Silk Road forums
Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: garlow2000 on January 17, 2013, 05:13 am
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I think it will work in the short term while they figure out some posting scripts but then they will return :(
If this annoyance is what it takes to get a break from the spam then so be it !
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I agree that it is probably a short term solution. ;)
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I believe it's the only way to stop them tbh. They wouldn't want to waste that much time writing 50 different posts just to spam their websites,etc.
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If only i knew about this tomorrow I woulda posted some useful info on the other threads haha
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Another option would be to charge a 1 time subscription fee to join the forums. Say 0.5 btc - that would surely deter the spammers. It would be well worth it in my opinion :)
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No
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It is a non-solution.
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It has worked well tonight to keep the spam off of the rest of the forum! We've deleted three different spammer accounts - all of whom were only able to post in the newbie section before they were banned.
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It has worked well tonight to keep the spam off of the rest of the forum! We've deleted three different spammer accounts - all of whom were only able to post in the newbie section before they were banned.
Awesome! Just to let you know, one started messaging me lol..
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Yeah, they message you if you have your profile set to show your online status. If you have it set to hide your online status, then you usually won't be included in their spam-PMs.
If they PM you again, let me know and I'll pass the username along to the admins for deletion.
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It is a great solution right now! It is pretty annoying seeing a million different threads about 20 different bitcoin places that are probably all scams to begin with!
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Yeah, hopefully over the next several days it will continue to help! I truly believe that's why they made this Newbie section - to make sure the Newbies who got access to the rest of the forums are actual users, and not spam-bot scammers!
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this is awesome-honestly. that madfhadfahdsf dude hit me up on messages and before i can give him a piece of my mind and some plastic from my keyboard, he was gone. poof! Its gunna be nice not seeing those fucking annoying names and even more annoying thread titles down at the kool kids club...where i'm headed 8)
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Probs to who thought about it! Truthfully like why do people have the need to feel so obnoxious. We are all in this world together why disrupt the good energy!
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It has worked well tonight to keep the spam off of the rest of the forum! We've deleted three different spammer accounts - all of whom were only able to post in the newbie section before they were banned.
Really thats good. If it works then I guess it is worth it.
All the spam adds were getting on my nerves too.
But now I am taped in a thread with them and I have a long way to go to get out.
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Just look at 4chan, I think they've recently just gotten rid of the spammers
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obviously it hasn't bloody worked. has it..
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How good is captcha in preventing spam programs anyway? It seems they're smarter by the day, I have major difficulty getting most newer captchas myself...
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How good is captcha in preventing spam programs anyway? It seems they're smarter by the day, I have major difficulty getting most newer captchas myself...
I'm a n00b with computers and I found a working captcha bot after 5 minutes of googling so it's not THAT good. Its a tad slow though, so I'm gonna just type the captcha myself.
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The big problem will be when bots get more intelligent than people, there will be nothing but spam on the internet :)
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Doesnt seem to be judging from the main boards. Bitcoin spam everywhere
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I wonder what kinda people are spaming, they must not have very much to do in their life. There is so much out there that we don't know about, if they put as much time as they did in spamming every forums they can get access to then this world would be a different place, along with what the internet, could maybe do.
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Remember in December when SR was down for days? Getting real info was extremely tedious because we had to sift through all those posts of people creating new personas to post conspiracy theories, spam, flames, and misinformation. As 'entertaining' it may have been at first (ya right), I did expect something like this to happen eventually.
The problem is that the majority of people here are posting legitimately. It's the small minority-- spammers, kids, trouble-makers-- who ruin it for the rest of us. It's the same reason salvia divinorum became federally scheduled. No one gave a damn about it until it got bad press from people who advertized it-- posting youtube videos for instance-- or behaved stupidly in a way that drew public attention.
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agreed
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How about a captua?
Why does it have to be 50? why not 10? Wouldn't 10 posts be noticed fast enough?
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Ugh.
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No.
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10 posts can be done in like 5 minutes if they're just copy and pasting the same thing.
50 will take a bit longer and are mods really going to be looking every minute to be able to catch a new account thats spamming everywhere within 5min?
It sucks but its better than the spam everywhere.
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50 posts to stop spammers? I don't even think it would need to be 50 posts, maybe 5 or 10 would do for the most part.
