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Discussion => Philosophy, Economics and Justice => Topic started by: jameslink2 on October 01, 2012, 10:56 pm
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Lets get some quotes going, post up your favorite Philosophy quote!
"So long as you still see the stars as something "above you" you still lack the eye of the man of knowledge. " -- Beyond Good and Evil Friedrich Nietzsche
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Here's a nice, topical one for the road.
"We used to think that secrecy was perhaps the greatest enemy of democracy, and as long as there was no suppression or censorship, people could be trusted to make the informed decisions that would preserve our free society, but we have learned in recent years that the techniques of misinformation and misdirection have become so refined that, even in an open society, a cleverly directed flood of misinformation can overwhelm the truth, even though the truth is out there, uncensored, quietly available to anyone who can find it." - Daniel Dennett.
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"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." - Socrates
And he was right. At least from my point of view.
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Here's another inspiring topical quote for SR :)
"The worker of the world has nothing to lose, but their chains, workers of the world unite". - Karl Marx
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The Dalai Lama, when asked what surprised him most about humanity, answered:
"Man.... Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."
~ Dalai Lama
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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
As soon as I saw the title for this post I thought of that quote, then what would you know; I open the thread and you started it off with Nietzsche as well.
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Give man a mask, then he will show you his true face.
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"People who lean on logic and philosophy and rational exposition end by starving the best part of the mind."
William Butler Yeats
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The more unintelligent a man is, the less mysterious existence seems to him.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
- Benjamin Franklin
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These are some great quotes!
Try this one, not really philosophy or is it?
"Live with a man 40 years. Share his house, his meals. Speak on every subject. Then tie him up, and hold him over the volcano's edge. And on that day, you will finally meet the man." -- TV Show Firefly.
I enjoy all of them, there are some I may not agree with but they all lead to one examining the statement on a deeper level and questioning what one truly believes.
Keep them coming!
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"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas" Davy Crockett
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The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war.
Douglas MacArthur
Build me a son, O Lord, who will be strong enough to know when he is weak, and brave enough to face himself when he is afraid, one who will be proud and unbending in honest defeat, and humble and gentle in victory.
Douglas MacArthur
I am concerned for the security of our great Nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within.
Douglas MacArthur
In my dreams I hear again the crash of guns, the rattle of musketry, the strange, mournful mutter of the battlefield.
Douglas MacArthur
We are not retreating - we are advancing in another direction.
Douglas MacArthur
Age wrinkles the body. Quitting wrinkles the soul.
Douglas MacArthur
It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear.
Douglas MacArthur
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"Anything worth doing is worth doing slow" -Red Green
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Two of my absolute favourites:
"Homo sapiens, the first truly free species, is about to decommission natural selection, the force that made us.... Soon we must look deep within ourselves and decide what we wish to become."
Edward O. Wilson
One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
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"Man.... Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."
~ Dalai Lama
I love that one.
"You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing -- that's what counts."
~ Richard Feynman
I'm a sucker for cheesy ones.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats
hl menken
really any quote by that old man fucking rocks :)
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(Not quoting, due free translation)
Who is the master, who makes the grass green? - ZenBuddhismus question
Everyone thinks he's the most important person on this planet.... and everyone is right - (should be zenbuddhismus too, not sure and translated too)
Thinking about thinking, brings us into a quagmire - Albert Einstein
Or some random quotes by myself (translated):
'I'm in fear of it, because I'm looking for it'
'Just because we have too less time, that doesn't mean, we're not wasting it'
'If I would be you, nothing changed'
'Art matters'
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More an Epitaph:
'I told you I was sick' - Spike Milligan
'An empty taxi pulled up.Chamberlain got out' - CHucrchill (Replace Chamberlain Churchill with Obama Romney according to taste)
'Sir, you are drunk' 'Madam, you are ugly and in the morning I will be sober' - Churcbill (Quite fond of the old chap)
'Winston, if you were my husband I'd poision your tea'. 'Lady Astor, if you were my wife Id drink it' - Churchill
'He's not coming out to play, he's a very naughy boy' - The VIrgin Mary
The biggest idito is he who skims the thread title - eveyone in this thread
Couple of seroius one 'Once you label me you negate me' -kiergegaard
'anxiety is the dizziness of freedom' - ditto
'Uh've nae felt that good since Archie Gemmiil Scored Against Holland in 1978' - Mark 'Rent Boy' Renton
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Im not sure of the exact origin and im not sure if it would be consider purely philosophical but i thought:
"The greatest opposition to freedom is a happy slave"
was a good one =)
Crystal
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These are a few of my favorites
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
The only church that illuminates is a burning one. Buenaventura Durruti
We must remember that one determined person can make a significant difference and that a small group of determined people can change the course of history. Sonia Johnson
and an nice old Irish proverb
Its often a mans mouth broke his own nose :)
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Only the ideas that we really live have any value.
Hermann Hesse
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"Energy defines life, not flesh and blood. We are infinite energies experiencing infinity. Through a finite aperture."
-Stanley Victor Paskavich
"The secret of life is to 'die before you die' and find that there is no death."
-Eckhart Tolle
"There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception."
-Aldous Huxley
"Everything you can imagine is real."
-Pablo Picasso
"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."
-Anonymous
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The idea that the State is capable of solving social problems is now viewed with great scepticism – which foretells a coming change. As soon as scepticism is applied to the State, the State falls, since it fails at everything except increasing its power, and so can only survive on propaganda, which relies on unquestioning faith.
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anybody body mention Bill Hicks yet?, some of my favorites.....
They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do just as well – you just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference.
I quit smoking. It's very hard, but I'm glad I did. I'll tell you, this war against drugs in the US is the reason I quit because I got too fuckin' sick of being on the wrong side. The war against drugs, which actually is a war against civil rights, don't ever be fooled again. If they cared about us they'd get rid of the number one drug which is cigarettes; kills more people than crack, coke, and heroin combined, times 100. Legal.
