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Title: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on November 15, 2012, 02:22 am
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Hello, i'm going to be comparing the quality of the current batches of meth from as many vendors that i can. I'm going to be buying an 8 ball afterwards, so i figured my thoughts might help the community. I will be sampling a quarter gram from each vendor. (If they are so kind.)
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International?

Currently the vendors i know of that ship internationaly are MMM and CrystalMethCat.
All other vendors ship domestically inside of USA.
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I want to clear some misunderstanding up. I rate this vendors based on price of their product to the quality of their product. For instance, i wouldn't be happy with paying 140 a gram for 80 gram product. I have seen people stating that it's impossible for everyone on my list to get a 5/5 when it comes to quality. Please keep in mind it's based on how well the product is vs price.

Vendors I'm interested in:
Hammertime
Drpvmd
Kush411
Glasshouse
AndOrUh
DarkExpresso
VladTepes
DubG
FirstClassFix
Basetap
AmericanGangsta07
Costco
Darkmoon
MMM
MasterCrash

If you are one of these vendors and we haven't communicated yet, please contact me if you're interested.

Vendors i have heard back from and are interested:
Hammertime (received)
DarkExpresso (received)
Kush411(received)
Drpvmd(received)
Glasshouse(They messaged me saying they are too low on stock at the moment. .)
AmericanGangsta07(received.)
Dark Moon (Received. I'll post review soon.)
chaletla (Recieved)
Format for review:
Vendor:
ROA:
Duration:
Quality:
Price:
Shipping time:
Packaging:
Customer Service:

These will be rated out of 5 out of 5. I'll average the result.
Any suggestions or questions are welcome. Have a wonderful day!


Vendor:darkexpresso

ROA:Smoked

Duration:5/5 2 to 4 hours (Come down was pretty easy on the body and mind.)


Quality:5/5 Very nice. Shards looked like glass, very clear. Crack backed correctly, fast, and  with good patterns. It passed the crush test. (No inconstant chunks etc, tiny shards that don't wanna break etc.) Massive dragon clouds upon exhale meaning little to no cut. Ran forever in the pipe. It had a very nice head high. Rushes of euphoria felt in the body, and a calm energy. (Energy didn't feel forced or jittery.) Lots of talking, thinking, and happiness.

Price:5/5 Asking price is around 140 a gram. I find this fair since the product is of high quality and vendor is on top of shipping.

Shipping time:5/5 Express. Arrived promptly.

Packaging:5/5 The packaging is great. Has something hiding the product from the outside world. Vacuum sealed.

Customer Service:5/5 Very communicative vendor that answered all my questions in a timely manner.

Total rating:5/5

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Vendor:Drpvmd

ROA:Smoked

Duration:2 to 3 hours (Come down was easy on body and mind.)

Quality:5/5Clear shards with a slight tint of white. Cracked back correctly, good patterns, runs nice. It passed the crush test.  The high is very rushy in the sense of a roller coaster rush. Massive waves of euphoria within the body. It feels like one hell of a ride and you're going to be doing something after you exhale. (Can be a little jittery if you don't have something to put your mind on.) Which can be good if you don't wanna hit the pipe all day. Some big clouds, but not quit there to call them dragon clouds. I forgot to mention this is the best  the doc has had yet.

Price:5/5 Asking price is around  110 a gram before shipping. It's worth it if you're looking for one hell of a rush!

Shipping time:5/5 3 days across the states.

Packaging:5/5Vacuum sealed, and great packaging.

Customer Service:5/5I've known drpvmd for a while and he's one of the fairest vendors i know and has always took great care of me as a customer.

Total Rating:5/5

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Vendor:Kush411

ROA:Smoked

Duration:3 to 5 hours

Quality:Clear shards like glass. Passed crush tests, crack back test, and runs. Great taste, thick smoke. Dragon clouds all day.  Great euphoria and smoothness. I didn't think that i was very high until i checked my pulse and i was at 180. Go slow guys, this stuff will sneak up on you. :) Wonderful rush with waves of euphoria and smiling. It reminded of me darkexpressos.

Price:140 before shipping.

Shipping time:4 days priority across the states. (I think it was a day or two late because of the holiday.)

Packaging:Amazing. The best packaging i have seen in my whole time on sr. (excluding some of the packaging i have seen for a weed vendor.) Don't have no worries on express. :)

Customer Service:Very communicative for the most part. Doesn't seem to chit chat more of a business man, but still polite.

Overall Rating:5/5

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Vendor:Hammertime

ROA:Smoked

Duration:2 to 3 hours

Quality:Passes crack back test, crush test, runs correctly. Clear shards with slight off white tint. Decent sized clouds. Pretty good taste, i would say this is the best hammertime batch yet. (His first batch was straight flame and this batch is on par with his first maybe better.) 5/5

Price:90 for a gram. 5/5

Shipping time:Insanely fast. Every order i have had he dropped in box that day. Normally i receive on time anywhere between 3 to 4 days. 5/5

Packaging:Great, i really like his packaging and i hope he continues to use this packaging. 5/5

Customer Service:Always responds within 24 hours. Is always polite and understanding. 5/5

Overall:5/5

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Vendor:OObAhs

ROA:Smoked

Duration:3 to 4 hours

Quality:Clear glass. Passed the crack back test, crush test, ran correctly. Baby dragon hits. Very strong rush that seemed jittery (That pseudo type of jittery.) at first but quickly smoothed into some nice euphoria. 5/5

Price:He doesn't sell by the gram but, it comes out to 80 a gram if he did sell grams. I find this price more than fair for the product.

Shipping time:4 days. 5/5

Packaging:Very unique packaging. Very smart idea on how it was bagged. My sample wasn't vacuum sealed with left me with some concern, but it made it so all is well.

Customer Service:I only spoke with him a few times, but he seems on top of customer service. 5/5

Overall:5/5

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Vendor:AmericanGangsta07

ROA:smoked

Duration:3 to 5 hours 5/5

Quality:clear glass. Spider webs passes crush test, dragon clouds. Very impressed :) 5/5

Price:I can't seem to find vendor page :/

Shipping time:express

Packaging:excellent. Very funny packaging. It literally had me laughing. 5/5

Customer Service:Seems like a funny guy, very professional and on the job. 5/5

Overall 5/5

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Vendor:Dark Moon
ROA:Smoked
Duration:3 to 4 hours. 5/5

Quality:Nice clear glass. Passed crush test. Ran nice, cracked back and no residue in the bowl. It had a nice rush, very jittery, reminds me of the drpvmd. It took me a moment to realize that my feet were bouncing up and down a little bit of sweat dropped down my forehead. It was very good at motivation towards tasks, and i believe it would be good for going to work on. As long as you didn't hit the bowl one last time. 5/5

Price:95 before shipping. I find this very fair since it reminded me very much of drpvmd. 5/5

Shipping time:4 days priority. 5/5

Packaging:Great packaging, vacuum seal, and an layer protecting it from the outside world. 5/5

Customer Service:Answered all my questions promptly. (I wanted to add the reason i believe that this vendor has a lower feedback score is because of his FE listings. If anyone has some bad feedback, please chime in.) 5/5

Overall 5/5

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vendor:chaletla

ROA:Smoked

Duration:2 to 3 hours.

