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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Chaosforpeace on May 08, 2013, 12:13 am
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I am only posting this because this asshole called me out in his profile.
This stupid fucker thought he could scam me as he did on his previous few accounts to others. His last two accounts were banned by the road because he was caught scamming.
Here is the account were he calls me out. Here is my case in resolution word for word.
I lost allot of money recently and have basically had to start over, this guy just tried to basically fuck everything over for me by trying to steal a few grand. I had just lost everything and his amazing deal of 28 ounces of high quality weed for around 3,000$ I couldn't pass up. I figured I could use the money I made from selling what he gave me to start again. I should have realized it was to good to be true.
Buyers beware as he said he will open again and he sprays the weed which he does give out with harsh chemicals to make it weigh more
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a87625b8eb Weedheaven/hydroponics/cocezero
This is just copied from the resolution center. I edited out tracking numbers and his address for anonymity's sake:
I now know about your previous accounts and everything. You have scammed before and obviously are still scamming. I am a trusted member here and well known on the forums. How did you expect to get away with fucking me like this?
Here is all of the info:
This seller is the seller hydroponics who is also cocezero who was banned three times from the road. A seller who was known to spray down his products with harsh chemicals to make them weigh more. He told me some false information that one of the admins was out to get him and that was why he was banned twice. I, being stupid, believed this fraud. He told me we could finish our business on the website the black market reloaded. This is where I learned that he was also the vendor cocezero. Here is the link he gave me to his account on the black market reloaded which is the same name as the account he previously had here on the road which he scammed people with:
http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=viewUser&id=109105
Here is the custom listing which he still left up on the black market:
http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=22669
Here are forum reports of him and his selective scamming under that name:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=124655.msg855885#msg855885
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=120260.msg819006#msg819006
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=116599.0
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=126718.msg873522#msg873522
Here are some messages between he and I.
To: cocezero
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From: cocezero
Date: 2013-04-22 20:32 UTC
Subject: RE: Hey man about the custom listing
Message:
sorry but I wouldn't know how bro
try mtgox or btc-e
however there it takes a little time to get your money on
I will think and see what i can do.
From:Chaosforpeace
Date: 2013-04-23 00:27 UTC
Subject: RE: Hey man about the custom listing
Message:
I'm going to offer something to you. I can't do this transaction on BMR because BMR is terrible for business. I have been scammed literally 30 times on here. Even with Escrow!!!
Our deal is 2975$ for 28 ounces of kush. I want to do this transaction on the Silk Road. I'm going to have about 3,211$ in bitcoins or a little more or less. I'm going to pay you all 3211$ + or - a little so that you can pay for a vendor account so we can do the transaction there. You can use this account only for me as a client if you would like. And when I receive these 28 ounces I will immediately reup and I will pay 250$ extra on price, to compensate for the remaining part of the vendor account fee. I have a buyer set up to buy another two pounds when I receive the 28 ounces.
Tell me what you think.
Chaos
Even with the fact that I paid for his account he still scammed me. I trusted this person stupidly. I am demanding my full funds back.
Here is a message from him on the road:
hydroponics Alright so here is the deal my account has been suspended once again by the same admin here on SR
SR is going to shit, me and other vendors that have been here for a while (the same thing is happening to them one admin is shutting down profiles very focused on the weed vendors) are moving to another website. We are working together to get a better and safer community up and running in the next two weeks where we can supply everything we have been here for a lot cheaper.
to supply my customers with weed I will open another vendor account here for the 2 weeks I will provide the new name tomorrow.
as for the weed I am picking it up tomorrow and can send pics and more info then
hydrogirl 4 days read
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This is from a couple weeks ago:
hydroponics not my choices lol
some retards that cant read a profile complained that i didnt send out their orders in time even though i clearly said it will take longer in the profile
so i will be "gone" until SR fixes this mistake
i am sure it wont take long 10 days read
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Chaosforpeace Dude what happened?? Is everything ok? I was really looking forward to working with you and now you disappeared.
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And this is where he made this account:
hydroponics my new account is weedheaven
i will have listing up and everything set by today 2 hours unread
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My theory is he scammed me to get back the money he paid for all those accounts which he got banned from. He also said something about getting broken into and all of his money stolen. Also that he needs money to pay for medical school. Here is the tracking number on the empty packages:
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USPS.
All that was inside each box( there are two) were two large books. Funny enough when you weigh both packages together with the box's they way a little under 3 pounds. I'm assuming he sent me something so that he could give you a tracking number and you could find out that the packages did weigh something.