Comedy is a double-edged sword; on 1 hand no 1 gives you any flak because...it's all a joke. On the other hand, it's not a joke
My top spot, favorite of all time..
The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while. Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." And we … kill those people. "Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok … But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.
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It's not from a real life person but it basically fits being a drug dealer to a T. It's from the film Layer Cake -
"You're born, you take shit. Get out into the world, take more shit. Climb a little higher, take less shit until one day, you are in the rarefied atmosphere when you have forgotten what shit even looks like. Welcome to the Layer Cake son"
If you want to hear it spoken here is the link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfNamZmzPc0 I listen to it ever day. :)
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"Try to imagine what it will be like to go to sleep and never wake up... now try to imagine what it was like to wake up having never gone to sleep."
-Alan Wilson Watts
This is by far my favorite quote because it so beautifully sums up the nature of existence of consciousness.
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"When I was a kid, my father would sit by my bed every night before I went to sleep. And he's say to me, "Percy, if you don't wake up tomorrow, if it turns out that today is your last day on earth. Will you be proud of what you've done in this life? Because if you ain't, you better start getting square." " - Percy Walker
That's fucking beautiful :')
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And my motto for life is "Aut Caesar aut nihil" Anonymous
"There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception."
-Aldous Huxley
Yeah, also love Aldous
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I love this thread :)
Favorite one so far has been the bill hicks Ride quote, I remembered the first time I heard it and read it in his voice; literally gave me orgasmic chills up my spine for a good 8 seconds.
"Someone once told me the definition of Hell": The last day you have on this earth, the person you became will meet the person you could have become" -Anonymous
"Bring the mothafuckin ruckus!"- Wu-Tang
"Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most importantly, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.” - Steve Jobs
“Here is the test to find whether your mission on earth is finished. If you’re alive, it isn’t.” - Richard Bach
“Man’s mind, once stretched by a new idea, never regains its original dimensions.” - Oliver Wendell Holmes
"The mind is its own place and in itself, can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven." - John Milton
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I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs.
Frederick Douglass
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There are many ways to mature mentally, the easiest is imitation, the noblest is reflection and the bitterest is experience. - Some german rap guys (Inflabluntahz)
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Not so much a quote but it's a Latin phrase - Ultima ratio regum.
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I dont think anyone has yet to mention Buddha.
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This is more of a personal philosophy quote, but:
"Omnia mea mecum porto" -- Latin for "All that is mine, I carry with me."
The story (one version, at least) goes that the poet Vergil was on a sinking ship, and all the passangers were running around collecting their stuff. Vergil just walked calmly holding nothing. The captain asked him why he wasn't saving his belongings, and Vergil pointed to his head and answered the quote.
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That's cool. My one means "The final argument of Kings" which Louis XIV had engraved on his artillery pieces.
Reminds me to never quit and never take any shit from anyone.
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Not exactly a quote, but Zhuangzi's butterfly dream where he questioned after waking up whether he was a man who dreamed he was a butterfly or a butterfly dreaming he is a man makes me ponder my existence ...
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"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion." Albert Camus
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Imagination is a lot more important than knowledge.
_Albert Einstien
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"A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials." -Confucious
"Every action has a re-action." - The Law of Karma
"Respect is not given, It is is earned." - Unknown
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What makes a man, Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost? Isn't that what makes a man?
Hmmm... Sure, that and a pair of testicles -The Dude
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Both of these are by Epictetus, the second of which explains the first in a different light.
"You are a little soul, carrying a corpse."
"It is unlikely that the good of a snail should reside in its shell: so is it likely that the good of a man should? "
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"Whoever saves one life saves the world entire" - Talmudic (You may remember this quote from Schindler's List)
I would replace 'the world' with 'one world' here :)
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“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” - Einstein
"Your body is not a temple- it's an amusement park, enjoy the ride" - Anthony Bourdain
And of course i have to add a few more from our greatest modern philosopher Bill Hicks :)
“I'm glad mushrooms are against the law, because I took them one time, and you know what happened to me? I laid in a field of green grass for four hours going, "My God! I love everything." Yeah, now if that isn't a hazard to our country … how are we gonna justify arms dealing when we realize that we're all one?” - Bill Hicks
“We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free.” - Bill Hicks
And the greatest of them all
“Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather.”
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I have a few to share:
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" - S. Charles
"The mind is its own place, and in itself, can make a heaven into hell or a hell into heaven" - Milton
"I have never seen a greater monster or miracle in the world than myself" - Michel de Montaigne
"Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude." - Alexis de Tocqueville
"I swear, by my life and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine" - Ayn Rand
"It is not the creation of wealth that is wrong, but love of money for its own sake" - Margaret Thatcher
"Socialism is the same as communism, only better English" - George Bernard Shaw
"Communism is the death of the soul. It is the organization of total conformity - in short, of tyranny - and it is committed to making tyranny universal" - Adlai E. Stevenson
"The Soviets are playing chess while we are playing monopoly. The only question is whether they checkmate us before we bankrupt them" - UN Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick
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@The grapes tasted of fresh, clear water and something that they had saved from the morning dews and the evening rains. They were the warmed-over flesh of April ready now, in August, to pass on their simple gain to any passing stranger. And the lesson was this; sit in the sun, head down, within a prickly vine, in flickery light or open light, and the world will come to you. The sky will come in its time, bringing rain, and the earth will rise through you, from beneath, and make you rich and make you full."
Ray Bradbury
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Freedom, not license - A.S. Neill
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This is my favorite.
-Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves.
Albert Einstein
I wanted to share a few more...
-We feel free when we escape - even if it be but from the frying pan to the fire.
Eric Hoffer
People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them.
-Eric Hoffer
Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness.
The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there.
-Eric Hoffer
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
-Abraham Lincoln
A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be.
-Albert Einstein
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"I stink, therefore I am" - Rene Desfartes
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"Never let anothers version of the truth define your reality" -jj47
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To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail.
