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It can take anywhere from an hour to several hours.  On a good day, you'd probably see it in 1-2 hours.

These risks come with SR, and buyers should obviously be prepared for something to go wrong. 

Yes, buyers should be prepared by encrypting their information, but vendors should also help mitigate those risks by knowing how to use PGP and not treat it like an unnecessary burden.

IF that's true scout then that is poor, poor support from SR, sub par performance from a biz that is supposed to be the best.

However I am not the only one who has been scammed. I have PMs from two other who have been scammed. They CLAIM to have also reported the action to SR. However I cannot validated their claim because I don't have the ability, but I I do think that the level of action I'm requesting is by no means out of line and this would be expected in ANY other business that includes BMR.

SR states in its buyer guide that it does not (note: CAN NOT) offer support for transactions where you're purchasing btc on the site using moneypak, wu, moneygram, etc.  If people choose to ignore that fact and purchase from btc vendors in spite of the lack of support, that is not SR's fault - that is the decision of the buyer, and it is stated from the outset that those transactions ARE NOT SUPPORTED.

Quote from: BongSong on May 11, 2013, 03:15 am

I did contact support. I hope this can be fixed.   

Don't know if you had the time to read my post before you posted yours, but I don't think this is something that Vendor Support will be able to help you with, it has to do with your transactions over a period of time and the weight of your buyers feedback.

Libertas

Good points, and I knew that about the percentage ranking that shows after a vendor's name, but the fact that it shows 0% positive feedback was what confused me.  I wasn't aware that that part would ever revert to 0%.

like i said lets give him the benefit of the doubt. just because he lacked forsite and failed to take proper precautions does not mean he is a crook. its been said a millon times herd .DO NOT FINALIZE EARLY

If I implied that he was a crook, that was not my intention.  I really don't think he is scamming - I do believe his claim that he provided his password and PIN to that phishing site.

Basically:  always encrypt your information, and never finalize early.  <-- those two things, if everyone practiced them, would make a huge impact on the number of scams around here.

Quote from: scout on May 11, 2013, 02:01 am

But this was a vendor who had great reviews.  He would have still received the $14k, even without making the person FE, because he would have shipped out the product as always and the order would have been finalized eventually upon receipt.  There would be no reason for albion himself to do this.

But this way he gets the money without having to ship. Like I said, I don't know this vendor, but the simple fact that he used his pin to login makes me suspicious.

either way, i think this would effectively dissuade me from ever wanting to place an order with a vendor in this situation.  not to mention the whole "encrypt if you want - my PGP sometimes works" thing. 

this whole situation is infuriating to me as a buyer, as a fellow vendor, and as a moderator here.

SR is not the place to be lackadaisical about security - not your own and not your buyers'.

But then again, after receiving 14k in an FE, why WOULDN'T he put out the word that his account was compromised? That makes it plausible. I don't know the vendor at all, but with that big of an FE, it might be very tempting.

But this was a vendor who had great reviews.  He would have still received the $14k, even without making the person FE, because he would have shipped out the product as always and the order would have been finalized eventually upon receipt.  There would be no reason for albion himself to do this.

Then again, why would a good vendor EVER be so careless as to provide his password and PIN to a phishing site linked to in a scam message to vendors on SR? 

None of this makes sense logically.

It also reiterates just how important it is NOT to FE, and to ALWAYS encrypt your sensitive info as a buyer. 

In the end, this entire situation comes down to the vendor himself.

Also, has his vendor profile always stated that PGP is only "sometimes working" ....   Or is that an edit from whoever is in control of his account?

Loaded up Kwick's vendor page and I see: 
"Early FE at sender's request. Will update when received." from 8 hours ago.

Just thought I'd update that. Still no word from him.

To be honest, part of the problem is that at this point, you are the only user who has reported any problems with that vendor, and it was for a transaction type that is not supported by SR, so I think that (unfortunately) nothing will happen with the vendor unless others experience similar issues with them.