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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Railgun on May 31, 2013, 03:46 pm

Title: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: Railgun on May 31, 2013, 03:46 pm
And no not the synthetics.

I don't really enjoy smoking. It really leaves my lungs feeling heavy and my throat sore.  I'm considering getting:

--Honey oil from 420Connections.  If I do, can I just light-bulb vape this?  How much is 1g Honey Oil in terms of grams of the real McCoy?
--Cheeba Chews from NiceDeal.  This seems to last the longest, from the one time I tried edibles.  I am not sure if tolerance goes up faster.  Thinking of Quad dose for value? (I have almost no tolerance)
--Angelina's pops -- Not sure, it seems I can get more punch with the quad dose.

What say you guys?
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: talawtam on May 31, 2013, 05:08 pm
These beauties blew my head off! Totally recommend!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e0f771df1a
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: virmo_new on May 31, 2013, 06:25 pm
Use a vaporizer. Not a light bulb. But this for me is not doable. It's too heavy for my lungs.

You can bake cakes from MJ or HASH or make delicious weed-tea. I don't know how to ship tea and let it stay good otherwise we'd be happy to boil you some delicious weed tea which lasts long, you don't have to smoke and you need less weed for it. But it requires spices so the costs will be about the same...

Best alternative to smoking mj is to not use it at all ofcourse unless you can control yourself and do it occasionally...
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: abitpeckish on May 31, 2013, 07:24 pm
Vaporize it. Do not use a fucking light-bulb. The Magic Flight Box is pretty decent and discreet, I loved mine. Your average box+whip vape does the job quite nicely, but there is a pretty decent learning curve to the technique. If you have plenty of funds, get a volcano vape.

Edibles are always an option, but dosage levels can be a bitch to control. The THC is converted by your liver into a much more potent form, and you will likely end up couchlocked as fuck. I simply cannot deal with eating it, it scatters me.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: Rastaman Vibration on June 01, 2013, 12:59 am
Vaporize. You can use an E-Cig with hash oil, that works really well. E-Cig's are cheap and legal. You can get one for around $40 on Amazon. PM me for recommendations.

I think this is the best way to go. Its discreet and portable, so you can take it on the go and just tell people its an E-Cig and you're trying to quit if they ask what it is. You get a really nice buzz from the concentrates.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: b0lixtrader on June 01, 2013, 01:53 am
Agreed. Vape or eat.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: DoctorFate on June 01, 2013, 02:33 am
Yeah start vaping BHO or Hash oil, there are a few good vendors for some great bho here.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: CannaConnection on June 01, 2013, 02:47 am
Just get the bho and do what we call dabbing in the cannabis community.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: scout on June 01, 2013, 02:50 am
Just get the bho and do what we call dabbing in the cannabis community.

stupid question alert:  what is dabbing?
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: CannaConnection on June 01, 2013, 03:06 am
You have to buy a dabbing rig. It has a vapor dome that comes off the where the bowl area would be on a tiny water pipe. There is either a quartz or titanium nail that sits inside the dome when you place the dome on top. Then you take a decent size jet torch and heat the nail till it turns red hot. Then place the vapor dome on top. once that is done take a drop of BHO and drip it onto the nail plate. Inhale. It gets you super stoned.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: heavysmoker on June 01, 2013, 03:07 am
A torch is used to heat a hot nail up and then the BHO is "dabbed"onto the hot nail and the BHO instantly vaporizes / burns.  The "nail" attachment is often a bubbler or a piece that can be put in the slide of a bong.  The first "dab" you take is like smoking for your first time all over again.  Its a pretty intense way to get a huge amount of THC in your system with a single rip. 
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: scout on June 01, 2013, 03:09 am
Very interesting!!  I'm kind of old school but it's taking a toll on my lungs, so all of these alternates are cool sounding!
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: ChemCat on June 01, 2013, 03:17 am
i had no clue what dabbig was either until i seen RS and mary speak of it in the spare coin thread  LOL

you gonna try some scout?  i'm thinking of getting this volcano thing  LOL

then getting some oil ? i guess LOL

oh fer fawks sake just bring back 1970 to me  LOL

Peace & Hugs,

ChemCat  O0
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: ChemCat on June 01, 2013, 03:19 am
i'm talkin i'm so old school that i still have the isomizer 2000 that my wife and I made oils and hash in .... in '78
LOL
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: scout on June 01, 2013, 03:26 am
i had no clue what dabbig was either until i seen RS and mary speak of it in the spare coin thread  LOL

