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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Snoopish on August 31, 2012, 02:30 am
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So I'm recently new to Meth (if you've seen my first time post it may have been good for a laugh or an eye roll ???) and am thinking about placing an order for MrFireUK's 1g Amphetamine/Speed. The only problem is I can't seem to find any solid info on the differences. Is there any? Would administration and dosaging be about the same as Meth?
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.....I can't seem to find any solid info on the differences. Is there any? Would administration and dosaging be about the same as Meth?
hey snoop, so im guessing, your new to both methamphetamine and amphet.sulphate ?
yes there is a difference. but you would have to test enough times to get familiar enough to compare the two.
when you get speed of low- to average street quality, you could finish at least a half gram if not a gram or more.
where as with most meth of a decent quality the dosage range depending on the person would be from 50mg up to 150mg range. Im only talking about smoking it. not IV.
but when you have speed of lab quality like mrfire, the dosage will be much closer to what you would take for meth.
(even tho not smoked, you need to be careful how much to have )
product will be very strong, very euphoric, with a pleasant energizing without any nervous tension/anxiety..if used safely.
you should trawl the meth reviews for really precise info on what makes meth good or bad.
generally speaking, when i stopped speed when i was young and moved onto meth, it was because the average cut to the max speed often lacked euphoria and left me fiending for more.
then meth came along and A)i could smoke it , and the way it comes on was fast and appealing;-)
B) it was more potent and had a high that in those days i could only describe as "...hey this ice stuff feels kinda like the good vibes you get from mdma..."
so i guess apart from studying all the synthesis facts and precise medical descriptions of the difference between methamphetamine/amphetamine, you will have to see which one 'does it' for you .;-)
im a meth fan, but still appreciate high quality speed like mrfire, its the only type of speed ill bother to come out of the woodwork for ;-)
i guess i enjoy a change now and then. i know folk who only touch pure speed, and just dont like meth for whatever personal reason they have, and there are ones who enjoy both.
i hope that gives you a bit of an idea.
i say find the best meth u can, and if you're starting out, smoke in a glass pipe, begin with 30mgs, and go from there. you'll know when youve had enough puffs;-)
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Very detailed post! Thanks for the info. Yeah, what you said makes sense so I guess that's why I haven't found a lot of good info on it. UK's speed seems so cheap so I figured I'd give it a go and compare it to my meth(at about 4-5x the price) experience.
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I saw a study where equivalent doses of dexamphetamine (the "good part" in EU amphetamine/adderall) and methamphetamine were given orally to people. Something like 30mg dex to 15mg meth, for example. There was no general preference for either drug in terms of liking the effects and they seemed almost indistinguishable.
On Youtube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wNS_aRxTqs
Main difference is meth lasts much, much longer and can be smoked. I personally find that it has much greater euphoria but is less suitable for doing things. After a few days on amphetamine my house is very tidy - with meth, its tidy for a day then somehow becomes extremely untidy 8)
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After a few days on amphetamine my house is very tidy - with meth, its tidy for a day then somehow becomes extremely untidy 8)
LOL ;D What a great comparision, you freak, but you are ABSOLUTELY right!
of course it´s very, very tidy and clean, everything is perfect,
but - with meth it´s tidy, super-excellent-tidy, for a day,
and somehow it´s becoming extremely untidy .......
LMAO - Pretty Great! 8)
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I saw a study where equivalent doses of dexamphetamine (the "good part" in EU amphetamine/adderall) and methamphetamine were given orally to people. Something like 30mg dex to 15mg meth, for example. There was no general preference for either drug in terms of liking the effects and they seemed almost indistinguishable.
nice one lawnmower :)
i wish they called me up for the trials lol :) hehe
That test result makes sense when using pure sources for the comparison. Dextro-amphetamine as opposed to Levo-amphetamine is what gives the euphoria as does quality Meth that consists of mainly D-meth .
