I mean, the quote was right above. Am I really an uptight douche? Maybe the problem is you. :)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: RxKing on December 30, 2012, 05:33 am
There are plenty of ways to get BTC for no fee's what so ever.

 ;D
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 30, 2012, 05:39 am
There are plenty of ways to get BTC for no fee's what so ever.

 ;D
I've got a few friends who have figured that one out. ;)

Though... there is a one-time fee. But after that, it doesn't matter if it is $1 or $1M!

Maybe I should be charging people for that advice. Just pay me $1 and I'll tell you or anyone how to open a vendor account. :D
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: redfunguy on December 31, 2012, 01:29 am
So what are all of you saying?  If I open a vendor account I can get BTC's for 4% fee or are you saying if I sell shit on SR I can get BTC's and pay SR a 4% cut of my sales?
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Noopept on December 31, 2012, 01:41 am
This guy got 172 transactions in the first 36 hours of taking orders and 0 in the last 12 hours.  Almost like he was padding his stats.

Oh look!  Almost every single one of his feedbacks says Leave feedback here.  Including well over 60 in a row at one point.  Crazy not one person in 60 orders decided to change the default feedback option to anything. 
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: pinus on December 31, 2012, 01:54 am
This guy got 172 transactions in the first 36 hours of taking orders and 0 in the last 12 hours.  Almost like he was padding his stats.

Pleas go sall som mor $1 advice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAFr83qlcqc
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Noopept on December 31, 2012, 02:10 am
So what are all of you saying?  If I open a vendor account I can get BTC's for 4% fee or are you saying if I sell shit on SR I can get BTC's and pay SR a 4% cut of my sales?

I was selling Info on how to get btc from a vendor on SR for less than 4%.  The vendor was in stealth so without someone directly telling you, you couldn't see his listing.  A few people who sit on the forums all day got really butthurt about this even though only 7 people bought the just 1 dollar listing.  The vendor eventually unstealthed so I removed the listing.  Oh also everyone who bought the listing gave me 5/5 feedback.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 31, 2012, 02:25 am
So what are all of you saying?  If I open a vendor account I can get BTC's for 4% fee or are you saying if I sell shit on SR I can get BTC's and pay SR a 4% cut of my sales?

I was selling Info on how to get btc from a vendor on SR for less than 4%.  The vendor was in stealth so without someone directly telling you, you couldn't see his listing.  A few people who sit on the forums all day got really butthurt about this even though only 7 people bought the just 1 dollar listing.  The vendor eventually unstealthed so I removed the listing.  Oh also everyone who bought the listing gave me 5/5 feedback.
After you harassed them, yes.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Noopept on December 31, 2012, 02:33 am
Sending a message saying.  I was wondering why you were unsatisfied with my listing, then one saying hello? then a third saying I can offer you a full refund is you were unsatisfied.

Really harassment.  I don't understand why you have made it your personal mission to try to harass me everywhere I go on the forums.  I'm sorry you didn't like my listing.  I thought it was a decent idea.  I have literally removed it due to your harassment.  Can you stop now? For christ sakes get a life. 
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: astor on December 31, 2012, 02:41 am
Maybe I should be charging people for that advice. Just pay me $1 and I'll tell you or anyone how to open a vendor account. :D

In that case, the problem is merely reversed. The real winners are the exchanges / exchangers who charge twice for the same coins. :)
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Noopept on December 31, 2012, 02:56 am
So what are all of you saying?  If I open a vendor account I can get BTC's for 4% fee or are you saying if I sell shit on SR I can get BTC's and pay SR a 4% cut of my sales?

I was selling Info on how to get btc from a vendor on SR for less than 4%.  The vendor was in stealth so without someone directly telling you, you couldn't see his listing.  A few people who sit on the forums all day got really butthurt about this even though only 7 people bought the just 1 dollar listing.  The vendor eventually unstealthed so I removed the listing.  Oh also everyone who bought the listing gave me 5/5 feedback.
After you harassed them, yes.

Hey since you seem to feel so passionately about stopping scammers why don't you look into my claims that the OP is a vendor.  Isn't a little odd what I pointed out in a previous post?
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 31, 2012, 03:03 am
So what are all of you saying?  If I open a vendor account I can get BTC's for 4% fee or are you saying if I sell shit on SR I can get BTC's and pay SR a 4% cut of my sales?

I was selling Info on how to get btc from a vendor on SR for less than 4%.  The vendor was in stealth so without someone directly telling you, you couldn't see his listing.  A few people who sit on the forums all day got really butthurt about this even though only 7 people bought the just 1 dollar listing.  The vendor eventually unstealthed so I removed the listing.  Oh also everyone who bought the listing gave me 5/5 feedback.
After you harassed them, yes.

Hey since you seem to feel so passionately about stopping scammers why don't you look into my claims that the OP is a vendor.  Isn't a little odd what I pointed out in a previous post?
OP definitely has a vendor account. I guess that would make your claims accurate, yes? If you mean to say that OP has two vendor accounts, then there is no way to look into that from where I'm sitting, because the only things I can look into is the publicly available information.

I never looked into anything, noopept. CrazyBart revealed what you were selling, then he posted in the same thread to say he got 4 messages in 12 hours from you, and that the number of messages was the reason he changed his feedback. I'm just keeping that knowledge at the fore-front of our interactions, that's all. CrazyBart, by his own words, changed the feedback because of your messages, and not in a good way.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 31, 2012, 03:08 am
This guy got 172 transactions in the first 36 hours of taking orders and 0 in the last 12 hours.  Almost like he was padding his stats.

