Silk Road forums
Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Snuj Team on December 09, 2012, 09:07 am
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I like that word, so I guess you do to. Yes, of course, nothing is for free.
Once we get to our "set" amount of members as our first milestone, we will be giving away, $50 USD (500 Snuj Dollars) to buy WHATEVER you want from our market! Hell yeah.
See our sig? That's our address, stop by, sign up and browse. More vendors coming throughout this upcoming week, so feel free to pass along the site to your friends, family, dogs, cats, and your neighbor Joe.
-Jimmy
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best of luck mr snozberies and your team of snoz scientists
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I want some snozberries. ;)
But thanks! Also to any vendor who would like to join up with us, better do it soon. We have quite a few vendors coming our way as a secondary market, or just simply to expand and we WILL be changing how we do things in the near future. Right now, if you're a vendor on SR with a good solid history, you're free to come aboard. Don't wait too long as we will be charging seller fees in the not so distant future. If you're a new vendor and want to come aboard, you'll need to put down a safety desposit, but please get in touch with us first.
Also, no, we're not wanting you to abandon SR ofc. This is an alternate market for vendors if SR is down so you're still making money.
Commissions are lower, but then again, so is our traffic at the moment. Perhaps since it's a lower commission rate, you can charge your customers less to? eh? eh? ;)
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Still looking for some new members to join the market! :)
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Just because it's on the darknet doesn't mean it has to be pitchblack, it's impossible to read anything lol. Lighten it up a bit.
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Just because it's on the darknet doesn't mean it has to be pitchblack, it's impossible to read anything lol. Lighten it up a bit.
Lightened up. ;)
Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully it's a little easier to see now. :)
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I would like to remind/warn everyone that, just like Silk Road, and just like BMR, this market could be a federal honeypot.
Silk Road has operated without any kind of major sting, so far. Hopefully that means Silk Road is not a honeypot. It was the first to, well... the marketplace and as we all know, the feds are shit at being the first to anything, but BMR and Sluj? Take caution, take care, don't use a similar-at-all password, encrypt fucking everything.
But then, the same is true for over here. Jus' being a realist, Sluj-man. Hope you understand.
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I would like to remind/warn everyone that, just like Silk Road, and just like BMR, this market could be a federal honeypot.
Silk Road has operated without any kind of major sting, so far. Hopefully that means Silk Road is not a honeypot. It was the first to, well... the marketplace and as we all know, the feds are shit at being the first to anything, but BMR and Sluj? Take caution, take care, don't use a similar-at-all password, encrypt fucking everything.
But then, the same is true for over here. Jus' being a realist, Sluj-man. Hope you understand.
I couldn't agree more on this actually. Everyone should always be cautious!
Another reason why, thus far, only reputable members of SR or other sites have been granted access to the list so far. We have talked to many vendors (appox ~200) and most of which had some serious interest and from my conversation with them are interested in signing up with us as a backup/expansion. Please use the upmost discretion on any site, especially when buying things that are illegal!
Obviously there is no way for me to prove I'm not a honeypot, but I'm working on getting my reputation along with the market's reputation up to make sure people aren't completely hesitant on using it, which I do understand can take some time.
I haven't achieved the "Give Good Karma" yet, but consdier yourself +1 for that post.
Very interesting, I look forward to seeing how this grows. The money system seems sounds, this could be a very beneficial market if it is tailored to the right people to keep out scammers, kids, other problems SR has, etc.
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Yes the money system is designed for multiple reasons. It's like this for the following reasons:
A.) It's a set price on Snuj Dollars, so that vendors can list their prices in USD format and sell it in USD format or in Snuj Dollars.
B.) It doesn't depreciate the value of the BTC from internal sending and the vendor can choose when they want their payout to get the most out of their cashout value.
C.) It's transparent, since the money isn't going through any other outside source, it's all internal at that point and within $0.10 accurate of each order, nothing to complain about if you're left with 1 Snuj Dollar in your account, because it's only $0.10USD and I've yet to meet someone who will cry over that small amount of money.
I'm sure there are things that we will run into, being a new market; but we do want to wish everyone who joins a warm welcome and hope that we can be a reliable source outside of SR/BMR for future purchases.
Thanks you two for the feedback, and I am always open to suggestions/feedback/comments. I guess I should also mention, I will be around a lot, so if there are issues with the site you're not in the dark, which is always a bonus.
-Jimmy
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Welcome to the new people with us, would like to wish everyone a warm welcome. We're looking for more still before that $50 prize is given away to use on our vendors that are coming soon!
