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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: edar on March 15, 2013, 06:40 pm
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Can someone please explain to my why superthips charabros & eddy420 are still vendors on Sr even tho they have been reported mutliple times to Sr Support but are still doing it :o
then I,ll tell you why I want to know ;)
please sr members enlighten me
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Did you know Sr can freeze scam sellers money ... eddy420 charabros superthrips weirdscience phd and all the other scammers
yeh ha refunds for all & no more ripp offs nice one sr I didnt know that , what do you do with the money and how do I claim it back ?
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As I've mentioned in other threads, if you were scammed by a scammer and remained in escrow, then yes, you would be receiving a refund.
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As I've mentioned in other threads, if you were scammed by a scammer and remained in escrow, then yes, you would be receiving a refund.
but if you can freeze accounts whats the problem ??? he forced you to F.e which was reported so surely the folk who Fe,d for him get a refund
what did you do with weird science and phds money (who forced F.e ) which I reported ?
did Sr keep it ?
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As I've mentioned in other threads, if you were scammed by a scammer and remained in escrow, then yes, you would be receiving a refund.
but if you can freeze accounts whats the problem ??? he forced you to F.e which was reported so surely the folk who Fe,d for him get a refund
what did you do with weird science and phds money (who forced F.e ) which I reported ?
did Sr keep it ?
I don't know what happened to those vendors or their money. However, I do know that if you choose to finalize early, you are no longer protected by SR or its escrow system. So in those cases of FE'ing, no, you would not be receiving any kind of refund. There is no way to "force" someone to FE -- so those who DO FE are doing so through their own volition. They would not get a refund because they should be well-aware of the rule against FE'ing which is an out-of-escrow transaction that cannot be reversed by SR.
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what about all the 50% refunds folk accepted / got for non arrival fake tracking etc do they get a refund
why go resolution and accept a 50% refund when sr can give you 100% refund from a proven scammer ...yet feedback from any account is an issue and asking F.E aint
AND why dont you ban them for breaking Sr rules (asking F.e ) If they broke a rule by asking for F.e which is supposed to be there to protect the buyers :o surley they should be banned ? or is it just certain rules ?
I need clarity on this before I invest if I do , but if I do can I ask for F.E ? Just need you to Explain this disparity mate $500 for a new account is expensive unless your one of these scammers who go thru them like salt & havent had there account money frozen
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No one can stop them from requesting that buyers FE ... however, asking buyers to FE is not the same thing as "forcing" them to FE. Buyers are ALWAYS advised to STAY IN ESCROW. And if a particular vendor asks you to FE, then you find a different vendor who allows you to remain in escrow.
Also, the $500 for an account is refunded after a certain amount of time/number of transactions.
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No one can stop them from requesting that buyers FE ... however, asking buyers to FE is not the same thing as "forcing" them to FE. Buyers are ALWAYS advised to STAY IN ESCROW. And if a particular vendor asks you to FE, then you find a different vendor who allows you to remain in escrow.
Also, the $500 for an account is refunded after a certain amount of time/number of transactions.
You loose a certain amount to sr in fee,s if you cancel & he says he sent it & waits till it either auto finalizes fking your stats or offering a 50% refund Im suprised I need to say this its a well known tactic , so lets be clear here asking F.E isnt againt the rules then ?
and can you tell me how many transaction or what amount of time you get before your refunded the bond 3 months 100 transaction , just want to be clear here so I know what you can do as a vendor so Its ok to ask F.E its not against sr rules (which is funny as its supposed to protect the buyer) just want to be crystal clear my friend
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Lets get this crystal clear
F.E which is supposed to be there to protect the buyer isnt compulsory or implemented as a rule on silkroad ?
but fake feedback is ?
Is that some kind of joke ? why would F.E be allowed if its supposed to protect the buyer ??? and why doesnt Sr implement it & make it compulsory ??? give it some teeth as its just a word or a con sale if it aint backed up by sr
why bother mentioning it ? to give us the inpression its a rule ? ... im confused
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I just went to report EDDYS420 after reading something edar wrote as I clean forgot about that button I should of done it ages ago, but as I clicked on his vendor page there is nothing, looks like he has had his account closed, so this will mean 100% refunds all round I hope?
