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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: ThoseWhoChose on January 08, 2013, 08:07 am
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Hey i'm new to this whole thing and i want to establish a good buyer feedback. How can I do so? send money first and finalize early? I'm just wondering because I don't want to buy the wrong thing and get ripped off. I'm looking for a gram of H for around 10 BTC with shipping.
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are you talking about when you transfer your btc to silkroad? sorry if it sounds dumb, im new to this.
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Read all the major sections of the Silk Road Wiki: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
Finalizing early means ordering product from a vendor then releasing the funds from escrow before you have actually received the product at your door.
Use vendors with high ratings (the numbers next to their name)
Research the vendors beforehand on the forum and read the feedback left on their profile page
If you have a question, use the forum's search feature beforehand, you can also search vendors names/reviews with it and anything else
If you're going to be doing H and in the future know you'll be going through withdrawal make sure you have a vendor with good fucking shipping speeds and is domestic.
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Read read read, and if you are not sure then dont order and start at the first sentence again. A good place to start
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=42094.0
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I think the above posters have already given some great advice about where to start - trust me reading all those sections will provide you with a wealth of starting knowledge, from there it is going to come down to experience.
As a new buyer it is obvious that the vendors will be apprehensive, after all having no stats and then starting to purchase medium to large orders will probably end up with some vendors to ask for FE or cancelling your order completely, therefore I would recommend sticking to small orders and building up a base of confidence and your buyer stats to boot, I also recommend messaging the vendor and introducing yourself as a first time buyer - to buying from him/her or buying in general to SR, I've always found this a polite thing to do and will always help you get the best reaction.
Anything from there will depend upon your personality and the path you decide to take!
Welcome to the Road and good luck :)
makku
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when you need fucking real good H than buy from c63amg.
he ship from netherlands with signature on delivery or not.
and a amazing shipping time from 2-3days.
very secure package. 1g 9-10 bitcoins
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and do never FE!!!
is your risk
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Hey i'm new to this whole thing and i want to establish a good buyer feedback. How can I do so? send money first and finalize early? I'm just wondering because I don't want to buy the wrong thing and get ripped off. I'm looking for a gram of H for around 10 BTC with shipping.
ALWAYS use PGP to encrypt your address information.
See Astor's tutorial page: http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/
Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP-Key: 4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22
Key fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7 3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090
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Use PGP when sending your address. I can't beleive how many people send their address plain text.
Also, when you send your key make sure you send the _PUBLIC_ key, not the private key. Two people in the last 10 days have sent us their private keys.
I also advise that you do not finalize early. We do not ask new users to finalize early for our LSD. When you finalize early you are at the mercy of the vendor.
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Hey i'm new to this whole thing and i want to establish a good buyer feedback. How can I do so? send money first and finalize early? I'm just wondering because I don't want to buy the wrong thing and get ripped off. I'm looking for a gram of H for around 10 BTC with shipping.
Your title says "Any tips to new buyers":
Stay stocked up, SR goes down from time to time. Maintain some real life connections. Same goes for Bitcoin, keep some BTC stashed as you never know when you are going to encounter difficulty or delays obtaining coin. I keep a few dollars in my SR account but the big money is stored away from the site.
Also, please do as Nightcrawler suggests, he is an expert in these matters: ALWAYS use PGP. From me: Don't use vendors who don't use PGP.
Good luck and welcome to SR :)
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Always check your URL. there is lots of scamming going on. I have just had a successful outcome but it took a few mistakes expensive mistakes. SR is just fantastic for people like me that live a long way away from any metropolis. Stay domestic and small to begin with. Build a relationship with your vendor.
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Thanks alot guys... I think I did get scammed but for only 8 btc, ordered something from LUPEN before realizing people said he was no good, but now i've learned. I didn't even use PGP but from now on that's all I'm going to use to be on the safe side.
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Take a look at the vendors NorCal and RXking. Good vendors have active feedback, don't require you to FE, provide clear instructions, and have great communication. Send them a message before buying explaining that you are new and would like to make a purchase, as mentioned earlier. Read the vendor instructions they list and don't ask a stupid question that's covered in their instructions. Good vendors will answer legitimate questions but have little patience for lack of due diligence from a rookie. Use the forum search tool. I am fairly new and have a 100% delivery rate because of the vendors I choose to deal with. I see a lot of new people complaining about losses because they choose the wrong vendor.FE on time and have fun.
