Quote from: boomtemple on July 07, 2013, 09:51 amFor today's installment of: WTF Did They Just Smoke?This product hails from the land of maple syrup coming from a vendor that's been around quite some time, is found in a crushed state and has a white complexion.First bowl yielded a wonderful 8 hours of sleep immediately after (preceded by a week of 4 hour nights).The next day, a double-sized bowl yielded an odd high feeling, several yawns, and a tremendous hot flash that lasted 10 minutes. The odd high continued for quite some time, the yawns coming and going. No pupil dilation to speak of, no expected body signals of stimulants being present.So, can you correctly answer the question, "WTF Did They Just Smoke?"Let me guess, MarijuanaIsMyMuse? For awhile back when I was awfully new people swore by him... I tried his gear and had basically the same experience as you. Never went back. Don't think anybody's had anything good to say about him for a few months now, but I can't really recall much of any comments about him either way... maybe I'm just blanking.Quote from: fractalglobal on July 07, 2013, 09:22 amSomeone mentioned ephedrine a few pages back, specifically in relation to d-meth. Ephedrine and pseudoephedrine are the same chemical, they are merely isomers of each other, like d-methamphetamine and l-methamphetamine. Unlike meth, ephedrine has 2 chiral centers, meaning that not only is eph/pseudoeph possible, but d-eph, l-eph, d-pseudo, and l-pseudo.Lots of complicated chemistry follows involving regioisometric inversions etc. the important thing to know is:l-ephedrine = d-methamphetamined-pseudoephedrine = d-methamphetaminelikewise d-eph and l-pseudo = l-meth.The problem I have with the ephedrine vendors on the road is that it's impossible to tell if they are vending dl-eph or l-eph. The pills are almost certainly l-eph, most commercially produced ephedrine is done via yeast fermentation of benzaldehyde then reduction amination of the resulting l-PAC.(Note the "l") However the cost added to the Aus customs issues make it undesirable to import large quantities of pills. Added to that, I have no idea if the listings for pure ephedrine are racemic or stereospecific.Awesome man, thanks for the info. I'd read all over that d-pseudo and l-ephedrine yield d-meth, but never had any idea why. That makes a lot of sense. I'm going to file that away in my head as true and not bother fact checking it, so if I end up with a head full of lies... I blame you :P