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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: thetopshelf on January 02, 2013, 08:04 pm
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Hi I am making a review thread for my selling account.
Please post your experiences below.
I hope to have satisfied all customers.
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Glad to see your post asking for feedback.
I just sent you a message about your Avidekel.
How would you feel about me placing an order and having it lab tested? If it's legit Avidekel I'll be glad to report back and vouch for you here.
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I hope you do well. That is a nice sale you have going on. That C02 oil, is the lowest price I've seen.
Best of luck!
I hope you don't mind, I bought all the chews. Was thinking about it, then you put them on sale. Now it doesn't matter what kind I get ;)
Good reviews are starting to come in. :)
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Status update:
- Placed an order yesterday for 1/4 ounce of Avidekel, priority shipping.
- As of now order is not yet marked in transit. First test is to see how fast it ships.
I did ask when it would ship and the answer was "shipped when placed in hand buds", but I'm not sure what that means.
Will update again when it ships.
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Order status update:
1/9 - Placed an order yesterday for 1/4 ounce of Avidekel, priority shipping.
1/10 - Order not yet marked in transit. First test is to see how fast it ships.
1/11 - Order now marked in transit
Coming updates on when it arrives, analyzing quality, and testing.
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Thanks The Top Shelf.
Enjoying my Cheeba Chews - Indica. I love these things. Still get 1/3 one to go 8)
Delivery was fast. Packaging was very good.
Still have to report on C02 Oil. Might be a while, cause I'm toasted, and don't feel like working ;)
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Received my super lemon haze from Top shelf on Friday and it was DANK
Fast shipping, Discreet packaging. The package was by no means suspicious.
The weed was DANK. It smelled AMAZING. SO good, i wish my whole house could smell Top Shelf's Super Lemon Haze. It was truly amazing. The high was great Very euphoric and Very energetic. I destroyed my grandma in a game of scrabble after smoking a bowl of this. A creative cerebral high. Loved the bud.
Overall 5/5 thanks TopShelf You the man!!!
-asweet 8)
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After a little confusion on my first order Top Shelf reached out to me to make it right and make it right he did. A lovely nugget arrived in my box yesterday. Double sealed in a Priority Box, the weed was fantastic! The strain I believe was GDP and while it wasn't really purple it was a nice green nugget with an amazing abundance of orange hairs and trichomes. Very satisfying smoke and I appreciate Top Shelf reaching out to me to make it right!
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I just received the oils in the mail, and I'm impressed. Great vendor with fast shipping
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The Super Lemon Haze was a great transaction all around. Super stealthy shipping, good communication, quick delivery, generous quantity, and a great high. What more could you ask for?
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I tried the C02 oil this weekend. The oil was amber, but cloudy. I try to heat it and purge the bubbles but it never went fully clear.
The oil was a little thin, but normal for C02. A little leaked from my cart. Had a strange but familiar floral taste. I remember the first time I tried C02 oil, I wondered what this taste was.
I have stronger oils, but it wasn't bad either. This oil was a lot cheaper than other C02 oils, but not as clear, or as strong.
Considering how many oils have have tried this rates in the middle.
I would like to see reviews from more experienced forum members? Good to see his rating moving up.
Cheeba Chews are $16 this week. ;)
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The Top Shelf is top notch in my book. My order was shipped super quick, and the packaging/stealth was excellent. I ordered 3 grams, and although I don't own a scale, I'm sure an extra .5 to 1 gram was added. This was a fantastic sale price but even at the current prices, it would be a good deal. The bud is good and strong, and definitely gives a nice body high like other Indicas I've tried.
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Order status update:
1/9 - Placed an order yesterday for 1/4 ounce of Avidekel, priority shipping.
1/10 - Order not yet marked in transit. First test is to see how fast it ships.
1/11 - Order now marked in transit
1/14 - Order received
So I can report my experience with TopShelf was legit. Good packaging, not too long to arrive, and product seems good.
He's still a a probationary period, but so far so good. I'm going to place a larger order and possibly lab test it myself this time to verify the quality. Subjective testing wss positive, but you never really know until it comes back from the lab.
Keep up the good work man -
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Picked up some more Cheeba Chews. Service was good. Delivery quick, packaging was excellent.
I see the price floating higher so get them while you can ;)
TTS sen t me two samples. I wondered what SLH was. I tried before I check. Wow what strain is this?
Super Lemon Haze, a strain I have been looking for;) Uni wants Lemon Haze. What makes this super? I love the buzz.
I haven't tried the CBD weed sample yet. I would like to get high CBD in trim , or shake to make edibles.
TTS ratings have risen to 97%, nice job, TTS.
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I destroyed my grandma in a game of scrabble after smoking a bowl of this. A creative cerebral high. Loved the bud.
This made me laugh out loud.
+1 to you!
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Hey Uni,
I' m pretty sure SLH is Lemon Skunk x Super Silver Haze.
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Thanks CH, I did smell some skunk in there. The buzz was great.
I think I pretty much any hybrid with a lemon smell.
I had the CBD weed this weekend. Interesting but not something I would buy to get high with. It has an interesting effect. I swaer everytime I smoke some CBD I get the munchies. Food seems to taste really good.
The C02 oil shouldn't be under rated. Nice floral taste.
Waiting for the restocking of the cheeba chews. Those I like the best 8)
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Waiting for the restocking of the cheeba chews. Those I like the best 8)
Are these legit? I was told even the quads were on the weaker side for edibles.
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Waiting for the restocking of the cheeba chews. Those I like the best 8)
Are these legit? I was told even the quads were on the weaker side for edibles.
I must disagree. Yes they are legit. A quad dose is 4 doses. One candy is good for hours. It's make with hash oil.
I gave a few to friends, and they agree. Don't eat a whole one at once. I can make most of the day off one candy, two at most.
I haven't had an edible that was stronger, nor would I want one. It's nice to break a little piece off, and medicate.
But alias The Top Shelf is all out. :'(
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The Cheeba Chews are back in stock! Yummy!
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The Cheeba Chews are back in stock! Yummy!
So you will have a portion of a candy every so often throughout the day?
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The Cheeba Chews are back in stock! Yummy!
So you will have a portion of a candy every so often throughout the day?
Yes, there is a certain way to unravel the tin foil to reuse the wrapper.
I have a quarter about every 2 hours.
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Yes, there is a certain way to unravel the tin foil to reuse the wrapper.
I have a quarter about every 2 hours.
Thanks, bud. Should have kept this in PM and not derailed the thread.
Sorry TheTopShelf!
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Yes, there is a certain way to unravel the tin foil to reuse the wrapper.
I have a quarter about every 2 hours.
Thanks, bud. Should have kept this in PM and not derailed the thread.
Sorry TheTopShelf!
I think you did the vendor a service. He has the best price on the road.You have to go to CO to get them cheaper.
Last I read they run 12-14 bucks.
These really are a great edible. Come, and get them. ;)
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Just ordered 1 cheeba each for me and a friend, can't wait for them to arrive. Will post back with a nice review upon arrival.
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I already posted a positive review in this thread for TopShelf, props to him on that.
I've now just placed a larger order, a full ounce of Avidekel and so far he has been great to work with.
I'll track this order here again, hopefully it will be another great experience.
Order status update:
2/1 - Placed an order 1 ounce of Avidekel, waiting for order to be marked "In Transit"
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Larger order status update:
2/1 - Placed an order 1 ounce of Avidekel, waiting for order to be marked "In Transit"
2/4 - Order marked "In Transit"
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Larger order status update:
2/1 - Placed an order 1 ounce of Avidekel, waiting for order to be marked "In Transit"
2/4 - Order marked "In Transit"
2/7 - Order received, triple vacuum packed, 5 star quality.
So thats one more good step in building trust...
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Ordered a Cheebachew about a week back, took about 6 days to get here but was nicely packaged.
I unwrapped it, chilled it and cut it into 8ths with a knife. My courtesan and I each ate an 8th and were fairly pleased with the results.
Will be splitting the rest in a few days.
Nice product though, very effective.
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Ordered a Cheebachew about a week back, took about 6 days to get here but was nicely packaged.
I unwrapped it, chilled it and cut it into 8ths with a knife. My courtesan and I each ate an 8th and were fairly pleased with the results.
Will be splitting the rest in a few days.
Nice product though, very effective.
An 8th? I wish I had a tolerance that low, you lucky person ;)
Even my brother eats a 4th.
I have to start with a half, and work to the other half.
3 weeks later I can eat the whole thing. Edibles seem to make my tolerance rise quickly. Hash oils don't help either, but it's cool.
Not much talk about the CBD products, but I did enjoy trying the CBD weed. I now try to mix my oils with CBD to clip the paranoia.
If you are sick, or getting chemo, I highly recommend trying CBD. Makes food taste great. By itself, not a great high, but plenty of other benefits.
I only wish it didn't cost as much as high THC products. Given a choice, I'll pick THC over CBD, because I'm human. I like getting high. 8)
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Any requests for thc infused products?
I hope everyone has seen the $5 edibles I have listed. http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c5ae0115c8
New prices for bud up:)
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Ordered two cheeba chews. There was an issue with shipping and TTS reshipped the incorrect order to correct it. Good transaction and would highly recommend him.
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I ordered super lemon and it's very good
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Hi my menu has expanded.
Cannabis- 95/7G 185/14G 350/OZ
"Purple God Bud" %100 purple
"Super Lemon Haze" Cannabis cup winner
"Avidekel" 18 percent CBD bud
"Cheese" Dank indica
"Querkle" The frosty fruity nugs
Edibles-
Cheeba Chews 70mg THC $24
XL Cheeba Chews 112mg $30
Keef Cola 100mg THC $35
Jolly Ranchers 35mg THC $7
Concentrates-
Honeycomb BHO
Shatter BHO
Solventless Micron Hash
Co2 Honey Oil
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Getting myself the micro G pen and going to try out some of your shatter and wax while I have some coins..
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Hi guys anyone else recieve? got over 200 orders shipped
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Got the super lemon haze, It is fiiiiire. Also got the shatter. I am real new with concentrates, tho the shatter is not as much of a chunk as i thought it would be.. verrrrry gooey. eager to tackle that learning curve when/if my vape pen ever gets here. I predict that I will be making a sticky mess haha. All around I am very pleased. Shipping was fast and quality is legit.
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Can anyone post a link to this Vendor's seller page? It is not in his signature, I can't find it in this thread, and I had no luck searching his name on the main site. Any help please?
Also, to the vendor, you should really include the link in your sig.
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/89f00130a5
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I hate cheebachews. They're too weak, I'll take cookies any day of the week.
Can someone please post some pictures of the bud?? I'm curious about this vendor.
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I hate cheebachews. They're too weak, I'll take cookies any day of the week.
Can someone please post some pictures of the bud?? I'm curious about this vendor.
yeah someone post photos of the tricomb covered indoor nugs i sell please
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I hate cheebachews. They're too weak, I'll take cookies any day of the week.
Can someone please post some pictures of the bud?? I'm curious about this vendor.
yeah someone post photos of the tricomb covered indoor nugs i sell please
I might have to order from you so I can do just that!
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TheTopShelf,
I believe there is a pretty significant inconsistency in you're Avidekel listing. Maybe just a typo but I wanted to make others aware until you get a chance to fix it!
Mandatory FE on a misrepresented product stinks. I trust you'll make it right though by refunding me and fixing the wording. It's quite subtle and I'd hate to see any other customers misled, even if though I know you wouldn't have intentionally done something like that!
If it's not Avidekel, what is it? Why was FE not required with the last genuine avidekel batch?
Looking forward to getting this fixed up asap
-lebotbahn
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The Fe thing is sketchy at best.
I guess the vendor forgets from were he began? I would strongly advise you NOT to FE. >:(
Others have complained about him canceling orders, and demanding FE. That buyer had very good stats. That's pretty shady.
TTS stats have been good for a short time.
Getting tired of this FE game. ???
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Everyone should stay away from this vendor for the time being.
