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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: I_hate_scammers on April 27, 2013, 12:47 am
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I tried to buy some Adderall from Coachella420 today. They were ridiculously cheap; cheaper then anyone that I've seen on the road for a long time. That made me suspicious, but I decided to give him a shot since I couldn't find anything negative about him on the forum.
He sent me a PM within an hour or so saying that he had been scammed by someone in my "area code" (his exact words - he didn't say zip code) and that he'd lost a lot of money. Because of that, he told me I would need to FE. I wrote back and said I never FE and copied my stats in that message, even though I knew he could see them without me doing that. I just wanted to make a point.
Within 5 minutes of that, he canceled my order. Below is a copy of the emails (with my name removed):
"coachella420(100) Hey,
I was looking back, and I noticed a known scammer lives in the same area code as you. I lost alot of money to this guy. I'm not claiming your him, however, i'm going to have to ask your to FE 9 hours read
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Me: "Hi - I'm sorry, there's no way I'm finalizing early. If you look at my stats, they make abundantly clear that I'm not a scammer.
I know that you're able to view them without me doing this, but here they are:
Total transactions: 58
Total spent: ฿3107.8
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 1 year
If you don't want to sell to me than cancel my order. I'm not accusing you of anything, but the fact that this item is ridiculously cheap makes your listing seem suspicious.
PS There are over 9 million people in my state and at least 2 million in my 'area code' 1 hour read
delete"
"coachella420(100) Ok. 1 hour read
delete"
"Do not reply Dear [so and so],
We are sorry to inform you that coachella420 has canceled your order of (1) 5x 30mg IR adderalls. Quit slacking! SHIPS TODAY. Your payment has been returned to your account and we hope that you can find a suitable replacement from another seller.
Best regards,
Silk Road staff
NOTE: This is an automated message. Replies will not be answered 1 hour read
delete"
Don't get me wrong, I'm not angry about this at all. I'm just trying to warn others to stay away from him.
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I don't see how he scammed you.
c420 has always seemed to be a stand up dude, and it's not like he marked it in transit and then disappeared or anything.
if you exert that much effort after losing nothing, well, seems shady on your end.
k.
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I don't see how he scammed you.
c420 has always seemed to be a stand up dude,
if you exert that much effort after losing nothing, well, seems shady on your end.
k.
I never said he scammed me. It's clear (or should be to anyone with half a brain) that he was attempting to pull a scam. I took me all of about 2 minutes at most to post that. It wasn't exactly a ton of work.
As I said in my post: "Don't get me wrong, I'm not angry about this at all. I'm just trying to warn others to stay away from him."
I'm sure that he really remembered someone in my "area code" scammed him LOL. Please.
Not to mention they were dirt cheap.
Oh, and there's the fact that an hour after I posted this, this MYSTERIOUSLY appeared on his vendor page:
"Edit:4/26 uh oh! looks like my competition left a few dirty reviews.
This user has no active listings
rating review freshness item
1 of 5 This guy is a FUCKING SCAMMER!!! Do NOT PURCHASE FROM HIM and DO NOT FE! 1 hour item"
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/e590757123
Gee, hard to imagine. It's funny, there were 6-7 Adderall listings that vanished into thin air within an hour of me posting this. And no, that wasn't me; you don't get to leave feedback in my case. Otherwise I would have just left negative feedback and would not have bothered with this.
Anyone who looks at my buying stats and thinks I'm a scammer is an idiot.
And you sir are a fucking moron.
It's funny, for such a "stand-up dude," there's a dearth of reviews for him in the forums.
You don't even say that he IS a "stand-up dude" or even that you've successfully made a purchase from him. You say, "c420 has always seemed to be a stand up dude." LMFAO
Pray tell, how does he "seem" like anything to you?
"and it's not like he marked it in transit and then disappeared or anything."
Right. Because I refused to FE jackass. Otherwise that's exactly how it would have gone down.
"if you exert that much effort after losing nothing, well, seems shady on your end."
This isn't for me. This is for other potential buyers. I appreciate it when others do the same. That's why the forums exist.
You either are cochella420 or you're fucking him. Which is it dickface?
Moron.
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I don't see how he scammed you.
c420 has always seemed to be a stand up dude, and it's not like he marked it in transit and then disappeared or anything.
if you exert that much effort after losing nothing, well, seems shady on your end.
k.