—Abraham Maslow
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Apart from the quotes from Subcommandante Marcos and Gandhi in my signature, I think this is very relevant to our times:
"One man's terrorist is another man's revolutionary" / "One man's freedom fighter is another's terrorist"
Originally coined by Gerald Seymour in Harry's Game (1975), but attributed to pretty much any revolutionary icon before and after it's 1975 publication, and also in the lyrics of "Star" by Primal Scream (from the album Vanishing Point - which is a fucking great album incidentally). I know it's as much a cliche as modern-day philosophy, but I think the ambivalence and confusion over means and ends is an indictment of the postmodern post-9/11 era. As US/UK/Western definitions of what constitutes terrorism become ever more expansive, who knows when it may be you at whom this charge is levied, particularly when the greater acts of terrorism are being perpetrated by these very states.
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Apart from the quotes from Subcommandante Marcos and Gandhi in my signature, I think this is very relevant to our times:
"One man's terrorist is another man's revolutionary" / "One man's freedom fighter is another's terrorist"
Originally coined by Gerald Seymour in Harry's Game (1975), but attributed to pretty much any revolutionary icon before and after it's 1975 publication, and also in the lyrics of "Star" by Primal Scream (from the album Vanishing Point - which is a fucking great album incidentally). I know it's as much a cliche as modern-day philosophy, but I think the ambivalence and confusion over means and ends is an indictment of the postmodern post-9/11 era. As US/UK/Western definitions of what constitutes terrorism become ever more expansive, who knows when it may be you at whom this charge is levied, particularly when the greater acts of terrorism are being perpetrated by these very states.
I couldn't agree more. +1 Many of us would be labeled terrorists just for sharing our beliefs......
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I found another quoteable one:
'You say you love rain, but you use an umbrella to walk under it. You say you love sun, but you seek shade when it is shining. You say you love wind, but when it comes, you close your window. So that's why I'm scared when you say you love me. - Bob Marley
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I found another quoteable one:
'You say you love rain, but you use an umbrella to walk under it. You say you love sun, but you seek shade when it is shining. You say you love wind, but when it comes, you close your window. So that's why I'm scared when you say you love me. - Bob Marley
Man... i hate they killed MARLEY.... sum sad shit :(
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Friendship is unnecessary, like philosophy, like art... It has no survival value; rather it is one of those things that give value to survival.
- c.s. lewis
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In order to lure your enemy give him something he is sure to take.
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Macbeth:
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Macbeth Act 5, scene 5, 19–28
Not sure if this fits in with this threads theme?
But it's powerful none-the-less.
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"I have an idea that the only thing which makes it possible to regard this world we live in without disgust is the beauty which now and then men create out of the chaos. The pictures they paint, the music they compose, the books they write, and the lives they lead. Of all these the richest in beauty is the beautiful life. That is the perfect work of art.”
― W. Somerset Maugham, The Painted Veil
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"Accept life as it is not as you wish it to be" -Napoleon or "Every time some nut job goes on a shooting spree the authorities always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it"-William Bouroghs but my favorite is the short version of the serenity prayer which goes "F**k It"-by anonymous
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We are not human beings having a spiritual experience- we are spiritual beings having a human experience."
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
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"Its what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." -Mewtwo (yea, its Pokemon bitch)
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Anyone read the poem If? Basically all that haha. :)
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"If you find a law to be unjust,it is your duty as an American citizen to break that law"- Thomas Jefferson
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"I think I think, Therefore I think I am." Some guy.
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"I think I think, Therefore I think I am." Some guy.
Some guy = Descartes: 'Cogito ergo sum'
edit: sorry chil, I re-read your post and saw it wasn't a direct quote - now I think I think I was trying to come off like a smartass.
+1 to you for me being an arsehole
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if you find pussy cheaper than ours anywhere...............................fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck iiiiiiiiiiit´!
Chet Pussy - From Dusk Till Dawn
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"If the men of property will not support us, they must fall. Our strength shall come from that great and respectable class, the men of no property".
Theobald Wolfe Tone (20 June 1763 – 19 November 1798)
"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."
Emiliano Zapata (August 8, 1879 to April 10, 1919)
"If you're not ready to die for it, put the word freedom out of your vocabulary."
Malcolm X (May 19, 1925 – February 21, 1965)
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Anyone read the poem If? Basically all that haha. :)
Yea, that's one of my favorite poems, along with (although on a different tip) 'Not waving, but drowning'.
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Don't know if its philosophical, but one of my favorites nonetheless.
"If you can't answer a man's argument, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."
- Elbert Hubbard
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"Stories happen to people who can tell stories."
Wish I knew where I heard that, but I have kept it in my hat for a long time.
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"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war" - Howard Zinn
"War is organized murder, nothing else" - Harry Patch (last surviving soldier of WW1)
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"Stories happen to people who can tell stories."
Similar to:
"History is narrated by the victorious."
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The court is corrupt,
The fields are overgrown with weeds,
The granaries are empty;
Yet there are those with fine clothes and swords at their sides.
Filled with food and drink and possessing too much wealth.
This is known as taking the lead in robbery.
Far indeed is this from the way.....
Lao Tzu
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" When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back into you " - Nietzsche
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"every moment is the birth of a brand new everything" i wish i remembered the philosopher to credit for this...
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there is no end only the begging.....
a bird doesn't know its in a cage..till it trys to fly..
love is only in ur head....
is life a soul...
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"Over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign." - John Stuart Mill
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
- H. L. Mencken
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All I can do is be me, Whoever that is" - Bob Dylan
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"Everything you know is wrong." The Firesign Theatre
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“One day, someone showed me a glass with water. And he said, "Is it half full or half empty?" So I drank the water. No more problem.”
― Alejandro Jodorowsky
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Huh, no Mark Twain yet? My favorite citizen-philosopher...
"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes"
"Four years at West Point and plenty of books and schooling will learn a man a great deal, It won't learn him the river."
