Silk Road forums
Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: jtemp102311 on April 02, 2012, 11:54 pm
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Some information on these forums is INVALUABLE! We all know this.. and I'm sure some of us benefit from this.
I just hit 100 posts and have been flinging KARMA left and right.. what the fuck is up with nobody sharing KARMA!?
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People above 100 posts:::
KARMA the shit out of your fellow Roadster!
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How do you give karma / see who has left you karma ?
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Great feature for what?! All I can see is that 5 forum chatboxes agrees with you and 1 disagrees. Why and for what end... beats me.
Karma is pretty much a good for nothing bs. Remember when they'd the same lousy idea at bitcointalk?...
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I think this karma, and reputation numbers for forums is a bullshit concept in general. I hate those forums that will ban you if your rep gets too low, because if you're a new user, if you don't kiss all the other veteran user's butts you will get ganged up on and banned for sure.
But fuck somebody else being able to click a button to say whether they like your opinion or not. Many really good and insightful opinions are unpopular at first.
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This is my second post out on my road to 100 so someday I will be a Karma Fairy too.
8)
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Are u guys serious?
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lol....
haters will be haters ;)
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How do you give karma / see who has left you karma ?
You need 100 posts then it unlocks the feature.
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Sure, Karma can be used as a decent judge of a user's character, but not if we go around "fingering karma left and right". If I see a user with +1/-9, I can usually guess that if I looked in their post history, I'd see some thread where they probably acted inappropriately. If we use it sparingly, those numbers can give us some idea of the particularly nasty people and the especially good ones.
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I give it out, but only for actual helpful posts. People use it to suck the dick of or hurt the reputation of someone they either agree with or disagree with, respectively. Until there is a "see which posts got karma" function, it's pretty worthless because of how people use it. For it to be worthwhile it's imperative that we be able to see the posts that were given both positive and negative karma.
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Issued my first positive as soon as I hit 100 posts. Fun times. :)
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I notice a strong correlation between karma and the usefulness of the poster in question. People with high karma seem to say the most intelligent and useful things, whereas people with low karma seem to post all over the place, often needlessly or stupidly.
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I notice a strong correlation between karma and the usefulness of the poster in question. People with high karma seem to say the most intelligent and useful things, whereas people with low karma seem to post all over the place, often needlessly or stupidly.
What a misconception! People able to give karma are the ones posting everywhere they can and can't or open useless threads like this one.
People with "higher karma" are just asslickers of the ones above.
There's no correlation possible between "have the people to agree" (which is what "karma" stands for) and intelligence. Galileo was pretty "dumb" at his time, as his "karma" was pretty low...
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To the whoever it was that gave me negative karma, I love you too. ;D
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Hey I just got my first negative karma so clearly people are using it :)
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I notice a strong correlation between karma and the usefulness of the poster in question. People with high karma seem to say the most intelligent and useful things, whereas people with low karma seem to post all over the place, often needlessly or stupidly.
Or negatively.
I noticed that the people with a high negative karma rating, who also have (some but) low positive karma, often either post all over the place (as you said) or post exclusively negative comments. While their comments might sometimes be helpful or true, because they are clearly intelligent, the fact that the content is 99.9% negative, is what gets them the neg karma. People get sick of others who never have anything nice to say. And I agree that that should be "discouraged."
Usually I find that the people who have relatively high positive and moderate negative tend to be those who are generally helpful and intelligent, but who are also opinionated. Many people don't like opinions, especially when they make their own look pointless. And they use the karma system to "retaliate" while flying under the radar, and take advantage of not having to be held accountable for that action.
People who have generally high karma and next to no negative karma tend to be the "nice" types who don't post opinions at all. The nurturing types, if you will. Although I'm not sure if that's the right word.
There is one person who posted in this discussion, dissing the karma system, who I actually ran across on another thread being kind of an elitist douche. I look at his profile to read his comments, lo and behold -- all of his comments are elitist douche comments. Not a single comment has so much as an agreement in it. He has a couple of +karma, and plenty of -karma.
I for one agree with themessenger. I think the karma system is way too limited and almost useless until we have a feature where we can see which posts have a karma rating. Until then, people will use it as a means to ruin peoples reputations or brown nose.
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inb4 people offer positive karma for BTC
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I notice a strong correlation between karma and the usefulness of the poster in question. People with high karma seem to say the most intelligent and useful things, whereas people with low karma seem to post all over the place, often needlessly or stupidly.
What a misconception! People able to give karma are the ones posting everywhere they can and can't or open useless threads like this one.
People with "higher karma" are just asslickers of the ones above.
There's no correlation possible between "have the people to agree" (which is what "karma" stands for) and intelligence. Galileo was pretty "dumb" at his time, as his "karma" was pretty low...