Quality:Passes crack back test, crush test, runs correctly. Clear shards with slight off white tint. The size of clouds, and taste reminded me strongly of hammertime.

Price:Around 90 dollars for a gram. I find this fair price since, that is around what hammertime wants for a gram. The quality reminded me of hammertime. So hammertime might have some direct competition.

Shipping time:Priority 1 day across the states! I was very surprised when i found this pack in my box.

Packaging:Stealth except for one concern. (Surprisingly the same concern i had with hammertime's packaging when he first started. NO vacuum seal. Which  lead to moisture and possible detection through smell. I've spoke with the vendor and orders will be vacuum sealed from now on. My order was wet because of it raining the day of delivery which lead to wet product. I was able to dry it back out for the most part. :) )  Printed labels, if pack was ripped, it would still be protected from the outside of the world.

Customer Service:Answered all my messages very promptly.  Very polite. They addressed my concerns with packaging and all around was very understanding and i greatly appreciate it.

Overall 5/5.
So if you want rapid ship, quality product, and superb packaging then this is your vendor.
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Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: SelfSovereignty on November 15, 2012, 06:14 am
Psst... it's Kush411. I think Kush is actually a different vendor entirely, bro :)
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: clight on November 15, 2012, 11:27 pm
Format for review:
Vendor: Darkexpresso
ROA: 4
Duration: 4
Quality: 4
Price: 9
Shipping time: 9
Packaging: 5
Customer Service: 9

the 9's are for superb-ness
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: DubG on November 16, 2012, 12:22 am
Hello, i'm going to be comparing the quality of the current batches of meth from as many vendors that i can. I'm going to be buying an 8 ball afterwards, so i figured my thoughts might help the community. I will be sampling a quarter gram from each vendor. (If they are so kind.) 

Vendors I'm interested in:
Hammertime
Drpvmd
Kush411
Glasshouse
AndOrUh
DarkExpresso
VladTepes
DubG
FirstClassFix
Basetap

If you are one of these vendors and we haven't communicated yet, please contact me if you're interested.

Vendors i have heard back from and are intrested:
Hammertime
DarkExpresso


Format for review:
Vendor:
ROA:
Duration:
Quality:
Price:
Shipping time:
Packaging:
Customer Service:

These will be rated out of 5 out of 5. I'll average the result.
Any suggestions or questions are welcome. Have a wonderful day!

If I had a nickel or should I say carrot for everytime someone attempts this little scam. There is plenty of feedback on this site and SR from people who didn't receive several grams in free samples that I don't think I will take a bite out of this carrot.
Furthermore, if you get product from me you are unhappy with I will refund your money.
Vendors: don't fall for this.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: Vlad Tepes on November 16, 2012, 01:20 am
How do you plan to account for variables having nothing to do with the meth you are reviewing? For instance, your tolerance level when you begin testing will influence your reaction compared to previous meth highs. This may positively or negatively affect your reviews if you use previous highs as a basis for judging current ones. The second effect of the same variable is that unless you space out your highs and have the will to do so, each dose will obviously feel weaker than it would had it been one or more spots ahead in line. Finally, and by that I mean the final effect of just this one variable, tolerance, each vendor who signs up will create an increasingly discouraging disadvantage for the next one. I don't think any of us meth vendors would want, nor would many intelligent customers value a detailed review of our products if by the time you tested them, you had already jacked up your tolerance by going through several 1/4gs from competitors. I just can't see you giving totally unbiased reviews of 3+ vendors in enough time to buy 1/8 on Friday, even next Friday.

Then there's diet, exercise, personal preferences, other drugs taken, the placebo effect, etc. Even near-unbiased research can be very tricky, especially with only one test subject. I certainly don't expect you to submit your findings to the New England Journal of Medicine, but I would like to know how you plan to account for the common and more severely confounding variables. Some of this probably sounds like splitting hairs to people, so let me ask you this: When you're testing a bunch of vendors who supposedly sell extremely good meth, how can you compare the quality from the honest vendors without splitting hairs? Do you plan on ranking each vendor you review? That's the point of this, right? There's a big possibility that two or more samples are so similar as to be confounded by your margin for error. Such ranking would provide much less distinguishing, even inaccurate data while still appearing to provide clarity to passive readers. In short, I'd be more comfortable with this if your methods left very little room for error. If you just plan to separate the quacks from the ducks, well, don't we pretty much know that already? I have more than enough feedback on my meth for people to see that much and more.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on November 16, 2012, 01:51 am
Hello, i'm going to be comparing the quality of the current batches of meth from as many vendors that i can. I'm going to be buying an 8 ball afterwards, so i figured my thoughts might help the community. I will be sampling a quarter gram from each vendor. (If they are so kind.) 

Vendors I'm interested in:
Hammertime
Drpvmd
Kush411
Glasshouse
AndOrUh
DarkExpresso
VladTepes
DubG
FirstClassFix
Basetap

If you are one of these vendors and we haven't communicated yet, please contact me if you're interested.

Vendors i have heard back from and are intrested:
Hammertime
DarkExpresso


Format for review:
Vendor:
ROA:
Duration:
Quality:
Price:
Shipping time:
Packaging:
Customer Service:

These will be rated out of 5 out of 5. I'll average the result.
Any suggestions or questions are welcome. Have a wonderful day!

If I had a nickel or should I say carrot for everytime someone attempts this little scam. There is plenty of feedback on this site and SR from people who didn't receive several grams in free samples that I don't think I will take a bite out of this carrot.
Furthermore, if you get product from me you are unhappy with I will refund your money.
Vendors: don't fall for this.
Could you elaborate on how this is a scam?

How do you plan to account for variables having nothing to do with the meth you are reviewing? For instance, your tolerance level when you begin testing will influence your reaction compared to previous meth highs. This may positively or negatively affect your reviews if you use previous highs as a basis for judging current ones. The second effect of the same variable is that unless you space out your highs and have the will to do so, each dose will obviously feel weaker than it would had it been one or more spots ahead in line. Finally, and by that I mean the final effect of just this one variable, tolerance, each vendor who signs up will create an increasingly discouraging disadvantage for the next one. I don't think any of us meth vendors would want, nor would many intelligent customers value a detailed review of our products if by the time you tested them, you had already jacked up your tolerance by going through several 1/4gs from competitors. I just can't see you giving totally unbiased reviews of 3+ vendors in enough time to buy 1/8 on Friday, even next Friday.

Then there's diet, exercise, personal preferences, other drugs taken, the placebo effect, etc. Even near-unbiased research can be very tricky, especially with only one test subject. I certainly don't expect you to submit your findings to the New England Journal of Medicine, but I would like to know how you plan to account for the common and more severely confounding variables. Some of this probably sounds like splitting hairs to people, so let me ask you this: When you're testing a bunch of vendors who supposedly sell extremely good meth, how can you compare the quality from the honest vendors without splitting hairs? Do you plan on ranking each vendor you review? That's the point of this, right? There's a big possibility that two or more samples are so similar as to be confounded by your margin for error. Such ranking would provide much less distinguishing, even inaccurate data while still appearing to provide clarity to passive readers. In short, I'd be more comfortable with this if your methods left very little room for error. If you just plan to separate the quacks from the ducks, well, don't we pretty much know that already? I have more than enough feedback on my meth for people to see that much and more.
I've been taking a tolerance break for two weeks. I'm going to use one dose of the vendors sample on each day. Allowing myself to sleep at the night. (Possibly with the help of benzoids.) I understand that there are many variables when it comes to this. I'm trying to limit the amount of variables, but I'm only human. It's easy to point out the flaws in my method, but you couldn't mention one tips or any advice that could be constructive to this review being successful?
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: Vlad Tepes on November 16, 2012, 02:12 am
Hello, i'm going to be comparing the quality of the current batches of meth from as many vendors that i can. I'm going to be buying an 8 ball afterwards, so i figured my thoughts might help the community. I will be sampling a quarter gram from each vendor. (If they are so kind.) 

