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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: obiwanjabroni on March 07, 2013, 03:57 pm
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Hi Forum This is a description of my dealings with SamGiancana, 11days ago Sun Feb 24th I asked SamGiancana for a small sample of his coke when I saw he was a new vendor. He replied saying he could give me 1&1/2gram of his high heat Coke for the price of a gram. I said cool I sent him half the price directly to him (stupid me) and 1/2 in escrow. His communication was so great and fast that I figured he would be a good vendor with a quality product. He shipped out the coke monday Feb 25th and I received the product Mon March 3rd. The stealth was okay. But when I opened the sealed package and then the baggy I couldn't smell any of that coke smell we all know and love. I then dabbed my finger with the powder to taste it and nothing no numbness at all and it tasted really powdery almost like flour and was the consistency of powdered sugar (but it wasn't powdered sugar)I messaged Sam with my concerns and he said that those are just the characteristics of his high heat coke and if I google pure coke it will show that it has no smell and no numbness to the tongue. So I did a rail...nothing, I didn't feel a thing. Now I rail and do it IV style when I mixed it up in the spoon it was milky and I could barely pull anything into the rig through the filter and there was so much shit left in the spoon,. I did a wack...nothing again. Messaged Sam again, he promised me it was high quality and it was for sure coke. Did a bigger wack and yet again nothing. I then had 3 friends try a rail each and didn't tell them anything and they looked at me and said what the fuck is this shit, they all tasted and said you got ripped off bro. Someone sold you bunk. Now I could handle poor quality street coke no probs but to not have any coke in it at all. Now for all of you who have been following the adventures of SamGiancana you have heard how he seems to be the unluckiest guy in the world, but he sent this out to me before he was robbed and then supposedly robbed by TeflonDon. I have asked him if I can send it back to him or how can we fix this but he says that I am the only customer to complain about the quality. believe me forum i would be cool with low quality coke at this point but the coke he sent me was so shitty, if there was coke in it,it was completely undetectable. I have tried to resolve this with Sam but even though he has messaged back, that amazing communication I once had with him wasn't there and finally he has told me to go find a new vendor as doesn't tolerate that kind of criticism of his product. Look people all I wanted was a night of doing coke and those of you who do coke can answer this would coke be sitting in a flap in your drawyer if it was real coke? Cuz real coke both shitty street quality and right off the brick quality would not last 5 minutes in my drawer where Sam's so called coke is sitting. I recieved the product Monday and now its Thursday I really waited so in case there was a mistake he could make it right or cancel what I have in escrow with him but alas no such luck, from the message I recieved from him last night. I felt I had to post this as I posted a glowing pre-product review in the newb section and I would hate to know people got ripped off because they read my post and decided to deal with Sam. I now really wonder about his character and I have since begun doubting his problem with TeflonDon. I am actually going to try a deal with TeflonDon and I promise you guys I will give a totally honest review of my dealings with him the minute the product arrives. I believed SamGiancan but now I'm not so sure and we will see if TeflonDon has been treated fairly or unjustly. So stay posted gang and I will keep you in the loop of how this goes.-obi (just your typical guy who would love to be giving a wicked product review rather than bitchin about getting ripped off) not to mention who would have loooovvvvved to do sum wicked "I can't feel my face" coke!-obi :(
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Sorry to hear you got ripped off but I don't think going from one shady guy to another shady guy is the answer. Why don't you stick to someone who you know is legit?
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That's a great point biglubes. I didn't order a big order from TeflonDon plus I have another coke order enroute just so I am not sitting around with fake dope again. I guess I wanted to see for myself if he is a rip off artist and give him an oppurtunity to prove himself to a regular canadian dope buyer. And at this point I wondered if TeflonDon is a scammer like I once believed and feel like my dealings with Sam have been bullshit so maybe some of the other stuff is as well. I feel as if I got a bum wrap,so maybe this stuff about Tdon is bullshit as well, and I want to see for myself how TeflonDon conducts business. I will keep you posted on my dealings with TeflonDon and give a true and honest product review so stay tuned-obi
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Sorry to hear you been ripped , but why you say buy with caution you should say dont buy at all.
and if i was you i would worry what the fuck i run trough my veins this fuckers will give you even rat poison just that will look the same
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I feel your pain dude, but could you use a paragraph every now and then?
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We do many tests on our products before we send them out.
We are not guessing when purchasing half a unit of coke if it is good quality or not.
The massive walls of text this person sent me trying to receive a free re-ship or refund is ridiculous,
members like you take advantage of the feedback system to sort of blackmail, and when I stand firm behind my product you go and post this, I know the quality of my drugs and I know you didn't get bad "cut to shit" coke.