Is that a fact? I definitely don't post everywhere I can. I probably don't post more than once or twice a day, unless a topic really gets my attention or I have product to review. And yet, I have over a hundred posts, and I give karma occasionally.
I think the occasional part is important, because as themessenger2 said, the system is much more effective if the karma means something useful. Flinging good and bad karma all over the board totally defeats the purpose.
And for the record, I haven't licked anyone's ass for the karma I received. But I know I can't convince you otherwise. Feel free to cope with your sour grapes in whatever way you feel is necessary, dude.
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Hey I just got my first negative karma so clearly people are using it :)
I'm definitively with you on that! :P Yikes!
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Locrian, I wasn't speaking to you, but look at your example, reg. Oct 2011 reaching 100+ posts recently.
Now take the OP:
Date Registered: March 21, 2012, 06:13 PM
1 week ago and already got over 100... yeah right! Run for the "ratings"... I could spam the forum too and get it!
Instead of "karma" why not "appreciation"? "Karma" is like an opinion pool with participants having a gun. Because forums are places of OPINION, and we don't agree to everyone, if you want just a rating system for "being handy" then go to a wiki or a Q&A system, in those systems there aren't, or shouldn't be, opinions.
So my position stands: Fuck karma!
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Locrian, I wasn't speaking to you, but look at your example, reg. Oct 2011 reaching 100+ posts recently.
Now take the OP:
Date Registered: March 21, 2012, 06:13 PM
1 week ago and already got over 100... yeah right! Run for the "ratings"... I could spam the forum too and get it!
Instead of "karma" why not "appreciation"? "Karma" is like an opinion pool with participants having a gun. Because forums are places of OPINION, and we don't agree to everyone, if you want just a rating system for "being handy" then go to a wiki or a Q&A system, in those systems there aren't, or shouldn't be, opinions.
So my position stands: Fuck karma!
I don't think I'd consider any post I've made "scamming." Rather they have all seemed, to me at least, to be useful posts.
I've been around here for almost a year, deleting and then reactivating my account when I feel too paranoid. Do your research before posting like an asshole. There is a search function for a reason.
This forum is cluttered with people like you who flame for no apparent reason.
Keep your B.S. to yourself.
-jtemp
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I posted this at Mom n Pop Stuff today. It is for all those punks that try and control forums like the little punk ass bitches they are! I apologize to anyone offended by this THAT IT IS NOT ABOUT! You who fall into this category, know who you are. This is for you. And I don't give a flying fuck if you like it or not!
'"Oh yeah, one last thing today, for those vendors that attacked both Mom and I in forums because we defended
buyers posting that FE (finalizing early) is wrong and against the 'buyers guild' instructions; And this is
from me - Pop - GO FUCK YOURSELF! You're damn lucky I can't spank your childish asses! Forums are there for
EVERYONE! Not just your sorry asses! You're all 'senior members' and set a horrible example for buyers and
are a disgrace to Silk Road!
And then you little dicked assholes are armed with what I call the "-/karma gun" to act like childish cyber
bully's by attacking anyone you don't like what they post and provide them with '-/karma' point.Who gives a
fuck? Trying to compensate for tiny penis syndrome or what? We don't even go to forums any more because of
little fuck bitches like you! You are the only fucked up thing about Silk Road! Ass holes. Same goes for you
little prick vendors that cancel orders because we won't FE. And I'm not talking about large orders, I'm
talking about 5 and 10 bitcoin items! Bull shit on you! We'd rather never do dope again than buy from your
stupid asses! And you know WHO you are too! Probably the same bitch punks in forums handing out -/karma like it means ANYTHING!
Mom sez after that I have to include this; WE LOVE YOU ALL! And I do love you guys! I just want you to stop
acting like punk ass bitch bully's. You're embarrassing!
Lol "'
I posted this here because it mentioned 'karma' - a stupid self serving idea for sure. Oh yeah, anyone who doesn't like what I say and can't wait for me to check back in - which may be NEVER - just PM me/us. Positive or negative. Because forums are for anyone/everyone to say what ever they wish. NOT JUST WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR!
We welcome negative input. We learn something from every person that ever says anything to us, from a child's words to the punk ass bitches that think their little -/karma's mean ANY THING! Get us kicked out if you can!
Punks!
Okay, Mom sez I have to tell you ALL that I do love you again. I do, you just piss me off when you do that controlling bullshit!
Have a great day y'all!
Dad
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Throw a huge 4/20 sale......receive negative karma!
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Instead of "karma" why not "appreciation"? "Karma" is like an opinion pool with participants having a gun. Because forums are places of OPINION, and we don't agree to everyone, if you want just a rating system for "being handy" then go to a wiki or a Q&A system, in those systems there aren't, or shouldn't be, opinions.
Well said. People use the karma system far too often for "agree" and "disagree," as opposed to "thank you that was very helpful" and "that's making things worse." which is what it's meant for.