Oh look!  Almost every single one of his feedbacks says Leave feedback here.  Including well over 60 in a row at one point.  Crazy not one person in 60 orders decided to change the default feedback option to anything.

Are you talking about us?

You, noopept, who put up a gambling game to compete with eddie's and then couldn't pay your winners?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=93180.msg682354#msg682354

You, noopept, who sold a SCAM listing, "SR Secrets: How to get BTC for 4% max" that was nothing more than a LINK TO AN ACTIVE SR VENDOR YOU AREN'T EVEN AFFILIATED WITH:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95981.msg688315#msg688315

You, noopept, who has feedback on your profile RIGHT NOW that says you didn't pay a customer his $45 winnings:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/6263397481

And now you're operating... what? A poorly explained sports book with no way to guarantee payouts and no evidence you have any money to pay to winners anyway.

We have sold over 60 items in the past 36 hours.

Please leave Silk Road and do not come back. This is a place of business for grown ups. It's not for your third-hand teenage get rich quick schemes.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Noopept on December 31, 2012, 03:18 am
My inability to pay a few people in a timely manner because someone bet 100x ($1000) the max bet in my listing and I had the balls to pay him even though I'm such a scammer and in the listing it said I reserved the right to cancel the order.  I could of just took the money and ran right?  Anyways how does that negate the fact that you have over 60 transactions on the same listing in a row with the same feedback.  No one in 60 people bothered to change the feedback? 

How did you manage to do the same amount of business on your new account eddie in the first 24 hours as you did in weeks on your other account? 
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 31, 2012, 03:21 am
My inability to pay a few people in a timely manner because someone bet 100x ($1000) the max bet in my listing and I had the balls to pay him even though I'm such a scammer and in the listing it said I reserved the right to cancel the order.  I could of just took the money and ran right?  Anyways how does that negate the fact that you have over 60 transactions on the same listing in a row with the same feedback.  No one in 60 people bothered to change the feedback? 

How did you manage to do the same amount of business on your new account eddie in the first 24 hours as you did in weeks on your other account?
I bet thrice with the Gaming Commission and I got bored of changing the feedback by the third time. Fuck knows if I was going to buy 60 tickets one-by-one, I wouldn't be fucking with the feedback.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Stonedstupor on December 31, 2012, 03:27 am
This guy got 172 transactions in the first 36 hours of taking orders and 0 in the last 12 hours.  Almost like he was padding his stats.

Oh look!  Almost every single one of his feedbacks says Leave feedback here.  Including well over 60 in a row at one point.  Crazy not one person in 60 orders decided to change the default feedback option to anything.

Are you talking about us?

You, noopept, who put up a gambling game to compete with eddie's and then couldn't pay your winners?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=93180.msg682354#msg682354

You, noopept, who sold a SCAM listing, "SR Secrets: How to get BTC for 4% max" that was nothing more than a LINK TO AN ACTIVE SR VENDOR YOU AREN'T EVEN AFFILIATED WITH:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95981.msg688315#msg688315

You, noopept, who has feedback on your profile RIGHT NOW that says you didn't pay a customer his $45 winnings:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/6263397481

And now you're operating... what? A poorly explained sports book with no way to guarantee payouts and no evidence you have any money to pay to winners anyway.

We have sold over 60 items in the past 36 hours.

Please leave Silk Road and do not come back. This is a place of business for grown ups. It's not for your third-hand teenage get rich quick schemes.

Dont tell him to leave man! I wont ever get my $45 haha
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 31, 2012, 03:31 am
This guy got 172 transactions in the first 36 hours of taking orders and 0 in the last 12 hours.  Almost like he was padding his stats.

Oh look!  Almost every single one of his feedbacks says Leave feedback here.  Including well over 60 in a row at one point.  Crazy not one person in 60 orders decided to change the default feedback option to anything.

Are you talking about us?

You, noopept, who put up a gambling game to compete with eddie's and then couldn't pay your winners?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=93180.msg682354#msg682354

You, noopept, who sold a SCAM listing, "SR Secrets: How to get BTC for 4% max" that was nothing more than a LINK TO AN ACTIVE SR VENDOR YOU AREN'T EVEN AFFILIATED WITH:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=95981.msg688315#msg688315

You, noopept, who has feedback on your profile RIGHT NOW that says you didn't pay a customer his $45 winnings:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/6263397481

And now you're operating... what? A poorly explained sports book with no way to guarantee payouts and no evidence you have any money to pay to winners anyway.

We have sold over 60 items in the past 36 hours.

Please leave Silk Road and do not come back. This is a place of business for grown ups. It's not for your third-hand teenage get rich quick schemes.

Dont tell him to leave man! I wont ever get my $45 haha
Don't give him anymore better than a 1/5 until you get your $45, man.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: SR Gaming Commission on December 31, 2012, 03:33 am
Quote
Hello everyone I'm Noopept, a vendor that specializes in gambling and lottery listings.

Who does not have $45 in his vendor account?

SRGC keeps no less than 30BTC in the account for payoffs AT ALL TIMES. Why? Because we'd be assholes if we didn't.
Title: Re: The SR Gaming Commission
Post by: Stonedstupor on December 31, 2012, 03:51 am
I see who i'll be betting with next time. i mean cummon 45 bucks.. supposedly its cuz everyone who loses keeps their losing transaction in escrow. But seems like people wouldn't fuck up their auto-finilazation rates over a 1.19 listing.