^ this.
Seems it worked out fine, he wanted FE cos issues with your area and you didn't want to, get your BTC back and buy from another seller.
Might be just me but this isn't what I'd call a scamming vendor at all. Just protecting his own interests and figured better for you both not to proceed.
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This all seems perfectly reasonable. The guy was nice, courteous, nonjudgmental. Wish cops were more like that. I doubt you'd even have trouble ordering from him in the future if you decided to change your mind about FE or the situation has been dealt with. Dunno his stats, it's definitely hard to tell these days as the rating system is totally fucked up with several sellers demanding "5/5 no matter what or you'll be blacklisted." But from what he gave you, it seems perfectly normal.
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I don't see how he scammed you.
c420 has always seemed to be a stand up dude, and it's not like he marked it in transit and then disappeared or anything.
if you exert that much effort after losing nothing, well, seems shady on your end.
k.
^ this.
Seems it worked out fine, he wanted FE cos issues with your area and you didn't want to, get your BTC back and buy from another seller.
Might be just me but this isn't what I'd call a scamming vendor at all. Just protecting his own interests and figured better for you both not to proceed.
Look, I don't live in a small, remote area. The majority of his feedback only says FE. On top of that, someone clearly did get scammed and left negative feedback after I had ordered. He is a scammer; he took down 6-7 listings after receiving ONE negative feedback. Come on.
And I don't care at all. You're both right that I lost nothing (although I can't remember if the item was hedged or not - so it is possible that I lost something over the course of half a day that it took for this to transpire).
I'm just here to warn others. That's what this forum is for. Everyone is free to make up their own minds and to buy from whomever they choose. This is just a warning to others. I appreciate it when others do the same. I figured for karma's (as in IRL --- not forum karma) sake, it would be good for me to do this.
For the record, I never called him a scammer in the body of my post once. I referred to this as a "scam report" in the title. Perhaps I should have been more clear and said potential scam report.
I'm not claiming that he actually scammed me, just that he was attempting to and that he wasted my time and caused a delay in me actually receiving the items I want to buy. That's it.
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This all seems perfectly reasonable. The guy was nice, courteous, nonjudgmental. Wish cops were more like that. I doubt you'd even have trouble ordering from him in the future if you decided to change your mind about FE or the situation has been dealt with. Dunno his stats, it's definitely hard to tell these days as the rating system is totally fucked up with several sellers demanding "5/5 no matter what or you'll be blacklisted." But from what he gave you, it seems perfectly normal.
If you read my response to him, I was perfectly polite as well. I simply stated that I was not going to FE, I pointed out my buying stats, and also pointed out that anyone selling 30 mg Adderall for less than $15 a piece was questionable to begin with (to which I added that I wasn't accusing him of anything). I reported him to SR and then came here to warn others. Only once in this thread was I impolite and that was only because I don't appreciate being referred to as shady.
I'm sorry but we're talking about someone who had less than 50 transactions.
And my stats are perfect. That's why it's not "normal" or reasonable. I've never been asked to FE by anyone and I'm not the only resident of my state.
There was no reason to ask me to go out of escrow unless he planned on ripping me off. The shipping was supposed to have a DCN, so he would have had proof of delivery if it had gone into resolution. Since I've never had a refund and have never auto-finalized, he wasn't likely to get ripped off.
I'm not stopping anyone from buying from him (i.e. if he ever has a listing again). LOL
I got lucky by having my order cancelled. I want to make sure no one gets taken by someone so clearly dim-witted.
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"I was looking back, and I noticed a known scammer lives in the same area code as you" --- Cochella420
What was he looking back on? If he's saving addresses, then that's a problem too.
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I ordered from him today and he sent me the same message. I said I wouldn't FE, then he said he'd go ahead and send it anyway. This was after it was already marked in transit. So no cancel possible from me.
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now his vendor page is gone
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now his vendor page is gone
Good job I_h_s. Looks like you've been vindicated!
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now his vendor page is gone
Good job I_h_s. Looks like you've been vindicated!
I honestly just wanted to make sure that no one, especially newbs, gets taken by him in the future. I try to lookout for others. As many pointed out, I got my money back so I can't complain.
That no one else will be taken by him makes he happy.
