Quote from: verderer on January 03, 2013, 12:32 pmQuote from: iMaverick on January 03, 2013, 11:57 amsorry for stupidity, but are there any ways to buy bitcoins using paypal or credit card? this stuff drives me crazy :(From the UK, you could try this method instead, but it does involve both a bank transfer and trading from Euros to Bitcoins...1. Use transferwise.com to make a transfer to bitcoin-central.net in Euros, as the latter has a French bank account; this takes a couple of days. 2. On bitcoin-central.net, trade your Euros for Bitcoins. If you bid at a rate that someone else is already listed as selling at, it will get accepted straightaway.That's a good point: exchanges are a lot less sketchy than you might think at first. I mean it's basically totally automated. Though I've never used bitcoin-central myself, I imagine it's the same. You just list the price you want to pay with the automated system, and either somebody's selling for that price and it goes through, or it doesn't and you just have an order sitting there that nobody's willing to be the other half of.Just pointing out it's a lot less complex and intimidating than it seems.