You will never stop i completely. As for the CAPTCHAs they are a joke now a days. There are services out there where you can pay pennies for every correct CAPTCHA entered. These services have several people that all day long all they do is get CAPTCHAs and type it in for you. This is for automated spamming.
Don't ask how I know about such services. 8)
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50 posts to stop spammers? I don't even think it would need to be 50 posts, maybe 5 or 10 would do for the most part.
You'd be surprised - last night, spammers posted up to 15 posts within 2 minutes of registration. I don't know how they do that, but they did ... in fact, about 30 different ones did. It was awful and time-consuming to deal with, but at least it was all stuck in the newbie forum.
5 to 10 posts would definitely NOT be enough. In fact, while I was deleting one bunch of spammer messages, another spammer was able to get up to 35 in less than 5 minutes!
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Please, improve the registration system instead of giving users who would like to ellaborate a disadvantage.
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not at all, just make the rest of the "newbies" spam like crazy
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up up
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50 is a lot
My suggestion would be to put a limit on how often new members can post. So people who just joined couldnt posted every minute.
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not at all, just make the rest of the "newbies" spam like crazy
There is a difference between actual users spamming to get their 50 posts and spammers spamming in order to scam people out of their money.
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50 is a lot
My suggestion would be to put a limit on how often new members can post. So people who just joined couldnt posted every minute.
50 is definitely too much
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Sounds like the programmers need to get their shit together if spammers can bypass the capcha system. Not fair to force all the customers to do this whenever someone signs up and wants to participate in the SR forum.
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Its gonna cut down on spam a lot I think, so thats one good thing...
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I have seen great improvement! I am also glad to finally nearing the end to this maddness. I think the 50 posts does help the newer users. Even though they dont have full access maybe it makes them look through everything before asking to many already asked questions
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The knives going to cut both ways affecting sellers buyers too - but if you've been on the SR forum for awhile - the spammers are a bunch of relentless shitbags and it is very annoying - as Scout mentioned they hit fast & furious
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Would've been nice to get some notice....I was really confused for a while there why there was no reply button!
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wow i found a reply button 8)
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Everyone knows that the best way to deal with assholes is to treat everyone like they are an asshole.
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The best way to stop spammers is to have a delay on all new threads created. A mod then briefly scrolls through "pending" threads and weeds out the spammers before confirming the legitimate threads. There are enough mods to make this idea feasible.
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Fuck spammers and scammers!
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Whoa, I never knew that spammers were that constant in spamming. Although I guess it would be implied with the name... ::)
Anyways, thank you to all the Silk Road staff! :)
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50 is a lot
My suggestion would be to put a limit on how often new members can post. So people who just joined couldnt posted every minute.
50 is definitely too much
I agree! 50 is a little high. It should be more like 30 or so, even if that allows 1 spammer through. I've been a member of another forum for two years and only have about 600 posts.
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thinking about it...... not a bad idea
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108854.0
We need to get to 50 quickly because asking to forward our thread might take a while or will not be done at all.
SR could even simply move that topic to the right subforum to provide some service, instead of deleting post at actual time the chemicals were smoking and we were at the scene.
Account creation date is same time. We do not use the forums at all because of sick bastards being on here and having serious doubts about the integrity of SR.
We do read. One person posted that ordering from SR is saver than in real life because you actually get what you order and can not be gunned down.
Risk on SR is that you can not even see what is really going on/being saved without your consent and (new) vendors have the ability to completely ruin, or even KILL people when and if they want to.
After this we feel a lot saver buying on the streets. You can avoid camera's, come with 2 people and if you feel you need to, search for recording devices. Most dealers are not complete psychopaths though. And taking a lot of risk when selling to new customers. Which is why they sometimes demand introduction by a regular, trusted customer. Advantage is that they get their money immediately. But the prices are fair. On SR people still just list whatever the fuck they want and ask prices that are way too high. And sadly, people are actually so stupid as to buy it, give good feedback and reviews and do not realize they could have gotten 10 times the same amount on the streets.
We do not trust SR or vendors anymore at all right now. Hopefully some miracle will happen but chances are 99,99% that will not happen. We will also advice against using SR to buy drugs as it can be very dangerous and lead to people dying.
They can raise commission how much they want. Raise vendor prices. They must get a lot of money each day while being untrue to what they claim. They keep a history of past transactions that have been finalized. For a pretty long time.
