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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: h1n1z2 on September 27, 2013, 05:15 pm

Title: Channel 4 News
Post by: h1n1z2 on September 27, 2013, 05:15 pm
we're about to be on.. 7pm UTC

http://www.channel4.com/news/drugs-dark-web-atlantis-silk-road-police-fbi
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: mary666 on September 27, 2013, 06:02 pm
Just watching it  :o lol
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: deathowl1990 on September 27, 2013, 06:09 pm
Link to the video?

Also lol @ "Dead Pirate Roberts".
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Tiger on September 27, 2013, 06:10 pm
We're famous!

Few thoughts:

"Channel 4 News bought 3.5g of MDMA and one gram of opium." Couldn't they have just ordered 1g!? Someone's having a good weekend!

"Lee Miles, head of cyber for the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca), said: "Online environments which appear to offer anonymity for criminals are a key priority for the National Crime Agency, which goes live on 7 October." Uhhhhhhm?

"Silk Road's owner, who uses the hacker name Dead Pirate Roberts" Hacker name?! Dead?! Idiots...


Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Cimicon-Rep on September 27, 2013, 07:21 pm
Calling him "DEAD pirate roberts" is their form of psy-ops.

And what's all this National Crime Agency talk of prioritizing "Online environments which appear to offer anonymity for criminals." Go away. Leave us alone.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: ☼LightOfPi☼ on September 27, 2013, 07:53 pm
"Criminals might think they can hide their activities in the dark web, but the new National Crime Agency will be working to shine a light into even its darkest corners and catch more abusers."

Pot... Kettle ?
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: TSX on September 27, 2013, 09:21 pm
Link to the video?

Please my American friends, someone has to capture that.

I agree with it being intention to call him Dead instead of Dread. Not even those premium journalists are that stupid.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: xpsbud on September 27, 2013, 10:02 pm
All Anchor's today remind me of the Tom Grunick character in the movie Broadcast News. When they try to ad-lib something it really shows. For example, watching CNN after the Navy yard shooting John King turns to Anderson Cooper and explains "The suspect used a cartridge called "buckshot" in his high powered fast reloading pump action 870 Remington. This is the type of heavy duty ammunition used by hunters for big game, Deer, Bear, ect."   LOL

Not impressed John.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Cornelius23 on September 27, 2013, 11:32 pm
Yeeess... Interesting interplay there between Guru-Murthy's attempts to sensationalise the piece to near 'The Day Today' levels and Dr Winstock trying to bring the tone down toward simple sensible reality.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Cornelius23 on September 27, 2013, 11:37 pm
For those beyond our shores, here's a low-volume YouTube version (Clearweb, of course): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfkdOWB86ZQ
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: thedopestjunkie on September 27, 2013, 11:48 pm
"Criminals might think they can hide their activities in the dark web, but the new National Crime Agency will be working to shine a light into even its darkest corners and catch more abusers."

Pot... Kettle ?
nailed it
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: CALiGREEN on September 28, 2013, 12:21 am
Did she REALLY say "This is 160 POUNDS of MDMA" holding up half a gram? LOL
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: deathowl1990 on September 28, 2013, 12:25 am
Did she REALLY say "This is 160 POUNDS of MDMA" holding up half a gram? LOL


Cocaine is a hellova drug.
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Thx @ Cornelius for the link +1
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: OzFreelancer on September 28, 2013, 12:39 am
Did she REALLY say "This is 160 POUNDS of MDMA" holding up half a gram? LOL


Pounds as in UK currency. And they said they bought 3.5 grams, so it would be about right :)
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: thebakertrio on September 28, 2013, 01:43 am
For those beyond our shores, here's a low-volume YouTube version (Clearweb, of course): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfkdOWB86ZQ

+1,
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Cornelius23 on September 28, 2013, 01:51 am
For those beyond our shores, here's a low-volume YouTube version (Clearweb, of course): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfkdOWB86ZQ
+1,
Oooh... Thank you. Although I think I should point out that I didn't put the video up myself :)
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: thebakertrio on September 28, 2013, 02:07 am
For those beyond our shores, here's a low-volume YouTube version (Clearweb, of course): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfkdOWB86ZQ
+1,
Oooh... Thank you. Although I think I should point out that I didn't put the video up myself :)

I know but saved me a search, anyone notice the Atlantis interface in some of the images?
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Cornelius23 on September 28, 2013, 02:45 am
… anyone notice the Atlantis interface in some of the images?
That was the actual interface? It did seem very slick.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: darkmagic65 on September 28, 2013, 08:45 am
i thought it was funny when she showed silk road on her pc and she had 2 messages
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: XTCandLSDHappyME on September 28, 2013, 11:43 am
Can't imagine that Ryan West guy is very popular right now haha what a dick!
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: cannamanuk on September 28, 2013, 12:20 pm
3 - 1/2 mdma
Club value is  £140
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: thebakertrio on September 28, 2013, 05:34 pm
3 - 1/2 mdma
Club value is  £140

224.50 US Dollar....wow, your clubs sound great ;)
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Cornelius23 on September 28, 2013, 08:42 pm
I'd like to see this on the homepage:

"DPR is exceptionally secure and smart" [Source close to the FBI]

;)

How many days of freedom does Mr West have, do you reckon? How could anyone be that foolish?
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Radius2000 on September 29, 2013, 12:31 am
Great endorsement for that particular seller.

