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Title: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: ikz on December 12, 2012, 12:31 am
From a business point of view, that's the SAFEST way you could ever get away with doing something like that.  Less chance to slip up.  Less chance to get addicted to whatever you're selling.. it just seems like what I would do if I ever wanted to get in this game. 

One fuck up and you're done.  There's like.. no room to even get fucked up in that equation. 
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: nabuchodonosor on December 12, 2012, 12:44 am
There was a good example, what was the name, ahh yea "Breaking Bad".
;)
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 12, 2012, 12:50 am
Well, if it's meth or similarly powerful stims you're talking about... I dunno.  You can get a lot of shit done on meth if you're used to it.  You always end up pushing it too far and fucking up though eventually, it seems.  Anything else you at least have to sleep eventually no matter how much of it you're on.

Honestly man, the way business is done here is so mechanical people could have machine lines doing the job for them basically.  I mean seriously, one piece of software and the mechanical assembly to package things up and voila, there you go, you're gonna be the biggest goddamn vendor SR's ever seen because you can fill orders w/o almost any effort no matter how fast they come in.  Fucked up or not, something that mechanical or repetitive isn't really hard to do.

If you mean the whole RL connections side, that's not really an SR issue, more of a constant thing that drugs will definitely fuck up if you let them, sure.  For my part, I think drugs are almost never beneficial to one's life in any way other than adding pleasure or with very well controlled use, possibly productivity.  Generally they'll fuck you and your activities up pretty easily though.  I know we love drugs around here and all, but really, don't we all know that's pretty true in the end?
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: Christy Nugs on December 12, 2012, 01:11 am

Honestly man, the way business is done here is so mechanical people could have machine lines doing the job for them basically.  I mean seriously, one piece of software and the mechanical assembly to package things up and voila, there you go, you're gonna be the biggest goddamn vendor SR's ever seen because you can fill orders w/o almost any effort no matter how fast they come in.  Fucked up or not, something that mechanical or repetitive isn't really hard to do.


r u fucking serious? i work my ass off. i spend hours just packaging and double checking orders then
i spend hours a day driving to far away post offices!
u r clueless dude!

and btw i smoke daily and also test everything i get from friends to sell here - i need to just to deal !!   roflmfao  :P
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: Thizzed410 on December 12, 2012, 01:33 am
Never get high off your own supply!
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 12, 2012, 01:36 am

Honestly man, the way business is done here is so mechanical people could have machine lines doing the job for them basically.  I mean seriously, one piece of software and the mechanical assembly to package things up and voila, there you go, you're gonna be the biggest goddamn vendor SR's ever seen because you can fill orders w/o almost any effort no matter how fast they come in.  Fucked up or not, something that mechanical or repetitive isn't really hard to do.


r u fucking serious? i work my ass off. i spend hours just packaging and double checking orders then
i spend hours a day driving to far away post offices!
u r clueless dude!

and btw i smoke daily and also test everything i get from friends to sell here - i need to just to deal !!   roflmfao  :P

Yeah, you're right, I admit it: I shouldn't have said that.  I spoke from the picture in my head, not from real experience.  Sometimes it's hard to catch yourself, ya know -- sorry about the questionable info.

In the end though... if you're fucked up all the time and still doing this job... my point does kind of stand, even if it's in a different way than I was getting at, lol.
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: BruceCampbell on December 12, 2012, 01:39 am
When the Silk Road site was down I recall reading a post from an admin that said DPR, runner of the Silk Road was drinking only coffee, working his ass off to get everything online.

So you might have a thesis in some cases.

Although I'm not a top vendor, and I do many, many drugs.
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: indonesia on December 12, 2012, 01:44 am
Most vendors here use their own products. Im not sure about the meth or crack vendors though. would be surprised if vendors took those.
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: Slicksuit on December 12, 2012, 01:49 am
I only really take MDMA and smoke the occasional bit of weed.

While I'm not officially a top-vendor, or even a vendor yet, when I do open my account - people will be blown away by my MDMA, it's the shit!

Even with the huge amounts I have sitting around, it's just not the kind of high I would want to feel everyday.

Such a beautiful drug when used properly.
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on December 12, 2012, 01:52 am
Most top vendors are businessmen (or woman) rather than drug addicts or party animals
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 12, 2012, 02:02 am
Most vendors here use their own products. Im not sure about the meth or crack vendors though. would be surprised if vendors took those.