Vendors I'm interested in:
Hammertime
Drpvmd
Kush411
Glasshouse
AndOrUh
DarkExpresso
VladTepes
DubG
FirstClassFix
Basetap

If you are one of these vendors and we haven't communicated yet, please contact me if you're interested.

Vendors i have heard back from and are intrested:
Hammertime
DarkExpresso


Format for review:
Vendor:
ROA:
Duration:
Quality:
Price:
Shipping time:
Packaging:
Customer Service:

These will be rated out of 5 out of 5. I'll average the result.
Any suggestions or questions are welcome. Have a wonderful day!
How do you plan to account for variables having nothing to do with the meth you are reviewing? For instance, your tolerance level when you begin testing will influence your reaction compared to previous meth highs. This may positively or negatively affect your reviews if you use previous highs as a basis for judging current ones. The second effect of the same variable is that unless you space out your highs and have the will to do so, each dose will obviously feel weaker than it would had it been one or more spots ahead in line. Finally, and by that I mean the final effect of just this one variable, tolerance, each vendor who signs up will create an increasingly discouraging disadvantage for the next one. I don't think any of us meth vendors would want, nor would many intelligent customers value a detailed review of our products if by the time you tested them, you had already jacked up your tolerance by going through several 1/4gs from competitors. I just can't see you giving totally unbiased reviews of 3+ vendors in enough time to buy 1/8 on Friday, even next Friday.

Then there's diet, exercise, personal preferences, other drugs taken, the placebo effect, etc. Even near-unbiased research can be very tricky, especially with only one test subject. I certainly don't expect you to submit your findings to the New England Journal of Medicine, but I would like to know how you plan to account for the common and more severely confounding variables. Some of this probably sounds like splitting hairs to people, so let me ask you this: When you're testing a bunch of vendors who supposedly sell extremely good meth, how can you compare the quality from the honest vendors without splitting hairs? Do you plan on ranking each vendor you review? That's the point of this, right? There's a big possibility that two or more samples are so similar as to be confounded by your margin for error. Such ranking would provide much less distinguishing, even inaccurate data while still appearing to provide clarity to passive readers. In short, I'd be more comfortable with this if your methods left very little room for error. If you just plan to separate the quacks from the ducks, well, don't we pretty much know that already? I have more than enough feedback on my meth for people to see that much and more.
I've been taking a tolerance break for two weeks. I'm going to use one dose of the vendors sample on each day. Allowing myself to sleep at the night. (Possibly with the help of benzoids.) I understand that there are many variables when it comes to this. I'm trying to limit the amount of variables, but I'm only human. It's easy to point out the flaws in my method, but you couldn't mention one tips or any advice that could be constructive to this review being successful?
Hahaha, wait, you're serious. Tips? Advice? I thought you'd be able to see for yourself from my last post. You understand the variables? Prove it! Your methods are poorly described if you do plan on making this unbiased. You want my confidence? Tell me what you plan to do in detail without me having to hold your hand. If I have to tell you how to account for the simple things I described previously, then I don't trust the accuracy of your work.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: MeccaLand on November 16, 2012, 02:27 am
Jesus, calm it Vlad. He wants to review some meth. What's the big problem?
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: organon on November 16, 2012, 02:39 am
If this is to be done correctly it would simply take a long time. You would need to be able to test and know your body had restored to the exact same place for second and subsequent test that it was at when you took the first dose from the first vendor...you can't do multiple ROA's you need to be doing the exact same method of induction for all vendors. You should also following the exact same, sleep, eating and hydration schedule for each test and take the product at the exact same time of day for each. Eliminate every variable and keep the control of the experiment as tight as possible.  This would be a great thing to do but needs someone with some good understanding of a rigorous scientific method and biology and pharmacology (sorry can't spell) to do it.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: DreDri on November 16, 2012, 04:12 am
Tweakers gon' tweak.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: Vlad Tepes on November 16, 2012, 02:51 pm
Jesus, calm it Vlad. He wants to review some meth. What's the big problem?
Says the user trying to get in on sniper123s free samples. Anyway, the problem is quite simple. I find it very offensive when I give somebody damn good advice and they take part of it and then deny that I contributed to the review, all in the same post. That is chicken shit! >:( He wants a free 1/4gram, he better be more specific than ROA, duration, and quality. Such vague parameters could easily provide useless data, as I said previously. Also, do you seriously think even with a good night sleep, he'll have the same tolerance each passing day he consumes 1/4g?

Since apparently I haven't been clear enough, read this ADVICE which I already gave you, sniper123, and you rudely denied it: If you want to make a valuable review contribution beyond what our customers already give us, your research needs to be precise, detailed, and as unbiased as possible. Pointing out your flaws IS ADVICE. It will make your reviews better, more credible, and you'd get more bites from vendors. You say you'll try to limit the variables, yet that isn't what I told you at all. Strictly limit confounding variables so the variables we are interested in are reviewed accurately. That means anything potentially affecting your experience that isn't caused by the quality of the meth should be nullified. If you really don't experience tolerance with daily recreational doses of methamphetamine (I highly doubt it) then that would nullify the confounding tolerance variable. Does listing ROA, duration, and quality cut it based on the ADVICE I gave you? Hell no. Do the math. This is how you said you'd do it. I tell you what would make it better. What do you do? Where's the advice? 1+1=? I'll tell you, again. 1+1=be specific and comprehensive about your methods. Be unbiased and transparent. Demonstrate that you know enough to collect accurate data without me watching over your back. Prove that you're more than/other than desperate for free meth. If you have a problem with my attitude, don't be so ignorant and ungrateful. It's that simple. I really hope that was just a presumptuous oversight on your part, although if you really still think my first post didn't help the topic, then sincerely fuck off. :P Otherwise, thank you for understanding and I'll gladly send you a sample when you can show us that you know what you're doing.
Tweakers gon' tweak.
This is a perfect example of an utterly useless post. If DreDri knew how to read, he'd plainly see, even previous to this post, that I have a very good reason to be pissed. Not only can't he read, he also thinks his poorly conceived opinion is worth repeating. Like inept research methods, if you can't read, your interpretation of writing is worthless. Sorry, but I'm absolutely sick of ego-tripping, burnt out tweakers acting like I'm out of line. These aren't tough concepts to grasp. I'm posting useful, relevant information that contributes and builds upon some of the other informed responses and the guy who thinks I'm tweaking spends his time contributing absolute garbage, wasted space and time for anyone who bothers to read it. Bravo! I'll take rightfully angry knowledge over calm piles of bullshit all day long.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: Dark Moon on November 16, 2012, 03:17 pm
Haha. This is cute. Now I see why I never get on here. I get enough of these offers to my inbox on SR.
DubG you shouldn't even have wasted your energy replying. Hell I shouldn't even be replying.
First off it doesn't matter what you think about it with your review.
Why? you ask? None of us need anymore customers. If you really want to contribute purchase an oz from all of those people you listed and become a vendor yourself. It's funny you leave me off the list seeing how I am offering a quarter gram sample for $20. Oh wait that isn't free. Get a job you bum. LOL
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: DubG on November 16, 2012, 03:29 pm
Jesus, calm it Vlad. He wants to review some meth. What's the big problem?