It's really hard to find good Adderall vendors. They disappear as fast as they appear. There's very little information on them in the forums.
That's why it mattered. But I am glad to hear his page is down.
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That really sucks man :(
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honestly you should fe for anyone unless you feel comfortable
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I ordered from him today and he sent me the same message. I said I wouldn't FE, then he said he'd go ahead and send it anyway. This was after it was already marked in transit. So no cancel possible from me.
now his vendor page is gone
I'm curious now if you'll actually get anything in the mail. I hope you do. That's be awesome :)
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I ordered from him today and he sent me the same message. I said I wouldn't FE, then he said he'd go ahead and send it anyway. This was after it was already marked in transit. So no cancel possible from me.
now his vendor page is gone
I'm curious now if you'll actually get anything in the mail. I hope you do. That's be awesome :)
man I hope I do. I'll let you know. It would be sometime next week.
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Coachella420 is BAD BUSINESS
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=45270.msg1048990#msg1048990
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=9715.msg1059640#msg1059640
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=145764.msg1024418#msg1024418
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Yup
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I'm sorry for your financial losses. If you do receive anything from coachella420, then I strongly recommend you verify your substance before consumption.
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Good luck! :)
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Coachella420 is BAD BUSINESS
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=45270.msg1048990#msg1048990
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=9715.msg1059640#msg1059640
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=145764.msg1024418#msg1024418
LOL Where were you and these threads when I was looking the other day? There's just so much information on here, it's hard to find a lot of it.
Thanks for adding it to this thread though! I appreciate it :)
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I was told to never FE, ever. That is a sure fire way to get ripped off, in my opinion the rip off is that most sellers only sell to FE.
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Guys, I learned a *lot* from this thread.
Am wondering if anyone could take a look at a post of mine, about how to gain trust from buyers, as a brand-new vendor. I'm worried no one will trust me, since they'll see, initially, zero sales! But I'm going to offer a wonderful product and great service, and I'm honest. Can anyone weigh in on my post?
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=151646.0
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Apparently C420 has had his own problems being scammed/banned by SR in a thread in Silk Road discussion, don't know if you have seen that.
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i learned a lot from this thread too-- thanks guys. i hope everyone who is new reads this thread, i will NEVER FE for anyone now (not that i have anyway, but i have *offered* to for one person as i read in the forums about their partner being arrested and i knew that they needed $$ ASAP. in any case they declined, which just shows that they were honest to begin with), no matter how trustworthy they are or how many good reviews they have. escrow is the only thing buyers have to protect themselves from scams-- forgoing that is just stupid.
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Apparently C420 has had his own problems being scammed/banned by SR in a thread in Silk Road discussion, don't know if you have seen that.
Um, no, coachella420 was NOT "scammed by SR" - his vendor account was banned and locked due to his scamming people. See: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=153033
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honestly you should fe for anyone unless you feel comfortable
I meant to write shouldn't
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Apparently C420 has had his own problems being scammed/banned by SR in a thread in Silk Road discussion, don't know if you have seen that.
Um, no, coachella420 was NOT "scammed by SR" - his vendor account was banned and locked due to his scamming people. See: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=153033
so, i still have an order in escrow with him. will i get refunded?
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honestly you should fe for anyone unless you feel comfortable
I meant to write shouldn't
You can edit/modify your posts.
Coachella420 is BAD BUSINESS
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=45270.msg1048990#msg1048990
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=9715.msg1059640#msg1059640
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=145764.msg1024418#msg1024418
LOL Where were you and these threads when I was looking the other day? There's just so much information on here, it's hard to find a lot of it.
Thanks for adding it to this thread though! I appreciate it :)
My apologies, mate. I'm an avid read of the forums, but my timing is always sporadic.
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Well guys, I just got his shipment in the mail. The packaging was amazing, some of the best I've seen, and the product looks the same as any adderall I've seen before. So I'm pretty damn sure it's legit. Thanks coachella420. Can't finalize right now cause the site is down, but I will once it's back up.
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Tried out the adderall and it was perfect. Guess I got lucky to be one of the ones that didn't get screwed. Glad I didn't FE. Thanks again coachella420.
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Winslows... with all the clearly real reports of coachella scamming users on SR and completely fucking over our members, why not just say "Nah, fuck him... I didn't get anything, may I have my money back?"
