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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: tragicallyhip on April 30, 2013, 01:50 pm
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Hey, so I'm bored as hell smoking a couple morning bowls here and noticed a couple threads over in product offers by vendors saying their going to stick behind SR and fuck atlantis and BMR.
I haven't been a vendor here all that long but I figured I'd start up this thread and say I'm going to stay loyal to SR too. And see what other kinda support I can muster up.
Fuck Atlantis, Fuck BMR.
I'm behind SR.
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Hello,
SR has been good to me....I have excellent customers....and I am not going anywhere :)
Have a new supply of products ready to list: qp's & 1/2's ready to go.
Sour Diesel "with some purple coloring"
Headband
Larrys OG
Kypronite OG X Blowfinsh
Burkle
and 5 new batches of honeycomb wax: GSC, Bullrider, Blowfish, Shiva Skunk, kypronite OG
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+1 man.
Any vendors that would trust a new site, especially one that begot attention by an untraceable DDoS I would not trust with my information. But I understand we all have bills.
FitnessnHerb is here for the long haul.
8)
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Hey, so I'm bored as hell smoking a couple morning bowls here and noticed a couple threads over in product offers by vendors saying their going to stick behind SR and fuck atlantis and BMR.
I haven't been a vendor here all that long but I figured I'd start up this thread and say I'm going to stay loyal to SR too. And see what other kinda support I can muster up.
Fuck Atlantis, Fuck BMR.
I'm behind SR.
I agree 100% and also, Fuck Minnesota!!!
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Why do I keep hearing people talk about "trust" and "loyalty" ? It's getting pretty alarming to be honest. You use Silk Road because it's consistently the best service of any of the other anonymous marketplaces.
If tony76 pulled off his scam now I bet he'd pull 10x what he was able to before.
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Yeah...fuck the other two.
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I've had a very successful run on SR as a vendor for over a year and I cant think of a good reason to go anywhere else. The customers are great, the staff is great, and the overall environment is just fun to be around. I've seen the highs and lows here and this is no different. Long live SR and DPR. I'm staying loyal as long as the DPR flag flys!
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Why do I keep hearing people talk about "trust" and "loyalty" ? It's getting pretty alarming to be honest. You use Silk Road because it's consistently the best service of any of the other anonymous marketplaces.
If tony76 pulled off his scam now I bet he'd pull 10x what he was able to before.
SR supports the use of escrow. It is unfortunate what happened but hell, I've been smashed up with a gun and robbed IRL. To be honest I'd rather have some btc stolen off my computer. That being said, yes, he probably would pull in 10x with SR's current market. But people with good buyer stats should be able to reserve their right to not finalize early. They can refuse to deal with vendors that require FE. There is policies implemented to try to make this place run as smoothly as it can. For everyone!
And people have trust and loyalty for this place because they truly believe in whats going on here. they are going to stand by SR
Fuck atlantis. Fuck BMR.
Other members supporting SR.
AstonMarteen - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=153410.0
Kqueen - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=153461.0
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My point is that Silk Road members and to a lesser extent, vendor customers behaving like a cult is a recipe for disaster. If Silk Road ever goes down these silly "loyalty" people will be the first people to fall with it.
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My point is that Silk Road members and to a lesser extent, vendor customers behaving like a cult is a recipe for disaster. If Silk Road ever goes down these silly "loyalty" people will be the first people to fall with it.
This is true. However the reason I say fuck the other two is that the funds aren't hedged.
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I am SR exclusive.
Search for "Dr.White" on SR
I sell:
-Mid-grade Commercial Weed
-High Grade Commercial Weed
-High Grade Coke
-Medium Grade Coke
-Etizolam
Regards,
DOC 8)
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1st month as a vendor enjoyed every day of it. I hope my 2nd month is going to be even better
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Yeah...fuck the other two.
How the fuck are you doing Lim,
Last I spoke to you, you were nodding off in a Movie Theater on a date. Ha.
