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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: zeromancer on June 02, 2013, 11:03 pm

Title: Got scammed..
Post by: zeromancer on June 02, 2013, 11:03 pm
Last week I ordered 100 grams of what was described as "standard marroccon hash". Talked a bit with the vendor before placing the order, and he told me it was not top quality, but standard re-sell hash, so I went ahead and ordered it.

Two days went by, and the package was delivered to my mailbox,  so far all was good..
When I opened the package I immediately saw that this is not at all standard hash, actually I

wouldn't even call it hash. It was a almost black, rock hard and bad smelling piece of something unidentified! It was impossible to break it, and when I heated it a little with my lighter,it smelled real bad, definetly not hash atleast!

I wrote the vendor, asking Wtf was going on, telling him this has nothing to do with hash and that this wasn't what I've ordered. He responded that this kind of hash is estimated to contain 1-2% THC total, and that was considered as standard where he lived!He and his buddys had tested it and "felt" a small high, and that it was nothing more he could do for me. He also claimed the hash to be perfect for beginners,because they wouldn't get sick from it, and suggested I could sell it off to someone less experienced.

Whatever this "hash" is, I wouldn't want anyone to smoke it, and I'll have to throw the 100 g's in the trash, and just take the loss on myself.


The vendor also admitted that if I hadn't finalized,but taken it to resolution center,I probably would have gotten a refund, so obviously he knows he sold me crap!

To cut to the point, some more pm's were sent back and forth, but the vendor was not willing to any solution,and basicly told me to f... off!
I gave him a 1/5 rating, describing why in the commentbox. Now he says he will get my account admitted, (whatever that means?)by the staff for leaving him bad feedback. Can he do that, and what does that mean to me??
And also, do you think leaving 1/5 was to harsh? Should I change it? What would you guys have done?
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: steady01 on June 02, 2013, 11:22 pm
I suppose this is a moot point but was the price too great to pass up ? Well, its similar to buying heroin on SR. Believe it or not the 80 grams suck in comparison to the 250 average. If its too good to be true & you don't know the motherfucker then chill & buy a sample if you must.

As far as the resolution, I am not sure how the res ctr handles quality issues like that. I would not believe anything this vendor tells you, they have proven they can't be professional.. Did you finalize early or before you opened the letter or something like that ?
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: TheJCVD on June 03, 2013, 12:37 am
I'm new, so take my post with a grain of salt.  However I don't think that support will do anything because you left a bad review.  If support didn't want you to leave bad reviews they wouldn't have implemented a feedback system in the first place.  I personally think you're justified in leaving a 1/5, some may feel it's harsh because they delivered a product.  I think that it's a moot point if the product delivered isn't as advertised, especially when what you described sounds like resin to me. 
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: 88fxstc on June 03, 2013, 01:00 am
Leave the freakin review......
this guy burned you, a straight up burn, not....ooops, the quality is a little less than expected, a straight up burn.
Out his Vendor username right here and post his PM's showing he knew he burnt you and woulda refunded, if you didn't finalize .
Fuckem
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: czxtvr on June 03, 2013, 01:14 am
Some vendors here as well as buyers are out of control so you have to use what the system has in place for you to use and right now that seems to be, able to leave positive or negative feedback so do what you must.
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: wraithe on June 03, 2013, 02:08 am
1/5 implies you were scammed.

I would say your situation is more 2/5

product was not as described but you did receive the product

keep in mind if it is too good to be true, it is(as stated earlier)
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: Snooze on June 03, 2013, 02:10 am
fuck him, post his name here. "account admitted"? wtf does that mean? the guy ripped you off. plain & simple. oust his ass,
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: John Gotti on June 03, 2013, 02:15 am
1/5 implies you were scammed.