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I am happy to say Sam fixed things in the end by canceling my order.
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I am happy to say Sam fixed things in the end by canceling my order.
So you're trying to say that Sam offered you 1 and 1/2 grams of coke for the price of one so you sent him coins for half a gram up front and then used escrow for the other half bag.
You then proceeded to claim the coke was not really coke (First person to ever complain about Sams product?) And in the end Sam refunded the half bag payment that was in escrow?
Now, why are you all of a sudden happy to accept the loss of the initial coins you sent him upfront for half the bag? Are you still claiming you got dud gear? Also why would you rail a line of coke, see there is no effect *cough* and then decide to shoot a foreign substance that you even said was murky into your veins? You are full of shit and a scam artist, its blatantly obvious you are junky scum by the way you manages to scam 1 and 1/2 G's and only had to pay for a 1/2, i wouldnt be surprised if you shot up your boyfriends murky semen just to get a high you loser cunt.
Sam, you should reveal this little pricks SR name and warn other vendors of his area, we dont need to deal with junky retards like this.
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Everyone please remember that 1 testimonial is not conclusive by any means of what you should expect from the vendor. There are always people who are out to blackmail and scam new vendors, and try to ruin their reputation. It's a terrible act that is looked down on by this community and for those who think this is a game, be aware that if you're scamming to your address or the address of a friend, that the vendor you're fucking with has this address and if they feel they are losing reputation over bullshit that isn't true, many things can come your way to worry about. Just something to think about for those who try to scam vendors or lower reputation with dishonest cause.
That said, I have not yet had the chance to buy from Sam, but I will be placing an order in a week or two and write up a review. From those I've talked to, and Sam himself, I don't think he's out to fuck around with anyone. I deal with this type of thing by trying the vendor for myself and if I'm satisfied, I go out of my way to write a positive review to improve the reputation of the individual, as I feel they undeservingly got negative feedback and publicity.
The only thing this post is telling me is that someone directly paid money for product and didn't use escrow which invalidates your argument by quite a lot. New vendors have to pay a $500 bond that isn't paid back until a minimum revenue of $1500 is generated, and that alone is enough for me to trust most new vendors at a basic level, which through the escrow system will keep me, the buyer completely safe from scamming.
I'm not taking sides here, but I am stating that it is important to look beyond 1 bad feedback rating and subsequent story further undermining the vendor. Stay in escrow and see for yourself!
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Total spent: vendors eyes only
Refund rate: 0%
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Member for: 6 months
I have made a few deals and all my vendors have had their funds released from escrow within 15 minutes of arrival except Sam's and you will see after reading his message to me that I wasn't fucking scamming like ODB says. And If I thought ODB was worth anything and a member who is someone I would let him pm the vendors I've dealt with. So I give an honest review of what happened to me and I get some goof telling me I'm a scammer. Its scary to get attacked for trying to give the forum an honest review of my dealings with a new vendor
I am putting this up in response to that ODB these are the last couple messages between SamGiancana and myself. We were hours from SR stepping in for the resolution and SamGiancana to my surprise had canceled the difference of the order. Anyway here is the messages the bottom one is the one I sent after Sam canceled and then Sam's reply is on top:
"SamGiancana I have had a couple more reports on it being bad now, turns out I was in the wrong, my supplier fucked me this time around I think. Sorry for everything, I refunded it. 3 days read
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ME "I am sorry for giving you such a hard time about but I figure something screwed up along the way. I wasn't lying about the quality but accidents happen and you may have given me the wrong package, I should have given you more time to figure it out. If you want I can send you what i have left of your package at my cost. I will make sure I post that we have resolved and you made good. I hope things get better for u so thanks for canceling. 3 days read
delete"
So as you can see I wasn't trying to fuck anyone around odb, maybe know what and who the fuck you are talking about before you start beaking off no need to be a goof about shit. All I did was give an honest review of what happened to me and like I said Sam made good with me Just know what the fuck you're talking about.
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No one should be buying from SamGiancana - his vendor account was banned due to several issues including feedback tampering, accepting WU for payment instead of bitcoin, and being someone who has scammed under several other aliases before. He is still advertising and asking people to purchase through forum PM -- this is obviously not permitted, and if you do this, there is no way for support to help you or get your money back.
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Thanks for the Heads up Scout, I am glad I gave my review to beware of buying from him but when you get crucified in the posts by people for warning them, it really makes me think twice about giving an honest review in the future . After reading what Scout has said here those of you should be ashamed of yourselves for calling me a scammer.I mean is that what this has turned into a facebookesque bully chatroom. 8)
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You should NEVER feel like you can't give honest reviews! I'm sorry you felt that way -- please rest assured that honest reviews are an integral part of keeping our community as safe and as scam-free as possible.