-F&H
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I haven't really checked out the others, but I absolutely love the sense of community I've found here at the Road! This place seems to have a lot of good people, and assuming I don't get evicted for not paying my rent, I will be here for the long haul. :)
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My point is that Silk Road members and to a lesser extent, vendor customers behaving like a cult is a recipe for disaster. If Silk Road ever goes down these silly "loyalty" people will be the first people to fall with it.
Thank you for saying this!!! You get a +1
I don't have loyalty to any of the companies I do business with.
I like Fender, but if I see a better deal on a better guitar, you bet I'm going with another brand.
If your Fords keep breaking down, maybe go with a different car company?
I don't do much business on SR, but some people make a living this way, and asking them to put their business on hold is not reasonable when there are competing markets.
Naturally everyone dealing with a new market should be suspicious, but if you're using best practices for anonymity then you should be safe.
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I don't care if you sell on SR, BMR, Atl or your baby momma's front porch. Business is business.
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While we are all about a free market and competition, we will NOT be participating in any other market place until SR is restored to its former glory.
While there is no proof of anything, we can't help but feel (admittedly a gut instinct) that this is a SR rival and not a political stance that has brought SR down.
Once SR is up and running smoothly we would again visit the other markets and weigh if they have any advantage to our business.
With that said we are preparing to set up an independent venture (until SR is back)
All orders that we have currently in SR escrow will remain there. We will not ship "your order" to anyone else and will be fully prepared to ship "your current order" as soon as we have access to SR.
Hey, so I'm bored as hell smoking a couple morning bowls here and noticed a couple threads over in product offers by vendors saying their going to stick behind SR and fuck atlantis and BMR.
I haven't been a vendor here all that long but I figured I'd start up this thread and say I'm going to stay loyal to SR too. And see what other kinda support I can muster up.
Fuck Atlantis, Fuck BMR.
I'm behind SR.
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We totally behind Silk Road.
Its a little sad, we just paid our vendor fee last week ($570.) and haven't cashed anything out yet. We are broke and out of gas money, seriously.
We will stay loyal to our buyers, where ever they want to go. We support DPR 100% and have left lots of money in escrow and in our account they can use to help fund the counter attack. We are also willing to pay DPR even extra money on top of that to help fund a counter attack. Whatever it takes to get us back on.
The fact that there is no contingency plan in place for this is disturbing. All businesses have a disaster plan just in case. It seems our only option is to bunker down and take the hits to face. There really shoud have been a plan in place all along to address this. Its good business sense and good leadership to plan for the future. We would have a solution by now.
Our contingency plan for this business is to continue selling to our customers at all costs. Websites / landlords /storefronts come and go, but its the customers who are the center of all of this. Not vendors, loyalty, or DRP. . its the customers. That's all. Its them we want to please the most. At the same time, we want to show our loyalty to DPR. Can it be done? Of course.
I am loyal and I am a true Libertarian. My loyalty lies with my customers and serving them the best I can. That's my job.
If a fire is burning and the town firetruck has a flat tire do you sit there and try to manufacture a new tire on the road?
Why not just call another fire truck (backup plan) from another nearby town, its just temporary until the fire is out.
Is it the fireman or the people in the burning building that we are helping here?
What is this all about? Supporting the technicians for the site, or supporting the buyers who are threatening to buy elsewhere?
The technicians are paid already, and tthey have the required funds to hire more techies and buy more networks and domains to put this to rest.
We only have a few customers and they are now moving on. can anyone help? some kind of free bitcoins for buyers, or a contest from Vendors or something? . .
Can DPR provide some method for us vendors to keep our buyers here? H E L P. Our very few customers are moving on to other places. . . we need to show our customers that we care about them and their needs and I'm not sure how to express that when they are threatening to go elsewhere. Its a real situation that needs a resolution directly from a leader.
Damn landlord won't take drugs as rent payment. But I'll stay loyal as long as I can keep easting Kraft dinner.
I wish I was wealthy like some other sellers.
