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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: AUSID on January 03, 2013, 01:05 am

Title: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: AUSID on January 03, 2013, 01:05 am
So a few weeks ago, a SR user by the name of "1stepahead" contacts me out of the blue:

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"Hey bro i put an orda through u for a gram of gear over 3weeks ago and stil havent recieved it yet. I am curious to know were it is bro. I have bulk purchases on here and im having trouble finding the date and transaction number. I spend over 20thousand a week on here so i got transaction numbers out my ass. I realy hope there is somethng to sort out what i lost. I hope we kan get this sorted as i would purchase a hel of alot more bkoz quality of the ice here in perth is adverage so ive been looking hard to find absolute dynamite gear bkoz i wil purchase fukn truck loads pw"

So wtf is this. I've never sold this guy any 1 gram of Crystal Meth. He never purchased any. There was no orders, no messages from him previously. He cannot provide a date of purchase, or the transaction number - And there was no way it would have auto-finalized early, because there would be a record in Transaction history.

He then proceeds to threaten me, says if I don't want to tarnish my reputation, I will fix this situation and send him the product. I message him saying where is the proof or details that he ever ordered from me, because I have certainly never seen the order. After a few back and forth messages, threats of violence from bikies - he makes me an offer:

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"Il tel u what il gve u my phne even if u send me half a gram now and half when we sort this fuck up out would be fair for both parties champ. Thats an easy resolution."

That's really fair it seems. I decline and tell him to contact admin to find out whats going, because if he actually lost money, SR has it, not me. He agrees. Two weeks have passed. Today I login to get a message from him again:

"Silk road said that orda was placed to u and bitcoins taken so wtf man. Why dog me"

Something isn't right with this dude. Any input? Kinda frustrating and trying to stay calm when most of his messages are accusing me of scamming and taking his money without sending his order and that this isn't the way to be a vendor etc. WTF.   :-\
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: BlarghRawr on January 03, 2013, 01:12 am
YOU contact SR. Doesn't rely on him. Clearly he has no proof of buying from you. Given such, is it really such a surprise that he would lie and claim that they are on his side? He wants a free gram of fucking meth. Clearly the guy is an addict, clearly you need to be doing something more than trusting him to tell you the truth. How naive are you, seriously?

But clearly he's just a waste of life trying to get free drugs.

Also, his name is 1stepahead. Does he need to paint you a picture that says "I am a scammer" on top of that? He knows what he's doing, and he's trying to rip you off...

Or you really did lose the records of the transaction. Fortunately, account-history is kept for 3 months so you can go back and check every single one of your transactions to see if you had an order from him that got passed-over before.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: bigz on January 03, 2013, 01:18 am
Why did you need to make a thread about this?
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: AUSID on January 03, 2013, 01:20 am
He is threatening to come on the forums to tarnish my rep unless I give him his product or money back.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: AUSID on January 03, 2013, 01:29 am
Well I know he's obviously scamming, but I posted this to show just how blatantly obvious his attempt is. I have the transaction history and of course there is nothing there to show that he has paid or made an order. I mean, there's no way an order would have been missed in the first place.


YOU contact SR. Doesn't rely on him. Clearly he has no proof of buying from you. Given such, is it really such a surprise that he would lie and claim that they are on his side? He wants a free gram of fucking meth. Clearly the guy is an addict, clearly you need to be doing something more than trusting him to tell you the truth. How naive are you, seriously?

But clearly he's just a waste of life trying to get free drugs.

Also, his name is 1stepahead. Does he need to paint you a picture that says "I am a scammer" on top of that? He knows what he's doing, and he's trying to rip you off...

Or you really did lose the records of the transaction. Fortunately, account-history is kept for 3 months so you can go back and check every single one of your transactions to see if you had an order from him that got passed-over before.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: CrazyBart on January 03, 2013, 01:31 am
He is threatening to come on the forums to tarnish my rep unless I give him his product or money back.

You are either dumb, or actually did scam a few people and are just prepping for the forum backlash. I mean, come on, who gives a fuck about someone trying to get free drugs from you. Ignore it and move on.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: AUSID on January 03, 2013, 01:48 am
Was it necessary for the insult ? I thought the forums was a place of fair discussion. Chances are he's tried it with other vendors, and just wanted to know if that user is recognized by anyone.