You could say that possibly a mailman or neighbor opened and stole the contents, BUT THE BOX WAS SEALED COMPLETELY.
Either he scammed me or worse, I'm about to have myself arrested by the police, as they are the only ones who can reseal a box like that. If that's the case then I still blame him for packaging it poorly.
Here are a few messages between he and I on his weedheaven account, this is from end to beginning so you might want to start from the end of these messages where it says begging backwards to here where it says end:
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weedheaven(100) you know what yes send it to resolution
now it makes sense why you wanted to buy it with your "new" account fucking scammer
books? like the cops would ever do that
and there is escrow that would be the worst try to scam anyone wow
thx loser I try to do you a fav and it bites me in the ass
this is my medical school money you scum 3 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 And if anything that proves you are scamming. Trying to grab 1600 free dollars. Ill be bringing this to resolution.
How low can you be. I told you this was all I had and you just gladly try and walk away with it.
Chaos 4 days read
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weedheaven(100) I cut you a deal on our transaction I was only going to make 100 $ so if anything then we can do 50/50 as your story really doesn't ad up very well 4 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 I received both box's. if you weigh the packages with the books the total is about 30 ounces which makes sense if you were trying to scam me, so you would have proof of the weight. My stats and name prove me. Either you scammed me and understand from my perspective someone who was banned three times seems like they might just try and scam, or the police are about to come and take me away. Either way I am demanding a full refund. I look at this like this. If you packaged poorly enough that it leaked or somehow got caught, it's your fault. And if you are trying to somehow scam me, it's also your fault.
What are we going to do?
Chaos 4 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 I received both box's. if you weigh the packages with the books the total is about 30 ounces which makes sense if you were trying to scam me, so you would have proof of the weight. My stats and name prove me. Either you scammed me and understand from my perspective someone who was banned three times seems like they might just try and scam, or the police are about to come and take me away. Either way I am demanding a full refund. I look at this like this. If you packaged poorly enough that it leaked or somehow got caught, it's your fault. And if you are trying to somehow scam me, it's also your fault.
What are we going to do?
Chaos 4 days read
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weedheaven(100) Wow idk what to say that's the adress I put on
Did you get 1 or 2 boxes?
I would make sure your place is clean just in case
I sent it belive me I mean sr has escrow so the book thing wouldn't really work now would it
Idk what happened 4 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 This is the return address:
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Don't fuck me. Explain then, where is the weed??
Chaos 4 days read
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weedheaven(100) I sent you 2 packages each with around 1 lb 4 days read
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weedheaven(100) Bro honest t o god I sent you exactly what u ordered what was the return address? 4 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Be honest with me. I opened the box's and all there were was two books and no product. Just tell me you stole my money. I beg you because the other option would be the package was opened by the police and then professionally resealed. Which means I am going to be going to jail.
Just be honest and tell me you stole it. I mean I fucking helped pay for this account, I even told you this was all of the money I had. I am expecting a full refund.
I honestly don't understand how you thought you would get away with this.
Message me back immediately!!
Chaos 4 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 0 4 days read
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weedheaven(100) hey just checking in about the order 4 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Ill be home to check it out when I get off of work in a few hours. The tracking says it arrived.
Can't wait to bust it open.
Chaos 8 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Ill be home to check it out when I get off of work in a few hours. The tracking says it arrived.
Can't wait to bust it open.
Chaos 8 days read
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weedheaven(100) Im glad it went fast :)
Chaosforpeace2 Holy shit. Its already out for delivery today. Can't wait to receive this. Ill finalize the second the post man drops it off.
Your awesome.
Chaos 8 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Holy shit. Its already out for delivery today. Can't wait to receive this. Ill finalize the second the post man drops it off.
Your awesome.
Chaos 8 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Awesome. Can't wait to get it.
Chaos 8 days read
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weedheaven(100) --------------(DELETED) 9 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Thanks man 9 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Oh, it's --------(DELETED).
Chaos 9 days read
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weedheaven(100) I sent your package and 6 other ones at the same time so they gave me a list with tracking number and it has the zip of the address behind it so I know what tracking goes to what package so if you want your tracking I need your zip 9 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Now I'm really confused. You send seven packs to me? What does that have to do with zip?
Help me out here
Chaos 9 days read
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weedheaven(100) If you want your tracking number? I sent out about 7 packs 10 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 I'm confused why would u need my zipcode again?