"As seen on TV"

"Fully tested and approved by Her Majesty's Government"
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: TSX on September 29, 2013, 12:43 am
Great endorsement for that particular seller.

"As seen on TV"

"Fully tested and approved by Her Majesty's Government"

AWESOME! ;D
As seen on TV, I'm still rolling, and not because of MDMA.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Feesh on September 29, 2013, 12:45 am
Looking this one up. Thanks for the URL.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: monicabarratt on September 29, 2013, 03:39 am
How many days of freedom does Mr West have, do you reckon? How could anyone be that foolish?

He's a convicted drug dealer speaking about his past experiences which are already fully documented in the case again him. So I don't think he has much more to worry about.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Cornelius23 on September 29, 2013, 04:46 am
How many days of freedom does Mr West have, do you reckon? How could anyone be that foolish?
He's a convicted drug dealer speaking about his past experiences which are already fully documented in the case again him. So I don't think he has much more to worry about.
Ah, I missed that. I'm the foolish one, then :)

Thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: jackofspades on September 29, 2013, 06:18 am
LOL at this thread
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: isallmememe on September 29, 2013, 12:06 pm
just read some great news in one the the related stories at the bottom of the page.

Quote from: channel4 news
Budget cuts to internet crime officers

The committee said it had been told by Adrian Leppard, deputy assistant commissioner at the City of London Police, that up to a quarter of the UK's 800 specialist internet crime officers could be lost due to budget cuts.


Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: DownUnderDirect on September 29, 2013, 12:51 pm
That fuckin Ryan West. He was all over our Aussie news selling his story like he a champion. Yeh, he got caught but why fuck it up for others by talking about it openly...
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: isallmememe on September 29, 2013, 01:02 pm
you know these forums really need a huge sticky in the noob forum telling people that if they get caught on the street with the drugs they bought of sr, that they should absolutely never tell the cops they bought them off the road.

like the guy was saying in the video, only about 14% of drug users are buying online and its a minimal problem really. but the more idiots keep blabbing their mouths off to the cops about where they got them here, the worse the cops will see the problem.

ffs people, if you get caught in possession then just tell the cops you bought it of some random guy in a club or street corner somewhere. it does nothing at all what so ever to help your defense to tell the cops you bought off the road. in fact if they look at your computer and see that you've ordered from abroad then you could even face an importation charge.

the less the cops hear from users they arrest that they bought off the road, the less of an over all problem they are going to see it as. which means the less resources are going to go into combating it.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on September 29, 2013, 01:06 pm
That fuckin Ryan West. He was all over our Aussie news selling his story like he a champion. Yeh, he got caught but why fuck it up for others by talking about it openly...

I haven't watched the video in that report yet but please tell me they didn't use the Ryan West story as part of their report?

The journo who did that report actually messaged me last week asking if he could interview me, urm no thanks mate!
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: isallmememe on September 29, 2013, 01:22 pm
That fuckin Ryan West. He was all over our Aussie news selling his story like he a champion. Yeh, he got caught but why fuck it up for others by talking about it openly...

I haven't watched the video in that report yet but please tell me they didn't use the Ryan West story as part of their report?

The journo who did that report actually messaged me last week asking if he could interview me, urm no thanks mate!

what do you think of my suggestion just now? ..the more and more the cops on the street keep getting reports that drug offenders are obtaining from here, the more resources are going to get thrown at us. the longer they keep thinking it is just a very small minority of users here, the more likely they will keep targeting their resources at the street trade.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on September 29, 2013, 01:43 pm
That fuckin Ryan West. He was all over our Aussie news selling his story like he a champion. Yeh, he got caught but why fuck it up for others by talking about it openly...

I haven't watched the video in that report yet but please tell me they didn't use the Ryan West story as part of their report?

The journo who did that report actually messaged me last week asking if he could interview me, urm no thanks mate!

what do you think of my suggestion just now? ..the more and more the cops on the street keep getting reports that drug offenders are obtaining from here, the more resources are going to get thrown at us. the longer they keep thinking it is just a very small minority of users here, the more likely they will keep targeting their resources at the street trade.