you gonna try some scout?  i'm thinking of getting this volcano thing  LOL

then getting some oil ? i guess LOL

oh fer fawks sake just bring back 1970 to me  LOL

Peace & Hugs,

ChemCat  O0

i have a volcano, but i actually dislike it because all i taste is plastic and i don't feel any effects.  i do have a high tolerance for drugs though, so it might just be my body's unwillingness to get high.  lol
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: Rastaman Vibration on June 01, 2013, 06:52 am
You have to buy a dabbing rig. It has a vapor dome that comes off the where the bowl area would be on a tiny water pipe. There is either a quartz or titanium nail that sits inside the dome when you place the dome on top. Then you take a decent size jet torch and heat the nail till it turns red hot. Then place the vapor dome on top. once that is done take a drop of BHO and drip it onto the nail plate. Inhale. It gets you super stoned.

I just load a little drop of oil right into the vape and i'm good to go.  I use the poker tool that comes with it. You have to heat it with a lighter to get the oil to liquify a little and slide off. Lol, its a bit of a precision operation, but I've got it down to a science ;) Once the vape is loaded, you got enough to be VERY high for a nice while. That shit is potent. Just push the button, oh yeah 8)
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: ozzietrader on June 01, 2013, 07:32 am
I don't mind smoking cause my vaporizer is broken, but I don't have it too much these days, but always love it when I do :)

Weed is overall my my favorite drug, but I do others too (lots lol)
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: dabdiego on June 01, 2013, 08:43 am
Chem and Scout,

Can't recommend dabbing enough. Coming from someone who's SR name is written as a reference to it  :)
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: abitpeckish on June 01, 2013, 08:25 pm
i have a volcano, but i actually dislike it because all i taste is plastic and i don't feel any effects.  i do have a high tolerance for drugs though, so it might just be my body's unwillingness to get high.  lol

Do you have the digital or the analog? If all you can taste is the bag, then I doubt the temp is high enough. The taste of vaporized marijuana is both quite nice and unmistakable.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: FollowIcculus on June 02, 2013, 01:06 am
Just get the bho and do what we call dabbing in the cannabis community.

stupid question alert:  what is dabbing?
You just opened up a whole new can of worms.  Dabs are a way of life brah.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: DMTisinME on June 02, 2013, 03:01 am
I've always known dabbing as "hot-knifing," there's no difference right? Personally, I'm a vape man. My favorite is the vapexhale cloud. Blows every other vape out of the water. I also like the plenty vape and the volcano, as well as a couple others, but I've tried them all and owned most.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: dabdiego on June 02, 2013, 06:29 am
I've always known dabbing as "hot-knifing," there's no difference right? Personally, I'm a vape man. My favorite is the vapexhale cloud. Blows every other vape out of the water. I also like the plenty vape and the volcano, as well as a couple others, but I've tried them all and owned most.

Same thing, more or less. dabbing usually refers to smoking bho, butane based hash oil, through some sort of glass medium (i.e. bong, bubbler, etc.) that has been fitted with either a dome and titanium nail or titanium pad. the oil is "dabbed" onto the heated titanium piece and vaporized. Sorry if that was wordy or didn't make sense, just took a dab myself haha.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: mdpro on June 02, 2013, 06:48 am
This is too funny.  I JUST finished posting this in another thread discussing alternatives to smoking marijuana.  I shall paste it here as well:

For your THC vaping pleasure, I have some listings you should check out.  Vaping produces no carcinogens.  Nothing burns therefore there are no harmful byproducts.  This is one of the main benefits of the electronic cigarette for tobacco smokers.  It cannot be said to be 100% safe (but what can be?), but vaping THC poses very little if any health risk while providing some very beneficial chemicals.  The symptom relief one gets from cannabis should not be affected by the route of ingestion, just the onset and duration of the relief.

If you're just getting started or want to take it up a notch, I have some raffles that I just listed for complete kits
- Beginner kit: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ef157d994a
- Advanced kit: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/2c74721bd8

If you've already gotten started vaping and just need the THC to vape, I have some listings for you as well
- Prefilled cartomizer: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/1776d7edf0
- Dropper bottle of e juice: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ea08ff6621

Vaping THC is certainly becoming a more common method of ingestion.  It is very customizable and virtually undetectable unless you are in a confined space vaping for an extended period of time using a non-flavored product!
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: Herbalizer47 on June 10, 2013, 01:13 am
I'm going to have to agree with everyone else here who suggest using a vaporizer. It's more clean, smooth, and a more efficient use of your bud.