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Yeah...fuck the other two.
How the fuck are you doing Lim,
Last I spoke to you, you were nodding off in a Movie Theater on a date. Ha.
-F&H
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Lol yeah that wasn't me at my best haha....
But yeah I'm bang tidy mate, how about you? :)
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I'm loyal to SR and will always be, but being loyal to SR doesnt mean not selling other place. I personally do not sell anywhere else, but It would be very understandable if another vendor were selling on 2-3 markets.
You cannot blame a vendor for selling his product on more then one place... specially when he pay vendor fees on all the site he sell on.
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SupremeSmoke checking in. I won't be using any other marketplace but SR either.
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Long live SR and DRP!
Anyone needs to contant me this seems to be the only place working.
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Brings a smile to my face seeing my fellow vendors staying loyal.
AstonMarteen will not be vending on ANY other site. We are here, we are stocked and operations up and running.
Silk Road has been kind to our business, and we show our gratitude.
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Brings a smile to my face seeing my fellow vendors staying loyal.
AstonMarteen will not be vending on ANY other site. We are here, we are stocked and operations up and running.
Silk Road has been kind to our business, and we show our gratitude.
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we do not see the point of going anywhere........since there is nowhere safe togo...
if the hackers can bring down a super well funded and motivated team as ...SR.....then for 1000% sure hackers (private or governments originated ) will bring down anyone and anything....
THIS...... is the battle of free exchange of info and goods .....as we have never seen before in history.......DPR and his followers are in a deciding battle.....
HollandOnline
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BlueGiraffe will not operate on any other markets. We are with Silk Road exclusively for the long haul. We know the quality of what we sell and so do not need to have additional outlets. Our clients can come to Silk Road if they want to do business with us.
Additionally I trust DPR. He has proved and demonstrated a loyalty and commitment that I respect and intend to reciprocate.
BG
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not that I would trust anywhere else, but where are these other markets even located?
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I know I'm not a vendor anymore, but I will remain loyal to SR.
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SR till the end ;-)
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I know I'm not a vendor anymore, but I will remain loyal to SR.
+1. Awesome man. If the infrastructure, core staff, vendors/buyers stay loyal to this place.. the DDoS end game will fall apart and they will give up.
Trust me on this. They want people to migrate out of here. This is about money, nothing else (says my gut).
Imagine if Scout actually defected over to Atlantis!! Only to really be a double agent, get the scoop on who's hitting us (not pointing fingers..) and sabotage them.
I think we need some spies doing field work during this time. Who knows, maybe we already do?
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I'm a vendor. I'm here to stay.
DPR will prevail.
This is a SR rival/copycat. These attacks are people who want to take away our freedom or control it.
I have thousands in that thing. I won't make rent. I could move to BMR. But I won't.
Stay on board!
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Yet another list? Very well.. *signs on the line*
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i suppose we will as long as SR is still a possibility. we have faith it will be back...hopefully soon
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Unless and until it becomes obvious that SR isn't coming back, and I imagine it'd have to be some sort of formal announcement, I'm not going anywhere.
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I will buy nowhere else as long as we stay well informed and there is a backup very soon! I wish more than anything to remain here.
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I am sick of hearing people saying "this is a free market, I will take my business elsewhere". You know what? TAKE IT ELSEWHERE.
I think I speak for alot of my fellow vendors when I say WE have more to lose then anybody. We have tens of thousands of dollars tied up in Silk Road, yet you hear us crying about it? Nope. But you get the occasional buyer saying he's gonna take his $100 dollar to another marketplace. lol!! Take your $100 dollars and run along now. Nobody stands to lose more then vendors, and take notice how most of us are holding it down right here where we got started.
Jesus christ people have some patience in life.