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Hi Forum This is a description of my dealings with SamGiancana, 11days ago Sun Feb 24th I asked SamGiancana for a small sample of his coke when I saw he was a new vendor. He replied saying he could give me 1&1/2gram of his high heat Coke for the price of a gram. I said cool I sent him half the price directly to him (stupid me) and 1/2 in escrow. His communication was so great and fast that I figured he would be a good vendor with a quality product. He shipped out the coke monday Feb 25th and I received the product Mon March 3rd. The stealth was okay. But when I opened the sealed package and then the baggy I couldn't smell any of that coke smell we all know and love. I then dabbed my finger with the powder to taste it and nothing no numbness at all and it tasted really powdery almost like flour and was the consistency of powdered sugar (but it wasn't powdered sugar)I messaged Sam with my concerns and he said that those are just the characteristics of his high heat coke and if I google pure coke it will show that it has no smell and no numbness to the tongue. So I did a rail...nothing, I didn't feel a thing. Now I rail and do it IV style when I mixed it up in the spoon it was milky and I could barely pull anything into the rig through the filter and there was so much shit left in the spoon,. I did a wack...nothing again. Messaged Sam again, he promised me it was high quality and it was for sure coke. Did a bigger wack and yet again nothing. I then had 3 friends try a rail each and didn't tell them anything and they looked at me and said what the fuck is this shit, they all tasted and said you got ripped off bro. Someone sold you bunk. Now I could handle poor quality street coke no probs but to not have any coke in it at all. Now for all of you who have been following the adventures of SamGiancana you have heard how he seems to be the unluckiest guy in the world, but he sent this out to me before he was robbed and then supposedly robbed by TeflonDon. I have asked him if I can send it back to him or how can we fix this but he says that I am the only customer to complain about the quality. believe me forum i would be cool with low quality coke at this point but the coke he sent me was so shitty, if there was coke in it,it was completely undetectable. I have tried to resolve this with Sam but even though he has messaged back, that amazing communication I once had with him wasn't there and finally he has told me to go find a new vendor as doesn't tolerate that kind of criticism of his product. Look people all I wanted was a night of doing coke and those of you who do coke can answer this would coke be sitting in a flap in your drawyer if it was real coke? Cuz real coke both shitty street quality and right off the brick quality would not last 5 minutes in my drawer where Sam's so called coke is sitting. I recieved the product Monday and now its Thursday I really waited so in case there was a mistake he could make it right or cancel what I have in escrow with him but alas no such luck, from the message I recieved from him last night. I felt I had to post this as I posted a glowing pre-product review in the newb section and I would hate to know people got ripped off because they read my post and decided to deal with Sam. I now really wonder about his character and I have since begun doubting his problem with TeflonDon. I am actually going to try a deal with TeflonDon and I promise you guys I will give a totally honest review of my dealings with him the minute the product arrives. I believed SamGiancan but now I'm not so sure and we will see if TeflonDon has been treated fairly or unjustly. So stay posted gang and I will keep you in the loop of how this goes.-obi (just your typical guy who would love to be giving a wicked product review rather than bitchin about getting ripped off) not to mention who would have loooovvvvved to do sum wicked "I can't feel my face" coke!-obi :(
These bad sellers only ruin the community SR going to buy from sellers honest and above all they sell quality products, sorry my friend, these former sellers SR SUPPORT has permanently discontinued their profiles and did the best thing SR.
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Thanks for the Support Scout and Bulldog :) Not all Canadian Dealers are rogue Lexq, NorthernDancer, Tomorrowman have all been good and products as described with me personally. And if I was to purchase right now, I would have confidence buying off all three.
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Thanks for the Support Scout and Bulldog :) Not all Canadian Dealers are rogue Lexq, NorthernDancer, Tomorrowman have all been good and products as described with me personally. And if I was to purchase right now, I would have confidence buying off all three.
I have not spoken evil of all the vendors and would never do that, or I just said That there are sellers who are scammers and rip Especially money to customers is not a good thing from my point of view.
Customers should be treated in the best way possible.
two of my cleinti the seller DON whatever it's called has cheated them are not things you do, if you want to earn the dollars going to rob a bank if they have the balls.
speech closed tread etc.
I hate the scammers! >:(
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I hate the scammers! >:(
...and you've had how many vendor accounts banned now?
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You should NEVER feel like you can't give honest reviews! I'm sorry you felt that way -- please rest assured that honest reviews are an integral part of keeping our community as safe and as scam-free as possible.
dude i also hope that people will give always there honest review without been afraid of the reactions of other people i believed you from the first moments ;) cheers