Actually, a number of top meth vendors have spiraled away and vanished after screwing over a lot of people.  I mean I can think of like, 3 or 4 and I've only been part of the community for about 6 months.  The point is that they fell apart after 2-3 months on average.  If you have so much sitting there that you can just go on and on and have it never end... I don't know man.  That's a level of use I've never experienced.  I'd probably crash and burn too.
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: monrovia on December 12, 2012, 02:29 am
Most top vendors are businessmen (or woman) rather than drug addicts or party animals

This^^  But still, most, NOT all. There are definitely people that can handle taking their own shit while still keeping it professional and not fuck up, but I feel they are kind of few and far between. When I see a vendor that that has a million sales and people raving about how great a seller they are, I kind of picture a fairly normal, get up and go business oriented individual with a slightly different lifestyle/moral compass than most people who are motivated by the same enterprising mentality.

A good rule to remember, though, is "If you're a crackhead, sell dope. If you're a dopehead, sell crack." Because if you already are kind of a junkie and want to be a dealer, you sure as hell shouldn't sell your drug of choice.
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on December 12, 2012, 02:43 am
^^^ Yup, cause im on of the few freind. Not yet a vendor, im still teetering on it, but IRL i grind & party, and never let the two interfere B-)
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: danknugsdun on December 12, 2012, 04:25 am
I don't know about on SR but I know a few IRL dealers that sell just so they can consume their profits. What I mean by that is someone will buy an oz(28g) for £150, sell 15g for £10 a gram and keep the 13g for themselves.

I take a 2-3 grams out of all my batches to test quality.

Dank
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: ikz on December 12, 2012, 04:27 am
You think the big time dealers here need to sell to do drugs?

The fact is they're getting that shit for dirt cheap if they can offer us what they do at those prices..

Example: all the MDMA dealers, they sell it for almost dirt cheap and still make a profit obviously because they keep doing it.  they're probably THE source or one away from it
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 12, 2012, 04:33 am
You think the big time dealers here need to sell to do drugs?

The fact is they're getting that shit for dirt cheap if they can offer us what they do at those prices..

Example: all the MDMA dealers, they sell it for almost dirt cheap and still make a profit obviously because they keep doing it.  they're probably THE source or one away from it

I sometimes wonder just why there isn't more of that.  Direct link I mean.  I think what you're saying is entirely possible too.  But -- and now remember, I just buy the shit here so wtf do I know really -- it's a lot of fucking hassle, and for a guy who usually hands off weight that's measured by the kilo and walks away... why the fuck would you want to step down and be the guy you're supplying, plus all the hassle of bitcoins and shit?

I think the reason so many vendors here are grass roots style is mostly because of that, personally.  That they aren't one away, I mean, or at least that they don't know anybody who can move the kinds of amounts they want to be dealing with.
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: lucidmatrix on December 12, 2012, 04:36 am
The 10 rules of the game

1.Never let no one know
How much,dough you hold.
2.Never let em know your next move.
3.Never trust nobody.
4.Never get high, on your own supply.
5.Never sell no crack where you rest at.
6.That God damn credit, dead it.
7.Keep your family and business completely seperated.
8.Never keep no weight on you.
9.If you ain’t gettin bags stay the fuck from police.
10.A strong word called consignment,If you ain’t got the clientele say hell no.
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 12, 2012, 04:40 am
It takes a lot of self control.
Once upon a time I decided to start selling ounces of cocaine, (my recreational drug of choice)
basically start and end of story is I got incredibly high as fuck off my own supply and within a week I made no money off of it and gave most of it away (while high).
Lol.

Basically, sell what you aren't in to. If you love mdma don't sell it, hence I sell mdma, and it is not my drug of choice. Some people just have better self control than others though.
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on December 12, 2012, 04:51 am
The 10 rules of the game

1.Never let no one know
How much,dough you hold.
2.Never let em know your next move.
3.Never trust nobody.
4.Never get high, on your own supply.
5.Never sell no crack where you rest at.
6.That God damn credit, dead it.
7.Keep your family and business completely seperated.
8.Never keep no weight on you.
9.If you ain’t gettin bags stay the fuck from police.
10.A strong word called consignment,If you ain’t got the clientele say hell no.

+1
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on December 12, 2012, 04:53 am
Any one who is selling only to support their habit, or save money as the user would likely say LOL, they are  1) doing it for the totally wrong reason, 2) wasting their time, and 3)putting their ass on the line for, well NOTHING LOL
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on December 12, 2012, 05:01 am
You think the big time dealers here need to sell to do drugs?

The fact is they're getting that shit for dirt cheap if they can offer us what they do at those prices..

Example: all the MDMA dealers, they sell it for almost dirt cheap and still make a profit obviously because they keep doing it.  they're probably THE source or one away from it

I sometimes wonder just why there isn't more of that.  Direct link I mean.  I think what you're saying is entirely possible too.  But -- and now remember, I just buy the shit here so wtf do I know really -- it's a lot of fucking hassle, and for a guy who usually hands off weight that's measured by the kilo and walks away... why the fuck would you want to step down and be the guy you're supplying, plus all the hassle of bitcoins and shit?