And the big one:
"Annihilation has no terrors for me, because I have already tried it before I was born /a hundred million years /and I have suffered more in an hour, in this life, than I remember to have suffered in the whole hundred million years put together. There was a peace, a serenity, an absence of all sense of responsibility, an absence of worry, an absence of care, grief, perplexity; and the presence of a deep content and unbroken satisfaction in that hundred million years of holiday which I look back upon with a tender longing and with a grateful desire to resume, when the opportunity comes."
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property is theft
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property is theft
Sorry but that's bullshit. Property is one of the most basic rights.
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"Truth is a pathless land" Jiddhu Krishnamurti.
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"Offer not your right hand easily to anyone"
-Pythagoras
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property is theft
Theft from whom?
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property is theft
Sorry but that's bullshit. Property is one of the most basic rights.
Would be interesting to hear more of these 'basic rights' of which you speak. Perhaps you could explain who they apply to and who grants them?
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Would be interesting to hear more of these 'basic rights' of which you speak. Perhaps you could explain who they apply to and who grants them?
You assume rights are granted by anybody.
Let me reverse the phrase and return the question to you.
Is there still freedom of the press if people do not have the right to own a printing press (or a computer)?
Do you have the right to freedom of expression if all means of expression are taken away from you?
Do you still have the right to privacy in your house, if you cannot have your own place?
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Would be interesting to hear more of these 'basic rights' of which you speak. Perhaps you could explain who they apply to and who grants them?
You assume rights are granted by anybody.
Let me reverse the phrase and return the question to you.
Is there still freedom of the press if people do not have the right to own a printing press (or a computer)?
Do you have the right to freedom of expression if all means of expression are taken away from you?
Do you still have the right to privacy in your house, if you cannot have your own place?
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Exactly, right aren't "granted".
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Would be interesting to hear more of these 'basic rights' of which you speak. Perhaps you could explain who they apply to and who grants them?
You assume rights are granted by anybody.
Let me reverse the phrase and return the question to you.
Is there still freedom of the press if people do not have the right to own a printing press (or a computer)?
Do you have the right to freedom of expression if all means of expression are taken away from you?
Do you still have the right to privacy in your house, if you cannot have your own place?
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Exactly, right aren't "granted".
That was my original point: there is no such thing as a basic right.
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property is theft
Theft from whom?
Good question. This quote seems to have provoked a lot of reaction in comparison to all the others on this thread - makes me wonder why.
To attempt an answer I'd have to posit that the theft is from all things to come. Now _that_ is bullshit.
My understanding of the meaning of the quote is that the environment we inhabit is shared with everyone and everything and cannot be owned.
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Good question. This quote seems to have provoked a lot of reaction in comparison to all the others on this thread - makes me wonder why.
To attempt an answer I'd have to posit that the theft is from all things to come. Now _that_ is bullshit.
My understanding of the meaning of the quote is that the environment we inhabit is shared with everyone and everything and cannot be owned.
The quote "property is theft" is related to Marxism As you state: the world we live in is shared by everyone and if something is your property, nobody else can enjoy it. Everything piece of the world you take for yourself, you take away from everybody else.
Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists believe that if you cannot possess property, you cannot have any rights at all. You don't have freedom of the press if you can't own a press. You don't have the right to bear arms if you can't own arms. Etc.
I'm not saying one or the other is wrong, both are different philosophical ways of seeing the world.
A lot of people here have strong libertarian believes, so a socialist quote like that will push some people's buttons. But that is okay, because free debate is a good thing.
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Staying on the subject of Marxism, but still an inspirational quote:
"The great only appear great because we are on our knees"
- James Larkin, Irish labour union leader.
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You're born, you take shit. You get out in the world, you take more shit. You climb a little higher, you take less shit. Till one day you're up in the rarefied atmosphere and you've forgotten what shit even looks like. Welcome to the layer cake son.
-Layer cake-
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Who are you to judge the life i live? I know I'm not perfect and i don't claim to be, but before you start pointing fingers.......make sure your hands are clean.
- Robert Nesta Marley, or bob to you and me.
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“All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” - Buddha -
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"Bitches ain't shit but hoes n' tricks."
- Snoop
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"Don't take life too seriously, no one gets out alive anyways."
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property is theft
Fallacy of the Stolen Concept.
“Theft” is a concept that logically and genetically depends on the antecedent concept of “rightfully owned property” – and refers to the act of taking that property without the owner’s consent. If no property is rightfully owned, that is, if nothing is property, there can be no such concept as “theft.” Thus, the statement “All property is theft” has an internal contradiction: to use the concept “theft” while denying the validity of the concept of “property,” is to use “theft” as a concept to which one has no logical right – that is, as a stolen concept.
- Nathaniel Branden
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The quote "property is theft" is related to Marxism [...] the world we live in is shared by everyone [...] Everything piece of the world you take for yourself, you take away from everybody else.
Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists believe that if you cannot possess property, you cannot have any rights at all. You don't have freedom of the press if you can't own a press. You don't have the right to bear arms if you can't own arms. Etc.
I'm not saying one or the other is wrong, both are different philosophical ways of seeing the world.
A lot of people here have strong libertarian believes, so a socialist quote like that will push some people's buttons. But that is okay, because free debate is a good thing.
It is indeed a good thing.
The rights thing though ... i contend that there are no rights (basic or god-given whatever those terms mean) regardless of how property is conceived, see no reason to expect others to respect anything about me or anything not about me. Of course constitutional rights might be enforced by the law - thats another issue.
Talk of 'rights' like free speech and to bear arms seems like nonsense - i will do as i choose - there is always the chance some group might want to stop me.
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The quote "property is theft" is related to Marxism [...] the world we live in is shared by everyone [...] Everything piece of the world you take for yourself, you take away from everybody else.
Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists believe that if you cannot possess property, you cannot have any rights at all. You don't have freedom of the press if you can't own a press. You don't have the right to bear arms if you can't own arms. Etc.
I'm not saying one or the other is wrong, both are different philosophical ways of seeing the world.
A lot of people here have strong libertarian believes, so a socialist quote like that will push some people's buttons. But that is okay, because free debate is a good thing.
It is indeed a good thing.