SR in on the news here in Australia all the fucking time and that Ryan idiot didn't do any of us any favors thats for sure. As much as we would like to think we are some clandestine renegade group no one has heard of the reality is SR is becoming known to ever increasing numbers of people and if LE decide to make targeting this site and those who use it then I seriously doubt the small minority of people LE actually catch for SR related activity is going to be the catalyst for some major crackdown. It won't be state LE coming after us, it will be federal with all their cyber agencies concentrating their efforts.

That of course doesn't mean people should learn to keep their mouths shut, stay off national TV and get a fucking grip of themselves.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: suffix on September 29, 2013, 02:20 pm
Yeeess... Interesting interplay there between Guru-Murthy's attempts to sensationalise the piece to near 'The Day Today' levels and Dr Winstock trying to bring the tone down toward simple sensible reality.

Guru Muphey is a toy hack, always has been, always will be.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: isallmememe on September 29, 2013, 02:27 pm
yes but because of all the sensationalist news headlines its even more important that people shut their mouths. when someone gets stopped on the street and found in possession, then get arrested and tell the cops they bought it from sr, that is then recorded in their statement. when they go to court that is brought up during the case. this is then going to be jumped on by the court journalists and it will get splashed all over the local media. reading constant local reports like that on a regular basis will turn public opinion against us. its negative press for sr which we don't need. i'd say those reports are probably more negative for us with most people than the big sensationalist national news stories. the little stories bring it home and make people think its a problem that affects them in their own community. rather than something that really only happens mostly out in the bigger world.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Martipold on September 29, 2013, 03:24 pm
i agree, any publicity is bad for SR. the more people hear about it the more people will want the goverments to shut it down.

did anyone in the UK see what the government announced todaY?(link below) supposedly it is only for terrorists and shit like that but still bad news. i reckon they will work on technology to crack TOR and  related stuff for terrorism. once they have the technology they will surely come here....


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/reserves-head-up-new-cyber-unit
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: isallmememe on September 29, 2013, 03:49 pm
i agree, any publicity is bad for SR. the more people hear about it the more people will want the goverments to shut it down.

did anyone in the UK see what the government announced todaY?(link below) supposedly it is only for terrorists and shit like that but still bad news. i reckon they will work on technology to crack TOR and  related stuff for terrorism. once they have the technology they will surely come here....


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/reserves-head-up-new-cyber-unit

lolmao at the best pics they could find for that page were 'internet browser' and 'a computer circuit board'
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: mary666 on September 29, 2013, 03:59 pm
That fuckin Ryan West. He was all over our Aussie news selling his story like he a champion. Yeh, he got caught but why fuck it up for others by talking about it openly...

I haven't watched the video in that report yet but please tell me they didn't use the Ryan West story as part of their report?

The journo who did that report actually messaged me last week asking if he could interview me, urm no thanks mate!
Oh come on SSBD, I think you should do an interview through tor and set them all straight!!  ;) Lol
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Cornelius23 on September 29, 2013, 04:36 pm
I haven't watched the video in that report yet but please tell me they didn't use the Ryan West story as part of their report?

Not so much use the story as have a long interview with him!

i agree, any publicity is bad for SR. the more people hear about it the more people will want the goverments to shut it down.

Indeed. Police and governments often target resources toward whatever the media is making a huge fuss about, lest they be perceived as not listening to public concerns. Over here that often leads to what's termed 'kneejerk legislation' and the like. Sustained publicity could put greater pressure on governments to do 'something' ("for anything is better than nothing") and even if that proves ineffective against SR it would provide further excuses to restrict the freedoms of their citizens. What if a little baby managed to kill itself with an ounce of H bought over the Dark Net? Won't somebody please think of the children?

did anyone in the UK see what the government announced todaY?(link below) supposedly it is only for terrorists and shit like that but still bad news. i reckon they will work on technology to crack TOR and  related stuff for terrorism. once they have the technology they will surely come here....

I doubt that we have the resources to do much about that in Britain.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: fuckingACE on September 30, 2013, 01:56 am
lol the gram of opium was from us!

TSC! number 1 drugs supplier for the BBC! I should charge them royalties. Also thank them for analyzing our opium. note 100% pure biatches. the BBC said so.

ACE
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: monicabarratt on September 30, 2013, 02:11 am
How many days of freedom does Mr West have, do you reckon? How could anyone be that foolish?
He's a convicted drug dealer speaking about his past experiences which are already fully documented in the case again him. So I don't think he has much more to worry about.
Ah, I missed that. I'm the foolish one, then :)

Thanks for pointing that out.

No problems.