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1) STAY IN ESCROW
2) MAKE SOME SMALL PURCHASES ----> THIS WILL RAISE YOUR STATS
3) ONCE YOUR STATS ARE HIGHER, VENDORS FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE DEALING WITH YOU AND MORE OBLIGED TO KEEP YOU IN ESCROW
4) YOU=HAPPY
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Generally new buyers have to finalize early [FE]. This means the vendor gets paid before they ship. I require FE all the time for almost everyone, not just new people. Look long and hard at a seller's feedback before you buy from them. When you see a (100) next to a seller's name that is a pretty good indication that they are legit. Some good ones have (99). I wouldn't go any lower than that generally or you start to get vendors who are not consistent. Read over their feedbacks and look for trends like bad products or bad stealth. Don't just look at the first page of feedbacks!!!! Go through a bunch of them.
If you need anabolic steroids or diet pills or benzos please look at my profile. You will see a link in my signature below this post. Note also that you should read my (or any seller's) entire profile before you order. There is a damn good reason we go to the effort of writing all of that. We want to make sure that we are on the same page of music as our buyers. If there are misunderstandings then our feedback % is in jeopardy, and sellers who value their feedback over and above all else put a lot of time and effort into the profile page and lay down the terms exactly. We just want to avoid misunderstandings that lead to disgruntled customers.
Most of all have fun! Silk Road should be a pleasure to use not a scary chore. Spend time on the forums here and learn all about the logistics of ordering, or just jump right in with a dealer who has a very high % and you will likely have a great experience here on the road. Best of luck!
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Nope no need for a newb section here.
X)
nomad
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Generally new buyers have to finalize early [FE]. This means the vendor gets paid before they ship. I require FE all the time for almost everyone, not just new people.
All of your advice was great except for this part. No buyer ever HAS to finalize early. If the vendor someone is looking at requires FE, there is almost always another legitimate vendor of the same product who DOESN'T require FE.
For new buyers (and all buyers, for that matter), my best advice on this is actually NOT to finalize early. ESPECIALLY when you're new!
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+1 scout good advice
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Your title says "Any tips to new buyers":
Stay stocked up, SR goes down from time to time. Maintain some real life connections. Same goes for Bitcoin, keep some BTC stashed as you never know when you are going to encounter difficulty or delays obtaining coin. I keep a few dollars in my SR account but the big money is stored away from the site.
Also, please do as Nightcrawler suggests, he is an expert in these matters: ALWAYS use PGP. From me: Don't use vendors who don't use PGP.
Good luck and welcome to SR :)
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Great advise i do this just never thought on passing this great info along
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Yes , Read,Read,Read and then Read some More Knowledge is Power or in this case no jail time :)
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Generally new buyers have to finalize early [FE]. This means the vendor gets paid before they ship. I require FE all the time for almost everyone, not just new people. Look long and hard at a seller's feedback before you buy from them. When you see a (100) next to a seller's name that is a pretty good indication that they are legit. Some good ones have (99). I wouldn't go any lower than that generally or you start to get vendors who are not consistent. Read over their feedbacks and look for trends like bad products or bad stealth. Don't just look at the first page of feedbacks!!!! Go through a bunch of them.
If you need anabolic steroids or diet pills or benzos please look at my profile. You will see a link in my signature below this post. Note also that you should read my (or any seller's) entire profile before you order. There is a damn good reason we go to the effort of writing all of that. We want to make sure that we are on the same page of music as our buyers. If there are misunderstandings then our feedback % is in jeopardy, and sellers who value their feedback over and above all else put a lot of time and effort into the profile page and lay down the terms exactly. We just want to avoid misunderstandings that lead to disgruntled customers.
Most of all have fun! Silk Road should be a pleasure to use not a scary chore. Spend time on the forums here and learn all about the logistics of ordering, or just jump right in with a dealer who has a very high % and you will likely have a great experience here on the road. Best of luck!
Nice to get an honorable mention! But just to clarify one point. Looking for a 100% or 99% feedback makes little importance if they are ranked in the "top" 90+% of ALL vendors. They can have 100% positive feedback & only have 5 transactions . . . look for the high feedback WITH a top 20% of sellers to make sure they are established.
NCK
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Hey i'm new to this whole thing and i want to establish a good buyer feedback. How can I do so? send money first and finalize early? I'm just wondering because I don't want to buy the wrong thing and get ripped off. I'm looking for a gram of H for around 10 BTC with shipping.
ALWAYS use PGP to encrypt your address information.
See Astor's tutorial page: http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/
Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP-Key: 4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22
Key fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7 3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090
@Nightcrawle------Can you explain why it is so important for a buyer to encrypt their address?