The rights thing though ... i contend that there are no rights (basic or god-given whatever those terms mean) regardless of how property is conceived, see no reason to expect others to respect anything about me or anything not about me. Of course constitutional rights might be enforced by the law - thats another issue.
Talk of 'rights' like free speech and to bear arms seems like nonsense - i will do as i choose - there is always the chance some group might want to stop me.
Yes, you will "do as you please" and others may "want to stop" you. The question is, are you morally justified in doing so? Are they? How does one morally justify their actions? The typical libertarian response is that rights are derived from the concept of "self-ownership". "Property", is that which you transform in nature by mixing your labor with it. The "right of property" gives you exclusive use and control. No one has a higher claim on that which you transform/create, than you. No one has a right to take, agianst your will, that which you have created.
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Good evening, London. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of every day routine- the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration, thereby those important events of the past usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, a celebration of a nice holiday, I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat. There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence. Last night I destroyed the Old Bailey, to remind this country of what it has forgotten. More than four hundred years ago a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives. So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you then I would suggest you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot.
- V for Vendetta -
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..........GIVE ME LOVE SO I CAN KILL....... ...... ........ > :o
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e tu Brute ?
that ceaser play. .from shakspear
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I'm in a god hating mood right now :)
DISCLAIMER: I do not hate Christians, merely the ones that attempt to force their beliefs on me. I find nothing wrong with Christianity as a whole; I would respect their beliefs even if there was absolute scientific evidence showing that God does not exist. Diversity is a good thing. I just ask that they do the same and respect my (lack of) beliefs.
"Religion is like a penis.
It is perfectly fine to have one
It is perfectly fine to be proud of it
But it isn't something you pull out and wave in people's faces
And please don't try to force it down my children's throats"
"If you're religion is worth killing for, please start with yourself"
"Arguing with christians is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it's victorious"
"The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but how it thinks"
-Christopher Hitchens
"No amount of belief makes something a fact"
-James Randi
"...today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the almighty creator"
-Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
“You know, you gotta respect everybody’s beliefs!” NO YOU DON’T! That’s what gets us in trouble! Look, you have to ACKNOWLEDGE everyone’s beliefs, but you have to reserve the right to say “That is fucking stupid!”
-Patton Oswalt
"Claiming that someone else's marriage is against your religion is like being angry at someone for eating a donut because you're on a diet."
-Seth Rogen (Who would have thought..)
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DISCLAIMER: I do not hate Christians, merely the ones that attempt to force their beliefs on me.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is what they all do
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DISCLAIMER: I do not hate Christians, merely the ones that attempt to force their beliefs on me.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is what they all do
that's a hell of a generalization, just like saying "all drug users are violent and unstable."
I know a few christians on a personal level and I'm fairly sure that they don't run around in daily fits of fanaticism, trying to save everyone's souls.
They are a dime a dozen though, I'm with you there.
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Well, I've never met a christian that wouldn't at some point in a relationship start to try to shoehorn me into going to church with them for their thanksgiving service or ask me if I would like to say grace for them when I would have them over for dinner. They even printed some nonsense about trusting god on the currency I use to pay my day to day bills. 10 commandment fliers are a quarterly hand out in my mailbox, and I could go on, but every church service I have been dragged to has at some point encouraged the congregation to spread the word to their coworkers and friends. It's part of their anthem. they need to spread their lies and blind faith in a higher being because they don't have faith in themselves. end of rant :)
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Well, I've never met a christian that wouldn't at some point in a relationship start to try to shoehorn me into going to church with them for their thanksgiving service or ask me if I would like to say grace for them when I would have them over for dinner. They even printed some nonsense about trusting god on the currency I use to pay my day to day bills. 10 commandment fliers are a quarterly hand out in my mailbox, and I could go on, but every church service I have been dragged to has at some point encouraged the congregation to spread the word to their coworkers and friends. It's part of their anthem. they need to spread their lies and blind faith in a higher being because they don't have faith in themselves. end of rant :)
^I consider those behaviors as mere annoyances and nothing more. What really bothers me is the push to remove the theory of evolution from standard curriculum, banning gay marriage, protesting at military funerals, and the general push to criminalize anything (for everyone) that may be seen as immoral by an invisible space man that watches over all of us.
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but those things you are talking about are just extensions of the annoyances that I was talking about. The same people who do the things that I dislike from previous post are the same people pushing for the things you don't like = christianity = insanity
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but those things you are talking about are just extensions of the annoyances that I was talking about. The same people who do the things that I dislike from previous post are the same people pushing for the things you don't like = christianity = insanity
To ask (emphasis on "ask") someone to attend a church service or to say grace, or even to advertise one's religion to others is different in concept than attempting to ban teachings inconsistent with your own beliefs (that cannot be proved), or using legislation to restrict basic rights based on sexual orientation. The factor that differentiates the two sets of behaviors is freedom of choice. The behaviors I defined as "mere annoyances" do not force you to do anything. However, the other behaviors seek to forcefully restrict your rights to free thinking and equality. I acknowledge that I left out the bit on "in god we trust" that is printed on all U.S. currency, because I really don't know what to think about the topic.
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Oh, I also wanted to note that I just hit 100 posts, and you were the first to recieve a karma point (whatever that means) from me. I am quite happy that this conversation has not been reduced to shit slinging and name calling.
Hope I didn't derail this thread too much; here's another quote
“There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths. Almost inevitably some part of him is aware that they are myths and that he believes them only because they are comforting. But he dare not face this thought! Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are disputed.”
-Bertrand Russell
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'whatever man'
~ Redman & Method Man
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Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players, and electrical tin can openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol and dental insurance. Choose fixed-interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisure wear and matching luggage. Choose a three piece suit on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked-up brats you have spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life -Renton, Trainspotting
Really makes you think about what the right path to choose is in life, especially coming from a movie about how fucked up the life is of someone who didn't choose Life.
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"Whom the Gods would destroy they first make mad."
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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"Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident"
Schopenhauer
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"Even a broken clock is right twice a day." - Woody Allen.