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Welcome to the new people with us, would like to wish everyone a warm welcome. We're looking for more still before that $50 prize is given away to use on our vendors that are coming soon!
Given that there is no way to actually prove anyone has joined your market and given that your very polite and "Yes, you should be suspicious" response was very polite...
I'm still suspicious. Because that is an "honest" reaction and a smart enough scumbag knows how to do that.
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Welcome to the new people with us, would like to wish everyone a warm welcome. We're looking for more still before that $50 prize is given away to use on our vendors that are coming soon!
Given that there is no way to actually prove anyone has joined your market and given that your very polite and "Yes, you should be suspicious" response was very polite...
I'm still suspicious. Because that is an "honest" reaction and a smart enough scumbag knows how to do that.
It's also against the forum rules \ just a bit of a generally dick-ish thing to do to advertize other marketplaces on here. But I like the "Mr Nice Guy" persona as well, I'd stick with it regardless.
Seems if your brand new marketplace was good\safe enough to support a network similar to this it would sell itself, and not have to ride the wave of SR publicity.
And moksha with the best reason, in my opinion at least, to think it's a scam or honeypot.
Plus, BMR pulled the exact same shit...
And Sluj isn't even talking about using bitcoins. BMR looks like less of a honeypot than Sluj, that's for fucking sure. (And if I'm wrong about the bitcoins, that's because I don't trust it enough to even visit the site.)
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Welcome to the new people with us, would like to wish everyone a warm welcome. We're looking for more still before that $50 prize is given away to use on our vendors that are coming soon!
Given that there is no way to actually prove anyone has joined your market and given that your very polite and "Yes, you should be suspicious" response was very polite...
I'm still suspicious. Because that is an "honest" reaction and a smart enough scumbag knows how to do that.
It's also against the forum rules \ just a bit of a generally dick-ish thing to do to advertize other marketplaces on here. But I like the "Mr Nice Guy" persona as well, I'd stick with it regardless.
Seems if your brand new marketplace was good\safe enough to support a network similar to this it would sell itself, and not have to ride the wave of SR publicity.
And moksha with the best reason, in my opinion at least, to think it's a scam or honeypot.
Plus, BMR pulled the exact same shit...
And Sluj isn't even talking about using bitcoins. BMR looks like less of a honeypot than Sluj, that's for fucking sure. (And if I'm wrong about the bitcoins, that's because I don't trust it enough to even visit the site.)
To answer the quetions of Blargh first, with a followup to moksa..
Firstly there is SOME proof, we're obviously sitll new as I have mentioned previously, but the vendors that are on there have links underneath their name linking them to the market they came from and the likewise link referring back to Snuj (Not Slug haha) is in there profile as SR has no where stated that providing a link to outside communications are not allowed it is against their TOS to market or ask to sell outside of SR. None of the vendors are asking, they simply have a link listed, which is less equivalent to having their email listed where they could perform "moon lighting" anyhow if they so choose to do so; likewise I suppose that is also possible within our market or for that matter any other market out there as long as there is some form of outside communication allowed it's plausible for it to happen thus making it not smiled upon, though it causes less of a risk to their TOS than providing an email address, which every vendor does have.
Secondly to the first quoted reply, just because I'm honest and trying to do my best at being as transparent as possible while maintaining my personal identity doesn't mean I'm a scumbag also, I'm assuming the, "smart scumbag" would be because I try to reply to every response in a as professional voice as I am trying to take this into a business, granted not legitimate in anyway, shape or form; nevertheless doesn't mean I cannot act professionaly, curtious and well spoken, while being as informative as possible. Not trying to point fingers at you as in trying to flip it around on you. I wanted to be firm about that stance and get that in the open for everyone to see. I take pride in what I do, and I love what I do as well.
To Moksha: You're right, it definitely is on the, "dick-ish" side, however, what other options are out there. The means in which SR became available is by enevitably doing the same thing. They don't get indexed, crawled and searched for such as with a normal TLD. It's not the way I wanted to go to ask for some publicity; but outside of the other places I have already posted, there simply is no better way of advertisement then simple word of mouth. So yes, I don't disagree that it very likely is against their ToS, I'm just hoping that by using the tactfulness of each post, I will provide far better service helping this wonderful community as well as mine in the future.
Back to BlarghRawr:
I am not familiar with BMR's marketplace; I have never been a client/customer of theirs as I have always used SR and SR exclusively, so I cannot even speak for what they've done and personally it has nothing to do with me, so I really don't want to read about what sounds to me like huge problem over there, I'm confident we won't have the same issues.