You could have your money back, but instead you are going to fund a SR terrorist?
It's not like there was an army of us predicting this would happen months ago, and reporting him to SR Support for other rule violations, trying our best to prevent this from happening... wait, no, that did happen. SMH!
Delete your comments and keep your money, think of it as you are doing us all a favor! Making the Road a better place!
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Apparently C420 has had his own problems being scammed/banned by SR in a thread in Silk Road discussion, don't know if you have seen that.
Um, no, coachella420 was NOT "scammed by SR" - his vendor account was banned and locked due to his scamming people. See: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=153033
Thanks for clarifying that and adding the link Scout.
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Winslows... with all the clearly real reports of coachella scamming users on SR and completely fucking over our members, why not just say "Nah, fuck him... I didn't get anything, may I have my money back?"
You could have your money back, but instead you are going to fund a SR terrorist?
It's not like there was an army of us predicting this would happen months ago, and reporting him to SR Support for other rule violations, trying our best to prevent this from happening... wait, no, that did happen. SMH!
Delete your comments and keep your money, think of it as you are doing us all a favor! Making the Road a better place!
just being honest. I would be stooping to his level if I lied and said I didn't get anything and want my money back.
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Winslows... with all the clearly real reports of coachella scamming users on SR and completely fucking over our members, why not just say "Nah, fuck him... I didn't get anything, may I have my money back?"
You could have your money back, but instead you are going to fund a SR terrorist?
It's not like there was an army of us predicting this would happen months ago, and reporting him to SR Support for other rule violations, trying our best to prevent this from happening... wait, no, that did happen. SMH!
Delete your comments and keep your money, think of it as you are doing us all a favor! Making the Road a better place!
just being honest. I would be stooping to his level if I lied and said I didn't get anything and want my money back.
+1 for honesty :)
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Winslows... with all the clearly real reports of coachella scamming users on SR and completely fucking over our members, why not just say "Nah, fuck him... I didn't get anything, may I have my money back?"
I can't believe you even suggested that! We all have a reasonable inkling of who the scammer is, no need to abolish honesty here.
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just being honest. I would be stooping to his level if I lied and said I didn't get anything and want my money back.
Always best to be honest. +1
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Winslows... with all the clearly real reports of coachella scamming users on SR and completely fucking over our members, why not just say "Nah, fuck him... I didn't get anything, may I have my money back?"
You could have your money back, but instead you are going to fund a SR terrorist?
It's not like there was an army of us predicting this would happen months ago, and reporting him to SR Support for other rule violations, trying our best to prevent this from happening... wait, no, that did happen. SMH!
Delete your comments and keep your money, think of it as you are doing us all a favor! Making the Road a better place!
I'm the OP on this thread. To be fair, this person ordered before he posted to this thread, so he didn't necessarily know that c420 was a selective scammer.
And I don't advocate for anyone to be dishonest. If he received product and it was genuine, he should report it. Everyone else can judge for themselves based on what they find in the forums.
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Here is some honesty for you people... we are all a bunch of liars and criminals, I'm just the only man admitting it. If you were trying to stand on principle and do something for the greater good, then why not just take that money and find one of these people who got ripped off and then give it to them? Giving money to coachella420 so he can use it to buy a new vendor account to scam more people could not possibly be the right thing to do. If you are going to lie and commit crimes, then why not do it for the right reasons? Why not do whatever you can to make SilkRoad a better place?
Instead, you want to point at me like I'm the bad guy. Everyone here is guilty, I'm just the only one admitting it and trying to do the right thing behind it on this thread. I'm about as honest in my actions as I need to be in order to do the next right thing and try to make things around me better everyday that I live. I'm not perfect, any more than any one of you is, but I sure as hell try. I'm confused how people can try to pretend to be standing up for what is right, when what they are standing for ain't shit. Go ahead and pretend to be noble and the whole time your actions aren't producing anything that represents good around here. Give the man his money, I still bet you don't do a damn thing to make anything right. I'm betting you don't go donate any of your own money to the victims in this case. I'm willing to bet you just find comfort in the fact that hey! You were just being honest. Your honesty comes with a price, and its everyone Else's to pay around here.
+1 for those of you who do what is right, no matter what. I'm not sure how we are ever going to defeat evil scum around here, if we aren't willing to take a stand and fight back.