I checked his listing after reading the last couple of posts and it's very reminiscent of The Farmacy's FE scam.
Like The Farmacy, when you look at TTS's listing it says something like "FE for this listing" which basically implies FE for this particular listing only (or for a few). But when you look at the rest of his offerings they all require FE (except the CO2 oil which hasn't had a sale in over a month). This is eerily similar to Farmacy's scam.
And to make it worse, he's established a behavior of occasional late shipping times so he can possibly string along all those who have FE when they don't receive their orders in the time expected.
Even if I'm wrong, I won't apologize to TTS for this post. His decision to require FE on all his listings is enough to warrant suspicion, and the FE requirement itself is just plain fucked.
For the sake of those that finalized early, I hope I am wrong.
EDIT:
I just saw on his vendor page that he's apologizing for the FE requirement due to cash flow problems. At least he's being more straight forward about it than I initially thought but it's still a terrible way to do business here.
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It's always some excuse. He had major cash flow problems just a few months back.
I was thinking about The Farmacy as well.
I have a serious problem when a buyer tells me they place an order, and TTS cancelled, and then re-listed for FE. Sounds sketchy to me.
He maybe having problems, but many have been burned by trusting trusted vendors. Just because you met the SR requirements for FE, doesn't mean you should.
BTW at the rate BTC is rising how the fuck could he have money problems? A lot of us are enjoying free drugs.
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Uni please inbox me some cashout methods.
My current methods cannot process the amount of coins I have to cash out.
This is why I currently require FE.
I will lift the FE when things get back to normal.
Alot of orders finalize super late and I cnat keep waiting.
I hedge my coins against the USD and not in BTC as I don't enjoy volatility.
You will see all the orders that FE come back with great reviews.
My account is 7 months old, older than the vendor you mentioned, so timeline is completely wrong.
Also my account is 7 months old with a 99, I intend to keep it as I make more selling than I could if I scammed.
Further: Dont like FE? DONT FE its that simple, thanks and have a good day.
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Thank you TTS for promptly refunding my order even though I had finalized prior to that request.
That said, you still have not answered my question posed both here in this thread and in private.
What strain is it? STRAINS
Sour Tsunami
Harlequin
Omrita Rx3
Jamaican Lion
Cannatonic
Juanita la Lagrimosa
Misty
Good Medicine
Maz's Cheese
TB x OGK
OG Afghani
Jamaican Skunk
Atomic Jam
Downtown Diesel
Cotton Candy x Diesel
Sugaree x Blue Diesel
SFV
R-4
Bubblegum Kush
Intensive Care OG Kush
Kushage
Soma A+
Stinky Purple
Poison OG
Granny Durkel
Wu#1
Phenom Phen
Purple Diesel
Silver Dragon
Monkey Balls
F5 Manawell
Sweet SF x OG
Black Queen
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You will see all the orders that FE come back with great reviews.
You never sent me the tracking info for that package that never made it or offered to resolve the situation in any way. Then you decided to stop responding.
I would not advise ordering from this vendor. They were very bad at communicating with me about the problem, had constant excuses and delays, and never resolved the order, leaving me scammed in the end.
Edit 4/9: Sent a PM, will amend with further updates.
Edit 4/11: Still waiting on a response.
Edit 4/12: Still no response.
Edit 4/13: Got a 25% refund with no proof of delivery after 3 weeks of hassling the vendor.
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You will see all the orders that FE come back with great reviews.
You never sent me the tracking info for that package that never made it or offered to resolve the situation in any way. Then you decided to stop responding.
I would not advise ordering from this vendor. They were very bad at communicating with me about the problem, had constant excuses and delays, and never resolved the order, leaving me scammed in the end.
Its not my intention to scam, inbox me some information, (specific suburb), and I will try to retrieve the DCN, If I cant then full refund, if I can still %25 refund.
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I had a bad experience with this vendor. I tried to order a few grams but they didn't ship and I didn't hear anything after a few days. I sent two messages and he or she finally responded with just "what".
::)
Very immature, very bad experience. Glad it was cancelled, going to shop elsewhere.
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3 days since your offer of looking up the tracking or giving me a refund and no response whatsoever by the vendor. What could be the hold up?
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3 days since your offer of looking up the tracking or giving me a refund and no response whatsoever by the vendor. What could be the hold up?
Sorry sorry sorry, log back into your account and you will smile.
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I bought some really good bud from you tts but your organization is piss poor. Fuck waiting around 2 weeks for domestic weed delivery. Hope you get your shit sorted out as the product was very good.
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You ran me around for 3 weeks, 'forgot' to respond multiple times, stopped responding at all on SR, and gave me a 25% refund without any of the tracking proof. That's terrible communication and service. Enjoy your free money.
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Hi, been getting alot of messages regarding FE requirements.
So I have decided to make one strain available right now in escrow, for your 4/20 needs.
That strain is "Trainwreck"
This is a new strain and will meet or exceed your expectations of my products.
site is currently down for maintenance, ignore the "FE required" until I can get in to edit it.
There is a limited amount available.
Also note: 4/20 delivery is also guaranteed until Wednesday.
The Top Shelf
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Here is my 4/20 "SALE"
Offering two strains with full escrow and guaranteed 4/20 delivery.
"Trainwreck" and "Super Lemon Haze"
FE is not required for these strains.
Delivery is guaranteed by 4/20 this Saturday.
Quarters start at $108
SLH> http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9cff0584d6
TrainW> http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e08815d452
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I recently got an order from TTS, and his bud is great and very high quality.
But I was hoping someone wou;d be able to tell me if his concentrates are any good?
He has shatter and honeycomb wax, which sounds great but i've gotten some real BS off the SR 'concentrates' section before.
So, The Top Shelf's concentrate are they good? please reply if you've gotten some and which you would prefer on a TI nail.
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I am joining DPR's impromptu 4/27 sale!
All concentrates on sale!
CO2 is $8 off (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/f981a0f53a)
Shatter is $7 off (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/7271396622)
Wax is $6 off (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/2b476bbbe6)
Sale valid until midnight on the 27th the same time frame as dpr's sale suggestions.
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Just bought some of TTS's different BHO varieties.
I tried them both in a atmos (handheld wax vaporizer, like a electric cigarette) and on a titanium 'nail'
Smell:
Wax- Has a very strong and pungent smell, like the buds it was made from.
Shatter- Had less smell but smelled sweet
Taste:
Wax- Tasted very good in the atmos, was smooth in small amounts off the titanium nail
Shatter- Very good and long lasting in the atmos, great and super strong hitting on the nail.
High-
Wax- Got me very high in large amounts off the nail, crazy high actually a place I haven't been recently, all with much of the gram left.
Shatter- This gave me a racy 'sativa' high and was likely the bud that was used to make it was sativa, this is a crazy strong concentrate, not for noobs.
Next I will be trying his CO2 that he sells.
Thanks TOP SHELF ALL AROUND
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Hi SR has been down a whileso here is my link to an alternate marketplace to purchase my products.
[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion/account/view/the_top_shelf
Check on my new listing for $250 loans with %20 interest and a free quarter ounce.
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So this guy, this vendor right here, so appropriately called "The Top Shelf" (because he is) I is deserving of recognition for his INCREDI-FUCKIN-BLE growing skills, incredible product, and attitude.
See, I'm not much of a smoker. There's a slim list of strains I'm capable of enjoying without undesireable paranoia and utter uselessness.
But my dad, lot's of old man issues, crippling arthritis pain and real medical issues. He's embraced the whole medical weed thing fully and it's provided him alot of pain relief, etc. It's nice to see that and it's helped us connect a bit more sharing strains and exchanging shit, discussing our favs and stuff.
That said, he learned about Hight CBD/low THC weed recently. He asked me about it, told him I was aware of it, tried to source it localally without much luck, and later tried SR.
Enter The Top Shelf. The only vendor (at the time) offering not only high CBD weed, but what he claimed was "Avidekel", a strain that was 18-20% CBD, 0-1.5 THC.
Unfortunately he sold out before I was able to put an order in (this was right before SR was down for a week early March).
I waited a few weeks for him to restock. Eventually he did.
So I pulled the trigger, even FE. I took a closer look at the listing and immediately had a beef with the wording. It had sinced changed a bit and I felt like TTS was being a bit disengenuine.
See, there are many "high CBD" strains. Very few are super low THC. Avideckel was practially 0 THC. That's what I was paying for. To make a long story short, it appeared that he was offering a non-specified high cbd strain which and it appeared that this strain was no longer avidekel.
So I asked for a refund and TPS granted me a refund almost instantly (keep in mind I'd already FE...already speaks volumes).
So I ordered some other non-weed stuff instead and explained to my dad how things had changed but I'd keep an eye peeled for him.
Fast forward a week. I get two packs in the mail. One expected, one not.
Freaked me out a bit because I knew it had to be an SR pack but I had NO CLUE what it could be or who it was from, or what was in it.
I'll cut to the chase now and tell you it was from TPS. Apparantly by mistake after further contact. But he was chill as one could be and appeared to give zero shits. If the coin was still there I'd have paid the man. If I'm ever up I will but I can tell you this--- he will have a repeat customer.
So I run this pack over to my dad who was skeptical of ordering drugs by mail. I wanted him to see for himself just how PROFESSIONAL some of these vendors operate.
I had him open it. No more doubts in his mind, at least for TPS.
I order alot of nefarious substances. Lots. And I've seen some top notch packaging. But TPS? OMG.
Not only was it labled like a pro on the exterior, but you'd have no clue this package contained perhaps the dankest looking, most CURED TO ABSOLUTE PERFECTION nug I've ever laid eyes on. And I know MANY MANY excellent growers. Neither of us have ever seen a nug cured to such PERFECTION, nor as perfectly trimmmed. Dazzling trichomes just pouring out its low THC ass. Absolutely rediculous. And double foil (actually tripple iirc) sealed tighter than a nun. Perfect and UNCOMPRESSED.
The best smoke I've ever had in my life. EVER. Which I honestly thought would never be topped.
My dad? 10 minutes post smoke:
"I haven't been able to clench my fists fully without pain for at least 3 years. This is absolutely UNREAL. I cannot believe this. This is a miracle."
True words. The man wept a couple tears of joy. I shit you not.
Thank you TTS. He's using it sparingly for appropriate times (functional hours/events, the reason he sought it to begin with) along with the rest of his artillary
I include this last part for people who aren't fans of being stoned and may be curious about high CBD/low THC.
Me? Fortunately i don't suffer from chronic pain but he pinched me off a bit and I've enjoyed immensely. As I said before, I'm not a big fan of weed (i normally have a smoke if I can't sleep, not social at all). With this? I LOVE the effect it has on me. It actually makes me social. It may sound like a load of shit, but it's has what I can best compare to as a stimulant-like effect on me. The only downside is that tolerance to it's effects appear to accumulate rapidly. My dad has since commented the same regarding tolerance; hence his sparing useage and mix/matching rather than smoking this exclusively for pain, and/or saving it for paticularly painful evenings.
So that's my 2cents. Longwinded, yes, but hopefully useful to anyone curious about this stuff.
Wether he's offering true Avideckel or some other high cbd/low thc strain--- I can say that this stuff is 100% legit and that you should not hestitate in testing it out.
Especially for those of you suffering chronic pain who want relief without the high. This stuff is 100% functional and the best part is that it does provide a very enjoyable, but non-stoning completely functional buzz in addition to it's amazing medicinal properties.
Thank you once again TTS. Keep being awesome, and please keep these types of strains available. It's so rewarding to see effects first hand, I hope you feel that same joy in offering this to folks who need it. I look forward to future transactions and hope there are many more to come from others.
All that said, let this not be understated: GODDAMN THIS GUY KNOWS HOW TO GROW. CURE LIKE NO OTHER. And ship like a dog-proof pro.
Have no hesitations people.
All the best,
LBB
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Thanks for the review of my buds.
Also to anyone wondering about orders placed before the road went down, your orders will be sent BUT not as fast as I hoped.