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What a misconception! People able to give karma are the ones posting everywhere they can and can't or open useless threads like this one.
People with "higher karma" are just asslickers of the ones above.
However I don't agree with this. Not that I would give negative karma for it though.
People who have karma are not necessarily posting everywhere. They might just post frequently in the same thread. I have 17 karma points (good and bad) several of the bad was form a dedicated troll who decided to wait three days to give me as much neg karma as possible, but that's beside the point. I don't post in a lot of different threads. However, I am very active in one very popular thread. It a thread that moves about 5-12 pages a day, so it warrants making more than one post every few days. Karma, on these forums, is just what happens when you're active in a community.
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I think this karma, and reputation numbers for forums is a bullshit concept in general. I hate those forums that will ban you if your rep gets too low, because if you're a new user, if you don't kiss all the other veteran user's butts you will get ganged up on and banned for sure.
But fuck somebody else being able to click a button to say whether they like your opinion or not. Many really good and insightful opinions are unpopular at first.
+1 Agreed
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I don't think I'd consider any post I've made "scamming." Rather they have all seemed, to me at least, to be useful posts.
I've been around here for almost a year, deleting and then reactivating my account when I feel too paranoid. Do your research before posting like an asshole. There is a search function for a reason.
This forum is cluttered with people like you who flame for no apparent reason.
Keep your B.S. to yourself.
-jtemp
a) "Scamming" and "Spamming" are two different things.
b) Your post count counts only your current account posts, not your previous. So in a week you posted 100 something times...
"Flaming for no apparent reason" is what "karma givers" do; don't agree: -1. Agree on what? For what? Who knows...
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-3 already.
Love you guys, too. ::)
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effing TOR is slow enough already as it is and i gotta wait 2 minutes to -/+ karma someone?
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I think this karma thing is stupid! A troll can give you negative karma just for kicks. Personally as a vendor I just let my SR page speak for it self not what some troll might want to give out or because someone disagrees with you. Honestly I could careless if people give me negative karma because like I said my vendor page is where the real feed back is from actual buyers
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Just needs to get rid of the negative Karma. Serves no meaningful purpose. It should be like a normal rep system where you get +Karma for something and you can see who left it.
Otherwise, without the ability to see who gave -NEG Karma, the cowardly feel too free to dole it out.
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Just needs to get rid of the negative Karma. Serves no meaningful purpose. It should be like a normal rep system where you get +Karma for something and you can see who left it.
Otherwise, without the ability to see who gave -NEG Karma, the cowardly feel too free to dole it out.
^ this right here
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to be honest, i dont care about my personal karma
i just like to have the ability to +++ someone for something that snagged a few synapses in thy brain ;)
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-3 already.
Love you guys, too. ::)
It's because you smell..... JOKE! :P
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Ahhh, 100 posts, thanks I was wondering when I'd receive the function :)
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-3 already.
Love you guys, too. ::)
It's because you smell..... JOKE! :P
My independently runnig PharmaKarma system agrees and so now it is -4 LMFAO
I feel the love <3
But seriously. -5.
Skillz. I haz dem. Keep it coming guys, lol.
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I think when someone leaves karma they should have to write a good reason why.
I have no idea why I have 2 positive and 2 negative, or what threads they are from.
It would be nice to know what I did that was helpful and what offended someone.
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I have something to admit to everyone......I give out +Karma to members that make me laugh, not because their post is helpful. :'(
I'm such a bad person! No one look at me!!!
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I have something to admit to everyone......I give out +Karma to members that make me laugh, not because their post is helpful. :'(
I'm such a bad person! No one look at me!!!
I have to admit, I just gave everyone here a -1 because I could haha take that.... jk
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Just needs to get rid of the negative Karma. Serves no meaningful purpose. It should be like a normal rep system where you get +Karma for something and you can see who left it.
Otherwise, without the ability to see who gave -NEG Karma, the cowardly feel too free to dole it out.
+1 karma lol
Other forum software typically shows which posts the user was thanked in, so you can lookup good tutorials they wrote which is usually where all the +1 comes from. Otherwise totally meaningless option to have. I prefer zero options, more secure and less third party addons the better.
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Comparison:
Appreciation systems:
- Gives helpers a good reason to help; personal satisfaction.
- Prevents topics from being spammed with "Thank you" from people that found it useful.
Karma systems:
- Gives trolls a way to payback on someone they disagree with but are too coward or lack the rational skills or arguments to discuss with.
- To make it worse in a marketplace some customers may take "negative karma" as "negative feedback", leaving the sellers with all the reasons to not post in the forums at all in order to prevent business losses.
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Other forum software typically shows which posts the user was thanked in, so you can lookup good tutorials they wrote which is usually where all the +1 comes from. Otherwise totally meaningless option to have. I prefer zero options, more secure and less third party addons the better.
