Quote from: looselucy on December 03, 2012, 06:50 amWhat a load of BS--only psychologically addictive? I recall that being said about cocaine in a Playboy article glamorizing it back in the 70's. Sure Hugh and the gang would like to recant as in it still has the power to basically destroy your life and has done precisely that favor for many so only psychologically addicted. Fast forward another 20 and I have by then spent 5 years working on a PhD in neuroscience, have an MD degree and have treated dozens of meth addicts who just cant seem to say no. We get them at the the end of runs when the haven't ate or slept for days. They crash for 20/24 hours for the first couple. They tweek the entire time in treatment and often benefit from antispychotics and need to be watched liked hawks for the duration of their stay. The heroin addicts are thru the worst of it in 3 days and generally much healthier in every way. Don't need antipsychotics for sure. In short absolute drivel from someone with no scientific/addictionoolgy background wishint it were so. Like any drug including EtOH, take at your own risk. This particular bad boy/meth/has the poorest recovery stats of nearly any drug including H. Not absolutely futile but damn close in many instances. And yes hyperthermia'convulsions remain a medical risk.This is complete, total, and utter bullshit. Do not listen to a fucking word this person said. I would have pointed it out earlier, but I hadn't looked in this thread since my last post. God, how damaging to a recovering addict can you be -- meth addiction has a very similar recovery rate to other drugs. If you want to stop, YOU CAN. I promise you. I will die an addict, personally -- the life I can have without amphetamines is not what I consider "life." Period. But don't fuck up other people's heads saying it's impossible. You're a God awful therapist if you really are one, and you should be ashamed. Help people, don't fucking hurt them and tell them it's almost impossible. Jesus Christ.Quote from: fractalglobal on January 04, 2013, 08:28 amFirst thing you want to do is look up a dosage table, from memory, its something like 20/13/8 methylphenidate/dexamphetamine/methamphetamine.So figure out how much methamphetamine you want as an equivalent to your standard dexamphetamine dosage(I believe adderall is roughly 50% dexamphetamine sulfate/succhrate, not sure though)Next, figure out how many ml of liquid is in each spray, there are several ways to do this, I'd mix a small, measured amount of meth with water, spraying it on a glass tray, and evaporating, compare the amount of meth on the tray with the mg/ml ratio of meth/water in the bottle. Adjust accordingly.Adderall is 75% the dextro- isomer (is enantiomer better usage here? Any chemists know?) and 25% the levo- isomer. It's dextroamphetamine sulfate, dextroamphetamine sacharrate/sacharride, racemic amphetamine sulfate, and racemic amphetamine monohydrate. Racemic means equal parts dextro- and levo-, so that adds up to 75% dextro-, 25% levo-. Note that the levo- isomer of non-methylated amphetamine is more active than the levo- isomer of methylated amphetamine (which is methamphetamine), so you should probably count the levo- part of adderall more or less equally.