Chaos 10 days read
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weedheaven(100) Went out lol if you want the tracking send me your zip again 10 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Any updates? 10 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Great thanks 10 days read
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weedheaven(100) Dont worry lol I got it covered not my first time 10 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Don't forget that you can't send a package over 13 ounces with stamps via usps.
Chaos 10 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 Awesome thanks so much
chaos 10 days read
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weedheaven(100) It will go out tomorrow morning dont worry 10 days read
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Chaosforpeace2 I just placed the order and I really would like it if I received this by monday. Please ship it immediately.
thanks 10 days read
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I will supply any other information you require. I used this account (chaosforpeace2) instead of my chaosforpeace account because I am turning that account into a vendor account and I wanted to add some purchases to this account. This money literally is everything to my name currently. I even told that to this devil. He couldn't take pity and just told me that nothing was coming and refunded me. I have never dealt with any trash as low as a thief who is willing to steal from someone who has nothing.
Chaos
Weedheaven/cocezero/hydroponics:
This is very easy
I sent you the weed I have a tracking number and you are just trying to steal my stuff
You picked your new profile so that your old one wouldn't get fucked up doing this.
Idk where you are getting the messages from that you posted its pretty easy to fake them so that doesn't count for shit
I offered you a 50/50 because I felt bad for you until I noticed you are just trying to rip me off
I did you a favor and sold it to you at cost you freaking scum.
Either way karma will get you for it even if sr staff belives your bullshit and I really dont have time for this shit weedheaven
Chaosforpeace:
Here are the stats on my profile chaosforpeace:
Total transactions: --------
Total spent: ----------
Refund rate: ---------
Auto-finalize rate: -------
Member for: ----------
And I don't know who you think you are fooling. I will gladly give SR support my password to BMR so they can read our conversation. Your going to lie and say I faked messages. How stupid are you? SR support can read the messages in my account and yours to prove that they are there. So how did I fake that?? Did I get into your accounts and message myself??
Again I ask how did you think you would get away with scamming me? I can't believe how stupid I was to fall for your shit.
As I said, Silk Road support, I will give you my passwords if needed and I feel this thief should do the same if he wants to claim bullshit that the messages don't exist.
This can be compared to a person going in front of a security camera, robbing someone else at gun point, then claiming, "That's fake!!! I never did that."
You have put my life on hold by stealing my only money I have left and I demand full return.
Chaos
Scammer/bullshit artist/scum/weedheaven/cocezero/hydroponics:
No one cares about your other stats you didn't risk your other stats you risked this account you loser weedheaven
Chaosforpeace:
I'm still not understanding how you plan on getting away with this.
Chaos
There is no sympathy for me as I clearly shouldn't have gone through with this. I just assumed because of the full escrow I didn't have to worry.
This is the first time someone has really tried going out of their way to scam me on the road. I still can't figure out how this person figured this would go down. What that I would take a 50% refund and he would walk away with half of my money and call it a day?
I hope you read this you piece of garbage.
As always, peace and much love to the haters,
Chaos
Also don't comment on this if you don't read through the whole thing.
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subbed good luck
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subbed good luck
Thanks, I'm just waiting on SR support to step in.
Chaos
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I passed this info along, thank you for posting it!
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Thanks scout much love
Chaos
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Now it is in the hands of The road. Now the fucker is saying because he didnt get the money he wasnt able to get into med school. He is trying to get pity from SR staff and it is pathetic. He is calling me a scammer even with my veracity being known, plus he has scammed multiple times and been shut down by SR for it.
If he is granted anything than this is a sad day on the road.
I have never had one transaction go bad, this person is worse than scum for trying to scam me, taking everything I have.
Chaos
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I responded to this message in the resolution center with the following:
Weedheaven:
0% there is no getting away with it you fucking scamer
I hope you die I just lost my school spot for not being able to pay GO FUCKING DIE weedheaven 41 minutes
May 11, 2013, 5:53 am UTC accept
Chaosforpeace:
100% Who I am on the road and forums proves I am no scammer. You have been caught scamming several times. Your bullshit will not convince anyone. You took everything I have and are making up this story to get pity. It's not going to work. You can refer here for a link to my quote on this via the forums:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=157052.0
Who are you trying to fool at this point? Not only will karma get you back for this attempt to scam a good person, but I will get the refund and you will be left with nothing but the negative karma over your head. How people like you can exist boggles my mind. By scamming here on the road you obstruct the freedom it represents. Which makes you the lowest of the low
Chaos Chaosforpeace2 57 seconds
May 11, 2013, 6:33 am UTC delete
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I didn't read all the messages in the OP. However, I know enough to be rooting for you, Chaos! I'm sure you'll get what you deserve.