I am posting this message because around now is when I'd have alot of messages in my inbox asking me "wheres my stuff"
SR downtime has been causing a delay in the processing time, that being said I am hoping to get all order to customers by the end of the week.
Fell free to message me on the forums.
Fell free to place new orders on atlantis.
Thanks
The Top Shelf
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=151811.0
Please vote for me on this thread ^^^^
Thanks :)
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Probably about to pull the order on a half lb of the discount from TTS hope I am not disappointed, will update!
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I would of pulled 2lbs from the discount indoor, but I am a bit hesitant with this.
I would be a first customer for TS, so forgive me if I sound weary, but there is a whole lot of FE going on right now.
it would be a great time to bail with a lot of coins. Not saying this is anyting that is going to happen, but I took a risk with a qp.
If it works out, TS got a good customer and vocal seller for him!!
The prices seem a bit too good at the moment. I jumped in, but I hate seeing all those FE;s. Sorry TS, until I get my product, I would urge everyone else to take a step back, and wait for all these FE's to come through to completion!!!
Hope that makes sense, and please understand, my words are only for the protection of others. I mean no ill will, and I hope TS, even with his great raitings, pulls though!!
Peace out brothas and sistas!!
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Pictures would be greatly appreciated. Somebody got some of TTS nugs?
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Pictures would be greatly appreciated. Somebody got some of TTS nugs?
Which strain?
If my Super Lemon Haze didn't look as pictured,
well then I would have a whole lot of shitty feedback
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I'm excited to try the honeycomb wax and his shatter !! I absolutely hate to FE these days but I gave him a chance, I will update once received and smoked thoroughly !
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SpringSeed23 + White Out, I'm very interested in your results, keep us updated :)
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SpringSeed23 + White Out, I'm very interested in your results, keep us updated :)
Contact vendor: MagicBeats, he has receive my bulk(w/ fe too)
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Was just about to order a QP from him until I noticed its F/E only. Then I see almost his whole first page of reviews are FE. Usually its a bad sign when a vendor decides to starts making his listing FE only. Not saying he's setting up a hit and run, just saying to be aware. Hope he drops the requirement soon, I decided my first day on the road after reading all the threads of people getting screwed to NEVER FE.
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Was just about to order a QP from him until I noticed its F/E only. Then I see almost his whole first page of reviews are FE. Usually its a bad sign when a vendor decides to starts making his listing FE only. Not saying he's setting up a hit and run, just saying to be aware. Hope he drops the requirement soon, I decided my first day on the road after reading all the threads of people getting screwed to NEVER FE.
Yes,
I am also very curious how this is going turn out.
***5 pages of FE's that are all grams, and chews....... is def a red-flag...
I'ma hold of and watch this rodeo.
Waiting to hear back from Trusted Forum members, then jumping in to the water.
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Was just about to order a QP from him until I noticed its F/E only. Then I see almost his whole first page of reviews are FE. Usually its a bad sign when a vendor decides to starts making his listing FE only. Not saying he's setting up a hit and run, just saying to be aware. Hope he drops the requirement soon, I decided my first day on the road after reading all the threads of people getting screwed to NEVER FE.
Yes,
I am also very curious how this is going turn out.
***5 pages of FE's that are all grams, and chews....... is def a red-flag...
I'ma hold of and watch this rodeo.
Waiting to hear back from Trusted Forum members, then jumping in to the water.
Please look back into my feedback, I have had about half my products with fe required for the past 5 months!
The rush of FE's are because SR has been down for about a full week, and everyone is starting to place orders that they likely planned out a week ago.
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Was just about to order a QP from him until I noticed its F/E only. Then I see almost his whole first page of reviews are FE. Usually its a bad sign when a vendor decides to starts making his listing FE only. Not saying he's setting up a hit and run, just saying to be aware. Hope he drops the requirement soon, I decided my first day on the road after reading all the threads of people getting screwed to NEVER FE.
Yes,
I am also very curious how this is going turn out.
***5 pages of FE's that are all grams, and chews....... is def a red-flag...
I'ma hold of and watch this rodeo.
Waiting to hear back from Trusted Forum members, then jumping in to the water.
Please look back into my feedback, I have had about half my products with fe required for the past 5 months!
The rush of FE's are because SR has been down for about a full week, and everyone is starting to place orders that they likely planned out a week ago.
TopShelf-----I looked through all of your feedback before I ordered, as I rarely ever FE.
I took the chance, and that is fine....I have the ability to loose what I risked. I posted my comments about other people holding off until packages arrive, because there are some people on here that would get absolutley hurt by not getting their order.
You give no reason to show scam, but with the recent Chaos with SR, and the confusion in the marketplace, it is ripe for a vendor to go rouge and scam out.
I understand you want your coins in case SR goes down again, but there is a lot of FE going on, and that scares many of us who have seen all the shit on SR.
I just adivise caution to anyone moving forward until packs arrive----as I said, I am in on a qp, and hoping all goes well, I will be singing your praises!!!
Have patience with us TS, and we shall have it with you-------good transactions at these prices will put you on the top!!!
Lets just ride the silent wave right now, to make sure everything is beautiful!!!
Peace
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Was just about to order a QP from him until I noticed its F/E only. Then I see almost his whole first page of reviews are FE. Usually its a bad sign when a vendor decides to starts making his listing FE only. Not saying he's setting up a hit and run, just saying to be aware. Hope he drops the requirement soon, I decided my first day on the road after reading all the threads of people getting screwed to NEVER FE.
Yes,
I am also very curious how this is going turn out.
***5 pages of FE's that are all grams, and chews....... is def a red-flag...
I'ma hold of and watch this rodeo.
Waiting to hear back from Trusted Forum members, then jumping in to the water.
Please look back into my feedback, I have had about half my products with fe required for the past 5 months!
The rush of FE's are because SR has been down for about a full week, and everyone is starting to place orders that they likely planned out a week ago.
TopShelf-----I looked through all of your feedback before I ordered, as I rarely ever FE.
I took the chance, and that is fine....I have the ability to loose what I risked. I posted my comments about other people holding off until packages arrive, because there are some people on here that would get absolutley hurt by not getting their order.
You give no reason to show scam, but with the recent Chaos with SR, and the confusion in the marketplace, it is ripe for a vendor to go rouge and scam out.
I understand you want your coins in case SR goes down again, but there is a lot of FE going on, and that scares many of us who have seen all the shit on SR.
I just adivise caution to anyone moving forward until packs arrive----as I said, I am in on a qp, and hoping all goes well, I will be singing your praises!!!
Have patience with us TS, and we shall have it with you-------good transactions at these prices will put you on the top!!!
Lets just ride the silent wave right now, to make sure everything is beautiful!!!
Peace
I will be so happy to order, when you receive your pack.
Spring and many others, have been treading these waters for a long time.
We have seen many weed vendors go from top to bottom...
We are trying to prevent the same things from happening again to others
No harm done, Safety is #1.
SpringSeed can we get those pictures too, Please?
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So,
I juts received a message from a a member called TuggingOnSupermansCape,
saying to be cautious with TopShelf vendor.
He doesn't have 50 posts, and cant post in this thread.
So I copied and pasted, what he messaged to me.
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hey man, im stuck in sub 50 posts newbieville, but wanted to make you aware that 'the top shelf' has ripped off myself, and others, on Atlantis. He also threatened the atlantis admins with physical harm and said he would tell everyone it's a honeypot DEA service. You can view it all on atlantis's forum. if you dont trust my link, please search out the vendor discussion and feedback forum on atlantis.
http://atlmlxbk2mbupwgr.onion/index.php?topic=221.0
Here's the admins stating how this user was using multiple accounts, and trying to scam everyone. I lost $1000 to this psychotic douchebag.
http://atlmlxbk2mbupwgr.onion/index.php?topic=393.msg1644#msg1644
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Hey ecstasydude,
I have scammed 0 people on atlantis, I was locked out of my account and banned after making a post on the SR vendor-only forum
I am was unsure about atlantis and posted a purely spectating non-public post which got me banned, sucks for them now they have less real sellers
I was using multiple accounts to sell drugs on one and to sell moneypak exchange services on the other.
I didnt scam any moneypak buyers also, ask user 'greenware' he has processed several thousand dollar moneypaks with me.
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Christy Nugs is the gold standard of weed vendors. She does not ask for early finalization and even states that she does not want you to do it. Therefore, if the gold standard does not want early finalization then beware of any vendor who does.
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I got the same message TS.
Prove em wrong, and we are all happy.
But for now....... I would recommend no one ordering anything more until he lifts FE requirements, and or people start getting product!!!
TE you have plenty of money right now to do anything you want in the cannabis market. A lot of FE's, and your sitting pretty. Make this shit last, and prove that you are stand up vendor!!!
Please message me and let me know when I will be getting my pak, so as to calm the minds of customers eager to give you their money!!!!!
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Ok, a little backstory,
I have been vending on SR awhile(age on profile)
I recently(within the past 2 weeks) have had my listing(super lemon haze) get higher and higher on the front page of US cannabis listings, it is now in 7th place.
I realize this must be stepping on the toes of other vendors.
There are vendors with listings lower on the front page and lower feedback scores who also require FE, so I feel comfortable asking for FE as my reputation grants me that.
It is not a surprise to me posters are being inboxed in an attempt to cause the defamation of my character.
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Ok, a little backstory,
I have been vending on SR awhile(age on profile)
I recently(within the past 2 weeks) have had my listing(super lemon haze) get higher and higher on the front page of US cannabis listings, it is now in 7th place.
I realize this must be stepping on the toes of other vendors.
There are vendors with listings lower on the front page and lower feedback scores who also require FE, so I feel comfortable asking for FE as my reputation grants me that.
It is not a surprise to me posters are being inboxed in an attempt to cause the defamation of my character.
Yea but TS, no one on SR is selling lb of indoor for 2400lb. Your price hooked me, and I took a risk. So did a lot of other people.
Not trying to discredit you, as I have a order in:} But no cannabis vendor on SR has as much FE going on right now as you do. It worries us.
In a day or two---three----this should all be settled!!! Right:}
Be well, pull through, and your a hero!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Im not the lowest price, the price is just to compete with all the outdoor, it will be raised once people see I offer quality service speed and nugs.
If your looking for the cheapest thou, I was just reading about this new bulk vendor with 900$ half pounds, crazy shit lol, http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1dy5uq/bulk_ganja_anyone/
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This is exciting. When I'm done with "we got some for you", NOT. I'm in. $800 to waste, or get really buzzed. I love the SLH TS has. As a matter of fact I love just about everything he sells. You got my vote, but %100 FE, gets you taken off the Medical list. :(
It's too bad even if you are trying to do business, it follows Thefarmacy tactics to a tee. Nobody sells decent indoor at that price, even Norcal420hookup is higher, he also requires FE, for that price. You might try two listings. If I never dealt with you I'm not going to FE. If you drop your prices, and require FE, it's a warning sign to wait it out.
So are all your listing requiring FE? I see a 3/5 because you didn't have FE in the description.
On the CBD weed, you have larger listings? I know I should just PM you.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. The buyers need to have patience, and wait it out, but it might be gone;) Damn it.
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I am sure there are plenty of people already waiting it out as the looks the of feedback list, my hash should be here Saturday or Mon at the latest I was told as I paid for Priority shipping. I will let everyone know when / if it shows!
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I would really like to try the Super Lemon Haze, but there is no way in fucking hell I'll ever F/E especially with someone I don't have an established relationship with. Hope everyone gets their stuff, looks like the bomb. If he ever lifts his FE requirements I'm sure I'll give him a go.
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Hey Uni! CBD is back in stock!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ca3d2c68d6
I have ounces, QP's, and P's available of this innovative pure CBD marijuana.
Sorry about the FE, its fine if you don't want to order, if you don't want to FE, than don't order :) that simple.
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Sorry about the FE, its fine if you don't want to order, if you don't want to FE, than don't order :) that simple.
Never ordered from Top Shelf but with that statement alone I can say that this guy will turn into a scammer at some point in his SR career and every customer of his that gives in to his BULLSHIT FE policy is facilitating the next big SR scam. My 2 cents, bring on the negative karma.
