I too would love to try some real 4-MAR (infact I refuse to call meth "ice" because I always thought ice was 4-MAR and it's confusing to mix the terms, but whatever). I'll say this though, I know exactly what you mean with that limitless reference (cool movie too, hah). Sometimes with good stuff you just... you see it all. I mean sometimes it's almost like child's play, and you just get it. You just see all the ends, all the ins and outs, and it's all so clear.God I love that frame of mind. I'd kill to stay in that frame of mind forever. But it's really hard to get to... doesn't happen much. And I've noticed no patterns as to when it's most likely to occur, no foods or sleep patterns or anything like that. Seems to just happen when it wants to. But I've gotten it off meth once or twice, off adderall a lot, from dexedrine once or twice... so for me, at least, it's not necessarily indicative of actual ice (4-MAR). It's possible ice gets you there more often, or fuck for all I know every time (never tried real 4-MAR), but I know plain amphetamine and methamphetamine can get me there themselves regardless. Just a data point or two for your consideration.