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1. NEVER FE
2.DO YOUR RESEARCH ON YOUR VENDOR,READ THROUGH HIS FEEDBCKS,LOOK AT HOME MNY TRANSACTIONS HE'S MADE,NEEDS TO BE AT LEST OVER 100 IMO.
MAKE SURE HE HS A GOOD RATING BY HIS NAME.
3. DONT GO FOR THE FIRST VENDOR U SEE, HAVE PATIENCE.
4.COME TO THE FORUMS AND SEE WHAT PPL R SAYING ABOUT HIM OR WAS SAYING ABOUT HIM, DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON THE GUY.
5. ASK HERO MEMBER FOR HELP,OR ANY MEMBER WHO ISNT NEW, MOST ALL R GLADE TO HELP. I WOULD HATE TO SEE SOMEONE GET SCAMMED, SO ASK A OLDER MEMBER HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE VENDOR YOUR LOOKING INTO..
I THINK THATS PRETTY MUCH IT..SORRY BRO IM NOT YELLING CAUSE MY CAPS R ON I CANT SEE WITHOUT MY GLASSES .LOL
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5. ASK HERO MEMBER FOR HELP,OR ANY MEMBER WHO ISNT NEW, MOST ALL R GLADE TO HELP. I WOULD HATE TO SEE SOMEONE GET SCAMMED, SO ASK A OLDER MEMBER HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE VENDOR YOUR LOOKING INTO..
With this new newbie section idea, I fear this aint gonna happen as non newbs can't reply in the newb section...
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Generally new buyers have to finalize early [FE]. This means the vendor gets paid before they ship. I require FE all the time for almost everyone, not just new people. Look long and hard at a seller's feedback before you buy from them. When you see a (100) next to a seller's name that is a pretty good indication that they are legit. Some good ones have (99). I wouldn't go any lower than that generally or you start to get vendors who are not consistent. Read over their feedbacks and look for trends like bad products or bad stealth. Don't just look at the first page of feedbacks!!!! Go through a bunch of them.
If you need anabolic steroids or diet pills or benzos please look at my profile. You will see a link in my signature below this post. Note also that you should read my (or any seller's) entire profile before you order. There is a damn good reason we go to the effort of writing all of that. We want to make sure that we are on the same page of music as our buyers. If there are misunderstandings then our feedback % is in jeopardy, and sellers who value their feedback over and above all else put a lot of time and effort into the profile page and lay down the terms exactly. We just want to avoid misunderstandings that lead to disgruntled customers.
Most of all have fun! Silk Road should be a pleasure to use not a scary chore. Spend time on the forums here and learn all about the logistics of ordering, or just jump right in with a dealer who has a very high % and you will likely have a great experience here on the road. Best of luck!
Nice to get an honorable mention! But just to clarify one point. Looking for a 100% or 99% feedback makes little importance if they are ranked in the "top" 90+% of ALL vendors. They can have 100% positive feedback & only have 5 transactions . . . look for the high feedback WITH a top 20% of sellers to make sure they are established.
NCK
+1 Definitely look at the number of transactions as well as the feedback %. Sorry I missed this important point.
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dont forget to put a few bitcoins into DPR's wallet for a tip. He's the creator of the site.
Here is his address:
15aU3mWBdm5MNPHa5nsz4huPPCNcHwCLnE
Cool.
Lesson #1 OP never trust anyone when it comes to your btcs.
canuckboy is a scammer.
I've quoted him so now he can not edit his post as a defense against his ruthless attempt to scam the community using DPR as his motive and trust factor.
This has been yet again another free sample of common sense courtesy of nomad bloodbath.
X)
nomad
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Hey i'm new to this whole thing and i want to establish a good buyer feedback. How can I do so? send money first and finalize early? I'm just wondering because I don't want to buy the wrong thing and get ripped off. I'm looking for a gram of H for around 10 BTC with shipping.
ALWAYS use PGP to encrypt your address information.
See Astor's tutorial page: http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/
Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP-Key: 4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22
Key fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7 3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090
@Nightcrawle------Can you explain why it is so important for a buyer to encrypt their address?
Think of it as an insurance policy of sorts. The idea behind using PGP/GPG to encrypt one's address is to prevent anyone except the vendor from being able to access the buyer's address information. This is primarily a precaution against hacking/infiltration of Silk Road. It's a bit like a seatbelt or airbags in a car -- better to have it, and not need it, than need it and not have it.
Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP-Key: 4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22
Key fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7 3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B
PGP Key: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090