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This placed has seriously changed my life. It is unbelievable how amazing Silkroad is and I will ALWAYS be loyal to it. I have thought about adding listings to another site that i would ONLY use when Silkroad is down but I won't be doing that..... I have 100% confidence in this site, I would not feel safe AT ALL having money tied up on any other hidden service if something like this happened I would assume all my money lost. DPR has ALWAYS fixed ANY issues that this site has been hit with and I am confident the fight will be won and soon we will be back to business as usual :) The site has been down for longer than this before and DPR and the team have time and time again impressed the fuck out of everyone with what they are capable of. It is very depressing knowing that this is my third day without any sales as the site has been down, so that really is a lot of profit being lost but if it wasn't for the road I wouldn't be making anything at all so I can't bitch about it going down for a few days.....
I am way to old and over/ worn out of the life of selling drugs IRL on the street, so this place has forever changed my life for the better and I will NEVER leave it as long as it is open, which I hope will be forever :)
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oops, replied to wrong thread...
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Why do I keep hearing people talk about "trust" and "loyalty" ? It's getting pretty alarming to be honest. You use Silk Road because it's consistently the best service of any of the other anonymous marketplaces.
If tony76 pulled off his scam now I bet he'd pull 10x what he was able to before.
SR supports the use of escrow. It is unfortunate what happened but hell, I've been smashed up with a gun and robbed IRL. To be honest I'd rather have some btc stolen off my computer. That being said, yes, he probably would pull in 10x with SR's current market. But people with good buyer stats should be able to reserve their right to not finalize early. They can refuse to deal with vendors that require FE. There is policies implemented to try to make this place run as smoothly as it can. For everyone!
And people have trust and loyalty for this place because they truly believe in whats going on here. they are going to stand by SR
Fuck atlantis. Fuck BMR.
Other members supporting SR.
AstonMarteen - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=153410.0
Kqueen - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=153461.0
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due to silkroad being down how r u guys buying stuff now
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The objectives of this attack are to drive SR vendors and buyers to other communities, to damage the community, and to dismantle SR. I think it's obvious that none of that is going to happen. Long live SR and DPR. You have our loyalty.
I read through some threads here, and on Atlantis, and I don't think people are looking high enough. I'm not going to go back through and look for quotes, but I remember this: The Atlantis administration have said (more than once) that the primary drive behind creating Atlantis was to promote Litecoin...not freedom of speech, business, or choice...not a love of computers, drugs, or anything else...Litecoin. SR was the driving force behind Bitcoin, but the two aren't associated. I have little doubt that the Atlantis admin team is actually vested in the Litecoin venture, and vice versa. I, however, don't directly blame Atlantis. This is the work of Litecoin developers. It's a trade war in a relatively unregulated market...Atlantis, SR, and MTGOX happen to be pawns.
84 million Litecoins going from $.01 to $4+ means a huge amount of capital to use in this fight. They have gone up something like $1.50 since all of this started. Even though all of the Bitcoins haven't hit the market, the resources to protect against this type of concentrated attack are spread too thin, and across too large of a scale. This is a divide and conquer strategy being used by a more closely knit organization. They don't want to drive buyers away from SR as much as they want people to not buy Bitcoins. SR plays a larger role in the Bitcoin market than people give it credit.
Litecoin is trying to gain market share. They began promoting themselves aggressively over the past month, and this is all part of it. It leaves me with absolutely no respect for them...instead of having a better product or hitting the market first, they resorted to attempts to undermine the competition.
Sorry...I had to vent. I was going through the loyal vendors, and it put a smile on my face. I'm not a seller, but I like it here, and I'm glad I'm not alone. I would even consider getting my own vendor account on SR, just for shits and giggles. This site is so much fun...I feel like a kid in a candy store. That said, if SR were to ever go down for good, I'm out of the online game, because the other two major sites don't deserve my time.
A huge 'THANK YOU' to the honest and loyal vendors. I appreciate all that you do. :)
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The objectives of this attack are to drive SR vendors and buyers to other communities, to damage the community, and to dismantle SR. I think it's obvious that none of that is going to happen. Long live SR and DPR. You have our loyalty.