As for Bitcoins, yes we do absolutely use them, that is the only way to purchase these items. The, "Snuj Dollars" are internal currency so once the Bitcoins are received each mBTC to BTC is worth a certain amount respectively to it's last, it would need no market and if there was it would be no more or less than the BTC market since they're value is in equal proportions to the volatile market of BTC anyhow.
How the internal money system works is practically the same way, though, now that I'm bringing it up in a sentence and thinking into it more, I do need to modify the ability of others to see each others balances and remove it. However, with that money system it in the end works the exact same way as SR or any other market would. It has a value attached to how much internal money was transferred to the vendor (along with the PM of their address to send their items to) and the vendor is able, along with all the users, able to see their transaction history under the, "Bank" menu. We have it setup in mBTC so you can get down to the $0.10USD price of each order so you won't have a lot of spare worth your while left on the site.
The reason we chose this system was that some vendors find it easier to price their items out in USD or they can do it in Snuj if they like, but it offers them the flexibilty to easily modify their prices if needed and not necassarily worry about how the market is with BTC, it's at a USD rate and essentially it works the same as SR does.
-- My personal thoughts, not to reflect Snuj --
Guys, I really do not mind the critisism, I try to find some positive feedback somewhere in there on things I can work on, improve etc. before Snuj gets larger. So bad or good, I'll stick with my "Mr. Nice Guy" title, because fuck it.. I'm stoned, I'm in a good mood and I jsut typed a bunch of shit out, because I care about what I'm doing. I'm out here answering questions and comments at 4AM in the morning. I love what I'm doing and I hope others see it too.
"Mr Nice Guy"
-Jimmy
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Welcome to the new people with us, would like to wish everyone a warm welcome. We're looking for more still before that $50 prize is given away to use on our vendors that are coming soon!
Given that there is no way to actually prove anyone has joined your market and given that your very polite and "Yes, you should be suspicious" response was very polite...
I'm still suspicious. Because that is an "honest" reaction and a smart enough scumbag knows how to do that.
It's also against the forum rules \ just a bit of a generally dick-ish thing to do to advertize other marketplaces on here. But I like the "Mr Nice Guy" persona as well, I'd stick with it regardless.
Seems if your brand new marketplace was good\safe enough to support a network similar to this it would sell itself, and not have to ride the wave of SR publicity.
And moksha with the best reason, in my opinion at least, to think it's a scam or honeypot.
Plus, BMR pulled the exact same shit...
And Sluj isn't even talking about using bitcoins. BMR looks like less of a honeypot than Sluj, that's for fucking sure. (And if I'm wrong about the bitcoins, that's because I don't trust it enough to even visit the site.)
(Snip. Just look above for it.)
Couple small points;
SR and Snuj both get indexed, thanks to having links and thanks to .onion.to Google even crawls the darknet, now. Just do a search for something a couple weeks old on google, it'll pop up. This forum is indexed. So I hope to fuck your log-in page is the only one accessible without logging in. And... you should probably do that for your forum, too.
Also, you've convinced me that you're legit(ish), and I'm decently paranoid as fuck. I don't wear the tinfoiliest of hats, and I still won't be visiting unless SR 100% dies, but I'd go to you far sooner than I'd go to BMR. There's still the honeypot risk, though. BMR is, strictly speaking, lower on that risk than you are, as the admin is a COMPLETE fucknugget and I just don't think the Fed's could be that stupid. They'd look more like you, sorry to say. (tinfoil hat)
You get my vote of risky-confidence, and there's very little risk(I think. Smart people, correct me?) if everyone using your place takes proper encryption and safety steps. I'm not SOLD, I still won't go unless SR dies, but I would go to your market before BMR. After all, "safe when steps are taken" is better than "sketchy as fuck and the admin is a fucknugget".
Also, as for calling it Sluj, that was just my mistake, I couldn't remember the real name.
But yeah, you're professional and courteous and that's why I've been(mostly, perhaps? Hopefully fully), too.
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Welcome to the new people with us, would like to wish everyone a warm welcome. We're looking for more still before that $50 prize is given away to use on our vendors that are coming soon!
Given that there is no way to actually prove anyone has joined your market and given that your very polite and "Yes, you should be suspicious" response was very polite...
I'm still suspicious. Because that is an "honest" reaction and a smart enough scumbag knows how to do that.