His goal is not to review some meth, his goal is to get a free sample from all the meth vendors under the guise of conducting a review!!

There isn't a week go by that I don't get several of these similar requests. There is more than enough information available for customers to make their decisions.

DubG
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: 123ABC on November 16, 2012, 04:47 pm
I need to add you, DubG back into my meth vendor rotation! I'm gonna definately get that order I recently cancelled with you back in place likely next week when my other mail arrives.

Hopefully I get the sample from you I paid for Dark Moon too.

I currently rotate between about 3 meth vendors. I just need to sort my shit and get you mother fuckers into a slot..

Internationally, I look at mainly speed of delivery over multiple orders and want to be in transit within generally 48 hours. Anything that takes more than 14 days doesn't sit that well, when the 3 I currently use are generally <- 14 days or less. Shit happens from time to time and I go with the flow, but I need meth.

ABC
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: clight on November 16, 2012, 11:07 pm
Best way to get free samples is to pay for some orders and get bumped weight in the future.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on November 16, 2012, 11:28 pm
Jesus, calm it Vlad. He wants to review some meth. What's the big problem?
Says the user trying to get in on sniper123s free samples. Anyway, the problem is quite simple. I find it very offensive when I give somebody damn good advice and they take part of it and then deny that I contributed to the review, all in the same post. That is chicken shit! >:( He wants a free 1/4gram, he better be more specific than ROA, duration, and quality. Such vague parameters could easily provide useless data, as I said previously. Also, do you seriously think even with a good night sleep, he'll have the same tolerance each passing day he consumes 1/4g?

Since apparently I haven't been clear enough, read this ADVICE which I already gave you, sniper123, and you rudely denied it: If you want to make a valuable review contribution beyond what our customers already give us, your research needs to be precise, detailed, and as unbiased as possible. Pointing out your flaws IS ADVICE. It will make your reviews better, more credible, and you'd get more bites from vendors. You say you'll try to limit the variables, yet that isn't what I told you at all. Strictly limit confounding variables so the variables we are interested in are reviewed accurately. That means anything potentially affecting your experience that isn't caused by the quality of the meth should be nullified. If you really don't experience tolerance with daily recreational doses of methamphetamine (I highly doubt it) then that would nullify the confounding tolerance variable. Does listing ROA, duration, and quality cut it based on the ADVICE I gave you? Hell no. Do the math. This is how you said you'd do it. I tell you what would make it better. What do you do? Where's the advice? 1+1=? I'll tell you, again. 1+1=be specific and comprehensive about your methods. Be unbiased and transparent. Demonstrate that you know enough to collect accurate data without me watching over your back. Prove that you're more than/other than desperate for free meth. If you have a problem with my attitude, don't be so ignorant and ungrateful. It's that simple. I really hope that was just a presumptuous oversight on your part, although if you really still think my first post didn't help the topic, then sincerely fuck off. :P Otherwise, thank you for understanding and I'll gladly send you a sample when you can show us that you know what you're doing.
Tweakers gon' tweak.
This is a perfect example of an utterly useless post. If DreDri knew how to read, he'd plainly see, even previous to this post, that I have a very good reason to be pissed. Not only can't he read, he also thinks his poorly conceived opinion is worth repeating. Like inept research methods, if you can't read, your interpretation of writing is worthless. Sorry, but I'm absolutely sick of ego-tripping, burnt out tweakers acting like I'm out of line. These aren't tough concepts to grasp. I'm posting useful, relevant information that contributes and builds upon some of the other informed responses and the guy who thinks I'm tweaking spends his time contributing absolute garbage, wasted space and time for anyone who bothers to read it. Bravo! I'll take rightfully angry knowledge over calm piles of bullshit all day long.
I've re read your post a few times and i see your point of view. I'm going to be more specific with the procedure I'm going to be using down to the exact specifications you have listed above. I've been researching certain types of food as well as vitamins and amino acids that can hinder or increase the high of meth. I should of been more specific. I do not intend to consume the full sample in one session, or in one day. I'm still working on the dosage i want to go with. I'm thinking 25 to 50mgs twice a day. After the second dose has been consumed, no more will be consumed within 24 hours of last dose. This will allow me to detoxify as well to allow myself to sleep. I will also be eating three meals a day. (Full meals including proper nutrition based from the food pyramid.) Also excising for 30 minutes three times a day. Once 24 hours have passed since last dose and i have slept. I'll move onto the next sample using the same method of dosage, sleep, and diet. Once, i have made my way through all the samples. I'll then begin back at the first sample and use the same dosage, diet, and sleep. (I think this will help me gauge the strength of the meth vs my tolerance.) Also same ROA will be used. I still haven't decided IV or Smoking. I think IVing might be my best option since none will be wasted like  smoking. I'll update more and go more in detail once i return from work.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: toejammer on November 17, 2012, 06:49 pm
as i sit and read this one thing comes to mind.. By the time all these reviews are IN and one vendor has "better" gear than the other based on this scale by the time we get to ordering.. If we do... as most have already deep ties to specific vendors and changing adds another layer of speculation.. But all change is good, The said vendor, as it ALWAYS happens, gets a DIFFERENT batch to distribute so the review becomes NULL and void and this whole thing becomes,,,, besides a fun exercise for the reviewer..........pointless....  I think the METH review thread does a very stand up job keeping those who want to know a little bit about what the vendors are slanging at the current time. I would suggest that u take your scale and......... LOL.. WAIT.. HERE IT COMES..


TAKE YOUR SCALE AND slide it over to the meth thread!  ;)

here is the part where i think out loud....

Just post there why throw it into your own little bubble where lots of people dont really look. And why pick a ROI that most dont adopt.. There is railing hot railing and smoking,. which seem to be the norm.. There are few that IV.. That being said. Once u start this "RATING SYSTEM" and people see that u are posting this in a way that becomes more "CLINICAL" and less of a flow or experience then it may become a standard...which would be i think your ultimate goal.. Correct?? Or what is your ultimate goal.. Just to try a .25 from each person and then take your money and get a what... 8ball.... All this... just so at the end of the day u can get an 8ball... I think we just broke it down... Tel u what save your time energy and money or i see the free thing getting thrown about jsut buy an 8ball from one of the above vendors and i bet u will be happy with basically what u get. The difference is coing to be minimal.. I think.. Or at least i know for me. It is. one may be "BETTER" than the other but its what u got and u know what its the best for now.. So fuck it. I got an 8ball.. Now go thru that 8 and get another u know what get 4.5 g's then move to something larger.. U know what.. I bet u get a free .25 thrown in there and maybe even a price break... U know what order some more and throw the vendor one day an extra 50 bucks.. Y??? y cause they are taking care of u and u wanna say thanks man.. U know what one day they might just throw u a g..Hell maybe even 2...... Then u just got your connect u are always happy with what u are getting and the vendor only make SURE u get the best of the best and its a nice happy relationship. One hand washes he other.

enough of this rant.. Just my .02.