PurpleLotus
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Here is some honesty for you people... we are all a bunch of liars and criminals, I'm just the only man admitting it. If you were trying to stand on principle and do something for the greater good, then why not just take that money and find one of these people who got ripped off and then give it to them? Giving money to coachella420 so he can use it to buy a new vendor account to scam more people could not possibly be the right thing to do. If you are going to lie and commit crimes, then why not do it for the right reasons? Why not do whatever you can to make SilkRoad a better place?
Instead, you want to point at me like I'm the bad guy. Everyone here is guilty, I'm just the only one admitting it and trying to do the right thing behind it on this thread. I'm about as honest in my actions as I need to be in order to do the next right thing and try to make things around me better everyday that I live. I'm not perfect, any more than any one of you is, but I sure as hell try. I'm confused how people can try to pretend to be standing up for what is right, when what they are standing for ain't shit. Go ahead and pretend to be noble and the whole time your actions aren't producing anything that represents good around here. Give the man his money, I still bet you don't do a damn thing to make anything right. I'm betting you don't go donate any of your own money to the victims in this case. I'm willing to bet you just find comfort in the fact that hey! You were just being honest. Your honesty comes with a price, and its everyone Else's to pay around here.
+1 for those of you who do what is right, no matter what. I'm not sure how we are ever going to defeat evil scum around here, if we aren't willing to take a stand and fight back.
PurpleLotus
I'm not calling you out. If you think that's the case, then I'm sorry. Yes of course I lie my ass off on daily. I have to do that here sometimes with personal info to protect my anonymity. And this is obviously not my SR market user name.
I'll give purposely misleading information about myself to prevent me from unmasking myself. But I don't lie about my dealings with vendors.
And I don't think that this part of your comment was directed at me, but I was trying to do the right thing by starting this thread. I'll admit that I should have started posting to the forums long before I did, but I've always been wary of the forums because they are indexed by search engines. And this was the first time that a vendor ever attempted to scam me, I'm usually pretty cautious.
I searched the entire forum before I placed my order, but I did not see anything about him scamming anyone. There was something calling him an idiot, but it wasn't a thread about his products. With things like Adderall, it's nearly impossible to tell if someone's a scammer. They don't have nearly as many customers as, say, a weed vendor would, and pill vendors crop up and disappear fast for reasons that heave nothing to do with scamming.
I had a feeling that he might have been a scammer when I ordered, but there weren't a lot of other options to choose from that day and I went with him only because he had the most transactions of the vendors I had to select from and had a 100 rating (yeah I know that doesn't mean shit). I also knew that I had more successful transactions than him and a better reputation than him, so I figured if it didn't work out, I'd at least get a partial refund in resolution. But when he asked me to FE, I knew it was bullshit.
The only reason I came to Winslow's defense is because he stated in his initial post that he placed the order before reading my thread, so he had the same information to go on as I did. I doubt if he intentionally picked a scammer to buy from and I don't know that c420 got paid at all (actually I know for a fact he hasn't because the site has been down since he received the order and he said he refused to FE -- and I know becuase I'm actually upset myself because there's a good vendor who I really would like to pay, but can't as of right now).
And when I said honesty was important, I was referring to the forum ONLY. If you mean to say that this person should go into resolution instead of finalizing, then I completely agree with you. I think SR should get their cut of the sale, but the buyer should go into resolution if there's any chance c420 could actually get paid for the transaction.
But with that said, I've always assumed that if a vendor with pending sales gets his account banned, he would be unable to get paid for any pending transactions. That's what should happen. SR should lock their accounts and confiscate the funds IMHO.
I agree 100% that no one should be handing over money to c420 that he can use to open another vendor account.
I also don't think anyone is obligated to donate funds to scam victims. Number one, it's impossible to verify that they are actually victims. And two, if ever there were a place where the expression buyer beware applied, it's definitely SR. Everyone knows the risk up front and everyone is responsible for doing their own homework.
"I'm not sure how we are ever going to defeat evil scum around here, if we aren't willing to take a stand and fight back."
-----That quote is more than anything what prompted me to reply to your post. The only way we can do that is to encourage honesty in the forums, to report honestly on all of our dealings with vendors (good and bad - which I will be doing from now on now that I've finally reached 50 posts), and reporting every shady dealing to SR staff. Coachella was the first vendor who I ever had to report. I've been very fortunate in my dealings here, but I'm also super cautious and take very few risks.