I think the reason so many vendors here are grass roots style is mostly because of that, personally.  That they aren't one away, I mean, or at least that they don't know anybody who can move the kinds of amounts they want to be dealing with.

I think the most of the vendors on here are just people like you and I, (if your anything like me lol) who have a IRL network of people with a variaty of substances available to them, at prices that may be quite good as opposed to the prices of the same product in another part of the country or world, and vica verse as well.

 Than there is the actual big dogs. The vendors that are seriously connected IRL in the drug scene. These are the people that can afford to let a brick(kg) of MDMA go for $13,000, or sheets of cleaan high quality LSD at $550 a sheet, & so on and so forth.

Theres also alot of small time guys that pretty much just nickle and dime stuff that they get from the big time vendors that are infact most probably the first step down from a serious connect, if not the manufacturer them selves.
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 12, 2012, 05:03 am
Any one who is selling only to support their habit, or save money as the user would likely say LOL, they are  1) doing it for the totally wrong reason, 2) wasting their time, and 3)putting their ass on the line for, well NOTHING LOL

As opposed to putting their ass on the line for nothing but big stacks of cash...?  Why's that better than supporting your habit?   ???
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on December 12, 2012, 05:06 am
Any one who is selling only to support their habit, or save money as the user would likely say LOL, they are  1) doing it for the totally wrong reason, 2) wasting their time, and 3)putting their ass on the line for, well NOTHING LOL

As opposed to putting their ass on the line for nothing but big stacks of cash...?  Why's that better than supporting your habit?   ???

Well because money is money, and its all about the money..mainly because it makes the world turn, and it will pay for a lawyer when the shit hits the fan..and 99.9% of the time, it does. This is all just my opnions , im no one really =0)
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: SelfSovereignty on December 12, 2012, 05:12 am
No, I see what you're getting at.  I'm just thinking from the perspective that money -- and I mean I like it just as much as the next guy, don't get me wrong -- has no use except to spend.  So it's value is basically nothing more than what you can trade it for.

It does kind of have its own little... appeal though, doesn't it, lol.
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: ronswanson77 on December 12, 2012, 09:22 pm

Honestly man, the way business is done here is so mechanical people could have machine lines doing the job for them basically.  I mean seriously, one piece of software and the mechanical assembly to package things up and voila, there you go, you're gonna be the biggest goddamn vendor SR's ever seen because you can fill orders w/o almost any effort no matter how fast they come in.  Fucked up or not, something that mechanical or repetitive isn't really hard to do.


r u fucking serious? i work my ass off. i spend hours just packaging and double checking orders then
i spend hours a day driving to far away post offices!
u r clueless dude!

and btw i smoke daily and also test everything i get from friends to sell here - i need to just to deal !!   roflmfao  :P

I'd imagine most (well at least the good ones) vendors have a similar experience.  I would honestly never want to be an SR vendor, too much stress.  Props to the guys and gals that work their asses off to bring me my meds!
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: Funbagz on December 12, 2012, 09:29 pm
Never get high off your own supply!

Thanks ICE CUBE!!!

Dopeman, dopeman! (Ay man, give me a hit)
Dopeman, dopeman! (Yo man, fuck that shit!)
Dopeman, dopeman! (We just can't quit!)
Dopeman, dopeman! (Well suck this bitch!)
 8)
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: Funbagz on December 12, 2012, 09:35 pm
Any one who is selling only to support their habit, or save money as the user would likely say LOL, they are  1) doing it for the totally wrong reason, 2) wasting their time, and 3)putting their ass on the line for, well NOTHING LOL

As opposed to putting their ass on the line for nothing but big stacks of cash...?  Why's that better than supporting your habit?   ???

+1 if I could give karma. When a dealer gets raided, ALL of said person's finances will be frozen. ALL cash will be seized, Cars forfeited, even the house you own could be taken from you if you do not have Tax documents proving you didn't pay for the home with drug money. So yeah..... selling to support habit is the same as selling to make stacks of cash. Either way, if you get busted you're prolly gonna be broke. (unless most of your money was in Bitcoin and not findable by the law. Even then, by the time you get out of prison, bitcoin may not exist. <shrugs>
Title: Re: Anyone else feel like most of the top vendors.. don't use drugs at all?
Post by: zazoo on December 12, 2012, 09:45 pm
Seems some of the heroin/meth vendors in the past may have been using their supply. Either that or they are unstable characters generally  ;).  Why cloud your judgement when doing a job that already attracts a lot of paranoia.  If you start using an addictive drug you offer in almost endless supply, unless you have extreme willpower it will harm business.