I would say your situation is more 2/5

product was not as described but you did receive the product

keep in mind if it is too good to be true, it is(as stated earlier)

So a vendor should get a 2/5 if you ordered weed and they sent you dog shit? Fuck that. the guy got robbed. im sick of hearing "well at least something came" when people are sent bullshit.
OP, fuck that guy, post his name and leave the 1/5. 1 percent thc hash, account admitted...holy shit, doesn't matter how they scam, a scam is a scam.
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: PsychedelicSphere on June 03, 2013, 02:51 am
Post the user and destroy his reputation if he doesn't care enough about his rep to send you the product you paid for then fuck him.

~PsychedelicSphere
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: wraithe on June 03, 2013, 02:53 am
im not saying its acceptable but if everyone gives a 1/5 when they are pissed then the real 1/5s goes unnoticed.  You FE'd (mistake #1) you FE'd on a product that seemed too good to be true (mistake #2)

should you out the vendor YES
is a 1/5 deserved? he told u it was shitty and the price reflected it.  I stick by the 2/5 which is still very bad
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: scout on June 03, 2013, 03:40 am
im not saying its acceptable but if everyone gives a 1/5 when they are pissed then the real 1/5s goes unnoticed.  You FE'd (mistake #1) you FE'd on a product that seemed too good to be true (mistake #2)

should you out the vendor YES
is a 1/5 deserved? he told u it was shitty and the price reflected it.  I stick by the 2/5 which is still very bad

^ Agreed.
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: wraithe on June 03, 2013, 03:52 am
there needs to be a sticky that explains the 1/5 to 5/5

5/5 Awesome Transaction would gladly repeat

4/5 Had some hiccups, but would likely buy again

3/5 Had issues, vendor does not communicate but product arrived as described, product took a long time to get here, stealth was bad, etc.  likely NOT to use again

2/5 Product not as described or is of poor quality, vendor is horrible to deal with, product is broken or damaged

1/5 VENDOR IS A SCAMMER RECEIVED NOTHING
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: TheIllusiveDeus on June 03, 2013, 04:44 am
there needs to be a sticky that explains the 1/5 to 5/5

5/5 Awesome Transaction would gladly repeat

4/5 Had some hiccups, but would likely buy again

3/5 Had issues, vendor does not communicate but product arrived as described, product took a long time to get here, stealth was bad, etc.  likely NOT to use again

2/5 Product not as described or is of poor quality, vendor is horrible to deal with, product is broken or damaged


^^This
but actually this should be stickied in the noob section.
1/5 VENDOR IS A SCAMMER RECEIVED NOTHING
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: steady01 on June 03, 2013, 06:02 am
I my neighborhood a scammer wouldnt rate anything beyond a 0 & a dick punch.

I don't always trust the rating system anyways, the forums are where us dope fiends find out who is holding what & for how long or if someone new is around & bears checking out.
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: hexokinase on June 03, 2013, 08:09 am
You're a sucker and he's a filthy fucking scammer. Don't finalize if you aren't 100% satisfied with the transaction, and if you do finalize and didn't leave proper feedback YOU CAN UPDATE YOU'RE FEEDBACK AND SAY THE VENDOR FUCKING SUCKS!!! Why don't people realize this?

If you aren't careful and smart enough to use the Silk Road then GTFO! Use your brains people. This is a place of business for professional criminals, you have to be smart, go slow, do research, and take your time before placing an order with a vendor. It's not fucking brain surgery.
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: BlackIris on June 03, 2013, 08:58 am
1/5 implies you were scammed.

I would say your situation is more 2/5

product was not as described but you did receive the product

keep in mind if it is too good to be true, it is(as stated earlier)

He GOT scammed. That's clearly NOT "Moroccan Hash" as in the product description. If you send another product that you advertise (and it's not an error, but in this case you then apologize and send the correct one) there's no difference at all from not sending it to begin with.