Would be saver to delete them with good deletion software.
And maybe, just maybe this has some special forum coding that is required for onion sites. If not then this is the worst forum in dealing with spam that exists. Clear web websites do not have these problems.
Perhaps SR pay people to make those spam posts and now take retarded supposedly counter measures in order to seem legit.
Fuck this all. Wake up people!
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Fuck spammers, man.
They are annoying little pest. 50 post is somewhat too much but hey, its their forum and their rules. Oh well.
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;l;lk;
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sdgs
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I FEEL like a spammer trying to get to 50. I JUST want to write reviews of the vendors I have used. :(av
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lubbley jubbley
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I think it will work for now. It would be nice to see some sort of authenticator implemented between the sr site and the forums once you've had several purchases.
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Cheese on toast!
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ewrwe
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hate this dsa
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obviously it is... ive been here for a while and i cant even post
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Fuck spammers and scammers!
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I wonder if they thought this through when they implemented this. Vendors are gonna scam all the people that sound new now and they won't be able to do shit about it because they have to have 50 posts to post on their threads lol
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With all respect to the attempt to thwart spamming and the energy that's going/gone into this, some of threads/posts I've found most valuable or interesting on this board have been from people who have (or had at the time) <50 posts.
Sometimes people just take a crazy notion to sit down for 70-80 minutes and write a careful, detailed, helpful post for a bunch of people they don't know... but it's relatively unlikely they're going to write 50 messages as a preamble.
Quick off the cuff examples --
Former Prosecutor… Ask Away.
HJAnslinger (43)
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=92097.0
Former Postal Inspection Service Intern
janetreno (7 posts at the time the thread started)
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=346.0
Australian LE Report on BC/SR
Winters86 (7)
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=38319.0
Maybe lower post count and then approval?
Oh, look, there's a string of bitcointalks topics appearing right now. edit: which were slain with awesome swiftness :)
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I agree with Dalmata, this 50 posts thing is not going to work to get rid of spammers and may prevent people with something valuable to contribute from participating.
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Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Definitely frustrating still seeing spammers and being unable to contribute reviews and reply to threads that I was previously engaged in. I wish they had taken account age into some sort of consideration.
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The way I see it, if someone wants to write a detailed essay regarding information that's valuable to the forum then they could do it in the newbie section? Then someone could link the post in the Rumour Mill for other people to chime in.
Not ideal but hey.
This seems to be the most active forum as other people like myself are trying to reach 50 posts in order to join in with the other discussions!
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it's pretty effective at stopping newbie posters, I can imagine spammers having less resolve. On the other hand, I'm imagining it's been pretty effective at introducing naive newbie's wanting only to provide helpful contributions on appropriate forums into the vagaries of spouting incoherent nonsense wherever it's possible.
I suppose as a right of passage type thing it beats being hung from a tree using hooks hanging from your nipples...
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Is it not possible to use ReCaptcha on onion websites? Or are there privacy concerns?
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I am just spammig until I get to 50
waste of time really
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well, now the newbie-forum will be spammed... :D
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Here's a solution to the spam problem: Have someone who can currently post in the other forums give new users who deserve it +1 karma. From then on, they can post in the non-newbie forums as well.
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The big problem will be when bots get more intelligent than people, there will be nothing but spam on the internet :)
If the bots are more intelligent than the people... wouldn't that make it not spam?
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if someone gets 100 posts are their able to give fake karma? if a scammer can it would be horrible for trustful members...
Peace
“Be not ashamed of mistakes and thus make them crimes.”
-Confucius
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I would have thought 25 posts would have been enough, but whatever. I'm down with 50 because I have to be. Anything to sit at the big kids' table.
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To the OP?
Maybe :P
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Is it not possible to use ReCaptcha on onion websites? Or are there privacy concerns?
It does seem to help a lot.
Next thing that can be implemented is not allow the same thread twice, so if there might be still a stubborn spam scammer, he just can not copy and paste any-more.
But this 50 post thing does seem to keep those nasty spam scammers away. A victory against cyber-crime.
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OOoh first post!!! OMW to 50!
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Numero Dos
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It should only apply to new accounts. I made my account a long time ago, I have only 20 posts because I only come here when I'm high and need to be chatty lol.
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This is a major waste of time