I read through some threads here, and on Atlantis, and I don't think people are looking high enough. I'm not going to go back through and look for quotes, but I remember this: The Atlantis administration have said (more than once) that the primary drive behind creating Atlantis was to promote Litecoin...not freedom of speech, business, or choice...not a love of computers, drugs, or anything else...Litecoin. SR was the driving force behind Bitcoin, but the two aren't associated. I have little doubt that the Atlantis admin team is actually vested in the Litecoin venture, and vice versa. I, however, don't directly blame Atlantis. This is the work of Litecoin developers. It's a trade war in a relatively unregulated market...Atlantis, SR, and MTGOX happen to be pawns.
84 million Litecoins going from $.01 to $4+ means a huge amount of capital to use in this fight. They have gone up something like $1.50 since all of this started. Even though all of the Bitcoins haven't hit the market, the resources to protect against this type of concentrated attack are spread too thin, and across too large of a scale. This is a divide and conquer strategy being used by a more closely knit organization. They don't want to drive buyers away from SR as much as they want people to not buy Bitcoins. SR plays a larger role in the Bitcoin market than people give it credit.
Litecoin is trying to gain market share. They began promoting themselves aggressively over the past month, and this is all part of it. It leaves me with absolutely no respect for them...instead of having a better product or hitting the market first, they resorted to attempts to undermine the competition.
Sorry...I had to vent. I was going through the loyal vendors, and it put a smile on my face. I'm not a seller, but I like it here, and I'm glad I'm not alone. I would even consider getting my own vendor account on SR, just for shits and giggles. This site is so much fun...I feel like a kid in a candy store. That said, if SR were to ever go down for good, I'm out of the online game, because the other two major sites don't deserve my time.
A huge 'THANK YOU' to the honest and loyal vendors. I appreciate all that you do. :)
Proof?
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I'm a vendor. I'm here to stay.
DPR will prevail.
This is a SR rival/copycat. These attacks are people who want to take away our freedom or control it.
I have thousands in that thing. I won't make rent. I could move to BMR. But I won't.
Stay on board!
A true Silk Road Here
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Hello,
Though we at T5 are waiting and not moving away, you have to understand that for most top vendors this is a full-time job, and that there are a lot of employees working for these accounts. Top sellers are not one man shows.
Most of the people who moved away did it temporarily. TBMR and Atlantis are pale copies of SilkRoad, any true Silkroader knows the SR is best, and once it's back online everyone will just come back and leave the other websites behind.
Put yourself in the full-time vendors' shoes. Some of us make placements, invest our money elsewhere and etc, but there are other vendors who like to spend a little more and have less money secured. These are the people who might be tempted to temporarily move away so they still get their "salary".
I think a list of "disloyal" vendors is completely useless.
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Hello,
Though we at T5 are waiting and not moving away, you have to understand that for most top vendors this is a full-time job, and that there are a lot of employees working for these accounts. Top sellers are not one man shows.
Most of the people who moved away did it temporarily. TBMR and Atlantis are pale copies of SilkRoad, any true Silkroader knows the SR is best, and once it's back online everyone will just come back and leave the other websites behind.
Put yourself in the full-time vendors' shoes. Some of us make placements, invest our money elsewhere and etc, but there are other vendors who like to spend a little more and have less money secured. These are the people who might be tempted to temporarily move away so they still get their "salary".
I think a list of "disloyal" vendors is completely useless.
Seconded. I have accounts on other sites as a backup but at the moment I am here 100%
Top sellers on SR are operating as small businesses which means there are people standing around over here waiting for things to get going again.
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This placed has seriously changed my life. It is unbelievable how amazing Silkroad is and I will ALWAYS be loyal to it. I have thought about adding listings to another site that i would ONLY use when Silkroad is down but I won't be doing that..... I have 100% confidence in this site, I would not feel safe AT ALL having money tied up on any other hidden service if something like this happened I would assume all my money lost. DPR has ALWAYS fixed ANY issues that this site has been hit with and I am confident the fight will be won and soon we will be back to business as usual :) The site has been down for longer than this before and DPR and the team have time and time again impressed the fuck out of everyone with what they are capable of. It is very depressing knowing that this is my third day without any sales as the site has been down, so that really is a lot of profit being lost but if it wasn't for the road I wouldn't be making anything at all so I can't bitch about it going down for a few days.....