That's why I said honesty is important. I meant here and only here. And no, C420 should in no way get paid for Winslow's (or any other transactions after his account was banned). In that case, it would be OK to lie I guess, but I'd like to know what actually happens with open orders when a vendor is banned. It might not be necessary to lie.
None of us have any way of knowing whether Winslow's transaction really took place. He could be c420 himself for all we know. I doubt it since it doesn't matter now, but anything that anyone chooses to believe on these forums is accepted on faith. There are no facts here. And Winslow, if you're reading this, I'm not accusing you of anything and I'm not trying to imply anything. This could apply to anyone on this thread including myself.
So yeah, I lie my fucking ass off just about every day of my life and I have no problem admitting that. I try to keep my reports of my dealings with SR vendors 100% honest in the forum though, since this is basically a web of trust. I'm every bit as interested in getting rid of all the scumbag vendors on the road as anyone else is.
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yaya 7!!!!
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I_hate_scammers: Fucking right man! I can say from experience he does in fact get the rest of his money if people finalize on it. I never scammed anyone in my life, but shit happens. It doesn't always happen to the right people at the right time, but it happens.
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purplelotus - That's bullshit. They should freeze the funds.
Now I get what you were saying. After I started this thread, he'd got a feedback of 1 of 5 and it basically said they'd got beat.
Why the fuck would you finalize? It's fucking nuts. But the pill scammers will always be here.
They've done a much better job of weeding out the rats in the cannabis section, but with items with fewer buyers it's hard to police.
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purplelotus - That's bullshit. They should freeze the funds.
Now I get what you were saying. After I started this thread, he'd got a feedback of 1 of 5 and it basically said they'd got beat.
Why the fuck would you finalize? It's fucking nuts. But the pill scammers will always be here.
They've done a much better job of weeding out the rats in the cannabis section, but with items with fewer buyers it's hard to police.
It depends on the vendor and the reason for their banning. In most cases, the funds are ABSOLUTELY frozen and then refunds are given, or whatever else. If a vendor is banned for scamming people out of their money, they get kicked out of their account, which means no access to their scam funds.
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purplelotus - That's bullshit. They should freeze the funds.
Now I get what you were saying. After I started this thread, he'd got a feedback of 1 of 5 and it basically said they'd got beat.
Why the fuck would you finalize? It's fucking nuts. But the pill scammers will always be here.
They've done a much better job of weeding out the rats in the cannabis section, but with items with fewer buyers it's hard to police.
I'm glad to see we were actually on the same page on how someone should handle scum like coachella420, maybe people took me a little too literal when I said to boldly lie about it. Not that I see anything wrong with that, but yeah, definitely don't finalize and go to resolution if you could, but apparently I was in correct and they did in fact freeze those funds.
All I know was I was banned and was still allowed my funds, but then again I was not scamming people and deserved every cent back.
PL
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All I know was I was banned and was still allowed my funds, but then again I was not scamming people and deserved every cent back.
PL
Yeah, I think this was the difference. You weren't scamming people or stealing anyone's money, so your funds weren't frozen (thankfully!). coachella420, on the other hand, deserved having the funds frozen .
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Yeah, that's one of the differences. We could also mention how I took a stand against scammers long before SR Support did... that certainly makes me different too. Actually, it makes me very similar to a lot of people here on SR, especially how the majority of those who witnessed coachella's behavior long before this happened supported my concerns. I would say as a whole this is a great community and I'm proud to be a part of it. The scammers are out numbered, that's a fact.
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I have an order with Coachella420 that is still in escrow, 11 days to "Auto Finalize" actually. I'm assuming I will get a refund, hoping that is.
Went 8 months and 65 orders on SR with a perfect history, and all of the sudden I get scammed back to back on two different orders, out 500 bones as of now.
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I have an order with Coachella420 that is still in escrow, 11 days to "Auto Finalize" actually. I'm assuming I will get a refund, hoping that is.
Went 8 months and 65 orders on SR with a perfect history, and all of the sudden I get scammed back to back on two different orders, out 500 bones as of now.
If you're still in escrow, you should be able to take it to resolution to get your refund.