Best on your journey! Lookin' forward to seeing how it all plays out.


Vendors.. Damn man people asking for free shit?? ballz i tell u BALLZ.. hey phone company.. gimme some free service for a month i dont wanna sign nothing just give it to me so i can see if i like it.. if not i will just go somewhere else.. Yeah that's gonna work....U should always say SURE i will send u some free shit.. Here is some powered sugar. Go frost a cake!

seems i dipped to far into my 18g's i got the other day.. Better lay back...

Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on November 25, 2012, 02:59 am
as i sit and read this one thing comes to mind.. By the time all these reviews are IN and one vendor has "better" gear than the other based on this scale by the time we get to ordering.. If we do... as most have already deep ties to specific vendors and changing adds another layer of speculation.. But all change is good, The said vendor, as it ALWAYS happens, gets a DIFFERENT batch to distribute so the review becomes NULL and void and this whole thing becomes,,,, besides a fun exercise for the reviewer..........pointless....  I think the METH review thread does a very stand up job keeping those who want to know a little bit about what the vendors are slanging at the current time. I would suggest that u take your scale and......... LOL.. WAIT.. HERE IT COMES..


TAKE YOUR SCALE AND slide it over to the meth thread!  ;)

here is the part where i think out loud....

Just post there why throw it into your own little bubble where lots of people dont really look. And why pick a ROI that most dont adopt.. There is railing hot railing and smoking,. which seem to be the norm.. There are few that IV.. That being said. Once u start this "RATING SYSTEM" and people see that u are posting this in a way that becomes more "CLINICAL" and less of a flow or experience then it may become a standard...which would be i think your ultimate goal.. Correct?? Or what is your ultimate goal.. Just to try a .25 from each person and then take your money and get a what... 8ball.... All this... just so at the end of the day u can get an 8ball... I think we just broke it down... Tel u what save your time energy and money or i see the free thing getting thrown about jsut buy an 8ball from one of the above vendors and i bet u will be happy with basically what u get. The difference is coing to be minimal.. I think.. Or at least i know for me. It is. one may be "BETTER" than the other but its what u got and u know what its the best for now.. So fuck it. I got an 8ball.. Now go thru that 8 and get another u know what get 4.5 g's then move to something larger.. U know what.. I bet u get a free .25 thrown in there and maybe even a price break... U know what order some more and throw the vendor one day an extra 50 bucks.. Y??? y cause they are taking care of u and u wanna say thanks man.. U know what one day they might just throw u a g..Hell maybe even 2...... Then u just got your connect u are always happy with what u are getting and the vendor only make SURE u get the best of the best and its a nice happy relationship. One hand washes he other.

enough of this rant.. Just my .02.

Best on your journey! Lookin' forward to seeing how it all plays out.


Vendors.. Damn man people asking for free shit?? ballz i tell u BALLZ.. hey phone company.. gimme some free service for a month i dont wanna sign nothing just give it to me so i can see if i like it.. if not i will just go somewhere else.. Yeah that's gonna work....U should always say SURE i will send u some free shit.. Here is some powered sugar. Go frost a cake!

seems i dipped to far into my 18g's i got the other day.. Better lay back...
The reason I'm doing my own thread is so people can easily find information on the vendors instead of having to read page by page looking on the meth thread.  Don't get me wrong I've spent many nights thwacked reading that whole thread. I've read every single page. No was in hell i could of done that sober and i don't expect the average person to have the patients to either just to find a one liner or vague information on someone's product. (Example. So and so had good product. Or So and so didn't have good product.) How can one draw their own conclusions from such little data. That's without taking into consideration that everyone is different and every is going to favor a certain vendor because they personally like that type of meth better or like the vendor better.

If you think that my intention of this thread was to get free meth. You've miss understood the whole point of what I'm doing here. At one point in you're reply you compliment me in trying to change the way drugs are reviewed as a whole on the threads, but then you turn around and make it sound like I'm a junkie trying to score my next fix. There are wine testers that aren't alcoholics, people who review food but don't suffer from obesity.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: goldfibre1 on November 27, 2012, 01:51 pm
Thanks and a big shout out to Sniper123 for starting this thread.  I think it's only a plus for the meth community.  If you trust Sniper, you'll like this thread.  I personally feel he has a wealth of knowledge to share on this particular subject and I value his opinion.  Totally up to you but I think we should support the education of ourselves on any drug we do and encourage the sharing of information.  +1 kudos to Sniper.

Just as an aside, how would one go about "ranking" vendors and perhaps giving a "larger spread" to the ranking system if you get my drift?  I think if you do something like a 1 to 100 so that if the majority of vendors are in the 5/5 category you'll know if it's an 85 out of 100 or a 95 out of a 100.  And also do an overall ranking of the vendors.  Adding a timeline to the review events would also help.  I'm sure this will evolve over time and you can continue to add different attributes to parse so I think we should all be open minded and accepting if someone is going through all the trouble of sharing their information with everyone as I'm sure it is very time consuming in addition to financially impactful.  I think that is very admirable.

Thanks again,

peace, G

Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: mindbgone on December 02, 2012, 06:41 am
I created this fake account just to say this I read every post on here and this is ridiculous personally even if I wasn't a chemist it would be pathetic. If I was a customer I would like to know more about the % of purity/cut ratio there are test to run to find out if you want to come on here claiming you will give a fair and honest opinion on your findings then that would be the way to start. Customers do need to understand you will not get pure most of the time unless you are the chemist that cooks and recrystallizes the Meth but with that being said still you can give a honest opinion on the cut ratio for example if it turns anything but yellow/light brown then its trash for as glass is concerned. Most customers before they order or who have previously ordered would just like to know that the meth isn't cut 50-75% or more.

You can look at the shards and tell if its cut if you know what you are doing my personal opinion from just looking Kush411 and a few other people on here seem to have close to pure; snorting dope will not tell you anything you need to do a proper burn test also a % test on the purity most street level is on avg 40-60% mainly because of the cut such as MSM found in the meth.


ALSO QUIT BEING A BUM AND ASKING FOR FREE SAMPLES FROM EVERYONE ITS TIME/MONEY AND RISK PUT INTO THIS GIVE THEM THERE PROPER DUE IF YOU GET DONE WRONG JUST DON'T USE THAT VENDER ITS THAT SIMPLE!


Meth is meth if its pure but other than that nothing matters!
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on December 09, 2012, 02:52 pm
I created this fake account just to say this I read every post on here and this is ridiculous personally even if I wasn't a chemist it would be pathetic. If I was a customer I would like to know more about the % of purity/cut ratio there are test to run to find out if you want to come on here claiming you will give a fair and honest opinion on your findings then that would be the way to start. Customers do need to understand you will not get pure most of the time unless you are the chemist that cooks and recrystallizes the Meth but with that being said still you can give a honest opinion on the cut ratio for example if it turns anything but yellow/light brown then its trash for as glass is concerned. Most customers before they order or who have previously ordered would just like to know that the meth isn't cut 50-75% or more.