It's also against the forum rules \ just a bit of a generally dick-ish thing to do to advertize other marketplaces on here. But I like the "Mr Nice Guy" persona as well, I'd stick with it regardless.
Seems if your brand new marketplace was good\safe enough to support a network similar to this it would sell itself, and not have to ride the wave of SR publicity.
And moksha with the best reason, in my opinion at least, to think it's a scam or honeypot.
Plus, BMR pulled the exact same shit...
And Sluj isn't even talking about using bitcoins. BMR looks like less of a honeypot than Sluj, that's for fucking sure. (And if I'm wrong about the bitcoins, that's because I don't trust it enough to even visit the site.)
(Snip. Just look above for it.)
Couple small points;
SR and Snuj both get indexed, thanks to having links and thanks to .onion.to Google even crawls the darknet, now. Just do a search for something a couple weeks old on google, it'll pop up. This forum is indexed. So I hope to fuck your log-in page is the only one accessible without logging in. And... you should probably do that for your forum, too.
Also, you've convinced me that you're legit(ish), and I'm decently paranoid as fuck. I don't wear the tinfoiliest of hats, and I still won't be visiting unless SR 100% dies, but I'd go to you far sooner than I'd go to BMR. There's still the honeypot risk, though. BMR is, strictly speaking, lower on that risk than you are, as the admin is a COMPLETE fucknugget and I just don't think the Fed's could be that stupid. They'd look more like you, sorry to say. (tinfoil hat)
You get my vote of risky-confidence, and there's very little risk(I think. Smart people, correct me?) if everyone using your place takes proper encryption and safety steps. I'm not SOLD, I still won't go unless SR dies, but I would go to your market before BMR. After all, "safe when steps are taken" is better than "sketchy as fuck and the admin is a fucknugget".
Also, as for calling it Sluj, that was just my mistake, I couldn't remember the real name.
But yeah, you're professional and courteous and that's why I've been(mostly, perhaps? Hopefully fully), too.
Feedback taken and resolved. Forum is locked down to only registered members, also I did a few sneaky things for the bots that would potentially index us. The landing page has Java in it, so it probably won't load for anyone unless they have Java enabled. (Bad Idea..) but looks legitimate even if somehow the IP address was randomly discovered and or the onion.to address is finally indexed. Once the bot is there, the only link that leads outside of the home/landing page is a 404 redirect, so it will come up as a 404 crawled page, though in reality it's a false 404 meta redirect and it will then redirect the client to the /market area, instead of the former /forums (anyone who wants to try, goto /forums instead of /market). Once past that it could only index a login page.
I can understand the hesitance, but with anything that has risk; you'll need to take proper cautions on your end to make sure any transaction of this caliber is safeguarded in the upmost fashion possible.
No hard feelings, again I don't mind hearing negative (though, I love positive) reviews/feedback, because eliminating those concerns right away just makes it better.
"Mr Nice Guy"
-Jimmy
Yeah, I'm using that name now haha.
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We will be updating our site with it's SSL self-signed cert today and will be taking in and considering other feedback as well that may pose any concern to other members, so if you wish please post your concerns here if you're not comfortable making an account yet, so we can make a list of things to help enhance our security of the site.
Much appreciated and a nice warm welcome to the latest new members and vendors!
-Jimmy
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I remember Mtljhn talking with me about the same thing here we discussed setting up our own version of SR but not this style John said he had everything in place and even hired a web designer I wouldn't be suprised if this isn't Mtljhn
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I remember Mtljhn talking with me about the same thing here we discussed setting up our own version of SR but not this style John said he had everything in place and even hired a web designer I wouldn't be suprised if this isn't Mtljhn
While I must admit, I'm not sure who these individuals are quite yet; I'm still obviously very new to the forum, as you can tell by the posts. I'll take that as a compliment though! ;)
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only John would have this much arrogance to list his market on SR and expect to get away with it they banned pot2peer so we will make sure you are next Go some wheres else and advertise your market everyone here is just fine
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only John would have this much arrogance to list his market on SR and expect to get away with it they banned pot2peer so we will make sure you are next Go some wheres else and advertise your market everyone here is just fine
I'm not John or any other said person, I'm just a guy with a good amount of online business experience, server administration, etc.. I respect your thoughts, and with all due respects, again; how do you think SR got started? They posted somewhere they shouldn't.
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John doesn't have the brains for this. And he can only write in all caps with no punctuation whatsoever except for the outrageous amounts of exclamation points. I'm pretty sure this is not John.