"I would have written of me on my stone: I had a lover's quarrel with the world." - Robert Lee Frost
"Someday, somewhere - anywhere, unfailingly, you'll find yourself, and that, and only that, can be the happiest or bitterest hour of your life." - Pablo Neruda
"The hardest thing to learn in life is which bridge to cross and which to burn." - Bertrand Russell
"Siempre quejándote de todo y a la vez fingiendo no darle importancia a nada, vives de esperanzas pero no sabes ni qué esperas…" - Julio Cortázar
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Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just
as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition
of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness.
The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a
condition which needs illusions - Karl Marx
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Eww Karl Marx. What a cunt he was.
I really don't think religion's that bad. I probably agree with more of what an average Christian thinks that what an average atheist thinks (me being an atheist). Athiests tend to be stuck up lefties.
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No offense bincofone but Last time I checked this was not a thread about my opinons vs your opinons it was just a thread to freely and openly express quotes of your or my interest without the punishment of being flamed by anyone else. (P.S I am not an athiest I just am against all modern and established religions DMT has shown me the Gods of this world).
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"We do not say that a man who takes no interest in politics is a man who minds his own business; we say that he has no business here at all." - Pericles commenting the participation of Athenian citizens in politics.
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"it is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims"
-Aristotle
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The quote "property is theft" is related to Marxism [...] the world we live in is shared by everyone [...] Everything piece of the world you take for yourself, you take away from everybody else.
Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists believe that if you cannot possess property, you cannot have any rights at all.
A lot of people here have strong libertarian believes, so a socialist quote like that will push some people's buttons. But that is okay, because free debate is a good thing.
It is indeed a good thing.
The rights thing though ... i contend that there are no rights (basic or god-given whatever those terms mean) regardless of how property is conceived, see no reason to expect others to respect anything about me or anything not about me. Of course constitutional rights might be enforced by the law - thats another issue.
Talk of 'rights' like free speech and to bear arms seems like nonsense - i will do as i choose - there is always the chance some group might want to stop me.
Yes, you will "do as you please" and others may "want to stop" you. The question is, are you morally justified in doing so? Are they? How does one morally justify their actions? The typical libertarian response is that rights are derived from the concept of "self-ownership". "Property", is that which you transform in nature by mixing your labor with it. The "right of property" gives you exclusive use and control. No one has a higher claim on that which you transform/create, than you. No one has a right to take, agianst your will, that which you have created.
morally justified? is that the same as having the right to do so? maybe neither issue (sic) will distract me from doing as i please .
back on topic:
'do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law'
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e tu brute ?
u fukin backstabin cheese eatin rat..lol
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property is theft
Fallacy of the Stolen Concept.
“Theft” is a concept that logically and genetically depends on the antecedent concept of “rightfully owned property” – and refers to the act of taking that property without the owner’s consent. If no property is rightfully owned, that is, if nothing is property, there can be no such concept as “theft.” Thus, the statement “All property is theft” has an internal contradiction: to use the concept “theft” while denying the validity of the concept of “property,” is to use “theft” as a concept to which one has no logical right – that is, as a stolen concept.
- Nathaniel Branden
interesting quote. Does it seem sophist? Clearly the original statement is made in the light of a general acceptance that property does exist. The statement may well be interpreted as equating the two concepts to make a point. One is the other. If we introduce property then we introduce theft. Quite amusing to think of theft as a ''stolen concept'' which carries the odd implication that a concept could be property.
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the only constant in life is change
Ghandi
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if you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans
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"conscience is simply a polite term for cowardice."
--Lord Henry Wotton from The Picture Of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde.
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I am the master of my fate & I am the captain of my soul. ~ Mandela ~
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"To be or not be, that is the question"
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we do what we want because we can. -anonymous
a professional soldier is predictable, but the world is full of amateurs. -anonymous
there's the door, now get the fuck out. -Captain Jean Luc Picard
;D
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"We have guided missiles and yet we have misguided men."
-Martin Luther King, Jr.
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" The sun even shines on a dogs ass some days "
Wesley Snipes - White Men Cant Jump
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"Sex is a sensation caused by the temptation of a guy who sticks his location in a girl's destination to increase the population of the next generation do you understand my explanation or do you need a demonstration ? "
Just Jokin' !, but seriously... these are not all strictly philosophical
"Religion is Man's reaction to his fear of the unknown. Science is Man, overcoming his fear."
"Science answers questions, Philosophy questions answers."
"A fine is a tax for being bad, a tax is a fine for being good !"
" Taking mind altering substances is satanic and wrong, unless the person who gave them to you is wearing a white coat. Then it's totally fine."
"the sole end for which mankind are warranted, individually or collectively, in interfering with the liberty of action of any of their number, is self-protection. That the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."
— John Stuart Mill, On Liberty (1859)
"If I as an adult am not sovereign over my own consciousness then I am absolutely not sovereign over anything !, I can't claim any kind of freedom at all"
- Anonymous
"Wherever a liberal society might draw the line, it cannot accept that serious offence — sufficiently serious to justify coercion by the state — follows merely from knowledge that a deeply disliked activity is taking place in private"
- (Hart 1963: 46-47)
“It does seem that it is easy for human beings to deny the presence of humanity in others — or rather,to deny that other human children and adults have their own inner worlds and are capable of deep suffering. People don't cultivate their imaginations enough. Often they simply are unable to imagine that a shape in front of them has an inner life similar to their own. As time goes on they may come to have an active stake in denying that"
- (Nussbaum 2008: 328).
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using no way as a way...Bruce Lee
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If you think you can or if you cant your right...Henry Ford
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"The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off."
-Gloria Steinem
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you can never change a persons mind...but they can be brought to a new decision based on the introduction of new information..unknown
destiny is a matter of choice,not chance..unknown
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"Bazooko's Circus is what the whole hep world would be doing Saturday nights if the Nazis had won the war"
- Raoul Duke -
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If a man walks in the woods for love of them half of each day, he is in danger of being regarded as a loafer. But if he spends his days as a speculator, shearing off those woods and making the earth bald before her time, he is deemed an industrious and enterprising citizen. - Thoreau
probably not my all time favourite, but first one that came to mind
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"All we are is dust in the wind," dude. Ted Theodore Logan.