Personally I use the Pax (small discreet portable vape), and I love it. I happen to prefer portable vapes over the tabletop ones, mostly for the stealth and convenience factors. The only downside is it can be a little high-maintenance for some; personally I don't mind, but you do have to clean it out with iso every few bowls or it won't work as well (due to resin buildup in the vapor path and the mouthpiece switch mechanism getting gummed up).
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: Herbalizer47 on June 10, 2013, 01:22 am
Another thing to consider is tinctures and other exctacts in liquid form. Look up OldHippie's recipe for green dragon if you're not familiar with it. It's super discreet, as you can simply keep it in a little amber glass bottle with an eyedropper, and put a few drops in a tasty drink of your choice. Citrus flavors in particular seem to mask the harsh taste; a tequila sunrise or screwdriver are perfect. Also, about 1-2ml is enough to give most people a really nice, mellow body high for a few hours. You can get some really nice cerebral high effects as well if you use high-quality headies in your recipe.

A minor safety disclaimer: don't use the double-boiler method unless you're sure you know what you're doing, and make sure the alcohol fumes are well ventilated away from your stove/heating element. Otherwise, I'd recommend the heatless "slow-and-safe" method.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: oldtoby on June 10, 2013, 01:33 am
i have a volcano, but i actually dislike it because all i taste is plastic and i don't feel any effects.  i do have a high tolerance for drugs though, so it might just be my body's unwillingness to get high.  lol

Interesting. Not my experience at all, either in flavour or effect, but then I'm currently working on some nasty ass mj - powerful but I don't like the taste/smell, so I certainly don't get any plastic cutting through that. As for strength, well... those who have been here for a little while may recall me talking about use of my cheap Chinese box whip, and taking 200-300 tokes off of it in an evening (if it seems hard to believe, it is for me now, too, but that's what I did). And then I got a Volcano and carried those habits over... lol. I realize I need some fucking discipline because lately I've been waking around 4am with the tv on and me ranting and gesticulating at the remote control to kill the fucking thing. It knocks me the shit out. That said, that discipline thing, again. I'm sucking back 3-5 bags by my lonesome. It's clearly too goddamn much.

As for the main topic, yeah, vape away. That said, the vapour produced by the better rigs (Volcano included) is THICK, man, and I find it sometimes irritates my throat and I'll have a bit of a coughing spell. I just read someone else saying that vapes make their asthma act up. I know it's vapour and not smoke (and I am operating the thing at vape temps, not burning it) but it is definitely smoke-like I have to say. Though I say that and then try smoking a joint and it's just this AWFUL BURNING so maybe not that comparable at all.

Wish there were more/better edibles on the Road, as I do find that route enjoyable.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: ThisUsernameIsTaken on June 13, 2013, 07:03 pm
This is the exact thread I been looking for all week.

I am in an area that smells can waft over and attract unwanted attention, so I've been enjoying Angelina's pops all this time, however it takes some time for them to really kick in. Pot Brownies are the same thing, great and take very little - but take time to really drive into gear.  Chebba Chews was next on my list.

Now you guys got me looking at this e-cig vapor smoking,  I got some research to do.

PAX starts at $250.... Hola la Ching Gow.

Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: marti on June 13, 2013, 08:38 pm
Do some butter and add it to the toasts. There are good recipes on the clearnet.
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: ThisUsernameIsTaken on June 13, 2013, 09:08 pm
I found this link for a new vaporizer called the Da Vinci Ascent. I think I'm going to break down and get it, and wanted to share the information as this thread sparked my interest. It's not on the market just yet, but almost  - and someone actually got a hands on review

clearlink warning clearlink warning : h t t p : / / fuckcombustion.com/threads/ascent-vaporizer-by-da-vinci-pre-sale-thread.8179/page-124

anyhow, the bullet points from the review if you don't want to bother the link :

- Herbs & Oils
- temp range between 0-430 F
- MINE HEATED UP FROM 0 - 375 in EXACTLY 35 SECONDS!
- 2 year limited warranty and 3 months battery warranty
- Battery takes 5 hours to completely charge; lasts 3 hours :rockon:
- IT CAN BE USED WHILE ITS CHARGING!
- Fits in Pocket similar to cell phone
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: tutupa on June 13, 2013, 10:01 pm
Just cook yourself your edibles. It will be fun and you will enjoy more the high :P
Title: Re: Recommend Best Alternatives to Smoking MJ
Post by: b0lixtrader on June 13, 2013, 11:09 pm
You can also make cannacaps.  simple and easy too make.

Comes handy and easy to take as well.