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Sorry about the FE, its fine if you don't want to order, if you don't want to FE, than don't order :) that simple.
Never ordered from Top Shelf but with that statement alone I can say that this guy will turn into a scammer at some point in his SR career and every customer of his that gives in to his BULLSHIT FE policy is facilitating the next big SR scam. My 2 cents, bring on the negative karma.
Agreed 100 percent.
In regards to karma, I got negged just for trying to warn people to be careful. Some people just don't want to be informed I guess. Karma system is a joke.
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Sorry about the FE, its fine if you don't want to order, if you don't want to FE, than don't order :) that simple.
Never ordered from Top Shelf but with that statement alone I can say that this guy will turn into a scammer at some point in his SR career and every customer of his that gives in to his BULLSHIT FE policy is facilitating the next big SR scam. My 2 cents, bring on the negative karma.
Agreed 100 percent.
In regards to karma, I got negged just for trying to warn people to be careful. Some people just don't want to be informed I guess. Karma system is a joke.
FE is only a BULLSHIT policy for WHINY FUCKS who don't realize how SR works.
The best vendors with as many orders as me are all asking for FE, just look how much I am selling you cant even see 12 hours into my feedback as new ones keep coming in.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/89f00130a5
Obviously I think all the defamation is from vendor who aren't selling as much as I am so the post actually make me quite happy to see ;D ;D ;D ;D
Plain and simple, quit whining and fuck off my thread if you do not want to FE.
Please post in review thread to review my product/packaging NOT my policies, Thank You!
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Sorry about the FE, its fine if you don't want to order, if you don't want to FE, than don't order :) that simple.
Never ordered from Top Shelf but with that statement alone I can say that this guy will turn into a scammer at some point in his SR career and every customer of his that gives in to his BULLSHIT FE policy is facilitating the next big SR scam. My 2 cents, bring on the negative karma.
Agreed 100 percent.
In regards to karma, I got negged just for trying to warn people to be careful. Some people just don't want to be informed I guess. Karma system is a joke.
FE is only a BULLSHIT policy for WHINY FUCKS who don't realize how SR works.
The best vendors with as many orders as me are all asking for FE, just look how much I am selling you cant even see 12 hours into my feedback as new ones keep coming in.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/89f00130a5
Obviously I think all the defamation is from vendor who aren't selling as much as I am so the post actually make me quite happy to see ;D ;D ;D ;D
Plain and simple, quit whining and fuck off my thread if you do not want to FE.
Please post in review thread to review my product/packaging NOT my policies, Thank You!
Well that post kind of summed up all I needed to know about you. Didn't plan on posting in this thread anymore and was only keeping an eye on it to see if people got their stuff and if FE got lifted so I could place an order. After your previous well thought out, intelligent post, I would never order from you. So I'm off your thread, no worries, best of luck to you
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THIS THREAD IS FOR USER REVIEWS OF THE VENDOR 'THETOPSHELF's PRODUCTS, PACKAGING, AND SERVICES.
IT IS NOT FOR BASELESS SPECULATION, FUD, DEFAMATION OF MY REPUTATION, OR BITCHING ABOUT MY POLICIES, I HAVE BEEN TAKING 6 MONTHS TO BUILD UP A STELLAR REPUTATION, PLEASE POST ELSEWHERE ABOUT WHO YOU ARE OR ARE NOT BUYING FROM.
THERE IS NO NEED TO POST IN MY THREAD THAT YOUR NOT BUYING FROM ME, THAT IS NOT A REVIEW, IT ADDS NOTHING TO THE CONVERSATION, INFORMS READERS OF NOTHING NEW, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY CLOGS MY REVIEW THREAD WITH POSTS THAT ARE NOT REVIEWS.
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Sorry about the FE, its fine if you don't want to order, if you don't want to FE, than don't order :) that simple.
Never ordered from Top Shelf but with that statement alone I can say that this guy will turn into a scammer at some point in his SR career and every customer of his that gives in to his BULLSHIT FE policy is facilitating the next big SR scam. My 2 cents, bring on the negative karma.
Agreed 100 percent.
In regards to karma, I got negged just for trying to warn people to be careful. Some people just don't want to be informed I guess. Karma system is a joke.
FE is only a BULLSHIT policy for WHINY FUCKS who don't realize how SR works.
The best vendors with as many orders as me are all asking for FE, just look how much I am selling you cant even see 12 hours into my feedback as new ones keep coming in.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/89f00130a5
Obviously I think all the defamation is from vendor who aren't selling as much as I am so the post actually make me quite happy to see ;D ;D ;D ;D
Plain and simple, quit whining and fuck off my thread if you do not want to FE.
Please post in review thread to review my product/packaging NOT my policies, Thank You!
Well that post kind of summed up all I needed to know about you. Didn't plan on posting in this thread anymore and was only keeping an eye on it to see if people got their stuff and if FE got lifted so I could place an order. After your previous well thought out, intelligent post, I would never order from you. So I'm off your thread, no worries, best of luck to you
Or maybe this just sums up TTS' annoyance at all of the unjust negativity. I have read through all 45 pages of reviews before I placed an order with him. I placed it on Tuesday, May 7th. I did finalize early after telling myself I wouldn't do it and this time I am taking a huge risk. I just took a HUGE loss and if I lose on this... I'm dead broke and royally fucked, but after reading his reviews, I took a chance.
What I get from his reviews:
He didn't require FE, we don't know the loss that TTS took, we don't know what sort of loss he could take and survive. It looks like TTS has been struggling the last month to offer what he currently offers. It looks like TTS has gone through some trials and tribulations and has done everything possible to improve his customer service, improve shipping, improve customer satisfaction. He isn't forcing anyone to FE. He hasn't done ANYTHING to deserve all the negativity that has been directed at him. I get shit has happened in the past and that causes the older members of SR skeptical of a scam... I am not saying he is or will ever scam anyone or that he won't. I'm simply saying: At this time he has not done anything worthy of all the negativity that members have been throwing at him.
I will update as soon as the package arrives, hoping today. It was estimated by Saturday. I, as other members are waiting patiently for our orders... It's funny how all the negative is coming from members that have NEVER used him, never communicated with him, and know nothing of what his 6 month SR road has been like...
It's this simple. Some one of us have put our trust in something more. Everything is going to be okay rather he becomes a scammer or doesn't. IF he does scam, we'll learn a lesson, if he doesn't, we'll create a great business relationship... But until the scale tips one way or another, we should keep the negativity to a minimum. Not just for TTS, but for all vendors.. People will always be people. You have your worthless bottom feeders and then you have those that truly want to do what is right... Don't place judgement without obtaining the knowledge to make that judgement valid.
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He didn't require FE, we don't know the loss that TTS took, we don't know what sort of loss he could take and survive. It looks like TTS has been struggling the last month to offer what he currently offers. It looks like TTS has gone through some trials and tribulations and has done everything possible to improve his customer service, improve shipping, improve customer satisfaction. He isn't forcing anyone to FE. He hasn't done ANYTHING to deserve all the negativity that has been directed at him. I get shit has happened in the past and that causes the older members of SR skeptical of a scam... I am not saying he is or will ever scam anyone or that he won't. I'm simply saying: At this time he has not done anything worthy of all the negativity that members have been throwing at him.
I will update as soon as the package arrives, hoping today. It was estimated by Saturday. I, as other members are waiting patiently for our orders... It's funny how all the negative is coming from members that have NEVER used him, never communicated with him, and know nothing of what his 6 month SR road has been like...
I am against any vendor who requires FE and anyone who uses SR should be also. Let me tell you how this will work, TTS will send out product during the first few months while requiring FE. Things will be great, people will praise this vendor, and more people will be encouraged to order. Eventually, TTS gets popular, and over the course of a week he will make somewhere around 50k+ in FE money and think to himself "Oh shit... 50k? I could just start a new vendor account and cash the other 49.5k and start over again." and then, he scams us, and we bitch and complain and then we say something like "Man I knew I shouldn't have FE'd let this be a lesson to me".
I put my timeline on the end of July, but honestly the scam will probably happen sooner.
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My 2 cents:
I came across this guys listing for a qp for 600 today. Ya, nice price if it's decent bud. I wanna take a chance. So far this site, for me, has been all about taking chances, and usually winning. It took me all of 30 seconds to read up to the part where it said FE required. So, no surprises. I asked vender a question. Got reply in very short time. I then read this thread, peeps being skeptical ( good reason to be ), and then decided to purchase. Dude got at me quick about FE, I got back quick with order info. Dude got back quick again. So far, I've gotten no vibe indicating fraud or the like. So far, I am getting a good business vibe from TS. I own 2 companies, so I do know a thing or two about customer relations and business strategy, etc. I Fe'd with no concern or regret. This dude has more than 300 trans, with 99.2% + . Relax, and let dude send you your drugs for a fair price. I, for one, can't wait to get my first pack from this guy. Thanks TS
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My 2 cents:
I came across this guys listing for a qp for 600 today. Ya, nice price if it's decent bud. I wanna take a chance. So far this site, for me, has been all about taking chances, and usually winning. It took me all of 30 seconds to read up to the part where it said FE required. So, no surprises. I asked vender a question. Got reply in very short time. I then read this thread, peeps being skeptical ( good reason to be ), and then decided to purchase. Dude got at me quick about FE, I got back quick with order info. Dude got back quick again. So far, I've gotten no vibe indicating fraud or the like. So far, I am getting a good business vibe from TS. I own 2 companies, so I do know a thing or two about customer relations and business strategy, etc. I Fe'd with no concern or regret. This dude has more than 300 trans, with 99.2% + . Relax, and let dude send you your drugs for a fair price. I, for one, can't wait to get my first pack from this guy. Thanks TS
Yeah, this will work great for you guys while he builds trust you yeah you'll get cheap drugs. I hope you can spot when he decides to go rouge though. All I am saying is remove the FE requirement and it removes the possibility of him going rouge. Its one thing to REQUIRE FE and another to REQUEST FE for something like free shipping in return, like TGOD (a reputable vendor who asks for FE) does.
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I just want to encourage anyone who gets their packs to immediately review here. The quicker TTS gets the packs out, the quicker the reviews, the quicker all this hooplah dies down.
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I just want to encourage anyone who gets their packs to immediately review here. The quicker TTS gets the packs out, the quicker the reviews, the quicker all this hooplah dies down.
Actually, the "hooplah" won't die down ever unless he gets rid of his FE policy. Just because he makes good on his promises right now and sends out doesn't mean he will make good on them in 2 months when the FE money is far too much and tempting. Many vendors with "established 100% feedback and 10 months on the road" have done this before and judging by the maturity of TTS I would say he is more likely than anyone other vendor I can think of right now to pull this same scam.
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I just want to encourage anyone who gets their packs to immediately review here. The quicker TTS gets the packs out, the quicker the reviews, the quicker all this hooplah dies down.
Actually, the "hooplah" won't die down ever unless he gets rid of his FE policy. Just because he makes good on his promises right now and sends out doesn't mean he will make good on them in 2 months when the FE money is far too much and tempting. Many vendors with "established 100% feedback and 10 months on the road" have done this before and judging by the maturity of TTS I would say he is more likely than anyone other vendor I can think of right now to pull this same scam.
I had planned on waiting until I got my package to post again, so I could leave a real review, but after reading this, I had to post. I am in no way making any discriminating statements towards you HeatFan, but how can you presume to judge his maturity? Based off a few statements TTS made? You don't know TTS, you don't know at all what may be going on in his life. That doesn't give an excuse to respond in anger or annoyance, but if enough negativity is directed at even the calmest individual, that individual is going to eventually become irate in some manner. We're only human, we all make mistakes.