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John doesn't have the brains for this. And he can only write in all caps with no punctuation whatsoever except for the outrageous amounts of exclamation points. I'm pretty sure this is not John.
Thank you. Again, I'm not even sure what this John guy did, but it sounds bad from the tone of it all; however, I assure you I am not him.
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Welcome everyone! :)
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I remember Mtljhn talking with me about the same thing here we discussed setting up our own version of SR but not this style John said he had everything in place and even hired a web designer I wouldn't be suprised if this isn't Mtljhn
only John would have this much arrogance to list his market on SR and expect to get away with it they banned pot2peer so we will make sure you are next Go some wheres else and advertise your market everyone here is just fine
The reason this can't be John is because John's attempts would look like BMR in the earliest days, where it was still pedo-friendly. (And to remind everyone, that stance only changed because everyone that the fuckhead admin tried to tell about his site got on his case about it. Not because the admin was actually opposed to child porn being sold.)
No, if anything, John's been that SANTA user account(and others) that have started to spam the forums with some market or another. I haven't even checked the link and so far have just assumed it is BMR. Given what you've just said, I now assume it is John's. Either way, still bad-news-bear.
After having talked with Snuj a bit, Snuj market is the only market I would suggest as an alternative to SR, and even that recommendation comes with the additional tag of "Only if SR completely disappears."
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I suggest everyone get their favorite vendors tormail/pm/gpg details so if SR does go down completely you don't have to resort to using shady sites like this.
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I suggest everyone get their favorite vendors tormail/pm/gpg details so if SR does go down completely you don't have to resort to using shady sites like this.
Yeah, that always seems like the better option...
Safer for vendors, too. The coins won't be "from Silk Road" anymore, so the only thing they'll need is a no-traces mixer. A bit less safe; Transferring coins from the customer directly into a place like MTGox. Legally speaking, since Gox would turn over all details should they get a subpoena, if traceable accounts on the Gox were used, that would make an arrest real easy. But a good stealth-mixer throws out that issue, because the coins would have no legally-discernible connection to the drug-buy.
Not as safe for buyers, though. No escrow means no protection. No forum means no community reports... So a market is safer for the buyer, and no market is safer for the seller.
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I remember Mtljhn talking with me about the same thing here we discussed setting up our own version of SR but not this style John said he had everything in place and even hired a web designer I wouldn't be suprised if this isn't Mtljhn
only John would have this much arrogance to list his market on SR and expect to get away with it they banned pot2peer so we will make sure you are next Go some wheres else and advertise your market everyone here is just fine
The reason this can't be John is because John's attempts would look like BMR in the earliest days, where it was still pedo-friendly. (And to remind everyone, that stance only changed because everyone that the fuckhead admin tried to tell about his site got on his case about it. Not because the admin was actually opposed to child porn being sold.)
No, if anything, John's been that SANTA user account(and others) that have started to spam the forums with some market or another. I haven't even checked the link and so far have just assumed it is BMR. Given what you've just said, I now assume it is John's. Either way, still bad-news-bear.
After having talked with Snuj a bit, Snuj market is the only market I would suggest as an alternative to SR, and even that recommendation comes with the additional tag of "Only if SR completely disappears."
And we will continue to stay active throughout and make sure that all requirements are met to meet any and all standards to prove that, A.) I'm not John, B.) that there is a secure, backup market to meet everyone's needs.
I suggest everyone get their favorite vendors tormail/pm/gpg details so if SR does go down completely you don't have to resort to using shady sites like this.
Shady sites like this? By defacto all of these sites are shady. Also, your post sounds like throwing in the towel to me. Just because one site goes down, doesn't mean everyone needs to bunker up.
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I'M Mtljohn...
on a side note, no big vendor is going to migrate, i assure that
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I'M Mtljohn...
on a side note, no big vendor is going to migrate, i assure that
Awesome to get validation of this John fella'. Thanks for dropping in to verify who you are, but seeing how we have a top 10 heroin vendor, multiple #30 or less cannabis vendors, top 10 psychedelics, and top #10 pharms, yea I'd say we're getting some big vendors.
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Shady sites like this? By defacto all of these sites are shady. Also, your post sounds like throwing in the towel to me. Just because one site goes down, doesn't mean everyone needs to bunker up.
Don't get me wrong I hope you're legit and are the next big thing. We need multiple sites as big as SR run with the same integrity. I just have a different perspective on this then your average buyer, I've been doing business online since '04 so, going outside of the marketplace is not really a big deal to me. Hell, I do the majority of my business with vendors outside of SR but your average buyer has never experienced anything outside the marketplace...There's too many con artists to do this successfully these days anyways unless you are connected from before SR.