You can look at the shards and tell if its cut if you know what you are doing my personal opinion from just looking Kush411 and a few other people on here seem to have close to pure; snorting dope will not tell you anything you need to do a proper burn test also a % test on the purity most street level is on avg 40-60% mainly because of the cut such as MSM found in the meth.


ALSO QUIT BEING A BUM AND ASKING FOR FREE SAMPLES FROM EVERYONE ITS TIME/MONEY AND RISK PUT INTO THIS GIVE THEM THERE PROPER DUE IF YOU GET DONE WRONG JUST DON'T USE THAT VENDER ITS THAT SIMPLE!


Meth is meth if its pure but other than that nothing matters!
You took the time to create an account to troll my thread? Haha. :) I posted above if residue was found. Luckily, of the samples i tried i didn't find in consistent residue. No black, no brown, or yellow. Looks can always be deceiving when it comes to ice. That's why i like using the crush test because some really pretty ice I've got off the street wouldn't break down fully. As i examined closer i could see two different types of dope. The foggy looking part would create a yucky taste, and brown residue that was extremely hard to clean. The other which was more clear, no fog in the shards. Ran clean, no residue, and gave a decent high.

I understand that people are going to get upset over samples. If a vendor chooses to give samples that is their choice. I've been turned down many times on samples. If told no, i don't ask again. I'm not begging for samples as others seem to believe. I understand that it's easy to paint me as a bum who smokes meth all day, has no shoes, car, or job, but has a full pipe. Doesn't sound that bad of a life to me. :D My point is that there is a need for product reviews. It helps in providing with the information that they need to determine if the purchase if for them.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: GORDENRAMSEY on December 20, 2012, 03:42 am
Why even take your reviews serious when EVERYONE GETS A 5 OUT OF FIVE
Kinda like send me a sample and everyone gets a trophy philosophy
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on December 20, 2012, 03:46 am
Why even take your reviews serious when EVERYONE GETS A 5 OUT OF FIVE
Kinda like send me a sample and everyone gets a trophy philosophy
I rated quality to price. There is a reason why certain vendors have cheaper prices. If i paid 140 for a 80 dollar gram, then they would get a low score on quality. Obviously 140 gram is better when it comes to how much is needed for desired effects. I don't have to smoke as much out a 140 gram like i do off a 80 dollar gram. If you would of read the second paragraph, you would of understood what was going on there.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: puppydog on December 23, 2012, 05:39 pm
So if I'm following this post correctly this guy is getting free shit sent to him and thinks he can just get spun out and then talk shit about weather or not he thinks it's any good????
What vendor in their right mind would give away free dope? Seems counter productive to me. This is like the welfare recipients complaining about their free food!

HOW ABOUT THIS ONE????  ANY VENDORS OUT THERE SEND ME FREE SAMPLES AD I WILL "TEST" YOUR GEAR AND GIVE YOU LOTS OF CREDIT IN THE FORUMS???
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: edar on December 23, 2012, 06:25 pm
So if I'm following this post correctly this guy is getting free shit sent to him and thinks he can just get spun out and then talk shit about weather or not he thinks it's any good????
What vendor in their right mind would give away free dope? Seems counter productive to me. This is like the welfare recipients complaining about their free food!

HOW ABOUT THIS ONE????  ANY VENDORS OUT THERE SEND ME FREE SAMPLES AD I WILL "TEST" YOUR GEAR AND GIVE YOU LOTS OF CREDIT IN THE FORUMS???
any weed  ;D
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: Nod with the bitchin tar on December 23, 2012, 07:27 pm
Sniper,

Thanks a bunch for creating this threat. Whoever suggested this is a scam is wrong, you are adding a service for the better vendors to differentiate themselves for for customers and for the customers to make an informed decision.

The 1/4gm that each vendor is donating is trivial.  I thought about asking if you would review mine, I know very little about meth so I need some expert advise. I have a chemist friend who's going to educate me but honestly emperical testing is darned important.

My point is, the cost of sending you 1/4gm of free product to get it rated against others on here is a bargain compared to stuff like lab test which nobody would believe anyway.

If this were a scam it would show up as one vendor being heavily favored over the others.  That's not what I'm seeing in the results here, I see good solid competition which indicates this is a legitimate test.

Kudos!



Hello, i'm going to be comparing the quality of the current batches of meth from as many vendors that i can. I'm going to be buying an 8 ball afterwards, so i figured my thoughts might help the community. I will be sampling a quarter gram from each vendor. (If they are so kind.) 

Vendors I'm interested in:
Hammertime
Drpvmd
Kush411
Glasshouse
AndOrUh
DarkExpresso
VladTepes
DubG
FirstClassFix
Basetap

If you are one of these vendors and we haven't communicated yet, please contact me if you're interested.

Vendors i have heard back from and are intrested:
Hammertime
DarkExpresso


Format for review:
Vendor:
ROA:
Duration:
Quality:
Price:
Shipping time:
Packaging:
Customer Service:

These will be rated out of 5 out of 5. I'll average the result.
Any suggestions or questions are welcome. Have a wonderful day!
If I had a nickel or should I say carrot for everytime someone attempts this little scam. There is plenty of feedback on this site and SR from people who didn't receive several grams in free samples that I don't think I will take a bite out of this carrot.
Furthermore, if you get product from me you are unhappy with I will refund your money.
Vendors: don't fall for this.
Could you elaborate on how this is a scam?

How do you plan to account for variables having nothing to do with the meth you are reviewing? For instance, your tolerance level when you begin testing will influence your reaction compared to previous meth highs. This may positively or negatively affect your reviews if you use previous highs as a basis for judging current ones. The second effect of the same variable is that unless you space out your highs and have the will to do so, each dose will obviously feel weaker than it would had it been one or more spots ahead in line. Finally, and by that I mean the final effect of just this one variable, tolerance, each vendor who signs up will create an increasingly discouraging disadvantage for the next one. I don't think any of us meth vendors would want, nor would many intelligent customers value a detailed review of our products if by the time you tested them, you had already jacked up your tolerance by going through several 1/4gs from competitors. I just can't see you giving totally unbiased reviews of 3+ vendors in enough time to buy 1/8 on Friday, even next Friday.