He is threatening to come on the forums to tarnish my rep unless I give him his product or money back.
You are either dumb, or actually did scam a few people and are just prepping for the forum backlash. I mean, come on, who gives a fuck about someone trying to get free drugs from you. Ignore it and move on.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: BruceCampbell on January 03, 2013, 01:53 am
Call him a bitch and move on.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: muchlove on January 03, 2013, 02:13 am
Dude don't worry about some dickhead telling you he will tarnish your rep on here, Many people will see this post and I agree this forum should be a place of fairness and a place to come for advice if needed. So dude just ignore the messages, I have to agree with most people in saying he's an addict trying to get free drugs.... Also he says in very very very bad English, that he will buy truck loads off you... Dude he's just said you owe him a gram, He is a scammer, Someone who buys truck loads does not buy a gram :) Just screw him and chin up! ^_^
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: saitekman12345 on January 03, 2013, 03:14 am
Haha...wow dude.

First off this guy cannot type for shit & he claims he ordered from you?

He's probably a desperate meth head trying to get his daily dosage.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: GORDENRAMSEY on January 03, 2013, 03:50 am
Looked up the name 1stepahead and it seems he doesn't exist
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: BlarghRawr on January 03, 2013, 04:01 am
Looked up the name 1stepahead and it seems he doesn't exist
Here or on SR? Non-vendor accounts don't have a stealth-option so unless he doesn't exist on both forums and SR, I wouldn't worry.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: n1ll0 on January 03, 2013, 04:31 am
Call him a bitch and move on.

seconded..haha
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: BenJesuit on January 03, 2013, 05:40 am
No worries.

Since he didn't order from you, he can't affect the rep that counts most - your vendor feedback stats.

If he comes on the forum and attempts to ruin your rep, buyers will see the attempt for what it is since the claim of scamming
won't match your Vendor rating on SR. In fact, some of your past customers would probably chime in and defend your rep
by relaying their positive experiences.

So you're all good. Don't give it another thought. 
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: BlarghRawr on January 03, 2013, 05:51 am
No worries.

Since he didn't order from you, he can't affect the rep that counts most - your vendor feedback stats.

If he comes on the forum and attempts to ruin your rep, buyers will see the attempt for what it is since the claim of scamming
won't match your Vendor rating on SR. In fact, some of your past customers would probably chime in and defend your rep
by relaying their positive experiences.

So you're all good. Don't give it another thought.
Won't even need past customers to defend his rep. ... oh hey, I should probably be adding 1stepahead to my blackmailer's list. Consider that done. :)
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: digitalpunk on January 03, 2013, 06:52 am
Don't worry about him AUSID, he tried the same shit on me. Funny thing is he didn't even bother to check the products I was selling at the time. I was going to mention it on the vender forums but it was such a lame attempt at scamming I didn't bother wasting my time.

DP
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: BlarghRawr on January 03, 2013, 06:54 am
Don't worry about him AUSID, he tried the same shit on me. Funny thing is he didn't even bother to check the products I was selling at the time. I was going to mention it on the vender forums but it was such a lame attempt at scamming I didn't bother wasting my time.

DP
I'll take the mention, though! Besides, blackmailers shouldn't be confined to the vendor-forums only We should ALL be able to hate on them. :)
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: roger ramjet on February 04, 2013, 02:55 am
this faggot 1stepahead scammed another seller i know got 2 btc from him guy was a new seller and didnt know how to look back to see if they had done business LOL he did the same shit called him a dog and threatened him and said he had caused him all this hurt from not gettin his order..............threatened to fuck his rep and shit and ol matey bein new couldnt risk that
its funny the wankers that are around
what a fuckin dropkick
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: anonymart on February 04, 2013, 03:41 am
Look,

He has no proof that he bought something from you, it sounds like he is trying to scam you. It is not your fault he let his own transaction autofinalize if it is actually true he did place an order but the fact that you cant find any tracking from him or anything in the transaction history from him makes him look bad, sounds like a scammer who is addicted and trying to get free product.