Although I do wonder whether he indeed does have something to worry about, e.g. retribution from current Silk Road community in Australia who see his use of publicity has exposing them to the public and/or increasing chances that police/customs will come down harder on postal surveillance.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: monicabarratt on September 30, 2013, 02:19 am
I would just add to the above conversation that the Australian federal police are already monitoring the site, Australian customs are already monitoring the border, etc. They have people/resources assigned to this (perhaps more so than the UK from what I hear). I didn't think this was a secret. It's quite clear from the media releases these federal agencies put out that they are indeed gathering intelligence from the site.

There is already community outrage in Australia re Silk Road, especially as there have been deaths (e.g. Preston Bridge in Perth) associated with Silk Road products.

My opinion on publicity is a bit different - I think the horse has bolted (at least here in Australia) and the best option is to try to positively influence publicity rather than just pretend it won't happen. This is where some of my research with Adam Winstock (which he describes on the Channel 4 piece) is useful as it does not sensationalise, just describes how the trends in e-commerce are now apparent in drug markets, and how some of the drivers of online drug buying can be traced back to prohibition, and questions whether such a policy is making lives better or worse for people.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Cornelius23 on September 30, 2013, 04:18 am
It's still hasn't made much mass media coverage over here in Britain yet, so I think it probably better to try to keep the low profile here. Once stories start getting plastered over the front pages of the tabloids, though, that game will be up.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: isallmememe on September 30, 2013, 09:49 am
lol the gram of opium was from us!

TSC! number 1 drugs supplier for the BBC! I should charge them royalties. Also thank them for analyzing our opium. note 100% pure biatches. the BBC said so.

ACE

hope you've changed your packaging style now tho
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: queryox on September 30, 2013, 02:36 pm
Did she REALLY say "This is 160 POUNDS of MDMA" holding up half a gram? LOL


Pounds as in UK currency. And they said they bought 3.5 grams, so it would be about right :)

Sometimes I do fear for our American counterparts, most seem to think a world outside of the USA simply does not exist...  :o
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: BTC4CASH UK on September 30, 2013, 09:01 pm
lol the gram of opium was from us!

TSC! number 1 drugs supplier for the BBC! I should charge them royalties. Also thank them for analyzing our opium. note 100% pure biatches. the BBC said so.

ACE


hahaha
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Mr BlackHat on October 01, 2013, 02:27 am
Is anyone even bothered about this?
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Shisha on October 01, 2013, 03:25 am
Is anyone even bothered about this?

Very much.. I like the way things are around here and I'd like to keep them like this.
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: fuckingACE on October 01, 2013, 07:39 am
lol the gram of opium was from us!

TSC! number 1 drugs supplier for the BBC! I should charge them royalties. Also thank them for analyzing our opium. note 100% pure biatches. the BBC said so.

ACE

hope you've changed your packaging style now tho

We rotate 4 "styles" of packaging, depending on product,  every 10 days with logo and color alterations on each rotation. They ordered over a month ago I think now, so packages have changed a lot since then.

ACE
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: jerseycow on October 01, 2013, 09:56 am
lol the gram of opium was from us!

TSC! number 1 drugs supplier for the BBC! I should charge them royalties. Also thank them for analyzing our opium. note 100% pure biatches. the BBC said so.

ACE

Lol.. i was secretly hoping to see my account crop up on screen too.. good stuff

Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: jerseycow on October 01, 2013, 09:57 am
I got asked for an interview as well by this guy about 2 weeks ago, I thought at the time it was a blanket request send to all vendors. If not then I presume regional?
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Mr BlackHat on October 01, 2013, 03:02 pm
I got asked for an interview as well by this guy about 2 weeks ago, I thought at the time it was a blanket request send to all vendors. If not then I presume regional?

Someone approached you for that on road ? :o
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: Cher on October 01, 2013, 05:53 pm
you should have told them you'd give them an interview for 20btc.... then asked them to FE and told them to fuck off hehe!
imagine the headline then... 'we got some taxpayer money scammed from us... on a black market for drugs!'
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: zazoo on October 01, 2013, 10:26 pm
Tbh that was just an advert for SilkRoad!
Title: Re: Channel 4 News
Post by: jerseycow on October 02, 2013, 12:46 pm
I got asked for an interview as well by this guy about 2 weeks ago, I thought at the time it was a blanket request send to all vendors. If not then I presume regional?

Someone approached you for that on road ? :o

PM via the forums probably, that's how they contacted me anyway.

No mine was on the main site. He wanted to ask me about Atlantis in particular. I've never been on Atlantis in my life though.

I notice that the voice of the atlantis spokesperson on the news report seems to have an Irish accent too. Starting to wonder if this guy put 2+2 together and got one million.