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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: SamGiancana on March 27, 2013, 03:22 pm

Title: Opinions please - is this a controlled delivery? Thanks.
Post by: SamGiancana on March 27, 2013, 03:22 pm
I have ordered a kilo from somebody of a certain illegal substance.
Now, the postal service they are using is one I have never used before.
This is the latest information on the package:

"Awaiting customs clearance. Our delivery agent will contact you shortly."

Why would a delivery agent ever contact me? If this is in fact a controlled delivery, and they call me, what should I say about the package to deny it?
Thanks.
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Post by: curiositymatrix on March 27, 2013, 03:51 pm
Yes, its safe to assume so at this point. Don't claim it, don't even acknowledge it.
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Post by: davidthegnome on March 27, 2013, 03:56 pm
Yea, I can see why some red flags would be coming up on your end.

I'll give you my take on the situation.

I guess it depends on the method and reason of the "delivery agent" contacting you.
Since as you said its not a normal route of delivery it may have to switch "Delivery agents" once it hits your border. e.g. a different carrier which in turn will need a different tracking no.

So all the update may be is letting you know that they will update you about the change in carrier and will update with new tracking info once it clears customs.

So if they contact/update you with new tracking info it would probably be less of a red flag.
But if they contact you any other way trying to extract information from you, then its really suspect.

So sit it out and see what comes next.
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Post by: davidthegnome on March 27, 2013, 04:05 pm
Just did a search engine search on "awaiting customs clearance."
Not looking good.
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Post by: CrazyBart on March 27, 2013, 04:15 pm

Why would a delivery agent ever contact me? If this is in fact a controlled delivery, and they call me, what should I say about the package to deny it?
Thanks.

"What package, I'm not expecting anything"
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Post by: MDUK on March 27, 2013, 04:29 pm
Is it just me or do you get in trouble more than anyone else on SR?  :P
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Post by: ChemCat on March 27, 2013, 04:31 pm
Is it just me or do you get in trouble more than anyone else on SR?  :P


LOL


:)
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Post by: nanpa2001 on March 27, 2013, 05:25 pm
Is it just me or do you get in trouble more than anyone else on SR?  :P

Depends on whether you consider a home invasion, followed by being mugged by TheTeflonDon trouble.
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Post by: ChemCat on March 27, 2013, 05:40 pm
### Once Again!!**Slaps Forehead ###
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Post by: kpnitreal1 on March 27, 2013, 07:05 pm
Why on earth would you have a kilo of some shit shipped to ya?

It would be much smarter to purchase it in smaller amounts.  Sure you dont get the bulk pricing, but its the safer route!
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Post by: biglubes on March 27, 2013, 07:16 pm
There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.  - George W Bush
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Post by: discgolfking on March 27, 2013, 10:40 pm
ok double slaps forehead
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Post by: HitTheRoad on March 27, 2013, 11:30 pm
There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.  - George W Bush

That still makes me laugh watching it on youtube!  ;D
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Post by: scout on March 28, 2013, 03:22 am
good lord.
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Post by: White 0ut on March 28, 2013, 03:27 am
*Burns Evidence

*Buys out of lease/Sells house

*Changes Names

*Changes Countries

*Continues SR'ing

*Still Fucks Up

*Repeats
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Post by: zerik on March 28, 2013, 06:42 am
*Burns Evidence

*Buys out of lease/Sells house

*Changes Names

*Changes Countries

*Continues SR'ing

*Still Fucks Up

*Repeats

Screw that burns house down.

Buys a piece of land and builds an under ground bunker. Never comes out again.

Geez man. If it weren't for bad luck you would have no luck. I have no idea on this one. I mean you probably hit every red flag they have. I hope all works out for you. I suppose it could be just something like a change of carriers but don't know. I know it is a lot of $ to walk away from but better to be safe. 
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Post by: DanDanTheIceCreamMan on March 29, 2013, 01:52 am
I'm just interested to see how this all plays out. Subbed. Best of luck Sam!
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Post by: DrugDealer on March 29, 2013, 02:03 am
A  man can I fuck your mom
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Post by: DrugDealer on March 29, 2013, 02:04 am
Can i fuck your sister
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Post by: DrugDealer on March 29, 2013, 02:05 am
Better yet I bet your fuckin ugly if our you I would commit succide.
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Post by: DrugDealer on March 29, 2013, 02:06 am
I bet your whole family is a bunch of gay people taht fuck each other.. Dude seriusly get the fuck at here you fuckin dumb motherfucker
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Post by: Aurelius Venport on March 29, 2013, 02:11 am
lol wut
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Post by: TheSauceIsHot on March 29, 2013, 10:57 am
I believe that it kind of translates out to saying they'll notify you when they receive the package from customs.  I don't think customs would update the postal so they could update you via internet about an interception.  International packages get stuck in customs without anyway of really tracking it.  They're saying they'll let you know when it's able to be tracked again.  Or you could just play it safe and burn everything.
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Post by: MrAnonymous on March 30, 2013, 10:41 am
Do you actually think the postal service are going to let you know there is going to be a problem with your package at customs which will lead to a controlled delivery?