As for you having multiple top 10 vendors, if this is true I would like some verification.
Well, because for obvious reasons. It might not really be them, just another scam....
Good luck to you if you're legit hope it works out well for you, good day.
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Shady sites like this? By defacto all of these sites are shady. Also, your post sounds like throwing in the towel to me. Just because one site goes down, doesn't mean everyone needs to bunker up.
Don't get me wrong I hope you're legit and are the next big thing. We need multiple sites as big as SR run with the same integrity. I just have a different perspective on this then your average buyer, I've been doing business online since '04 so, going outside of the marketplace is not really a big deal to me. Hell, I do the majority of my business with vendors outside of SR but your average buyer has never experienced anything outside the marketplace...There's too many con artists to do this successfully these days anyways unless you are connected from before SR.
As for you having multiple top 10 vendors, if this is true I would like some verification.
Well, because for obvious reasons. It might not really be them, just another scam....
Good luck to you if you're legit hope it works out well for you, good day.
Every single one of our vendors has both referring and backlinking from the market they came from, so if a vendor is on Snuj it has their user profile link in their signature. On the corresponding market, they have a link to their profile on Snuj, thus making it as transparent as possible to provide the identity of each vendor. Hope that clears that up and can illeviate some concerns on it being a possible scam. Again, not all of our vendors are on board yet. Some will be coming soon, more to follow as they are busy and don't have the time this very second to put the information in; however I've been emailed by a lot of vendors who said they're interested and they're wanting to get put on the site.
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Awesome day for Snuj! We have had our very first transaction and we are waiting on the feedback to come in within the next week I hope. I'm sure it will be positive. Hope to see more people order here in the near future, especially when more vendors get in there.
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I'm the one that order something. I'll post back on everything bout the transaction. As far as i'm concerned it's legit. The 2 vendors on the site atm have good rep from SR and another site.
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Sounds and looks like a load of bollocks to me.
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Sounds and looks like a load of bollocks to me.
The vendors are 100% on SR. If they are trusted enough to sell their, why would it matter if it went to a smaller community?? I understand the skepticism, it's not like i just spent a grand at the site.. the little money i spent is worth what im getting and to start trust with another place
and nice page limetless-- you really are THE gangster lol
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Sounds and looks like a load of bollocks to me.
If I was to jump ship and join another crew, it would be Snuj.
But I'd rather swim for shore, I think.
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Sounds and looks like a load of bollocks to me.
If I was to jump ship and join another crew, it would be Snuj.
But I'd rather swim for shore, I think.
Thanks for the kind words, (mostly haha). I'm glad I made at least a somewhat good impression on you and hope that one day you'll be a strong member of the Snuj community! :)
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Yesterday we had our first transaction along with nearly 10 new members. Quite happy to see things moving along quite well. We also implemented some security updates, along with a new rule for BTC/Cash Vendors have somewhat different rules than members selling good, but nothing that would detour any legitimate vendors, only scammers!
-Jimmy
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We will be updating our site with it's SSL self-signed cert today and will be taking in and considering other feedback as well that may pose any concern to other members, so if you wish please post your concerns here if you're not comfortable making an account yet, so we can make a list of things to help enhance our security of the site.
Much appreciated and a nice warm welcome to the latest new members and vendors!
-Jimmy
Full disclosure: I got tired of reading after the first 25 posts. But this is bullshit. SSL will do nothing but bog the site down and waste resources. This is -- I can only assume -- exactly why SR does not use SSL or TLS. Tor already provides that. Doing it again is just burning server resources uselessly. If you're for real, this is shooting yourself in the foot and guaranteeing that if we all ever jump ship, we'll cripple your server(s) and your site will cease to be used because nobody will be able to use it.
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Snuj - can i ask, how do you propose to overcome the problems which SR has encountered? Obviously with its notoriety has come Ddos and various attacks to try and make it less accessible, with all the resources DPR must have to hand now, how will you do better?
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I'm not holding my breath. It'd be nice if this was legit but yano, I'm a cynical fuck so what can I say?
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Subscribing to thread.
I wonder how this is gunna turn out..?
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Signed up and hoping for the best.
If bitcoin/GPG/escrow is mandatory I think it is at least promising.
Time will tell.
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Signed up and hoping for the best.
If bitcoin/GPG/escrow is mandatory I think it is at least promising.
Time will tell.
Congrats on your 100th post :D
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lol thanks, +1 ;D
Finally no captchas...