However, you are 100% right about the "hooplah". It may die down being directed at TTS, but it will always be a part of SR and directed at vendors that require FE. Bottom feeders have made sure of that. What they've done in the past and what they will do in the future. Unfortunately for those of us that truly try, there will always be bottom feeders that make life that much more difficult. :(
Being that I've been on both sides, I can understand why someone would require FE and on the same note, I thought I was 100% against FE, until I decided to take a risk with TTS. I will be the first to scream and bitch a fit if he does scam and I will accept my "I told you so" in peace, but until there is a legitimate reason, I will not direct negativity at anyone if I can help it. There is enough bullshit in the world without adding to it.
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I just want to encourage anyone who gets their packs to immediately review here. The quicker TTS gets the packs out, the quicker the reviews, the quicker all this hooplah dies down.
Actually, the "hooplah" won't die down ever unless he gets rid of his FE policy. Just because he makes good on his promises right now and sends out doesn't mean he will make good on them in 2 months when the FE money is far too much and tempting. Many vendors with "established 100% feedback and 10 months on the road" have done this before and judging by the maturity of TTS I would say he is more likely than anyone other vendor I can think of right now to pull this same scam.
Then why hasnt there been any 'hooplah' the past 6 months?
I have required FE for many of my items for the past 6 months, this is not new for me or my customers.
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In all honesty.......This thread should be completely fucking silent now, just waiting for a pin to drop!!! Or rather, a package dropped and reviewed.
TS------I have asked before, but did not get a response. When will these first orders start arriving? When will my order arrive?
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Multiple things:
1. I've been on the road since it started and you NEVER finalize early.
2. Christy nugs, thebudfather, mrhumboldt are three of my top vendors and NONE of them require finalization early. If the best on the road do not require finalization early--then why would I buy from anyone who required finalization early.
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In all honesty.......This thread should be completely fucking silent now, just waiting for a pin to drop!!! Or rather, a package dropped and reviewed.
TS------I have asked before, but did not get a response. When will these first orders start arriving? When will my order arrive?
Inbox me on the road and I can quickly provide you and/or anyone else this information.
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After reading this thread i decided to order a QP (2oz SSH & 2 oz OG Kush) and 5 jolly ranchers.
first time i have FE...my gut told me not to but i decided to anyway.
ill definitely leave an honest review here and update my SR feedback accordingly for the benefit of the community.
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Hey peeps.
Just wanted to drop by and link this from ATL forums.
TheTopShelf was a verified vendor on Atlantis but was banned for selling BTC for MP which is restricted in ATL.
On top of that there is user who FE'd and did not receive anything even after two weeks. Another user also FE'd and has not updated whether he's received his product or not.(looks like it's been a week.
Just wanted to keep you all on your toes and stay informed.
Here is a link to TheTopShelf ATL Review Thread http://atlmlxbk2mbupwgr.onion/index.php?topic=221.15
His ATL vendor page (now banned, once verified) [CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion/account/view/the_top_shelf
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For the record I expect you all to come here and accept your "I told you so's" when this scam happens. I am also moving my timeline way up from what I originally said was the end of June to the end of May... so about 20 days or less before TTS will be SR's next scammer. Heard it here first folks.
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On top of that there is user who FE'd and did not receive anything even after two weeks. Another user also FE'd and has not updated whether he's received his product or not.(looks like it's been a week.
Just wanted to keep you all on your toes and stay informed.
Here is a link to TheTopShelf ATL Review Thread http://atlmlxbk2mbupwgr.onion/index.php?topic=221.15
His ATL vendor page (now banned, once verified) [CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion/account/view/the_top_shelf
FYI you cannot edit your comment on Atlantis. It is a one shot. You can hold your comment until you recieve if you FE. I am in this boat, and I still have faith that my Budget QP will show up. its been about 4-5 days. I had a priority QP take 7 days about 2 weeks ago so I know the mail system is busy. Mothers Day No Doubt all them cards and last minute gifts from amazon, ebay etc.
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I wonder if thetopshelf is going to send out a few $600 QP's to build a little credibility before he takes off with the cash, or if he wont send out anything at all and he is already in 100% scammer mode
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On top of that there is user who FE'd and did not receive anything even after two weeks. Another user also FE'd and has not updated whether he's received his product or not.(looks like it's been a week.
Just wanted to keep you all on your toes and stay informed.
Here is a link to TheTopShelf ATL Review Thread http://atlmlxbk2mbupwgr.onion/index.php?topic=221.15
His ATL vendor page (now banned, once verified) [CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion/account/view/the_top_shelf
FYI you cannot edit your comment on Atlantis. It is a one shot. You can hold your comment until you recieve if you FE. I am in this boat, and I still have faith that my Budget QP will show up. its been about 4-5 days. I had a priority QP take 7 days about 2 weeks ago so I know the mail system is busy. Mothers Day No Doubt all them cards and last minute gifts from amazon, ebay etc.
Interesting I was not aware that you couldn't edit your comment. Well I do hope everything works out for everyone awaiting their letters.
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I purchased some SLH from TTS some time ago and it was fine. After the money issues report from him and the investment listing he had up, the red flags went up for me. Don't do it TTS! People don't deserve to be treated poorly when they put faith in you by placing an order.
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For the record I expect you all to come here and accept your "I told you so's" when this scam happens. I am also moving my timeline way up from what I originally said was the end of June to the end of May... so about 20 days or less before TTS will be SR's next scammer. Heard it here first folks.
You called it right. The scam is in full swing now.
Mods and admins, please audit this guy before the he is able to scam more people. Most people don't read the forums and don't know what is going on.
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I FE'd for a QP of his "Top Shelf" even after reading this thread. I felt confident when I placed my order last Thursday. Still confident that it will arrive. I messaged TTS today and asked when the tracking says it will be delivered. He replied promptly and told me Tomorrow (Monday). I'll definitely update when I get the loud pack.
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I'm in the same boat...FE'ed for some cheeba chews. It's an inconsequential amount of money ($140 or so), so I went against my gut instinct and finalized. He says I'll receive them Monday; I'll post if I do or if I don't. I can't comment about whether or not this is on a path to Tony76 land or not, but I will say by him telling me Monday he's putting a short expiration date on any potential scam. Usually, with FE scams, they keep stringing people along with story after story of supply or shipping issues, trying to get as many orders as possible before closing up shop. So, it doesn't feel like a scam to me currently.
Regardless of anything, I do hope TTS moves to a policy that supports escrow, I would be interested in some of his other products but I won't risk that amount of money with no escrow.
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Here is a radical idea, how about NOT FE'ing and staying in escrow and eliminating the risk of being scammed?
Yes i know that comes across as sarcastic but I am still amazing at home many people get fucked out by totally avoidable situations.
I haven't fully researched this thread or this vendor, my advise is general and applies to all situations.
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I FE'd for a QP of his "Top Shelf" even after reading this thread. I felt confident when I placed my order last Thursday. Still confident that it will arrive. I messaged TTS today and asked when the tracking says it will be delivered. He replied promptly and told me Tomorrow (Monday). I'll definitely update when I get the loud pack.
Before I placed an order for QP I had a question for TTS, which he replied to very quickly. Then when I did order, he replied very quickly letting me know I must FE. I had to email him again, which he also replied to very quickly. .. Yesterday in this thread he told everyone to feel free to contact him to ask about package delivery times, which I kindly did. He read the message pretty quickly, but did not respond. It's been about 24 hours or so. ..
That's the kind of thing that moves me from comfort to concern.
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I hope you guys receive your shit this week because HONESTLY I would rather eat my words and feel like an asshole than see you guys get ripped off.
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yeah, pretty sure this guy is a scam. Tried his moneypak to btc 2 days ago. Moneypak is empty and he has canceled my order, with no coins. if the coins show up i'll let ya know.
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Here is a radical idea, how about NOT FE'ing and staying in escrow and eliminating the risk of being scammed?
Yes i know that comes across as sarcastic but I am still amazing at home many people get fucked out by totally avoidable situations.
I haven't fully researched this thread or this vendor, my advise is general and applies to all situations.
+1
THIS GUY IS A SCAM VENDOR !!
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I've passed TheTopShelf up to the admins for an audit, I'd hold onto those coins everyone seems so eager to FE until they have been cleared.
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His listings have been pulled. Is this a mandatory result of the audit? God I'm wishing I'd been more patient... :'(
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His listings have been pulled. Is this a mandatory result of the audit? God I'm wishing I'd been more patient... :'(
Depends, have they just pulled their listings or is their vendor page blank?
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No active listings. Could be a good sign right?
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Who knows, maybe they ran out of inventory.
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Who knows, maybe they ran out of inventory.
That's what I'm hoping, as it would be a sign that there actually IS inventory.
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Who knows, maybe they ran out of inventory.
That's what I'm hoping, as it would be a sign that there actually IS inventory.
Chance of that is zero.
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Who knows, maybe they ran out of inventory.
That's what I'm hoping, as it would be a sign that there actually IS inventory.
This is why you should always stay in escrow, you avoid needless stressful situations like this ;)
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Anyone still hoping to receive their order can forget it, they have gone.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile
Sorry folks, this is why we KEEP on saying DO NOT FE!
FE is a scammers paradise and people just keep on falling for it.
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Yep, figured this would happen once he finished scamming on Atlantis. :\
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Was just about to order a QP from him until I noticed its F/E only. Then I see almost his whole first page of reviews are FE. Usually its a bad sign when a vendor decides to starts making his listing FE only. Not saying he's setting up a hit and run, just saying to be aware. Hope he drops the requirement soon, I decided my first day on the road after reading all the threads of people getting screwed to NEVER FE.
Really hate to quote myself here but FUCK, tried to warn you people days ago. NEVER FE especially for someone that disappeared for a month then comes back with great pricing for FE only. So many red flags. I'm still hoping you guys get your stuff, nobody deserves to be scammed, but its really looking bad at this point.
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Anyone still hoping to receive their order can forget it, they have gone.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile
Sorry folks, this is why we KEEP on saying DO NOT FE!
FE is a scammers paradise and people just keep on falling for it.
That link just takes me to my own profile. What am I looking for?
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Anyone still hoping to receive their order can forget it, they have gone.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile
Sorry folks, this is why we KEEP on saying DO NOT FE!
FE is a scammers paradise and people just keep on falling for it.
That link just takes me to my own profile. What am I looking for?
Well his store is off the road not even a user account left. It may be official.
!!!!!SCAM!!!!
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Oh well, I was really hoping to get those Cheeba Chews today. The money was change I had left in my account so I'm not sweating that.
I do feel really bad for the people who dropped real money with him though.
But yeah, first time I've been scammed...and the first time I've skipped researching the vendor before a purchase.
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Anyone still hoping to receive their order can forget it, they have gone.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile
Sorry folks, this is why we KEEP on saying DO NOT FE!
FE is a scammers paradise and people just keep on falling for it.
That link just takes me to my own profile. What am I looking for?
Well his store is off the road not even a user account left. It may be official.
!!!!!SCAM!!!!
He is still there, in stealth mode.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/89f00130a5/60
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Sorry about the FE, its fine if you don't want to order, if you don't want to FE, than don't order :) that simple.
Never ordered from Top Shelf but with that statement alone I can say that this guy will turn into a scammer at some point in his SR career and every customer of his that gives in to his BULLSHIT FE policy is facilitating the next big SR scam. My 2 cents, bring on the negative karma.
Agreed 100 percent.
In regards to karma, I got negged just for trying to warn people to be careful. Some people just don't want to be informed I guess. Karma system is a joke.
FE is only a BULLSHIT policy for WHINY FUCKS who don't realize how SR works.
The best vendors with as many orders as me are all asking for FE, just look how much I am selling you cant even see 12 hours into my feedback as new ones keep coming in.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/89f00130a5
Obviously I think all the defamation is from vendor who aren't selling as much as I am so the post actually make me quite happy to see ;D ;D ;D ;D
Plain and simple, quit whining and fuck off my thread if you do not want to FE.
Please post in review thread to review my product/packaging NOT my policies, Thank You!
The signs were so obvious. Sigh.