Seriously?

They are going to basically let you know they are coming, giving you time to get rid of all evidence and get a good back story and shit?

I can't actually believe that you'd think that. The chances are they've caught it and it will be confiscated and the LE will come knocking for some questions. At this point, where they probably know you know the package is under investigation they aren't going to bother with a controlled delivery.


If they plan on a controlled delivery (well.. If the LE decide thats what they'll do when they've been notified.. ) They are not going to be like:

'Hello sir, how are you? Just letting you know we've handed your package over to the LE and they plan on knocking your door down in a controlled delivery in about 3 days. Probably about 9am as well.

Enjoy your free time MR soon to be a convict!'


If this isn't just BS, then can I add that if you have been checking the tracking with a normal browser, that's already a bit of proof that you were expecting a package (your IP will be logged). So, if they are smart enough to look at that, then you need another excuse other than 'what package do you mean sir??  ::) '.

Again, like always: Keep your mouth shut, get rid of anything incriminating and say nothing other than your name without consulting an attorney.

Just remember you've got to be extra careful now, if they get the slightest bit of evidence you could be going away for a long time. A kilo would be considerable jail time depending on what drug it was.

Good luck!

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Post by: smokecrack on April 05, 2013, 10:54 pm
update on the one kilogram controlled delivery??
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Post by: Purple_Hue000 on April 07, 2013, 08:12 pm
Damn son you ordered a Kilo? be careful! Don't give them a reason to fuck with you.
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Post by: weed4me6969 on April 07, 2013, 10:16 pm
I get nervous doing these small orders, i cant imagine a freakin kilo!
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Post by: Green Haze on April 07, 2013, 10:30 pm
Well, no offense to OP, but it takes just a LITTLE bit of common sense in order to handle an order of that amount. Problem being Greed,Demand>safety.
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Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 15, 2013, 12:53 am
So what happened??
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Post by: TheSauceIsHot on April 15, 2013, 04:14 am
So what happened??

I heard he got busted jack n hoff.
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Post by: scout on April 15, 2013, 04:19 am
So what happened??

I heard he got busted jack n hoff.

bahahahaha ... at first i was like, "what?!  where did he hear / see this?" and then i re-read the sentence and understood the joke.  :D
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Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 15, 2013, 04:31 am
So what happened??

I heard he got busted jack n hoff.
by his mom
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Post by: scout on April 15, 2013, 04:38 am
So what happened??

I heard he got busted jack n hoff.
by his mom

ew, gross.  you mean he was, like, jack n hoff in close proximity to his mother?
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Post by: LesbianRobot on April 15, 2013, 05:36 am
The dude is probably sitting in jail right now lol
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Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 15, 2013, 05:50 am
The dude is probably sitting in jail right now lol
He still posts on the forum and supposedly shipped out 30 packages in one day during the crash.  He just ignores this thread for some reason.
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Post by: BloodThinner on April 15, 2013, 05:52 am
Dudes just fuckin lyin
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Post by: grdr on April 15, 2013, 05:52 am
hate these types who start these types and do these types      2C-B
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Post by: LesbianRobot on April 15, 2013, 06:11 am
The dude is probably sitting in jail right now lol
He still posts on the forum and supposedly shipped out 30 packages in one day during the crash.  He just ignores this thread for some reason.

I was talking about the dude who ordered the Ki
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Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 15, 2013, 06:32 am
The dude is probably sitting in jail right now lol
He still posts on the forum and supposedly shipped out 30 packages in one day during the crash.  He just ignores this thread for some reason.

I was talking about the dude who ordered the Ki
So am I lol. 
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=53018
SamGiancana is the one who ordered the kilo.  He also had a weird shipping problem recently http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=143847.msg984490#msg984490
and he's a vendor http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=146375.msg1004306#msg1004306
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Post by: LesbianRobot on April 15, 2013, 07:15 am
Oh...he is a vendor...I guess that is why I was confused. Gotcha. What a dumb fuck.
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Post by: jagfug on April 15, 2013, 11:00 am
How would they contact him? Do they have his number?  Right there it sounds unlikely. Sounds like an attention complex. I've had a package seized by customs, and they just sent me a letter inside the envelope my stuff was supposed to come in, which read something like "Someone mailed you something that is on our banned list of items and we've confiscated it, if you'd like to appeal this, contact this office withing 14 days, otherwise it will be destroyed.
Then went on to list the law "Section this, and paragraph that, states that yaddda yadda yadda controlled substances, etc.

