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Title: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: JakkTheKipper on December 13, 2012, 12:08 am
500 - Internal Server Error messages keep popping up randomly when switching pages in the market. Noticed a few yesterday but they are rising in number now.

Is downtime coming or is there something wrong at my end?

I'd like to shop : (
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 13, 2012, 12:16 am
It means the server is too taxed and had to bail on your request for the page, basically.  As in it tried to service everything that was asked for at that point in time, but it had to give up on some because it just didn't have enough memory to hold all the requests at once.

That's the basic problem, even if the reality is a little more complicated :)
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: GlassHouse on December 13, 2012, 12:18 am
Been having the same problem.  Spoke with SR support and they are aware of the issue and working to correct it
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: Zta0341 on December 13, 2012, 12:24 am
Odds are the site will be down again for a min, unless its something they can fix with the traffic. But I dont know, I'm not that tech savy. Just keep in mind that if you do come on tomorrow or when ever and the site is down dont freak out and start throwing all those crazy conspiracy theories. Not saying anyone of you here has done it, its just a common occurrence every time the site goes down. But yes I'm sure a lot of us are getting the same error every now and then and Ive notice today and especially more so tonight the site is running extremely slow as well. I dont get it, cant they just buy a bigger server? How does that all work anyways? In simple minded terms please. Lol
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: Funbagz on December 13, 2012, 12:32 am
500 - Internal Server Error messages keep popping up randomly when switching pages in the market. Noticed a few yesterday but they are rising in number now.

Is downtime coming or is there something wrong at my end?

I'd like to shop : (

was gonna start this topic, glad i hit Refresh first.
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 13, 2012, 12:48 am
Odds are the site will be down again for a min, unless its something they can fix with the traffic. But I dont know, I'm not that tech savy. Just keep in mind that if you do come on tomorrow or when ever and the site is down dont freak out and start throwing all those crazy conspiracy theories. Not saying anyone of you here has done it, its just a common occurrence every time the site goes down. But yes I'm sure a lot of us are getting the same error every now and then and Ive notice today and especially more so tonight the site is running extremely slow as well. I dont get it, cant they just buy a bigger server? How does that all work anyways? In simple minded terms please. Lol

I like to think I'm good at explaining stuff simply, so let's find out shall we  :)

Don't forget, this is the Tor network we're talking about.  That means that you're connecting to... I think it's 3 computers on the way to SR, then you finally hit SR.  It may be more or less, I'm not sure, but the basic point remains the same: the slowest connection between you and SR is basically the speed at which your connection to the site will run at.  If one of those links between you and SR is bogged down, your connection to SR will be bogged down no matter how fast the server is.

The 500 error, though, is from the SR server itself.  If you can't connect at all, it's probably just a link along the way or the Tor network trying to find a route to SR but not being able to yet.  That's why getting a "new identity" can help -- because it forces Tor to switch it's path to the server (which makes it look like you're somebody different than you just were).
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: Zta0341 on December 13, 2012, 01:00 am
Odds are the site will be down again for a min, unless its something they can fix with the traffic. But I dont know, I'm not that tech savy. Just keep in mind that if you do come on tomorrow or when ever and the site is down dont freak out and start throwing all those crazy conspiracy theories. Not saying anyone of you here has done it, its just a common occurrence every time the site goes down. But yes I'm sure a lot of us are getting the same error every now and then and Ive notice today and especially more so tonight the site is running extremely slow as well. I dont get it, cant they just buy a bigger server? How does that all work anyways? In simple minded terms please. Lol

I like to think I'm good at explaining stuff simply, so let's find out shall we  :)

Don't forget, this is the Tor network we're talking about.  That means that you're connecting to... I think it's 3 computers on the way to SR, then you finally hit SR.  It may be more or less, I'm not sure, but the basic point remains the same: the slowest connection between you and SR is basically the speed at which your connection to the site will run at.  If one of those links between you and SR is bogged down, your connection to SR will be bogged down no matter how fast the server is.

The 500 error, though, is from the SR server itself.  If you can't connect at all, it's probably just a link along the way or the Tor network trying to find a route to SR but not being able to yet.  That's why getting a "new identity" can help -- because it forces Tor to switch it's path to the server (which makes it look like you're somebody different than you just were).

Okay so relatively speaking getting a new server may help with the fact that the 500 error wont come up anymore but being able to browse the site faster remains to be seen because your not running strictly off of the SR server there are other computer connections along the way? And if one of those connections is slow, your going to be slow? So in order for SR to be as fast as say an average clearnet computer browser, all the servers that make up the TOR network would all have to be top notch as well?  If this is correct than you sir did a wonderful job at explaining things for this major burnout/stoner.
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 13, 2012, 01:14 am
You got it exactly, my man :)
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: Zta0341 on December 13, 2012, 01:26 am
You got it exactly, my man :)

Right on thanks buddy! I'm gonna refer to you as Mister Miagi from now on, that bother you? You can call me like daniel son, or young grasshopper or some shit like that if that makes it okay. Lol
But no seriously thank you for taking the time to explain that to me, I had always wondered why it wasnt as simple as just getting a better server. And everyone would use big words and i'd just stop reading.

Z
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 13, 2012, 01:43 am
You got it exactly, my man :)

Right on thanks buddy! I'm gonna refer to you as Mister Miagi from now on, that bother you? You can call me like daniel son, or young grasshopper or some shit like that if that makes it okay. Lol
But no seriously thank you for taking the time to explain that to me, I had always wondered why it wasnt as simple as just getting a better server. And everyone would use big words and i'd just stop reading.