Still gutted though as its going to fuck my stats up and now I have to go else where and wait another fuck knows how long, mehh.
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Yep, if his vendor account was closed and you remained in escrow, you should be receiving a refund.
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If youve froze the funds why should it matter because they made the mistake of F.E ing which you allow on Sr ???,
what you gona do with the money these people have fe,d with keep it ? coz they made a mistake and fe,d ?
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Yeah I stayed in escrow, never FE.
Will it be 100% refunds?
I cant see there being any reason not to.
Lesson learned here.
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There's no such thing as "accidentally" finalizing early - you make a conscious decision to FE or to remain in escrow. If you remain in escrow, then you get a refund. The rules are the rules - you don't get to decide to FE knowing the risks and then demand a refund when it turns out that indeed those risks are real! You knew the risks and you finalized early anyway. You knew that by FE'ing, you would be going out of escrow and would no longer be protected by SR or its escrow system. You can't make that kind of decision and then scream about how unfair it is that you can't then get your money back! You knew the risks! They are the reason we always say "NEVER FE!"
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Yeah I stayed in escrow, never FE.
Will it be 100% refunds?
I cant see there being any reason not to.
Lesson learned here.
Yep, if you stayed in escrow, you will be refunded.
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Yeah I stayed in escrow, never FE.
Will it be 100% refunds?
I cant see there being any reason not to.
Lesson learned here.
Yep, if you stayed in escrow, you will be refunded.
Is there any way to still get a 100% refund but it not mess with my stats, say if sr just send me btc and cancel the transaction or similar, its a clear case of scam, I dont see why I should be punished by my stats taking a hit!
Cheers.
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Is there any way to still get a 100% refund but it not mess with my stats, say if sr just send me btc and cancel the transaction or similar, its a clear case of scam, I dont see why I should be punished by my stats taking a hit!
Cheers.
If your stats take a hit when you receive the refund due to a scam, most vendors would understand this. You can even point them to forum threads to support what you are saying. Just get in touch with them ahead of placing an order and let them know your concern, and why your refund rate is high. I would think most vendors would be understanding about it in cases like these.
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If a scammer vendor has excess funds in their account from buyers finalizing early - it shouldn't just go to the fucking house account. That is bullshit. If it's clear a buyer has been scammed (newbie or not), and there is ample funds in the account, why shouldn't those funds go to the buyer?
I can understand if there isn't enough money in the account, but if 10 people finalized early and the first 5 of them can be refunded by the excess funds in the account, then they should get their bitcoin back period! I"m all for SR/DPR getting money, but not by essentially stealing.
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If a scammer vendor has excess funds in their account from buyers finalizing early - it shouldn't just go to the fucking house account. That is bullshit. If it's clear a buyer has been scammed (newbie or not), and there is ample funds in the account, why shouldn't those funds go to the buyer?
And how exactly would someone go about determining which buyers who FE'ed should receive the left over bitcoins? Can't be done because it's highly unlikely that a vendor hasn't moved or spent a single bitcoin that they earned on sales.
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I'm not exactly sure how things work on the other end, but I'd say first come first served.
Listen, I FE for no one. Period! But if some new buyer comes here and does so, and excess funds are left in the account, SR should make every attempt possible to keep people whole. That's all.
I'm not trying to argue with you scout - I really appreciate what you do here. I just don't think it's fair for SR to profit from a scam - do you?
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I honestly don't know what SR does with confiscated funds. I do know that they strive to repair as much of the damage that has been done as they can with it. They don't just take it and keep it for themselves - they freeze it and decide how best to appropriate it.
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Beautiful - that's all I wanted to hear.
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I think you'll find that most scamming vendors have auto withdraw enabled, so there won't be anything much in their accounts to freeze.
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I think you'll find that most scamming vendors have auto withdraw enabled, so there won't be anything much in their accounts to freeze.
That's a pretty safe assumption to make.
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How can I get my refund in the fastest way possible, my order with that prick EDDYS420 is in its 2nd day of resolution and I have requested 100% refund, do I wait it out or can I PM admin and ask for it quicker? I dont really want to by more btc.
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@ ^ any updates mate ??? I got a 100% refund ;D
oh and gtfo ok ......... yourself ;)