I am way to old and over/ worn out of the life (of selling drugs IRL on the street), so this place has forever changed my life for the better and I will NEVER leave it as long as it is open, which I hope will be forever :)
Hope you dont mind me quoting you but I feel the same and its well said. I never sold anything before SR but everything else is me.
I would just like to add, this site is not about money as much as it is about freedom. It is what it is because of the character and strong beliefs of the man behind it. I bet you my escrow that wont be easy to find anywhere else. The more I learn about him the more secure I feel and I believe in loyalty so if this ship sinks I'll be swimming home.
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This placed has seriously changed my life. It is unbelievable how amazing Silkroad is and I will ALWAYS be loyal to it. I have thought about adding listings to another site that i would ONLY use when Silkroad is down but I won't be doing that..... I have 100% confidence in this site, I would not feel safe AT ALL having money tied up on any other hidden service if something like this happened I would assume all my money lost. DPR has ALWAYS fixed ANY issues that this site has been hit with and I am confident the fight will be won and soon we will be back to business as usual :) The site has been down for longer than this before and DPR and the team have time and time again impressed the fuck out of everyone with what they are capable of. It is very depressing knowing that this is my third day without any sales as the site has been down, so that really is a lot of profit being lost but if it wasn't for the road I wouldn't be making anything at all so I can't bitch about it going down for a few days.....
I am way to old and over/ worn out of the life (of selling drugs IRL on the street), so this place has forever changed my life for the better and I will NEVER leave it as long as it is open, which I hope will be forever
Hope you dont mind me quoting you but I feel the same and its well said. I never sold anything before SR but everything else is me.
I would just like to add, this site is not about money as much as it is about freedom. It is what it is because of the character and strong beliefs of the man behind it. I bet you my escrow that wont be easy to find anywhere else. The more I learn about him the more secure I feel and I believe in loyalty so if this ship sinks I'll be swimming home.
If I could I +1 you two, you just said all I have in mind, but you say it better that I would have done. I 'll be here as long as the road live and I hope it's never end :)
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Long Live the Road :)
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SilkRoad is my corner crack house and I will stick by it through the ups and downs!
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Loyalty? The only loyalty we need vendors to have is to making $ and not scamming. And then there's me following them around... :P. I rather it always be under the flag of DPR, and in a way it will, no matter what happens. Like a patron saint sorta deal.
Most of the vendors who couldn't take the stress of BTC volatility and SR instability and scamming customers and high volume stealth shipping have already packed up and left long ago. Back to street dealing, some at BMR, some being closely monitored at Atlantis (j/k?), others going straight, and some might have made enough to retire to Belize.
The vendors that have stuck it out this long think of multi-day DDoS attacks more like mini vacations, especially with all that spare product laying around. Now the vendors that are really scrapping by and obsessing about FEing, they just aren't tier 1 SR vendors yet... they need to Amazon up their game up.
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I'll be honest I gave it a shot at atlantis but the lay out is crap. I have some orders to finish over there and then I'll be pulling my listings and its all SR from there I never did trust BMR so I wont even go there. SR has been good to me even when i was only a buyer so unless we have an offical word that its finished SR is where I want to do business
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I'll be honest I gave it a shot at atlantis but the lay out is crap. I have some orders to finish over there and then I'll be pulling my listings and its all SR from there I never did trust BMR so I wont even go there. SR has been good to me even when i was only a buyer so unless we have an offical word that its finished SR is where I want to do business
Care you elaborate on the layout? I know it has a lot more features than here. I've always wanted to be able to sort by price. I found the layout far superior.
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Fuck Atlantis and BMR we wait for SR to come up