Z

Hai!  Wakarimashita, Z-chan!  :P

To be serious though, yeah... I, really just don't know why it's so common for people to explain things in ways that basically only people who already understand the problem can really follow.  I think a lot of it is that being able to teach is really a skill in itself that most people don't seem very good at.  I think the rest is just people who want recognition for being smart, so they... ya know... try to sound smart.  Which is cool and all, everybody wants to be recognized for their achievements, but it sure doesn't help if you're explaining something.

Happy to help.  I like teaching, believe it or not :)
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: Christy Nugs on December 13, 2012, 01:53 am
" Takes bull whip off hip - unravels mess and cracks SR on his little pink ass with it !!  "   :P
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: ronswanson77 on December 13, 2012, 01:57 am
Odds are the site will be down again for a min, unless its something they can fix with the traffic. But I dont know, I'm not that tech savy. Just keep in mind that if you do come on tomorrow or when ever and the site is down dont freak out and start throwing all those crazy conspiracy theories. Not saying anyone of you here has done it, its just a common occurrence every time the site goes down. But yes I'm sure a lot of us are getting the same error every now and then and Ive notice today and especially more so tonight the site is running extremely slow as well. I dont get it, cant they just buy a bigger server? How does that all work anyways? In simple minded terms please. Lol

I like to think I'm good at explaining stuff simply, so let's find out shall we  :)

Don't forget, this is the Tor network we're talking about.  That means that you're connecting to... I think it's 3 computers on the way to SR, then you finally hit SR.  It may be more or less, I'm not sure, but the basic point remains the same: the slowest connection between you and SR is basically the speed at which your connection to the site will run at.  If one of those links between you and SR is bogged down, your connection to SR will be bogged down no matter how fast the server is.

The 500 error, though, is from the SR server itself.  If you can't connect at all, it's probably just a link along the way or the Tor network trying to find a route to SR but not being able to yet.  That's why getting a "new identity" can help -- because it forces Tor to switch it's path to the server (which makes it look like you're somebody different than you just were).

Your assumption is correct brother. :)
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: Skippy_Jif on December 13, 2012, 02:10 am
Seems like SR needs to buy a better server with all the it's making! Just saying
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: Zta0341 on December 13, 2012, 02:26 am
Seems like SR needs to buy a better server with all the it's making! Just saying

Lol not sure if this is sarcasm or seriousness but we just covered that possible "fix" a few comments up. Thats what I was saying was why they cant just buy a better server, but apparently it isnt that simple. Which makes sense the more you think of it. Hence why the site itself is so secure.
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: Skippy_Jif on December 13, 2012, 02:39 am
IT's sarcasm. DPR has created such a bullet proof site that it can't fix it.
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: Zta0341 on December 13, 2012, 02:42 am
IT's sarcasm. DPR has created such a bullet proof site that it can't fix it.

For sure, I wasnt trying to be a cocky dick or anything I seriously didnt know your intentions. And yeah DPR has definitely built this site like a "brick shit house".
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: Skippy_Jif on December 13, 2012, 03:06 am
IT's sarcasm. DPR has created such a bullet proof site that it can't fix it.

For sure, I wasnt trying to be a cocky dick or anything I seriously didnt know your intentions. And yeah DPR has definitely built this site like a "brick shit house".
YOu're cool. I can understand why you would be confused on what I meant. There are some real heads on SR.
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: ch0sen on December 13, 2012, 03:30 am
I wanted to add a few thoughts.  Because this is SR, they cannot just go down the the AT&T data center and put in the biggest server or cluster of servers
on a gigabit link to the backbone and run TOR.  I imagine this has to be run, obviously on TOR, but either in some way with other hidden servers on shared space or
through maybe residential connections?  I don't really know and am just speculating, but it seems they would want to jump through many hoops to hide it
regardless of TOR, and that may also contribute to the issues they see. 

Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: rubberburner on December 13, 2012, 04:16 am
Odds are the site will be down again for a min, unless its something they can fix with the traffic. But I dont know, I'm not that tech savy. Just keep in mind that if you do come on tomorrow or when ever and the site is down dont freak out and start throwing all those crazy conspiracy theories.

I'm no expert by any means either, but good, rational point. It's so ridiculous when the site is down for an hour or so and hundreds of people flock to the forums and start talking out of their butt about whatever conspiracy theory they can come up with. And on top of that, they act like the site has never had downtime before and by spewing all these dumb conspiracy theories they just cause more people anxiety. The best thing to do if the site is down is something else. Ride a bike, watch some tv, call your grandma; I'm sure she'd love to hear from you.
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: ch0sen on December 13, 2012, 04:31 am
The forums are always more responsive and faster than the site.  That should be a good indicator of the lengths they go to.  So consider that when SR is down or not responsive.
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: Skippy_Jif on December 13, 2012, 05:15 am
call your grandma; I'm sure she'd love to hear from you.
I'm proud to give you your first +1 for that.
SEconded. On both accounts.
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: JakkTheKipper on December 14, 2012, 09:44 am
Site's great now. Fast as fuck and not an error message in sight.

Well done.
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 14, 2012, 12:36 pm
Well, hate to break it to you, but it pretty much always is in the wee hours of the United States night.
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 14, 2012, 01:11 pm
Well, hate to break it to you, but it pretty much always is in the wee hours of the United States night.

Cause nobody likes to get fucked up quite so much as a 'Murican. XD

Ahh.  So *that's* why our government is so fucked  ;)
Title: Re: 500 - Internal Server Error
Post by: jerryskid on December 14, 2012, 01:48 pm
SR has been down for days before, dont panic they bust there butt to keep it up and running. And just to be sure, if you cant connect always restart your tor connection and try again.