Quote from: jundullahi on May 19, 2013, 07:19 amQuote from: Miah on May 19, 2013, 06:22 amThat's a good point Self. That's something that I've wondered myself for the longest time and the only conclusion I came up with is it's not whether the moral is good or bad because as you said it is very subjective. It's what action or events come because of you having that moral and how it affects the people around you. We some of us came to the conclusion that good and evil is relative and subjective right?Is relative and subjective to us human. Because we have different up-brings live experiences and culture. So only God knows what is good and what is bad because as the Creator an ultimate Judge He has should have the final word.Because we humans be nature will always disagree amongst ourselves.But that is my opinion.If there were a divine creator, well... by virtue of being "divine" I suppose you'd be right. But frankly, I don't care whether he created me or not: if he created me without the capacity to comprehend right and wrong, then I fail to see how I can be blamed for anything I've done wrong. Including believing he doesn't exist in the first place.I think it really hinges on your conception of "divine creator." So what if he created me? I don't believe he's divine. Fuck 'im.God, I really do have an issue with being too blunt and offensive sometimes don't I... I really don't intend offense, sincerely I don't: it's just the most expedient way of illustrating my thoughts on the matter. Besides, I'm insulting somebody I don't believe in, not you guys -- so why take offense? ::)