Quote from: Darktime on May 20, 2013, 01:40 pmI get what your all saying is that the meth turns to a very viscous liquid when heated so will run off the foil easily unlike h which is pretty easy to control.I might just get in the shed and construct something from a lightbulb then.Also from what ive seen,everyone uses a turbo lighter.is it because its a cleaner flame or hotter? the normal lighters leave lots of soot but turbos are no good for foil cos it rips it up.It really isn't hard; it is a viscous liquid, but it's kind of like... well, it's actually a lot like hot maple syrup that you just take out of the microwave or something. It's a lot easier to use foil than it seems.It really is more efficient to use something else and a light bulb is awfully easy with just a pair of pliars, but I've seen more than a couple of people who prefer foil.