I think some Greek bloke might have said something similar too.
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Don't have obviously one favourite quote above the others, I have too many. So I just post here from a book I've been reading recently... ;)
"Q: I can imagine myself to be beyond. But what proof have I? To be,
I must be somebody.
N: It is the other way round. To be, you must be nobody. To think
yourself to be something, or somebody, is death and hell."
(Nisargadatta Maharaj)
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"take it easy dude, but take it"
Terence McKenna
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'people are just as wonderful as sunsets if you let them be. when i look at a sunset, i dont find myself saying 'soften the orange a bit on the right hand corner. i don't try to control a sunset. i watch with awe as it unfolds.'
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"There's something sad about people going to bed. You can see they don't give a damn whether they're getting what they want out of life or not, you can see they don't even try to understand what we're here for. They just don't care. Americans or not, they sleep no matter what, they're bloated mollusks, no sensibility, no trouble with their conscience." ~ Louis-Ferdinand
(I've struggled with a crippling sleep disorder my whole life so this quote makes me feel like I'm actually onto something and not just chemically imbalanced... hahaha!)
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This is my favourite threat so far.
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"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading." -----Thomas Jefferson
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"Commerce is naturally adverse to all the violent passions; it loves to temporize, takes delight in compromise, and studiously avoids irritation. It is patient, insinuating, flexible, and never has recourse to extreme measures until obliged by the most absolute necessity. Commerce renders men independent of each other, gives them a lofty notion of their personal importance, leads them to seek to conduct their own affairs, and teaches how to conduct them well; it therefore prepares men for freedom, but preserves them from revolutions."
"Above this race of men stands an immense and tutelary power, which takes upon itself alone to secure their gratifications, and to watch over their fate. That power is absolute, minute, regular, provident, and mild. It would be like the authority of a parent, if, like that authority, its object was to prepare men for manhood; but it seeks on the contrary to keep them in perpetual childhood: it is well content that the people should rejoice, provided they think of nothing but rejoicing. For their happiness such a government willingly labors, but it chooses to be the sole agent and the only arbiter of that happiness: it provides for their security, foresees and supplies their necessities, facilitates their pleasures, manages their principal concerns, directs their industry, regulates the descent of property, and subdivides their inheritances—what remains, but to spare them all the care of thinking and all the trouble of living? Thus it every day renders the exercise of the free agency of man less useful and less frequent; it circumscribes the will within a narrower range, and gradually robs a man of all the uses of himself. The principle of equality has prepared men for these things: it has predisposed men to endure them, and oftentimes to look on them as benefits."
"Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom, socialism restricts it. Democracy attaches all possible value to each man; socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude."
"Born under another sky, placed in the middle of an always-moving scene, himself driven by the irresistible torrent which sweeps along everything that surrounds him, the American has no time to tie himself to anything; he grows accustomed to naught but change, and concludes by viewing it as the natural state of man; he feels a need for it; even more, he loves it: for instability, instead of occurring to him in the form of disasters, seems to give birth to nothing around him but wonders..."
-Tocqueville
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"Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of life; get wasted all the time, you'll have the time of your life."
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Here's another inspiring topical quote for SR :)
"The worker of the world has nothing to lose, but their chains, workers of the world unite". - Karl Marx
From my point of view as well, friend.
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"Until the philosophy which hold one race superior
and another
inferior
is finally
and permanently
discredited
and abandoned -
everywhere is war.
Me say war."
-Marley
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[trying to sob his way out of being eaten] Its true, its true! And the other thing is, my sister had a baby and I took it over after she passed away and the baby lost all its legs and arms and now its just a stump but I take care of it with my wife and... and its growing and its fairly happy... and its difficult because I'm working a second shift at the factory to put food on the table but all the love that I see in that little guy's face it makes it worth it in the end. True story.'
Shrimp-Shark Tale
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This is my first post. I can think of many quotes, but to stay on topic:
"There are only two types of people who are against drugs: the people who have never done drugs, and people who really sucked at doing drugs."
-Doug Stanhope-
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"I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with -- stone clubs."
My favorite quote from Albert Einstein.
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'Orgasm...Beginning of an end, end of a beginning...
Its not so much related to orgasm, but male ejaculation.
Learn to orgasm without ejaculation... ;)
I'm not sure who quoted it, but after i read it many years ago, it changed my sex life.
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" I dont do Drugs I am Drugs "
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"A little bit of philosophy will lead you away from God, a little more will lead you back" - Pascal
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"Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks
Lick on these nuts and suck the dick
Get the fuck out after you're done
And I hop in my ride to make a quick run..."
Snoop Dogg
Snoop is my favorite philosopher, Aristotle just don't get me...
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A wise little story by "Gibran khalil" from his book "The Madman"
The Astronomer
In the shadow of the temple my friend and I saw a blind man sitting alone. And my friend said, “Behold the wisest man of our land.”
Then I left my friend and approached the blind man and greeted him. And we conversed.
After a while I said, “Forgive my question; but since when has thou been blind?”
“From my birth,” he answered.
Said I, “And what path of wisdom followest thou?”
Said he, “I am an astronomer.”
Then he placed his hand upon his breast saying, “I watch all these suns and moons and stars.”
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"There are no girls on the internet." ~ Anonymous
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"You're seven today, you're a man now. Bury your first toy and the portrait of your mother."
From the movie El Topo by Alejandro Jodorowsky.
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bump !
i got to get to philosphy class
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"The sign of intelligence is that you are constantly wondering. Idiots are always dead sure about every damn thing they are doing in their life."
— Jaggi Vasudev
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"Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. And so we must straighten our backs and work for our freedom. A man can't ride you unless your back is bent. " -- Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." -- Malcolm X
"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky
"The best road to progress is freedom's road." -- John F. Kennedy.