If an order is not in transit, or in transaction history and I can't find any feedback saying finalize early from customer anywhere nor find any tracking number from them then I would treat situation politely but pointing out that I cant ship out something just bc he is saying he ordered from me.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: zerik on February 04, 2013, 05:34 am
Hate to hear that a vendor fell for the scam. Good thing you didn't fall for it.
Even if it were for real he let it auto finalize. More than enough time for a buyer to to file a not revived complaint.

Scam buyers hurt the site as much as vendors. We will all send him negative energy.

I wouldn't sweat it. But understand your frustration. No one wants to be harassed or face blackmail.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: Vegas on February 10, 2013, 02:00 am
Say how sorry you are and request his address for a re-ship...... ;)
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: MaRyLaMb on February 10, 2013, 02:12 am
I know this is serious, but I can't get past reading those threats!  Do people really talk that way? 1stepahead needs to go back to first grade ::)
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: IceIceIce on March 16, 2013, 03:33 am
Say how sorry you are and request his address for a re-ship...... ;)

I got PM from 1stepahead yesterday, my vendor page has just been opened yesterday but he claimed that he still have not receive his 8ball after 2months, which, extremely funny for me as I was not even a vendor yet til yesterday  ::)

He spammed my mailbox like no others. Then I apologized to him and promised him I will arrange for a re-ship for him on Monday. He even asked for a half 8ball as a compensation for the delay lol. Fortunately, he gave me his address in the end haha. It might be a fake one tho, but who knows since he asked me for tracking number of the shipment, so it can also be his real address.

Would like to upload image as evidence of what i just said, but still dont know how to...

Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: technopium on March 16, 2013, 03:51 am

I got PM from 1steapahead yesterday, my vendor page has just been opened yesterday but he claimed that he still have not receive his 8ball after 2months, which, extremely funny for me as I was not even a vendor yet til yesterday  ::)

He spammed my mailbox like no others. Then I apologized to him and promised him I will arrange for a re-ship for him on Monday. He even asked for a half 8ball as a compensation for the delay lol. Fortunately, he gave me his address in the end haha. It might be a fake one tho, but who knows since he asked me for tracking number of the shipment, so it can also be his real address.

Would like to upload image as evidence of what i just said, but still dont know how to...
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Ice- you should be able to use the 'attachments and other options' link under the dialog box and to the left, when you reply to a message.  Or you could use the Onion image loader, to post a pic.  Sometimes they have issues, but the image needs to be hosted and then you post a link to it. 


...Like Blargh and others have mentioned, this was such a LAME and HALF-WITTED attempt at scamming; I doubt I would have even wasted MY TIME replying to him if I was a vendor.  His arguments, excuses and MOST IMPORTANTLY evidence are GHOSTLY (ie not there and totally unbelievable).

Just ignore the little fuck or say SR ADMIN is now assissting and DreadPirate needs his SSN, Address, Tele #; and copy of his DL to get this all straightened out. 

I can't believe there are some vendors falling for this????? :o
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: Fallkniven on March 16, 2013, 09:58 pm
post the address he gave you, we'll go round and say hello with a baseball bat ;)
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: Trappy on March 16, 2013, 11:42 pm
Stop giving the fucker attention and he might leave you alone. Junkies don't have the best attention-spans.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: IceIceIce on March 17, 2013, 03:34 am
post the address he gave you, we'll go round and say hello with a baseball bat ;)

I would really love to post the whole conversation between 1stepahead and I, too bad that the "Attachments and other options" and Onion Image Uploader dont work for me. First it says the upload folder is full, and the latter is down according to fellow SR forum members.

The latest update is that he just gave me his phone number, because he is too desperate in receiving the product and so would like me to text him the tracking number lol.

I will see what I can do to upload the screenshot to other working onion image hosting.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: IceIceIce on March 17, 2013, 03:37 am
Stop giving the fucker attention and he might leave you alone. Junkies don't have the best attention-spans.