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Lots to discuss haha, but no problem!
We will be updating our site with it's SSL self-signed cert today and will be taking in and considering other feedback as well that may pose any concern to other members, so if you wish please post your concerns here if you're not comfortable making an account yet, so we can make a list of things to help enhance our security of the site.
Much appreciated and a nice warm welcome to the latest new members and vendors!
-Jimmy
Full disclosure: I got tired of reading after the first 25 posts. But this is bullshit. SSL will do nothing but bog the site down and waste resources. This is -- I can only assume -- exactly why SR does not use SSL or TLS. Tor already provides that. Doing it again is just burning server resources uselessly. If you're for real, this is shooting yourself in the foot and guaranteeing that if we all ever jump ship, we'll cripple your server(s) and your site will cease to be used because nobody will be able to use it.
Yes, I really should modify that post. I initially thought of it being a good idea, but actually yes you're right in every regards there, however it's actually worse, since and SSL would only make Tor less anonymous because of it's lower encryption vs Tor itself and how it's network works. This is from what I read on Tor's wiki in regards to SSL. **Not 100% sure, but, from what I understood of it, correct me if I'm wrong.**
Signed up and hoping for the best.
If bitcoin/GPG/escrow is mandatory I think it is at least promising.
Time will tell.
Certainly does take some potential scammers out of the loop, which is always a bonus.
Subscribing to thread.
I wonder how this is gunna turn out..?
Only time will tell, but we're obviously hoping for the best.
I'm not holding my breath. It'd be nice if this was legit but yano, I'm a cynical fuck so what can I say?
Well hopefully time will eliminate it, but I can't hold that against you. I understand the possible risk everyone is taking, of course. I'm taking an even higher risk being the one running it. But hey, whenever you're ready, come on in! :)
Snuj - can i ask, how do you propose to overcome the problems which SR has encountered? Obviously with its notoriety has come Ddos and various attacks to try and make it less accessible, with all the resources DPR must have to hand now, how will you do better?
This is an interesting post, which is why I saved it for last. The setup we have currently is, shall we say redundant. I am really hesitant on giving the setup, however if one IP gets hit before even reaching the server, we can automatically switch IP addresses, reboot Tor and within a few minutes it will resolve to the new IP address. We have a layer of protection before it even hits our firewalls, which can handle a significant packet attack along with sheer bandwidth. Obviously nothing is IMPOSSIBLE to keep down, break into, etc.. We're taking enough proper precautions to illeviate some troubles we see could be there, but without having to be in the niche market prior we're setup for what we expect will be out potential risks. So, yes, some risk assessment has been done, there is proper hardware along with protection for us as we see currently fit.
Also, I would like to point out as well, that I'm around more often then most, and I wouldn't keep you guys in the dark on what's going on. I'll be easy to get in touch with, which is a huge downfall in my opinion that other markets do not target, general customer service.
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I hope that answers everyone's questions sufficiently!
-Jimmy
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interesting
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I have to say I'm surprised that SR is even letting this fly.
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I have to say I'm surprised that SR is even letting this fly.
My thoughts exactly.
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interesting
Hopefully in a good way? :)
I have to say I'm surprised that SR is even letting this fly.
I mean, honestly, I am as well.. I'm just trying to have some fair competition really with them, as I personally think, DPR is making too much money for the cause. I mean yea, servers cost a lot of money; [REDACTED]. I know what the costs are and he's making that and over by 100 fold if not more easy a month, hell possibily a week!
I have to say I'm surprised that SR is even letting this fly.
My thoughts exactly.
See above.
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interesting
Hopefully in a good way? :)
I have to say I'm surprised that SR is even letting this fly.
I mean, honestly, I am as well.. I'm just trying to have some fair competition really with them, as I personally think, DPR is making too much money for the cause. I mean yea, servers cost a lot of money [REDACTED] and he's making that and over by 100 fold if not more easy a month, hell possibily a week!
I have to say I'm surprised that SR is even letting this fly.
My thoughts exactly.
See above.
I'm assuming you're for real. You must, must, MUST NOT DO THIS. You jeopardize not only yourself, but ALL who use your site. Let your knowledge speak for itself. Don't be going around telling people why you're credible.
If you are, people will be able to tell that. Not all, but the ones willing to see will. Hopefully that'll be enough. Because otherwise.., you're going to get yourself and possibly everyone who uses your site fucked over.
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So what would you take as a cut %-wise from each sale and what would be the brackets?