Then there's diet, exercise, personal preferences, other drugs taken, the placebo effect, etc. Even near-unbiased research can be very tricky, especially with only one test subject. I certainly don't expect you to submit your findings to the New England Journal of Medicine, but I would like to know how you plan to account for the common and more severely confounding variables. Some of this probably sounds like splitting hairs to people, so let me ask you this: When you're testing a bunch of vendors who supposedly sell extremely good meth, how can you compare the quality from the honest vendors without splitting hairs? Do you plan on ranking each vendor you review? That's the point of this, right? There's a big possibility that two or more samples are so similar as to be confounded by your margin for error. Such ranking would provide much less distinguishing, even inaccurate data while still appearing to provide clarity to passive readers. In short, I'd be more comfortable with this if your methods left very little room for error. If you just plan to separate the quacks from the ducks, well, don't we pretty much know that already? I have more than enough feedback on my meth for people to see that much and more.
I've been taking a tolerance break for two weeks. I'm going to use one dose of the vendors sample on each day. Allowing myself to sleep at the night. (Possibly with the help of benzoids.) I understand that there are many variables when it comes to this. I'm trying to limit the amount of variables, but I'm only human. It's easy to point out the flaws in my method, but you couldn't mention one tips or any advice that could be constructive to this review being successful?
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: ralph123 on December 23, 2012, 07:39 pm
hey sniper how's it going man? Yea there's always gonna be haters. They just mad because they didn't think of it first
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: fractalglobal on December 23, 2012, 07:56 pm
I know I'm kinda beating a dead horse here, but this thread is absurd.  From what I gather, OP has very little knowledge of chemistry, and he's pretty much admitted that this will be a subjective, qualitative review.  This becomes even more evident when one reads the reviews in question.  How the hell does giving every vendor a 5/5 help customers in ANY way whatsoever?  Your posts regarding how you will deal with tolerance buildup are equally as absurd, contrary to popular belief, eating well and going for a 20 minute run every day does not constitute a good regimen for preventing physiological tolerance, not to mention that it does precisely fuck all for psychological tolerance.  You have provided absolutely no evidence that you are capable of running any sort of unbias review, and as a result, the review that ended up being posted was predictably mindless drivel.

Here's a cool idea, send me free samples too.  I can at least separate most cutting agents to get an idea of purity. 
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on December 25, 2012, 08:12 pm
Updated international details, as well as added two vendors.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: fractalglobal on December 26, 2012, 07:55 am
Any word on when you are going to give a rating of less than 5/5?
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on December 26, 2012, 08:01 am
Any word on when you are going to give a rating of less than 5/5?
Yeah, if someone sends me bad product, or packaging that makes me loose a pack, or i believe is selective scamming. Have you personally gave a feedback rating lower than 5/5 on the road? If you seek a vendor that has lower than 5/5 overall. I can't give you the name of that vendor that you seek. You might find them yourself.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: Wadozo on December 26, 2012, 08:10 am
fractalglobal, if you find the thread absurd, MOVE ON!  Fuck, stop whinging and find another thread your interested in. If sniper123 wants to run this thread and give his opinions on what he finds from testing a variety of Meth from numerous vendors, then leave him be to do so. There is an abundance of threads ready for your posts fractalglobal.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: nomad bloodbath on December 26, 2012, 08:35 am
I've reviewed every vendor on thaT LIST WITH THE EXCEPTION OF dubg WHICH HE REFUSED TO SELL ME A HALF GRAM FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON, BUT TO THE POINT ALL THOSE VENDORS HAVE DIFFERENT BATCHES NOW.
There's only one vendor of Methamphetamine I know that has the exact same batch from the same cook everytime and he's not even on the list, he runs stealth.

Window of reality for this thread was over before it began.

X)
nomad
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on December 26, 2012, 09:07 am
I've reviewed every vendor on thaT LIST WITH THE EXCEPTION OF dubg WHICH HE REFUSED TO SELL ME A HALF GRAM FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON, BUT TO THE POINT ALL THOSE VENDORS HAVE DIFFERENT BATCHES NOW.
There's only one vendor of Methamphetamine I know that has the exact same batch from the same cook everytime and he's not even on the list, he runs stealth.

Window of reality for this thread was over before it began.

X)
nomad
Thanks for stopping in on my thread nomad. If you could be kind enough to disclose that vendor to me in private and I'll keep them private. That would be fantastic. I'm going to throw you some coin towards your mod fund when i get paid this Friday since you work so hard here on the threads. Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: fractalglobal on December 26, 2012, 09:33 am
fractalglobal, if you find the thread absurd, MOVE ON!  Fuck, stop whinging and find another thread your interested in. If sniper123 wants to run this thread and give his opinions on what he finds from testing a variety of Meth from numerous vendors, then leave him be to do so. There is an abundance of threads ready for your posts fractalglobal.

I don't have any problem with someone posting their opinion on a variety of meth vendors, thats why there is a collaborated "meth quality" thread that is well over 300 pages long.

Making a new thread with the perceived intention of giving people accurate comparitive analysis of product and services by vendors, and then proceeding to give a completely useless review which makes it impossible to distinguish between vendors however, basically tells me that he's fishing for samples in exchange for advertisement rather than giving any sort of real feedback.

@Sniper123: Yes, I give vendors a feedback rating based on the 1-5 system which I believe to be both fair and accurate.  I've given several 2/3/4's, and very few 5's.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on December 26, 2012, 09:38 am
fractalglobal, if you find the thread absurd, MOVE ON!  Fuck, stop whinging and find another thread your interested in. If sniper123 wants to run this thread and give his opinions on what he finds from testing a variety of Meth from numerous vendors, then leave him be to do so. There is an abundance of threads ready for your posts fractalglobal.

I don't have any problem with someone posting their opinion on a variety of meth vendors, thats why there is a collaborated "meth quality" thread that is well over 300 pages long.

Making a new thread with the perceived intention of giving people accurate comparitive analysis of product and services by vendors, and then proceeding to give a completely useless review which makes it impossible to distinguish between vendors however, basically tells me that he's fishing for samples in exchange for advertisement rather than giving any sort of real feedback.

@Sniper123: Yes, I give vendors a feedback rating based on the 1-5 system which I believe to be both fair and accurate.  I've given several 2/3/4's, and very few 5's.
Well, if i was a vendor i wouldn't vend to you. I would imagine there are a handful of vendors that would agree with me on this. These vendors all provided better quality than what can be found on most street corners. I think sometimes people become spoiled by the road. When was the last time you acquired product from local sources? Also, the meth thread is extremely long. If someone wanted to find a review of each vendor they would have to read at least a forth of the entire thread. I've personally read every page.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: fractalglobal on December 26, 2012, 10:48 am
You seem to have missed the point of the rating system.  The system isn't designed to compare your SR experience vs 'buying on the street' experience, its to compare individual vendors ON The Silk Road.

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Well, if i was a vendor i wouldn't vend to you. I would imagine there are a handful of vendors that would agree with me on this
Indeed, however this is of no concern to me.  If vendors want a perfect rating, they should provide an experience which is deserving of a perfect rating.  Be it in customer service, or the quality of the product being offered.  If I order LSD, and I get N-BOME, you can be guaranteed I won't give the vendor a 5/5 just because its the expected thing to do.

To answer your other question, I have never purchased from a local dealer, before using SR, I would just cook whatever I wanted at the time.  Unfortunately I started moving around and sold off my glassware hence why I now purchase here.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: alicia on December 26, 2012, 11:05 am
doesnt CrystalKing ship internationally? and wasnt he formerly known as AmericanGangsta and Frankiewhite?

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d221039209
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: Wadozo on December 26, 2012, 11:51 am
doesnt CrystalKing ship internationally? and wasnt he formerly known as AmericanGangsta and Frankiewhite?

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d221039209

Yes, he does. Yes, he was, a business name of AmericanGangsta07 and a fictitious character, Frankiewhite. This vendor still doesn't have a PGP Public Key after all this time, so buyer's can send their info encrypted, and he hasn't learned how to use the PGP software to firstly decrypt buyer's messages and send you an encrypted message should you request it. Frankie, it's nothing against your gear or customer service but this a major security issue you really need to address now.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on December 26, 2012, 12:16 pm
doesnt CrystalKing ship internationally? and wasnt he formerly known as AmericanGangsta and Frankiewhite?