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if you just bought him the account to sell you that weed, how did he have a 100 rating behind his name already?
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What? He spent the money out of pocket and charged me more on the transaction when it occurred.
Chaos
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a little so that you can pay for a vendor account so we can do the transaction there. You can use this account only for me as a client if you would like. And when I receive these 28 ounces I will immediately reup and I will pay 250$ extra on price, to compensate for the remaining part of the vendor account fee.
you encouraged him ?
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a little so that you can pay for a vendor account so we can do the transaction there. You can use this account only for me as a client if you would like. And when I receive these 28 ounces I will immediately reup and I will pay 250$ extra on price, to compensate for the remaining part of the vendor account fee.
you encouraged him ?
Of coarse I encouraged him. I didnt know he was a scammer.
I thought he was legitamite.
Chaos
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Is that what thought did or Greed ???
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If it can happen to you Chaos it can happen to anyone. Good luck with the resolution, I'm sure the staff will decide to reimburse you, and I sure hope they do, because your contributions here on the forums are worth more than any amount of money, especially for those who are new around here.
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I am a friend of choas's and just wanted to update on this thread that he did indeed get a 100% refund from the Silk Road. I am taking it out and putting it straight in his lawyer fund. He is in holding as of now facing a long sentence.
If anyone would like to donate to help him pay for a lawyer it would be much appreciated. The police confiscated all of his cash as evidence and he cannot even pay bail, so he is stuck in holding until his court date. Any amount helps. I have his passwords and will be checking the account regularly
Thanks
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I am a friend of choas's and just wanted to update on this thread that he did indeed get a 100% refund from the Silk Road. I am taking it out and putting it straight in his lawyer fund. He is in holding as of now facing a long sentence.
If anyone would like to donate to help him pay for a lawyer it would be much appreciated. The police confiscated all of his cash as evidence and he cannot even pay bail, so he is stuck in holding until his court date. Any amount helps. I have his passwords and will be checking the account regularly
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Well I would like to point out I personally believe this is a SCAM and here is why that is.
Here is a post from Chaos on 5/15
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=160724.0
"Re: Help a trusted hero member of the Silk Road beat his charges and go free
« Reply #11 on: Today at 08:09 am »
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Quote from: onezero32 on Today at 07:19 am
While it's great you're trying to help your friend, and I hope he get's the help he needs to fight the injustices he's facing. That kid seriously needs to take this as a wake up call that he's not cut out for this kind of thing. After all the dramas he's supposedly gone through over the last few months it's time he finds a new hobby.
Well that is just it. He is a kid who hasn't learned from his mistakes. He kept telling me that this time there was no way for him to get caught. He told myself and one other person. Unfortunately for him that one other person had a run in with the law and rolled on chaosforpeace for everything. I believe he can get out of the serious charges if he just had a good lawyer. In my opinion they are missing allot of proof. As it is they are trying to stick him with a mandatory minimum of 20 years, probably more."
PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE SPELLING OF ALLOT, AS MOST SPELL IT "A LOT" OR "ALOT" BUT FEW SPELL IT "ALLOT"
now look at a post from 4/15
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=148971.msg1027942#msg1027942
"Silk Road discussion / Re: Someone ordered 25 kilos from China 21 days ago
« on: April 18, 2013, 02:21 pm »
Dr. Gonzo is one of the most trusted members of the road. If this was fake than Dr. Gonzo would have been charged an SR fee for buying his own item. At 70,000$ Dr. Gonzo paid SR 1,050$ in fee's.
Most likely this is just a buyer who purchased from the Docter multiple times so he trusts him. It would show allot on how trustworthy the Docter is because if someone else was in the same position with 70,000$, well would you do the same and ship the product or keep it?
Chaos
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PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE SPELLING OF ALLOT, AS MOST SPELL IT "A LOT" OR "ALOT" BUT FEW SPELL IT "ALLOT"
The same ODD misspelling of a word a month before he was arrested
make your own conclusions
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I agree with wraithe, as his shitty grammar and spelling have only slightly improved as well. Seems highly likely to be a scam. ::)
Zommb
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I locked the main thread.