- Agent Just Doinmahjob
US Dept of Homeland Security
Borders Enforcement

Never heard from them again.
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Post by: scout on April 15, 2013, 07:18 pm
Wait, I thought we were joking about the username Jack n Hoff ...
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Post by: Veetano on April 15, 2013, 07:36 pm
There's probably nothing to worry about.

The US Postal service fucks up a lot. Especially with international exchanges. I can assure you they would never let you know they are coming to bust you in advanced.

Worst Case, Stash your shit somewhere, wait a few days, don't sign for the package. Shouldn't be ordering a kilo that requires signature anyways.

Even so, I once had a large international shipment that the postal guys confused and they left a pink slip for me in my mailbox saying I had to come pick it up at the post office. Super Paranoid, I had a backstory and everything ready. I went, and got it, no problems at all, the USPS is just fucking retarded. As long as your vendor knows what he is doing, you should be fine.

Rest Assured, the USPS may be stupid but they're not stupid enough to let you know you're about to be busted.

LE will either:
Try to get you to sign for the package, likely at which point your house will be surrounded, and multiple LE will be in the postal truck, you can usually see if there's more than 2 post guys.
Or:
They will bust down your door without warning, which is unlikely unless somebody locally tipped you off as ordering. I do not think it's likely theyll bust down your door just because an illegal package has your name on it. Anybody can send a package to anybody, and it simply would not hold up in court.
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Post by: DrGonzo on April 26, 2013, 10:22 pm
100 bux say this is another way for this piece of shit vendor to have an excuse for not shipping his customers orders. Sam gianaca I dont like you and I dont support you as a vendor.
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Post by: nanpa2001 on April 28, 2013, 11:28 am
totally agree, his marketing tactics are unethical and I find it really strange that he keeps getting involved in all these strange conspiracies that no one else is talking about.

He did get mugged by TheTeflonDon in person. You have to admit, that is something lol.
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Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 28, 2013, 12:24 pm
totally agree, his marketing tactics are unethical and I find it really strange that he keeps getting involved in all these strange conspiracies that no one else is talking about.

He did get mugged by TheTeflonDon in person. You have to admit, that is something lol.
You believed that?  They both ship from the same area and have the same products.  I think they are the same person.  The whole story was stupid.  He met up with teflon's friend and fronted him a ton of shit and gave him tons of bitcoins?  Nah, I think they are the same person.
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Post by: nanpa2001 on April 28, 2013, 12:47 pm
TheTelfonDon is CanadianLTD, and countless other scammers, but isn't this guy.

TheTelflonDon = scammer genius. Sam, if he is a scammer, doesn't even come close and doesn't have the same MO as TheTeflonDon.
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Post by: flwrchlds9 on April 28, 2013, 08:43 pm
Ordering KGs international? Ok. You have good grasp of international mail and customs clearance correct?

When tracking updates there are pre-made track update reason, when package arrive into customs they scan and update with preset reason, "package in destination customs awaiting clearance" is normal update. sound like person delivering used freight forward company of customs broker, they have custom track update message and add "delivery agent will call you if needed". "agent" does not mean POLICE. LOL

like customer service AGENT. it mean your package got to destination customs arrival and is waiting to be inspected or passed on like every other package that come in and if need more tax paid or have delivery problem the forwarder contact you confirm address or get tax paid. Or your container of cargo need schedule truck pickup from forwarding facility then agent call to schedule.

LOL.  :o
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Post by: LesbianRobot on April 28, 2013, 09:07 pm
Yeah, trying to get a KG through customs would be shitty enough. 25 packages? No way
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Post by: slirp on April 28, 2013, 09:30 pm
If buying bulk or shipping through express carriers (DHL, FEDEX, UPS, etc) you only use drops that are in no way connected to you.  You should also expect some of the packages to get caught.  It is a numbers game.
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Post by: Andrewbud420 on April 29, 2013, 12:55 am
When going through a courier such as UPS OR DHL coming in to canada it'll usually go through a clearing house of sorts.


This is where they figure out how much their going to charge you on duties and taxes.


This is normal an agent might contact you because a lot of duties or taxes are to be paid on the package. Or they want your asss.

Got my tracking number yet?
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Post by: wallacekim on April 29, 2013, 07:20 am
I don't know why I always take what everyone posts to heart (when it's a scare story). Guess I'm just naive when it comes to horror stories.
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Post by: personaluse on April 29, 2013, 08:32 am
I vote yes - stay far far away. Good luck! And sorry to hear of your loss :(