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d221039209

Yes, he does. Yes, he was, a business name of AmericanGangsta07 and a fictitious character, Frankiewhite. This vendor still doesn't have a PGP Public Key after all this time, so buyer's can send their info encrypted, and he hasn't learned how to use the PGP software to firstly decrypt buyer's messages and send you an encrypted message should you request it. Frankie, it's nothing against your gear or customer service but this a major security issue you really need to address now.
He didn't have a problem decrypting mine. Are we talking about the same American gangster on my list?
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: BOGAN BOB on December 26, 2012, 12:22 pm
Still waiting on a ball that i stupidly fe'd for from Americangangsta.... 25 days and counting.
americangangsta/crystalking said he would reship or refund days ago but is now not replying to my msg's...
If it dont come in this week i think im screwed.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: Wadozo on December 26, 2012, 12:37 pm
BOB!! FE for Frankie? Probably needed it for that Vanilla Coke!
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: BOGAN BOB on December 26, 2012, 12:47 pm
Wadozo!! I think ima bout to cry.... If i dont get it and he dont refund i hope i can make it back by selling meth i ordered from trusted vendors over new years.... live and learn i guess.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: PizzaBrain on December 26, 2012, 01:35 pm
I couldn't work out what vendor is the best because you compare one vendors meth to another vendor without taking into account varying batches over time, -as other people have said.
Every vendor has a 5* even though you state some product was less euphoric and gave you jitters anxiety. please consider using a 100% rating scale. or 1-10 in 0.1 increments, (ie: 9.1, 9.5)
this would be a much better way to rate, without having to worry about pissing vendors off by giving a 4/5.

You should be comparing the product only, not how much of a prick the vendor may be, or how bad the product was packaged for a Domestic order (no anti-customs effort required)
As for the tolerance problem, you might be better off doing only one dose from each bag, then when its out of your system and you've recovered slightly, try revisit one of your better batches to see if your perception of their quality has changed. circulating inbetween batches like this, and arranging a double blind test by labelling each bag with a letter that is hidden by sticking a piece of tape over it, comparing notes and finally revealing which batch was which once youve finished them. (you'd have to crush dose into powder, to avoid recognising the which vendor the shard has come from)

Just as an idea, you could work on this method.

You should also state whether the vendor offers international shipping or not, that would save some of us alot of time.


Also, BOGAN BOB please update us on the frankiewhite situation, he's been a good vendor as of yet apparently.
don't be so quick to tarnish a vendors rep. Its boxing day after all, and vendors are inundated with orders this time of year.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: BOGAN BOB on December 26, 2012, 02:34 pm
Yea im not putting shit on old frankie just yet, hoping all is fine and its just christmas delays.
But it has been 5 days and he hasnt even opened my msg but has been on everyday, i have excellent stats and a very good success rate from his country....

I think pooh bears last batch was pretty dam fine....
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: PizzaBrain on December 26, 2012, 04:58 pm
Thanks for the negative karma, you know who you are.
Lay off the meth and you won't be so irritable with people and their suggestions.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: Thisisnotashillaccount on December 28, 2012, 02:49 pm
Also having an issue with CrystalKing. First order was great. Now he says the second has been sent yet will not give me a tracking number and claims he has been replying to my messages and there must be a glitch in the messaging system, this from the one message I did recieve. I've messaged the admins. Hopefully they will supply some insight.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: sniper123 on December 29, 2012, 03:47 pm
I couldn't work out what vendor is the best because you compare one vendors meth to another vendor without taking into account varying batches over time, -as other people have said.
Every vendor has a 5* even though you state some product was less euphoric and gave you jitters anxiety. please consider using a 100% rating scale. or 1-10 in 0.1 increments, (ie: 9.1, 9.5)
this would be a much better way to rate, without having to worry about pissing vendors off by giving a 4/5.

You should be comparing the product only, not how much of a prick the vendor may be, or how bad the product was packaged for a Domestic order (no anti-customs effort required)
As for the tolerance problem, you might be better off doing only one dose from each bag, then when its out of your system and you've recovered slightly, try revisit one of your better batches to see if your perception of their quality has changed. circulating inbetween batches like this, and arranging a double blind test by labelling each bag with a letter that is hidden by sticking a piece of tape over it, comparing notes and finally revealing which batch was which once youve finished them. (you'd have to crush dose into powder, to avoid recognising the which vendor the shard has come from)

Just as an idea, you could work on this method.

You should also state whether the vendor offers international shipping or not, that would save some of us alot of time.


Also, BOGAN BOB please update us on the frankiewhite situation, he's been a good vendor as of yet apparently.
don't be so quick to tarnish a vendors rep. Its boxing day after all, and vendors are inundated with orders this time of year.
Ok where do i start? This is not a product or vendor thread about frankie. If you have concerns about this vendor take them elsewhere. Also, meth tends to make certain people jittery. I never used the word anxious. Please read before you type. Thank you.
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: Wadozo on December 30, 2012, 03:01 pm
doesnt CrystalKing ship internationally? and wasnt he formerly known as AmericanGangsta and Frankiewhite?

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d221039209

Yes, he does. Yes, he was, a business name of AmericanGangsta07 and a fictitious character, Frankiewhite. This vendor still doesn't have a PGP Public Key after all this time, so buyer's can send their info encrypted, and he hasn't learned how to use the PGP software to firstly decrypt buyer's messages and send you an encrypted message should you request it. Frankie, it's nothing against your gear or customer service but this a major security issue you really need to address now.
He didn't have a problem decrypting mine. Are we talking about the same American gangster on my list?

sniper123, AmericanGangster07, AKA, Frankie White, AKA, Caine Black, AKA, CrystalKing has NEVER had a PGP Public Key. He doesn't know the first thing about using PGP software, encrypting messages and decrypting messages from customers containing their sensitive info. I'm not sure which American Gangster you're referring to but I can assure you, this vendor isn't capable of decrypting a message and gets upset when I raise the issue with him.  :)
Title: Re: Meth compared by many vendors by only one!
Post by: BOGAN BOB on December 30, 2012, 03:40 pm
doesnt CrystalKing ship internationally? and wasnt he formerly known as AmericanGangsta and Frankiewhite?

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d221039209

Yes, he does. Yes, he was, a business name of AmericanGangsta07 and a fictitious character, Frankiewhite. This vendor still doesn't have a PGP Public Key after all this time, so buyer's can send their info encrypted, and he hasn't learned how to use the PGP software to firstly decrypt buyer's messages and send you an encrypted message should you request it. Frankie, it's nothing against your gear or customer service but this a major security issue you really need to address now.
He didn't have a problem decrypting mine. Are we talking about the same American gangster on my list?

sniper123, AmericanGangster07, AKA, Frankie White, AKA, Caine Black, AKA, CrystalKing has NEVER had a PGP Public Key. He doesn't know the first thing about using PGP software, encrypting messages and decrypting messages from customers containing their sensitive info. I'm not sure which American Gangster you're referring to but I can assure you, this vendor isn't capable of decrypting a message and gets upset when I raise the issue with him.  :)

AmericanGangsta07