Heres some good info from SG that explains it well. (depends on the recipe/method whether it has ratio of both Levo-dextro)
what makes for good EoS dope is gear that is mostly or all D-methamphetamine. The d isomer is what is responsible for euphoria, sexual pleasure, and all the good aspects. l-methamphetamine is what gives you pounding heart, shaky hands, raised blood pressure, and cold sweats. Most meth is racemic, meaning a mixture of the 2 isomers, being d,l-methamphetamine. Since 100% d-meth is a hard thing to find, the trick is to test various vendors and batches until you find the one that has the greater level of d-meth. SE last batch was wow..a HIGH ratio of d-meth. xoxo sickgirl
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(.btw EoS refers to 'elixir of sex'the euphoric primo bees knees type gear;-)
Ive been through many trials and tribulation on the hunt for d-meth type gear;-)
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Thanks all, this is some really good information! I wasn't aware of these differing compounds within meth/amphetamine that could make one batch very strongly from the next.
Guess I have some more experimenting to do ;)
Cheers!
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The methamphetamine sticky at the top of the 'Drug Safety' forum is good to read, also.
Try and keep your dosages as low and infrequent as possible. Amphetamines are amazing, but they'll sink their teeth into you right quick.
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Hi everyone,
Im new and just had a question ..Ok so im on parole/probation for many years to come and I take adderall with a legit script so It comes up on my drug tests and thats ok cause of the dr. is there any other amphetamine that would come up the same as adderall that I can use ???? I cant get any dirty urines..I know dont use but if it were that easy... Right now I take between 15-30 pills a day @ 30mg ea...they really dont do much I stopped 100 % for 45 days and started again and not much of a difference so I need something stronger ...Can anyone help me ??? Thanks
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Hi everyone,
Im new and just had a question ..Ok so im on parole/probation for many years to come and I take adderall with a legit script so It comes up on my drug tests and thats ok cause of the dr. is there any other amphetamine that would come up the same as adderall that I can use ???? I cant get any dirty urines..I know dont use but if it were that easy... Right now I take between 15-30 pills a day @ 30mg ea...they really dont do much I stopped 100 % for 45 days and started again and not much of a difference so I need something stronger ...Can anyone help me ??? Thanks
Meth WILL NOT LOOK THE SAME. Now that I've screamed at you, the details: it costs more to test whether positive results for amphetamines are from pharmies or street meth, but they can do it and to my knowledge they WILL do it if you test positive for amphetamines (which at that dose you can be damn sure you will). I suppose it's conceivable that they might not bother, but I really wouldn't risk it.
Dexedrine shouldn't show up any differently than adderall. Vyvanse might -- and I really do mean *might* -- look identical as well. Vyvanse is weird; it's designed to be hard to abuse, and it's actually converted in to the active amphetamine by digestive enzymes (or something like that). So it may look different.
Basically, in a nutshell: dexedrine and adderall will look the same. Any other pharmaceutical amphetamine is risky, but you may be fine. Meth, street speed, etc., will almost certainly get you sent right back in.
I mean this: ease off on the pills, friend. Seriously. It fucking hurts to go without when you're creeping up on a gram a day. You do realize that's moderate or heavy use even among tweakers, right? Unless your script runs out and you don't get anymore till you get the next... the break inbetween will even it out, but if you do that every day without ever stopping, you're almost as stupid as I am, bro.
... If you really need a kick, and you're willing to fuck yourself up in ways nobody really knows about yet and you're POSITIVE you won't get tested for at least 4 days (5-7 would be safer)... Combine 2-fma (2-fluoromethamphetamine, a research chemical; can find it here pretty often -- snort it), your adderall (swallow obviously), meth (doesn't matter, just get it in you), and a couple of caffeine pills or a few cups of coffee. Sounds laughable, but the caffeine makes a real difference. Do NOT do it for more than a day or two at a time. For one, your heart may explode for all I know (fuck if I know why mine never gives me trouble). For two, nobody knows what 2-fma does to you. It'll also show up as meth on your tests. For three, if you keep that up, you won't be able to get out of bed in the morning until you're jacked out of your mind again.
Please do realize that's a very bad idea and you may seriously have an aneurysm. Don't haunt me for killing you or anything, heh.