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Yep, figured this would happen once he finished scamming on Atlantis. :\
He only managed three Finalize Early transactions on Atlantis before they banned him, so it is fair to say they stopped him before he could put his plan into motion. I am seeing page after page of FE on his page here. They also made information about the scam public so that we could make sure he couldn't perpetuate the same scam here.
Days before TheTopShelf was discredited here on this thread, he had already been discredited on the vendor's roundtable. I am a vendor, but I am also a buyer on Silk Road. To me scamming is a crime worse than murder.
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Thinking about this more, and maybe this is just cognitive dissonance rearing it's ugly head, as I hope against reason that I'll still get my order....but, if I'm pulling a FE scam, why would I go into stealth mode and pull my listings?
Why wouldn't I leave them up as long as possible, until DPR steps in and officially cuts me off? And that doesn't appear to be what happened; he still has a vendor account and rating, he's just in stealth.
Is it at all possible he took down his listings and went stealth, knowing he would need to spend a few days filling the dozens of orders he took in? Probably not, but that seems more plausible to me.
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All the signs were there. Reminds me of The Farmacy from a few months back. Good luck to those who FE'd..
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Thinking about this more, and maybe this is just cognitive dissonance rearing it's ugly head, as I hope against reason that I'll still get my order....but, if I'm pulling a FE scam, why would I go into stealth mode and pull my listings?
Why wouldn't I leave them up as long as possible, until DPR steps in and officially cuts me off? And that doesn't appear to be what happened; he still has a vendor account and rating, he's just in stealth.
Is it at all possible he took down his listings and went stealth, knowing he would need to spend a few days filling the dozens of orders he took in? Probably not, but that seems more plausible to me.
This was my thought as well, but I waited to see if anyone else had the same thought. I'll know in roughly 3 hours or so when the post runs.
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Guess I'll take my "I told you so".
Package did not come in my estimated time, messaged TTS Saturday, was told it was in my city per DCN, which meant it should have been delivered today and it was not. I still want to hold out hope, but I don't guess that is an option.
Every last dime I had went into this and now I am royally fucked.
I'll NEVER FE again for any reason, no matter what the fuck. I've recently taken a $1400 loss and now an $800 loss.
I guess it comes down to this. If anyone can spare some loose BTC, wl2ong1 is my username on SR as well as here.
Thanks.
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This guy was obviously the former scammer 'The Farmacy'
I don't even remember him denying it when people would see the correlation, that was my biggest red flag with this guy. Fuck this guy, and sorry to those scammed. It has to take the lowest form of humans on this earth to take someone's money and run.
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Yeah, no delivery for me also. Oh well.
On the bright side, I did receive an ounce of artisan quality direct from one of the esteemed growers on the road today. So, oh well. $140 reminder about what happens when you get lazy.
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Yeah, no delivery for me also. Oh well.
On the bright side, I did receive an ounce of artisan quality direct from one of the esteemed growers on the road today. So, oh well. $140 reminder about what happens when you get lazy.
There is no bright side for me in this.
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Yeah, I feel you bro. It definitely sucks. Hopefully karma will make it up to you somehow.
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Ugh. I'm out $600 then. Motherfucker!!!! God, first time I bought weed from someone new in months, and this is what I get. I suppose I deserve it. I didn't find this thread until after ordering. He had like 300 transactions and 99% , so it seemed safe... I'm not gonna beg for coins, but if anyone out there has a heart to sell me a qp for cheap so I can try to recover a bit, I'll be your BFF ??? Live and learn sonny boy, live and learn. Fuck me...
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Looks like the account is pulled. Will I ever get my loan paid back? ::)
Oh the drama!
The signs were there, Thefarmacy to a tee. Sucks, if I had $600 to waste I might have.My dispute with "we have some for you" is in review for over a week now.
Never taken SR support so long.
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If this is a scam, which it appears to be, I just turned $950 into $22 after Sugar Mama's fees and a "top shelf qp" that looks like it is never coming. That was my entire stash. I have had over 40 shipments on SR, FE'd probably 4 or 5 times and never had a problem. I exchanged multiple messages with this vendor and it seemed legit. I asked about the free wax grams he was offering on multiple ounce orders on his one ounce listing and he said he wasn't offering that for his qp listing but would throw in a gram of shatter for me on the down low. When he marked in transit he even sent me a message telling me the shatter was Blue Dream. Just seems like a lot of role playing for a lazy scammer. I'm still hoping there is a qp coming to me in the mail but I'm not holding my breath. His profile is gone, his name goes straight to our message history. Any admins have anymore info? He took a lot of cash. Did they exchange any messages with him before he left? Why would he leave if he was scamming? Why not leave the listings up for a few more days and let more money trickle in? He said packages were going to start arriving today, that means he could have likely strung along some members of the community for a few more days at least. I only fe'd because people in town were hungry and it was dry. My friends were starting to get sad and angry. Well I guess they are going to get even more sad and angry now that they won't get their medicine for the foreseeable future. Wow.
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Anyone still hoping to receive their order can forget it, they have gone.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile
Sorry folks, this is why we KEEP on saying DO NOT FE!
FE is a scammers paradise and people just keep on falling for it.
That link just takes me to my own profile. What am I looking for?
Woops sorry nanpa, was supposed to be the link to the thread in the newbie sub forum re TTS, not sure how I ended up with a link to your profile! you had posted in that other thread a few times though, who knows.
Anyway, you were right and they are gone unless all those missing orders suddenly turn up.... no chance.
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You know I'm not really disappointed about the money since it was just change I had left, but I am bummed as fuck to not get to try the Avidekel strain. I thought maybe I had finally found something for my anxiety but not I'm fucked and no one else is offering a strain with less than 1% THC. I only know of two anyway Avidekel and R4 in Colorado. Fucking marijuana laws...
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The account was pulled by the administration for the duration of the investigation into him scamming.
That is what Libertas, (I think is the SN) stated in another thread. Global Moderator said this.
It's looking like what everyone said, a scam. However, maybe someone gets something tomorrow.
I have to hope for the best even at the worst, especially in this situation.
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Took the money and ran. No hope guys. Leave that at the door. Not being mean, but rather, just do not want you to think about waiting for your mail tomo:{
I am out to. 6bills.......that was my greed getting the best of me. Its ok....every once in a while I need a bite in the ass to realize that I am still stupid:}
I hate reading some of the post above. I hate some of you guys lost out big:{ That bums me out more than my loss. I rebound quickly, with out much effort, so it was more of a gamble for me.
Sorry guys.......nothing is coming, and all of us that FE'd, joke is on us:{ Glad SR finally pulled his account, was killing me to see more people FEing even after I posted for those to stop.
Spring........stop ordering shit when your high:}!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Can someone post the link to the thread where the admins pulled his account? That gives me the slightest bit of tiny shiver of hope, though I'm sure it is for nothing. That explanation at least makes more sense than a successful scam shutting itself down before it would make sense. What conversations happened between the admins and the vendor that made them shut him down? There hadn't even been enough time for packages to arrive and he was shut down already? Seems like a precautionary move by SR staff maybe, and all hope is not lost??? Link to more info please.
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His vending has been disabled for the time being while SR admin look into possible scamming on his part.
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Can someone post the link to the thread where the admins pulled his account? That gives me the slightest bit of tiny shiver of hope, though I'm sure it is for nothing. That explanation at least makes more sense than a successful scam shutting itself down before it would make sense. What conversations happened between the admins and the vendor that made them shut him down? There hadn't even been enough time for packages to arrive and he was shut down already? Seems like a precautionary move by SR staff maybe, and all hope is not lost??? Link to more info please.
The thread you're looking for does not exist. What others are talking about was my statement that the vendor's account has been suspended whilst under investigation - specifically, until administrators find out the full story. However, given all of the available evidence to hand, I believe the chances are 'needle-in-a-haystack-inside-a-haybarn-surrounded-by-hayfields' small that his vending privileges will be reinstated.
Sorry folks, but anyone who FE'd has almost certainly lost their money. :(
ALWAYS stay within the protection of escrow.
Libertas
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Thanks you two, that helps clarify some things. Is his account on the forums suspended? I would think he would be on here assuring people their packages are coming if those packages were actually coming and he still had an account. None of this looks good. I suppose since his account was shut down that is a tad better than if he shut it down himself and bolted. I'm really hoping I have a package waiting for me tomorrow... :-\
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Sounded like that pharmacy guy from a few months back that turned scammer
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Thanks you two, that helps clarify some things. Is his account on the forums suspended? I would think he would be on here assuring people their packages are coming if those packages were actually coming and he still had an account. None of this looks good. I suppose since his account was shut down that is a tad better than if he shut it down himself and bolted. I'm really hoping I have a package waiting for me tomorrow... :-\
No, the Silk Road forums are a free community and that kind of censorship does not take place here. I just want to reiterate in case my previous post gave anybody any sort of false hope - this guy is 99.9999% NOT coming back. It is quite evident simply from looking at various forum posts and his feedback before his account was demoted that he has been scamming people. Please don't get your hopes up about packages arriving - they're most likely NOT coming. :(
Libertas
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Word. Lesson learned. Thought I had this SR thing down. Got impatient and had my coins drop in value that put me out of reach of NorCal420Hookup's qp's and had people hounding me so I made a rash, and terrible decision. Never again.
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Word. Lesson learned. Thought I had this SR thing down. Got impatient and had my coins drop in value that put me out of reach of NorCal420Hookup's qp's and had people hounding me so I made a rash, and terrible decision. Never again.
Sorry to hear, redfunguy. We've all been guilty of bad business decisions at some stage in the past, if that's any small consolation. :-\ Hope you can get back on your feet soon!
Libertas
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Nice, I'm out about a $1000 in oil and bud and shit. Not the first time this happened, but I've FE'd for plenty of what I thought to be reputable dealers (I place large orders, and I understand that sometimes people can't have all that money out there) and have barely had problems.
Sucks, he stopped being quick to answer me as soon as I paid... and when I asked him to track my order (it's a week late) he said last night it was in my city and I'd receive it today (and I didn't) so I guess this explains everything. Oh well, karmas a bitch and you can make a lot more money doing things the legit way.
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Thanks Libertas. Much appreciated. I'll get my money straight again and return. I might focus on trying some new goodies for myself more than buying for resale, some people around me will have to scratch and claw to find their weed now. Not just me who got screwed, I just got screwed out of money, other people need their head medicine and I'm one of their only options. At least I got my $22 left lol. Can't think of anything that I can get sent for that, guess I'll wait for the price of btc to go up. I'm going to write NEVER FE 1,000 times on a chalk board now. Talk to you all later. My condolences to the other victims.
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Jesus age Christ... I am so glad that I waited to see the outcome of the supposed deliveries. I really was going to place an order under another account but that one weird feedback about the guy receiving his package EARLY and turning around and selling it just stunk of BS.
My heart goes out to everyone that just got scammed. What a pile of trash. I seriously counted about 3/4 pages with about 10/12 orders on each one and just thought... There is no way that this guy would be supplying that much product.
If the deal is too good to be true... then more than likely it is. Same BS that OLIVER pulled. There is nothing more worse than a thief!
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Took the money and ran. No hope guys. Leave that at the door. Not being mean, but rather, just do not want you to think about waiting for your mail tomo:{
I am out to. 6bills.......that was my greed getting the best of me. Its ok....every once in a while I need a bite in the ass to realize that I am still stupid:}
I hate reading some of the post above. I hate some of you guys lost out big:{ That bums me out more than my loss. I rebound quickly, with out much effort, so it was more of a gamble for me.
Sorry guys.......nothing is coming, and all of us that FE'd, joke is on us:{ Glad SR finally pulled his account, was killing me to see more people FEing even after I posted for those to stop.
Spring........stop ordering shit when your high:}!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello friend. I don't want to say I told you so for two reasons. It could have been me, and it could have been me.
All the signs were there. You have been here long enough. Wisely you only risked what you could afford, smart move.
Lets go over the details of this vendor.
He started badly with at least 4 orders screwed up. He worked hard to make up for it.
Was selling product out of a dispensary with a nice markup. First low balling, then raising his prices.
Sells just small quantities, all top shelf expensive quality products.