Otherwise, without the ability to see who gave -NEG Karma, the cowardly feel too free to dole it out.
This.
Appreciation systems:
- Gives helpers a good reason to help; personal satisfaction.
- Prevents topics from being spammed with "Thank you" from people that found it useful.
Karma systems:
- Gives trolls a way to payback on someone they disagree with but are too coward or lack the rational skills or arguments to discuss with.
- To make it worse in a marketplace some customers may take "negative karma" as "negative feedback", leaving the sellers with all the reasons to not post in the forums at all in order to prevent business losses.
And this.
The karmic system needs to be re-written in its entirety.
The ability to tag someone w/negative karma should be reserved exclusively for VETERAN users/vendors who:
- Have achieved a high positive karma/appreciation/post count
- Possibly mods? Maybe as a warn feature?
- Can type coherently in the English language
I call them Karma Police teehee. If they abuse their power, it's revoked.
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I love the negative karma. Thank you sir, may I have another?
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And this.
The karmic system needs to be re-written in its entirety.
The ability to tag someone w/negative karma should be reserved exclusively for VETERAN users/vendors who:
- Have achieved a high positive karma/appreciation/post count
- Possibly mods? Maybe as a warn feature?
- Can type coherently in the English language
I call them Karma Police teehee. If they abuse their power, it's revoked.
Karma Police? I think someone is a radiohead fan, lol. "This is what you get when you mess with us."
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The ability to tag someone w/negative karma should be reserved exclusively for VETERAN users/vendors who:
- Have achieved a high positive karma/appreciation/post count
- Possibly mods? Maybe as a warn feature?
- Can type coherently in the English language
If you made spelling a correct spelling a requirement, you'd have to shut the whole forum down...lol
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If you read this post and don't have anything better planned. Do as I did, +1 Karma everyone who posted in this thread :) Something tells me Karma will flow back towards you as well.
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karma pisses me off. you tell some one they are ass back wards and they give you bad karma...they should thank you i mean you say the same thing 5 times a week for months and you still answer there question hmmm... temper temper
i told 14 people they were assed backwards its looking like
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Karma rocks. So does Ron Paul..
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Off into a tangent here but is the reason why the OP of this thread's name in black because he is banned or something?
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Off into a tangent here but is the reason why the OP of this thread's name in black because he is banned or something?
Nope, as far as I can realize the guy has some paranoia and keeps deleting and re-registering his account...
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i dont really get it. all i know is im on -1 and ive got no clue why :)
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Karma rocks. So does Ron Paul..
watch him own people on youtube..
theirs also a video of him from the late 80ss arguing why all drugs should be legal funniest thing in the world if you have been following RP..IT WAS
on in 1988 on the MORTON DOWNEY SHOW WITH RON PAUL GUESTING AS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.
so google this Ron Paul on Morton Downey Jr. - 1988
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Perky is a scammer, just look at his karma. Don't listen to this fucker, just gave him some negative karma which, as they say, is a bitch sometimes.
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Finally, i have been wondering how to do this Karma stuff. I guess I need 100 posts :(
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Karma rocks. So does Ron Paul..
watch him own people on youtube..
theirs also a video of him from the late 80ss arguing why all drugs should be legal funniest thing in the world if you have been following RP..IT WAS
on in 1988 on the MORTON DOWNEY SHOW WITH RON PAUL GUESTING AS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.
so google this Ron Paul on Morton Downey Jr. - 1988
This ISN'T funny at all.This made me cry when I watched it. The people don't even give him time to explain properly. What a hard life Ron Paul must have lived, but he is still there fighting what man,that is a real Patriot.
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Finally, i have been wondering how to do this Karma stuff. I guess I need 100 posts :(
I haven't reached the point where I can give karma, but on other forums I always try to give positive feedback when someone seems like a positive person, or just needs to know that someone cares enough to read their post. Somehow all I have managed to get here is negative karma, and it kind of makes me laugh because I know some people enjoy the reaction it gets, but if you are getting bad karma for a good reason, it would be nice to have someone say what you are doing to piss people off so you have a chance to do it more, I mean change the way you post. But like I said, I think it's just a game and some people play if dif than others. I am expecting some more bad karma for this, maybe even a 420 special on bad karma points. Lol. (only thing about the karma thing that bothers me is when it is given to some dealers maybe just to make them look bad)
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Off into a tangent here but is the reason why the OP of this thread's name in black because he is banned or something?
i delete my account and reactivate it.... every time i hit 150 posts :P
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I don't like it. Basically post count means nothing. A better idea would be the ability to link your buyer and seller account to your forum username and people could see your feedback.
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Negative 10.
Must be my witty banter.
;)
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i'm sure i want to reply....
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i'm sure i want to reply....
Please don't continue to spam after you've gotten out of the Newbie subforum - especially not by bumping threads that are over a year old.