Hello brother, nah I am not giving the fucker any sort of attention, he spammed me since day 1 of me becoming a vendor, and I am seriously got annoyed by this, I am just trying to do what Vegas said, and share this funny thing with all of you.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: LokeToke on March 17, 2013, 10:48 am
What are you waiting for LoL please post his address & phone number in here ASAP time to have some fun. As for the conversation, just post the screenshots on a clearnet website like imageshack or something, doesn't really matter since we'll all be visiting it threw TOR anyway :)
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: Sukey on March 17, 2013, 11:39 am
What are you waiting for LoL please post his address & phone number in here ASAP time to have some fun. As for the conversation, just post the screenshots on a clearnet website like imageshack or something, doesn't really matter since we'll all be visiting it threw TOR anyway :)

Ok here we go:

-- edited out ---

Hah, that looks like one of the scambuyers I get once in a while. I am thinking of something rather less harsh than doing that, though and doing a reverse or something. Sending a box of dog diahrea to his doorstep or something. With the instruction for the postman to throw it through the fucking window and into the living room. Poop and glass everywhere!

Edit: Who the fuck gave him such a nice house? If he can't afford ice on the road, then how could he have ever afforded that! But anyway, more glass to throw through... might have to send 4 packages!
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: IceIceIce on March 17, 2013, 11:53 am
Hah, that looks like one of the scambuyers I get once in a while. I am thinking of something rather less harsh than doing that, though and doing a reverse or something. Sending a box of dog diahrea to his doorstep or something. With the instruction for the postman to throw it through the fucking window and into the living room. Poop and glass everywhere!

Edit: Who the fuck gave him such a nice house? If he can't afford ice on the road, then how could he have ever afforded that! But anyway, more glass to throw through... might have to send 4 packages!

I am actually wondering about the same thing, the address he provided might be belong to someone he hates? like his workplace boss, colleague, friend or enemy? will it be just a strategy used by him by scamming people and raise anger of the victim then the real owner of the address and phone number will face the consequences? too many doubts yo.

he could also be staying at the house, who knows he might be a school kid without money and staying with parents, but still want to smoke meth lol  ;D
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: 1mIcedout on March 17, 2013, 12:25 pm
Oh dear...  This dude is one dumb piece of shit...
I would not be surprised at all if it is his actual physical address..

His phone number works and young guy on answer machine says his name in the message..

Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: roger ramjet on May 02, 2013, 03:47 am
they guy is a complete fuck wit but he got ol matey so it works sometimes
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: dryice on May 02, 2013, 12:50 pm
This fuck tried to scam me aswell. Fuck the cunt we should send him 1kg of chems fully labeled with silkroad and the drug name from china. That will fix his face.
lol
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: happertand on May 02, 2013, 02:43 pm
He is threatening to come on the forums to tarnish my rep unless I give him his product or money back.

You are either dumb, or actually did scam a few people and are just prepping for the forum backlash. I mean, come on, who gives a fuck about someone trying to get free drugs from you. Ignore it and move on.

You're very rude. Where is your solidarity/manners?
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: Tessellated on May 02, 2013, 05:06 pm
I get this all the time. People target busy vendors claiming to have made an order when they did not. They are looking for refunds or freebies.

If they cannot product a transaction number then don't believe them.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: scout on May 02, 2013, 09:17 pm
DO NOT POST PEOPLE'S ADDRESSES AND PERSONAL INFORMATION HERE.  That is absolutely not okay.  Even if someone is an asshole or a scammer, you DO NOT post their info!
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: medicalcannibas420 on May 02, 2013, 09:32 pm
Hello,

Sorry for your trouble.....I have had 3 people try and scam me over the last 2 months....very similar to what happened to you.



He is threatening to come on the forums to tarnish my rep unless I give him his product or money back.
Title: Re: Bad attempt at scamming by buyer? - "1stepahead"
Post by: JoeyGPesci007 on May 02, 2013, 09:49 pm
Hello,

Sorry for your trouble.....I have had 3 people try and scam me over the last 2 months....very similar to what happened to you.



He is threatening to come on the forums to tarnish my rep unless I give him his product or money back.

And you feel the need to bring this up in a 4 month old thread, in no way pertaining to any of your transactions for what reason exactly? Also, I told you I'd troll any future posts of yours that implied that I at any time attempted to scam you.

Trolololo.