Disappears for a month, then comes out with a super deal if you FE. Also he was asking for loans (this should be a red light). Complains about cash flow, then comes here with, "Who me? You can trust me."
The endless thread of why not to FE abound in this place, but we collectivity still do it. When I say we should collectively ban vendors who require FE, the nay sayers come out of he woodwork, "but not my vendor". Yes your good vendor is helping these bad vendors by setting up a culture of FE is ok with some vendors, it's not.
These members should be ostracized as well, as they are part of the problem.
I feel, I knew all the signs, and warnings, but might have fallen into the trap. Except a birdie in my head tells me, "If it's too good to be true....". That has been the way of SR, since, forever. Tony76 is still here, and always will be.
My theory is people are creating vendor accounts, building them up, then selling them. I could be wrong.
Thefarmacy was out of dispensaries in MI. TTS was dispensaries in CA. Now that I think about it, there is no way a dispensary going to sell weed on the cheap.
Greed makes my stop thinking for just a second, the rest of you, may time some time.
We have to shut these guys down, collectively. If a few good vendors get hurt, so be it. They shouldn't have required FE.
Only the buyers can ban FE, stupid ::)
Now come again with the excuses, and how great your vendor is, this is a direct result. Your vendor has no respect for the system in place. Boycott all vendors who require FE. Don't be a pussy and wait for SR Support to do it. Get a clue.
WTF is up with SR Support? I have a buy under review for over 10 days. Bitches.....
Oh yea, congrads TTS, nicely played. People are fucking idiots, me included.
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Took the money and ran. No hope guys. Leave that at the door. Not being mean, but rather, just do not want you to think about waiting for your mail tomo:{
I am out to. 6bills.......that was my greed getting the best of me. Its ok....every once in a while I need a bite in the ass to realize that I am still stupid:}
I hate reading some of the post above. I hate some of you guys lost out big:{ That bums me out more than my loss. I rebound quickly, with out much effort, so it was more of a gamble for me.
Sorry guys.......nothing is coming, and all of us that FE'd, joke is on us:{ Glad SR finally pulled his account, was killing me to see more people FEing even after I posted for those to stop.
Spring........stop ordering shit when your high:}!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello friend. I don't want to say I told you so for two reasons. It could have been me, and it could have been me.
All the signs were there. You have been here long enough. Wisely you only risked what you could afford, smart move.
Lets go over the details of this vendor.
He started badly with at least 4 orders screwed up. He worked hard to make up for it.
Was selling product out of a dispensary with a nice markup. First low balling, then raising his prices.
Sells just small quantities, all top shelf expensive quality products.
Disappears for a month, then comes out with a super deal if you FE. Also he was asking for loans (this should be a red light). Complains about cash flow, then comes here with, "Who me? You can trust me."
The endless thread of why not to FE abound in this place, but we collectivity still do it. When I say we should collectively ban vendors who require FE, the nay sayers come out of he woodwork, "but not my vendor". Yes your good vendor is helping these bad vendors by setting up a culture of FE is ok with some vendors, it's not.
These members should be ostracized as well, as they are part of the problem.
I feel, I knew all the signs, and warnings, but might have fallen into the trap. Except a birdie in my head tells me, "If it's too good to be true....". That has been the way of SR, since, forever. Tony76 is still here, and always will be.
My theory is people are creating vendor accounts, building them up, then selling them. I could be wrong.
Thefarmacy was out of dispensaries in MI. TTS was dispensaries in CA. Now that I think about it, there is no way a dispensary going to sell weed on the cheap.
Greed makes my stop thinking for just a second, the rest of you, may time some time.
We have to shut these guys down, collectively. If a few good vendors get hurt, so be it. They shouldn't have required FE.
Only the buyers can ban FE, stupid ::)
Now come again with the excuses, and how great your vendor is, this is a direct result. Your vendor has no respect for the system in place. Boycott all vendors who require FE. Don't be a pussy and wait for SR Support to do it. Get a clue.
WTF is up with SR Support? I have a buy under review for over 10 days. Bitches.....
Oh yea, congrads TTS, nicely played. People are fucking idiots, me included.
Well said and I fall under the same category of idiots as you. I've not been a Road user long, but I know better than to make stupid mistakes like this one. Patience is a virtue. Everything I am told me not to FE, but I did it anyways... It's a mistake that I won't make again.
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I should mention that since I started trying to expose TheTopShelf I got a lot of negative karma. Maybe some it is was TTS shills, but some of it was surely TTS buyers that didn't want to hear what I have to say.
If you want me to keep on outing the bullshitters and the thieves, give me some positive karma. Whenever I do the right thing I get a lot more negative karma than positive, so something is definitely wrong with that.
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+1 uniwiz +1 nanpa2001
Uniwiz has been preaching against FE for as long as I can remember. So many people would still have their money if they listened to him. I don't FE ever. That's the perfect solution to all this. I don't even purchase in escrow if I think there is a chance that the vendor might be a scammer. Refusing to FE has saved me a lot of money (tony, skyy, lucydrop). Even if a vendor isn't scamming and happens to get in a fatal car accident or get arrested, you are fucked if you FE. It leaves you at the mercy of the vendor. Forum members should have been able to see this from a mile away. I pm'd TTS as soon as he started offering large amounts requiring FE because I could immediately tell something wasn't right and told him that I thought he was up to no good. He went nuts on me in a pm and basically threatened me. That's all I needed as proof. If you think there is even a 1% chance that you could get scammed, stay away. I know it's a costly lesson but I hope everybody has learned from it.
AMEN to that, and 1+ karma for your words.
The fight against scamming is going to be a struggle. We need to collectively reject FE.
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Yes he must have been the same dude as TheFarmacy or whatever it was. Cause he was the only one really thaf had bruce banner.t I was just about to buy from him too. But im in need of a cheap good ounce then gonna go to qps any suggestions?
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Sounds an awful like Mr. Yellow again. I just don't get it...
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Just as bad as being scammed is having to find another vendor with a perfect strain. TTS' Super Lemon Haze was really great for chronic fatigue (it did look just as pictured). Being out an oz. that I really needed sucks enough; starting the searc for something else with the same medicinal qualities is equally frustrating. Kicking my own ass for not listening to the voice in my head that said "don't do it - he's changed his policies too many times lately." Sympathies to everyone else who was scammed.
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Canadianknowledge?
beware asking fe and aint got 35 transaction .. read the scam threads..
report him
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Death to TTS. Death to all enemies of this revolutionary project.
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I should mention that since I started trying to expose TheTopShelf I got a lot of negative karma. Maybe some it is was TTS shills, but some of it was surely TTS buyers that didn't want to hear what I have to say.
If you want me to keep on outing the bullshitters and the thieves, give me some positive karma. Whenever I do the right thing I get a lot more negative karma than positive, so something is definitely wrong with that.
You can't stir the shit without some getting on you. Just wash it off. The smell goes away quickly.
Guys TheFarmacy, and TTS were two different people. Same scam from two different states. Get some dispensary product to seed the scam, wait, drop prices, and sell bulk. We did see it, just couldn't believe it. Shame on us.
As far as Norcal420, and Bajozerp, I am willing to throw out the baby with the bath water. Too much of a temptation, too much trust to give to anonymous people., you just have to research and look. I don't care how you justify it. We wouldn't be going through this. Just shows how biased you are. The "i got mine" attitude that sucks around here.
Sure maybe they are great vendors, but they are fucking the masses by implying FE is ok, while other honest vendors such as CN would never have you FE, for the very same reason. Who do I want to biz with? There are plenty of CN's.
It's all about the money, and that horay for me attitude. Nobody should be requiring FE, and nobody should even be asking for it. The problem is solve. too bad you are either too stupid, or too greedy to see it. It's for the good of the community, not you.
Boycott all FE requests, and you will be set free. Even if we keep an eye out, by the time we ID the scam, the damage is done. Whats so hard to understand?
The rest is bullshit excuses. I need money. It's cheaper. I've earned the right. Shit, TTS used them all. The best is, "who me?" Yes you, TTS. See ya on the next round.
I've basically had it with new vendors. Too many assholes selling weed on here that shouldn't be.
A big THANK YOU for folks like SS23, who add to the community with great, honest reviews. And to you all. I believe you all want the best, but are clueless how to protect the masses. I +1 you all, even if I disagree with your walk the fine line approach. I say screw that. I've seen this shit too many times.
A big FUCK YOU goes out to "We Got So For You" alias, we ain't got shit cause we don't know how to pack. I only wish I could review you, but 100% refund was cool. Thanks SR support. Blow me "We got some for you." Ah escrow still works, image that ::)
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Would SR staff consider refunding the transaction fees taken from the giant scammer to the customers who got screwed? I imagine the answer is no, but I'm just throwing it out there because it is not a ridiculous idea. I know escrow keeps us safe, and we fucked up 100%, but SR has taken in tens of millions of dollars over the years and did act as an intermediary in a drug deal gone wrong.
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Would SR staff consider refunding the transaction fees taken from the giant scammer to the customers who got screwed? I imagine the answer is no, but I'm just throwing it out there because it is not a ridiculous idea. I know escrow keeps us safe, and we fucked up 100%, but SR has taken in tens of millions of dollars over the years and did act as an intermediary in a drug deal gone wrong.
It actually IS a ridiculous idea when you have made the decision to leave the protection of the escrow system, knowing the risks, and then expect to still reap its benefits? Furthermore, these FE scammers don't just leave the btc sitting in their SR wallet. They know they are scamming people, and they know they will be shut down eventually, so they usually have the btc sent off to a non-SR wallet as quickly as they receive the funds.
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Would SR staff consider refunding the transaction fees taken from the giant scammer to the customers who got screwed? I imagine the answer is no, but I'm just throwing it out there because it is not a ridiculous idea. I know escrow keeps us safe, and we fucked up 100%, but SR has taken in tens of millions of dollars over the years and did act as an intermediary in a drug deal gone wrong.
You are over estimating SR's profit margins by tens of millions.
If the transactions had gone into resolution, and SR staff made the wrong decision, I would agree with you that SR should at least refund the transaction fee to you. Unfortunately you pressed the finalize button before you got the goods and you took it out of their hands.
Lets say that SR did choose to compensate people in some way. That would give rise to more reckless behavior on the part of buyers (known in economics as 'moral hazard'), and the number of scams would increase.
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I got ripped too before ... trusting me .. fuking Idiot never again
tell Dpr , Fest got a great idea rewarding call outs for scam sellers it gives incentive to others to help out and keeps THESE CUNT SCAMMERS on their toes ;) Its all too easy for them.
Get your change out guys(if you any left) donate to call a scammer out
""NEVER F.E "" LISTEN AND LEARN !
maybe help you guys too, you aint super human ;)
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Just as bad as being scammed is having to find another vendor with a perfect strain. TTS' Super Lemon Haze was really great for chronic fatigue (it did look just as pictured). Being out an oz. that I really needed sucks enough; starting the searc for something else with the same medicinal qualities is equally frustrating. Kicking my own ass for not listening to the voice in my head that said "don't do it - he's changed his policies too many times lately." Sympathies to everyone else who was scammed.
There are a lot of good vendors for zips if you search around a bit. I've had super lemon from a few people, and it usually pops up between now and June every year, imo. Just one of those popular summer-time strains...
I'll be on the lookout, and PM you if I find any.
Much appreciated; thank you!
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Would SR staff consider refunding the transaction fees taken from the giant scammer to the customers who got screwed? I imagine the answer is no, but I'm just throwing it out there because it is not a ridiculous idea. I know escrow keeps us safe, and we fucked up 100%, but SR has taken in tens of millions of dollars over the years and did act as an intermediary in a drug deal gone wrong.
Even as someone who got scammed, I think we have to take the licks (as we can't take any hits!) and suck up the loss - it is ultimately our own decision to FE and have to accept responsibility for the poor choice. Harsh lesson to learn, but it will make us more vigilant and hopefully tamp down the presence of scammers if we actively choose to not do business with them.