"All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." -- Winston Churchill.
"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter." -- George Washington..
"Freedom lies in being bold." -- Robert Frost.
"Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." -- Sigmund Freud.
"Education is the key to unlock the golden door of freedom." -- George Washington Carver.
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary"
"The pirates are the good guys"
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The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
- Winston Churchill
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Just another one, life philosophy this time...
"If shit hasn't hit the fan yet, you're not doing enough shit."
Saw it somewhere on the clearnet.
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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless." -Alan Moore
"If religion were true, its followers would not try to bludgeon their young into an artificial conformity; but would merely insist on their unbending quest for truth, irrespective of artificial backgrounds or practical consequences." - H.P Lovecraft
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Here's a nice, topical one for the road.
"We used to think that secrecy was perhaps the greatest enemy of democracy, and as long as there was no suppression or censorship, people could be trusted to make the informed decisions that would preserve our free society, but we have learned in recent years that the techniques of misinformation and misdirection have become so refined that, even in an open society, a cleverly directed flood of misinformation can overwhelm the truth, even though the truth is out there, uncensored, quietly available to anyone who can find it." - Daniel Dennett.
I like.
Here is another one:
"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education."
Bertrand Russell
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"There is more wisdom in your body than in your deepest philosophy."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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"I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy."
- John Adams
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'Orgasm...Beginning of an end, end of a beginning...
Its not so much related to orgasm, but male ejaculation.
Learn to orgasm without ejaculation... ;)
I'm not sure who quoted it, but after i read it many years ago, it changed my sex life.
La petite mort, French for "the little death", is an idiom and euphemism for orgasm.
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"When I look upon seamen, men of science and philosophers, man is the wisest of all beings; when I look upon priests and prophets nothing is as contemptible as man." ~Diogenes
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my signature is probably my favorite, but this here is a close runner up:
"And how must we be disappointed, when we learn, that this connexion, tie, or energy lies merely in ourselves, and is nothing but that determination of the mind, which is acquired by custom, and causes us to make a transition from an object to its usual attendant, and from the impression of one to the lively idea of the other? Such a discovery not only cuts off all hope of ever attaining satisfaction, but even prevents our very wishes; since it appears, that when we say we desire to know the ultimate and operating principle, as something which resides in the external object, we either contradict ourselves, or talk without a meaning."
-David Hume (i think it's from the treatise of human nature, but it may be from the enquiries. you should quickly read both if you haven't)
and maybe the most important one of all:
"the unexamined life is one not worth living" - socrates (or plato, really)
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"Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so."
Bertrand Russell
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I'm sure i've mentoned this much earlier in this thread, but i believe its of great help to any of you guys suffering from premature ejaculation.
Its a karma sutra quote-"Orgasm...beginning of an end, the end of a beginning".
Its not so much orgasm, but ejaculation, and it teaches you to orgasm without ejaculating.
You will then realize your cock is more than what it really is, its a conduit with which energy travels through...i could go on and on...
Once you learn to orgasm without actually ejaculating...it will change your sex life.
Hope this quote is of some help to you guys..it sure helped me. ;)
If anyone needs help, PM me. You will go from struggling to hold on more than 5mins, to making your loved one come so much the muscles that make them come will ache and your beautiful partner will not walk straight. ;)
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Ha ha you will laugh at 5 hrs, for 5hrs can feel like 1hour.
But its simply the energy you create...and build up. You keep building it, and building it, till your at the point of ejacualtion, but you wont go past it.
When you can hold that intensity, time stands still.
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"According to convention there is a sweet and a bitter, a hot and a cold;
and according to convention, there is an order. In truth, there are atoms
and a void."
-- Democritus, 400 B.C.
"Failure is not fatal; success is not final. It is the courage to continue that counts."
-- Winston Churchill
"But be on thy guard against the good and the just! They would feign crucify those who devise their own virtue. They hate the lonesome ones."
-- Nietzsche
"You know what I want, Scribble," he says.
"Yeah. What we all want. A glass of Fetish. Clean Drugs. Good Friends. A hot partner. All that. ... Something more..."
-- Jeff Noon, "Vurt"
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"I am no man, I am dynamite" -Friedrich Nietzsche
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"Well I am certainly wiser than this man. It is only too likely that neither of us has any knowledge to boast of; but he thinks that he knows something which he does not know, whereas I am quite conscious of my ignorance. At any rate it seems that I am wiser than he is to this small extent, that I do not think that I know what I do not know. " -Socrates
Knowing there are things you don't know is the beginning of wisdom!
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Expecting many Nietzsche quotes, was not disappointed. Very interesting how people who love drugs usually love ol Fred :)
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A few more:
"Those who think money can't buy happiness don't know where to shop" -- takes on a new meaning with the existence of the Road...
"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein
"And if you go, no one may follow; that path is for your steps alone" - Grateful Dead
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Every line from the Enchiridion is absolutely brilliant, but the first section contains my favorite lines:
"The things in our control are by nature free, unrestrained, unhindered; but those not in our control are weak, slavish, restrained, belonging to others. Remember, then, that if you suppose that things which are slavish by nature are also free, and that what belongs to others is your own, then you will be hindered. You will lament, you will be disturbed, and you will find fault both with gods and men. But if you suppose that only to be your own which is your own, and what belongs to others such as it really is, then no one will ever compel you or restrain you. Further, you will find fault with no one or accuse no one. You will do nothing against your will. No one will hurt you, you will have no enemies, and you not be harmed. "
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"We hold these truths to be self evident"- out of context from the Declaration of Independence.
Things only hold the value which we place on them, the second you no longer hold the dollar to be worth anything, it just becomes a piece of paper.
Once you no longer hold that the oppressers of the governments have power, they no longer do.
Chaos
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"Be the change you want to see in the world"
Ghandi
"We are what we repeatedly do.Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
Aristotle
These quotes inspire me daily i hope it will also inspire you.
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The wise man knows, that he knows nothing at all!
Sorry if this has already been said!