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interesting
Hopefully in a good way? :)
I have to say I'm surprised that SR is even letting this fly.
I mean, honestly, I am as well.. I'm just trying to have some fair competition really with them, as I personally think, DPR is making too much money for the cause. I mean yea, servers cost a lot of money [REDACTED] and he's making that and over by 100 fold if not more easy a month, hell possibily a week!
I have to say I'm surprised that SR is even letting this fly.
My thoughts exactly.
See above.
I'm assuming you're for real. You must, must, MUST NOT DO THIS. You jeopardize not only yourself, but ALL who use your site. Let your knowledge speak for itself. Don't be going around telling people why you're credible.
If you are, people will be able to tell that. Not all, but the ones willing to see will. Hopefully that'll be enough. Because otherwise.., you're going to get yourself and possibly everyone who uses your site fucked over.
Why would I get myself and others fucked over? They know the risk involved, just like anyone who joins SR, there is always a risk.
So what would you take as a cut %-wise from each sale and what would be the brackets?
As of right now, it's 5% for the first $1000 in a month, then after that it's 2.5% -- This is only like this until more income is generated. We will be doing quarterly assessments on my income from running this. It also depends on a lot of various other factors as well. Is this going to turn into a side project, or will it become a full time job? A lot of variables that have to be taken into consideration when answering this loaded question, but I do want to be fair, but also at the same time, make sure I'm compensated appropriately.
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... what did you post in place of my REDACTED statement?
Profiling, friend. Profiling. Frankly the fact that you asked is more disturbing to me than the slip.
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... what did you post in place of my REDACTED statement?
Profiling, friend. Profiling. Frankly the fact that you asked is more disturbing to me than the slip.
I didn't change anything of the post. It's a simple statement to a more simple remark.
Profiling? Seriously? All right... I guess we're all allowed our opinions.
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... You're making yourself a target. A big, big fucking target. And then you're telling people what you do for a living.
C'mon man. I know I'm more paranoid than most, but seriously. That's just not a good idea. It's an unnecessary risk. You must see that? When I quoted yoru post, I edited it out and put REDACTED in its place. I take it you didn't notice?
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I misunderstood the context. I mean, sure you're right, I just risked myself there. Good call, I'll give you that, however, how many people do they need to figure out with what was retracted to end up with a long list of everybody's.
My apologies, I simply misunderstood what you were referring to.
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I'm not trying to be unfair or give you a bad reputation here. I'm sorry if that's how I ended up -- but if you're gonna be "the guy," should get used to not having slips.
Good luck with the site; I mean that -- competition can't hurt. SR is great, but it could definitely do with some improving.
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I'm not trying to be unfair or give you a bad reputation here. I'm sorry if that's how I ended up -- but if you're gonna be "the guy," should get used to not having slips.
Good luck with the site; I mean that -- competition can't hurt. SR is great, but it could definitely do with some improving.
I'm not sure why I haven't responded to this earlier, but you do make a valid point. If I will end up being, "the guy", then I do need to cover my ass better in the future. But I also want to thank you, because I am human, I will make mistakes. Having people that can openly provide any kind of feedback, or suggestion to the smallest detail, or to a shaking point is an awesome way to make a secure market. So with every suggestion, I can look into things more appropriately to make a better, more secure market in the end. So +1
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Interesting thread so far....
I think a hacker should have at it and put your market to the test ;)
-Chubs
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Interesting thread so far....
I think a hacker should have at it and put your market to the test ;)
-Chubs
Well; how that does sound quite lovely, granted under certain restrictions as in, if it were an ethical hack. I just don't think too many out there would do it as an ethical hack. Besides the fact, that I'm saying this now, everything has a backup of a backup that's taken at random points daily. There are no bitcoins ever on this server, if it were to be comprimised the hacker would find no details, or steal anyone's money.
-Jimmy
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I have to say I'm surprised that SR is even letting this fly.
That's because no one is guarding the asylum. There are 3 admins and they only pop in once in a while to placate another conspiracy thread.
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Well, I'm glad to say we're up to 55 members thus far, only still a few vendors, (might have to remind the other SR vendors, who said they wanted on, time is of the essence.)
We're still awaiting the confirmation of our first vendor review, which I'm very happy about. Hopefully within the next 3-5 days, we should know, I'm assuming.
If anyone has any feedback on something, please do not hesitate to respond, I would like to resolve any security or any other potential problems, before we do get a lot bigger.
Thanks, another warm welcome to the new group of members to Snuj! :)
-Jimmy
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