OP: Don't bother about what the vendor tells, you have done all correctly apart FE'ing (and also probably on being too naive; use your brain next time). You would have had the possibility of a full refund if you didn't FE. Anyway please post the name of the vendor so that others know. You can either report him/her to SR staff explaining the situation. Admins usually don't like these sort of things. Scams are NOT accepted in the SR.
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: BlackIris on June 03, 2013, 09:04 am
2/5 Product not as described or is of poor quality, vendor is horrible to deal with, product is broken or damaged

1/5 VENDOR IS A SCAMMER RECEIVED NOTHING

If the product is not what advertised is not just of "poor quality". It simply is NOT what you bought. That's the SAME as receiving anything.

A bad product and a product that is not what you bought are two different things. If you buy "Moroccan Hash" it can be sub-par as you want, but it MUST be Moroccan Hash, if it isn't, it is the same as a scam, because it is the same as if the vendor shipped nothing to begin with for what it concerns the buyer.

The product described in the OP cannot be Moroccan Hash; it has nothing to do with it being sub-par or similar, it simply ISN'T Moroccan hash, much probably is paraffin mixed with standard hash.

Actually depending on the type of product sent it can be either much worse than a simple not shipment. Suppose you inject something without checking it first because you trust the vendor and then s/he sent something that it's all another thing (and possibly either extremely dangerous if injected); it would be better to receive nothing. I know, nobody does that, but it was just to explain the point.
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: zeromancer on June 03, 2013, 11:26 am
1/5 implies you were scammed.

I would say your situation is more 2/5

product was not as described but you did receive the product

keep in mind if it is too good to be true, it is(as stated earlier)

So a vendor should get a 2/5 if you ordered weed and they sent you dog shit? Fuck that. the guy got robbed. im sick of hearing "well at least something came" when people are sent bullshit.
OP, fuck that guy, post his name and leave the 1/5. 1 percent thc hash, account admitted...holy shit, doesn't matter how they scam, a scam is a scam.
My thoughts exactly! He might as well have sent me dog shit, I honestly think that would give me the same high as this "hash".
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: DaveTheRave on June 03, 2013, 11:56 am
Smoking nothing can't give you cancer/<insert other nasties>, smoking diesel/engine oil infested sop bar can.

The rating system is the only recourse a scorned buyer has after finalization. Don't be afraid to exercise your right to use it, you aren't going to loose or jeopardize your account for doing so.
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: zxydwx3 on June 03, 2013, 12:43 pm
1/5 is too generous IMO. You got straight up ripped off. Sorry dude.
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: zeromancer on June 03, 2013, 01:11 pm
im not saying its acceptable but if everyone gives a 1/5 when they are pissed then the real 1/5s goes unnoticed.  You FE'd (mistake #1) you FE'd on a product that seemed too good to be true (mistake #2)

should you out the vendor YES
is a 1/5 deserved? he told u it was shitty and the price reflected it.  I stick by the 2/5 which is still very bad
I'm not giving a 1/5 because I'm pissed, I'm giving it because the guy sent me garbage instead of what I ordered! I was not expecting top of the shelf hash, but I've been around for a while and I know what standard hash is. He did NOT tell me it was shitty nor low-grade, but as I said before "standard marroccon"
I know the risks in FE'ing, but that wasn't the issue here. Also the price was good, but absolutely not too good to be true!
Title: Re: Got scammed..
Post by: zeromancer on June 03, 2013, 01:17 pm
You're a sucker and he's a filthy fucking scammer. Don't finalize if you aren't 100% satisfied with the transaction, and if you do finalize and didn't leave proper feedback YOU CAN UPDATE YOU'RE FEEDBACK AND SAY THE VENDOR FUCKING SUCKS!!! Why don't people realize this?

If you aren't careful and smart enough to use the Silk Road then GTFO! Use your brains people. This is a place of business for professional criminals, you have to be smart, go slow, do research, and take your time before placing an order with a vendor. It's not fucking brain surgery.
If you can't stick to the topic, you don't have to answer at all! You don't know shit about me, so wtf are you on about?!?