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I guess tens of millions may be a bit over, but the article below pegs the earnings based on commission at 6K per day and rising back in 2012. That would generate 2.2 million per year and rising. The fact that btc prices have jumped from a few dollars to $100 in the past year is where that money, if held in bitcoins, or a decent portion held in bitcoins, would turn into tens of millions (or maybe closer to ten million). I didn't take into account the escrow system costing SR money, I assume you are referring to the hedge option? That can make and lose money, I would be curious to know overall if dpr has profited from that. It is a great option and adds some stability to the volatile currency we are using. Either way, just pointing out the fact that money was made off of this scam by more than the scammer, not assigning one bit of blame to anyone other than the scammer and the people like me who got scammed. Overall I feel I am taking the loss of $800 rather well, lol. Just to reiterate, I do not blame anyone but TTS and myself. Everything is worth discussing though, if not just for the sake of establishing consensus on obvious truths.
CLEARNET WARNING
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/08/06/black-market-drug-site-silk-road-booming-22-million-in-annual-mostly-illegal-sales/
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any successful orders with canadianknowledge ?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9138c67e44
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I wish I hadn't given a positive review for this guy, but had two orders go perfectly (no FE).
Guess it was all part of the bait and switch...
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Oh well evanescence, don't feel bad about that. We all know a little better how to spot a scammer. I didn't realize that the reviews from a month ago for this vendor were for small quantities and then he/she moved up to weight with great prices and FE....duh. While a lot of us learned in this round, undoubtedly there will be some people who fall for a similar trick down the road. I'm glad SR staff stopped this before it became more of a blood bath than it already was. People can fuck over people in real life transactions, at least nobody gets robbed with a pistol in their face on SR, that is a definite improvement from the streets...though I would like to rob TTS with a pistol...then pull the trigger, lol. What a sociopath that person is. Glad I got some SR coca to make me feel better :) I really do love this place, overall it has been a great experience, as in 95% great, and the other 5% was basically my own fault. Beware of those who ask for FE. Bitcoins are a volatile currency but FE'ing is even more volatile. Don't FE, and if you do, expect not to get your product. If you don't mind losing the money, then go ahead and keep your fingers crossed. Or you could spare yourself the anxiety and just send your coins to me. ;D
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I wish I hadn't given a positive review for this guy, but had two orders go perfectly (no FE).
Guess it was all part of the bait and switch...
I did the same and kinda feel the same way... though I'm not sure I would have FE again for any more than I could afford (due to his track record).
My sympathies to all who who's money was taken.
It's a shame he went this route as his bud really was "top shelf" and nobody else is offering high CBD/low THC buds to my knowledge (and it was legit). And shipping/packaging was second to none.
And, like others have mentioned, his stuff was truly medicinal.
NOTE: That's might be a lucrative/worthwile niche hole in the market for anyone capable of filling it! (high CBD, low THC)
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What does the high cbd/low thc strains do to you? I experience anxiety when I smoke weed so I usually add a benzo to the equation and smoke alone in my home. Would a high cbd strain make me feel good with little/no anxiety or is it more useful for pain relief and other medical reasons without producing any sort of recreational effect?
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What does the high cbd/low thc strains do to you? I experience anxiety when I smoke weed so I usually add a benzo to the equation and smoke alone in my home. Would a high cbd strain make me feel good with little/no anxiety or is it more useful for pain relief and other medical reasons without producing any sort of recreational effect?
It's been useful for both in my experience with it so far!
CBD is paticulary effective for medicinal purposes such as chronic pain. High CBD/low THC strains were developed so that people could use it medicinally without being too stoned so that they could remain functional when they need to be (work or with family, etc.).
I actually picked it up for my father after he asked me if I could hunt it down for him. He was blown away by it's effects. Absolutely amazed.
However, he sent me off with a bit to experiment with (I have no medical issues). But I'm exactly like you when it comes to weed/anxiety. Turns out I absolutely LOVE the high from this stuff though! It's a completely different type of high (we both agreed on this here). It felt more like a benzo to me, but with all of the sublte pleasantries of weed (like music enhancement, color appreciation/enhancement, sensory enhancement). It was both relaxing and functional at the same time. It seems to make me more social than I am sober. No paranoia whatsoever, just comepletely at ease. I could enjoy chatting with strangers out in public or be so relaxed I fall asleep.
Very interesting stuff. I highly recommend giving it a shot should you come across it.
And for people with chronic pain it's a MUST try.
Also be aware that there are many strains with high CBD but variable THC. There seems to be alot more of these on SR. I have yet to try any of these high CBD/ normal or high THC strains.
I believe someone posted some links early in this thread with tons more information on the topic. I found it very informative.
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You can't stir the shit without some getting on you. Just wash it off. The smell goes away quickly.
As far as Norcal420, and Bajozero, I am willing to throw out the baby with the bath water. Too much of a temptation, too much trust to give to anonymous people., you just have to research and look. I don't care how you justify it. We wouldn't be going through this. Just shows how biased you are. The "i got mine" attitude that sucks around here.
Sure maybe they are great vendors, but they are fucking the masses by implying FE is ok, while other honest vendors such as CN would never have you FE, for the very same reason. Who do I want to biz with? There are plenty of CN's.
It's all about the money, and that horay for me attitude. Nobody should be requiring FE, and nobody should even be asking for it. The problem is solve. too bad you are either too stupid, or too greedy to see it. It's for the good of the community, not you.
Boycott all FE requests, and you will be set free. Even if we keep an eye out, by the time we ID the scam, the damage is done. Whats so hard to understand?
The rest is bullshit excuses. I need money. It's cheaper. I've earned the right. Shit, TTS used them all. The best is, "who me?" Yes you, TTS. See ya on the next round.
I've basically had it with new vendors. Too many assholes selling weed on here that shouldn't be.
A big THANK YOU for folks like SS23, who add to the community with great, honest reviews. And to you all. I believe you all want the best, but are clueless how to protect the masses. I +1 you all, even if I disagree with your walk the fine line approach. I say screw that. I've seen this shit too many times.
A big FUCK YOU goes out to "We Got So For You" alias, we ain't got shit cause we don't know how to pack. I only wish I could review you, but 100% refund was cool. Thanks SR support. Blow me "We got some for you." Ah escrow still works, image that ::)
I'm really sorry to hear that so many people got scammed by this vendor. That really bites. I want to clarify however that while I very much appreciate Festivalia's props to my character, I do not ask anyone to FE. This is my statement from my SR vendor page (unchanged since I began vending):
"PLEASE DO NOT FINALIZE EARLY. As a buyer, I have been scammed by vendors who asked for early finalization, and as a vendor I can wait for payment until after you have received your product. The escrow system is designed to protect protect both of our investments. Let's use it. However, you must finalize as soon as your order arrives and you have tested it. I can't restock if I don't get paid. If you don't finalize after receiving your order, I will not sell to you again. If you have a high auto-finalize rate, I will not be able to sell to you."
I agree 100% with uniwiz that, as a community, we should boycott vendors who require FE, and that as long as we continue to do business with them, requiring FE will continue to be an accepted practice. As a buyer, I do not FE (having learned my lesson the hard way), and while I'm no CN :)) as a vendor I won't ask you to FE either, whether you have 100 transactions or none at all.
Z
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I'm really sorry to hear that so many people got scammed by this vendor. That really bites. I want to clarify however that while I very much appreciate Festivalia's props to my character, I do not ask anyone to FE. This is my statement from my SR vendor page (unchanged since I began vending):
"PLEASE DO NOT FINALIZE EARLY. As a buyer, I have been scammed by vendors who asked for early finalization, and as a vendor I can wait for payment until after you have received your product. The escrow system is designed to protect protect both of our investments. Let's use it. However, you must finalize as soon as your order arrives and you have tested it. I can't restock if I don't get paid. If you don't finalize after receiving your order, I will not sell to you again. If you have a high auto-finalize rate, I will not be able to sell to you."
I agree 100% with uniwiz that, as a community, we should boycott vendors who require FE, and that as long as we continue to do business with them, requiring FE will continue to be an accepted practice. As a buyer, I do not FE (having learned my lesson the hard way), and while I'm no CN :)) as a vendor I won't ask you to FE either, whether you have 100 transactions or none at all.
Z
I just wanted to pop in here and say kudos to you for your stance on FE, BajoZero. :) +1
Libertas
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What does the high cbd/low thc strains do to you? I experience anxiety when I smoke weed so I usually add a benzo to the equation and smoke alone in my home. Would a high cbd strain make me feel good with little/no anxiety or is it more useful for pain relief and other medical reasons without producing any sort of recreational effect?
It's been useful for both in my experience with it so far!
CBD is paticulary effective for medicinal purposes such as chronic pain. High CBD/low THC strains were developed so that people could use it medicinally without being too stoned so that they could remain functional when they need to be (work or with family, etc.).
Thanks for the info. I am definitely going to give high cbd a try if I come across it.
I actually picked it up for my father after he asked me if I could hunt it down for him. He was blown away by it's effects. Absolutely amazed.
However, he sent me off with a bit to experiment with (I have no medical issues). But I'm exactly like you when it comes to weed/anxiety. Turns out I absolutely LOVE the high from this stuff though! It's a completely different type of high (we both agreed on this here). It felt more like a benzo to me, but with all of the sublte pleasantries of weed (like music enhancement, color appreciation/enhancement, sensory enhancement). It was both relaxing and functional at the same time. It seems to make me more social than I am sober. No paranoia whatsoever, just comepletely at ease. I could enjoy chatting with strangers out in public or be so relaxed I fall asleep.
Very interesting stuff. I highly recommend giving it a shot should you come across it.
And for people with chronic pain it's a MUST try.
Also be aware that there are many strains with high CBD but variable THC. There seems to be alot more of these on SR. I have yet to try any of these high CBD/ normal or high THC strains.
I believe someone posted some links early in this thread with tons more information on the topic. I found it very informative.
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>:( he,s back
beware asking fe and aint got 35 transaction .. read the scam threads..
report him
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=161390.msg1149094#msg1149094 >:( Report & keep reporting ..dont let it happen again
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SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER!!!!! Stole 240 usd from a good friend of mine after promising a btc exchange. Now my friend is in the hospital bc he wasn't able to get medications he needed asap but doesn't have insurance (it's cheaper here). No crazy drugs, nothing. Just needed money for a vendor yet TopShelf (more like low shelf) took his MP code, took the funds, and then went into stealth mode. Oh there will be constant postings bc you're greediness and scam led to my good friend in the hospital you asshole. Expect reports as well as multiple threads. Go crawl back under the rock you came from you scum of the earth.
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SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER!!!!! Stole 240 usd from a good friend of mine after promising a btc exchange. Now my friend is in the hospital bc he wasn't able to get medications he needed asap but doesn't have insurance (it's cheaper here). No crazy drugs, nothing. Just needed money for a vendor yet TopShelf (more like low shelf) took his MP code, took the funds, and then went into stealth mode. Oh there will be constant postings bc you're greediness and scam led to my good friend in the hospital you asshole. Expect reports as well as multiple threads. Go crawl back under the rock you came from you scum of the earth.
I am very sorry to hear that.
Have no doubt, this scumbag will be back. We have to be vigilant.
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SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER!!!!! Stole 240 usd from a good friend of mine after promising a btc exchange. Now my friend is in the hospital bc he wasn't able to get medications he needed asap but doesn't have insurance (it's cheaper here). No crazy drugs, nothing. Just needed money for a vendor yet TopShelf (more like low shelf) took his MP code, took the funds, and then went into stealth mode. Oh there will be constant postings bc you're greediness and scam led to my good friend in the hospital you asshole. Expect reports as well as multiple threads. Go crawl back under the rock you came from you scum of the earth.
I am very sorry to hear that.
Have no doubt, this scumbag will be back. We have to be vigilant.
they will always come back. $30-$40k of your money is worth it :'(
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$40k -$80k is even better >:( Dont fall for the FE SCAM.
Report them ALL.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=162923.msg1157392#msg1157392