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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: talldreams on September 23, 2013, 02:35 am

Title: controlled delivery fail
Post by: talldreams on September 23, 2013, 02:35 am
so i just survived an attempted control delivery i ordered my 2nd shipment of m1 from a guy names tigerrush this time from china due to the price being so cheap
long story short my package didnt arrive on time so i got a little suspicious needless to say 2 hours after the normal mail comes
i see 3 undercover cars pull up and park in front of my house followed by the mail truck as if that wasnt obvious enough the mailman knocks on my door with sunglasses on and a silly smirk on his face asking me to sign i immediately said no one lives here by that name i knew they had nothing without a signature or a confession
DEA agents then jumped out of the car and pulled me outside i guess they thought i signed for it so for 20 mins they kept on trying to get me to confess or tell them who i got it from he then states that he has the ip address of someone who was tracking the package (tor came in handy) so i let them check my ip address on my laptop just to prove my innocents finally after harassing me for about 20 mins they left and i never got my package ):

lesson learned
definately not ordering anything from outside the US again
and use tor for everything even tracking

please let me know if you have any questions
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: Yoda on September 23, 2013, 02:42 am
So like they just let you walk inside to get your computer and come back out?

Did they threaten to come back or anything?
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: latexpods on September 23, 2013, 02:43 am
Tracking on tor is a good call.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: SpankySpank on September 23, 2013, 02:44 am
how large was the order?
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: darkercore on September 23, 2013, 02:45 am
This is scary. Thanks for sharing your story.

I imagine that this was a shipment of a large quantity, and I hope that this is not very common.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: surgerguy996 on September 23, 2013, 02:47 am
wow thanks for sharing this!
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: jacklinks on September 23, 2013, 02:53 am
Sounds like you got very lucky, as for the tracking over tor I actually think that's not necessarily smart. If you check the status multiple times it could be from IP's all over the world. I would think that would be very suspicious, idk if USPS tracks anything like that or not though.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: knotAcop on September 23, 2013, 02:54 am
nice, fuck the police!

too bad you didn't get your drugs though
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: staind on September 23, 2013, 03:06 am
how large was the order?

I was wondering as well, but this vendor only sells 250g+ of m1 per order. Guess that would be enough to trigger a cd anyway.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: gn0ssos on September 23, 2013, 10:26 am
Tracking on tor is a good call.

That's not what I've heard all over this forum. Everyone says NEVER to track through Tor, it flags you in the system because like someone else said, you'd be tracking it from multiple IP addresses all over the world. Safest bet is to just not track, or if you have to probably track it from a public computer at a library or something.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: gn0ssos on September 23, 2013, 10:29 am
Anyway, sorry to hear about this but I'm glad you got away free. Definitely sounds like you shouldn't order to that address ever again. I made the decision early on to never order internationally no matter how good of a deal it is. Just not worth the risk to me. If you just have to do it though I'd at least use a PO box or something where they don't have your real address. I wouldn't order that much of anything through the mail personally, especially from overseas... c'mon, man.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: fiendish on September 23, 2013, 11:52 am
If you want to track the goods log in from an internet cafe.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on September 23, 2013, 12:47 pm
How much identifiable information was you planning on posting in this thread? so far you have described the op, the name on the order is half yours and the quantity of the order.

If you don't know why this is a bad idea I can't be bothered to explain it, if this really happened you can rest assured you are now under surveillance, you have already posted a confession here.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: gn0ssos on September 23, 2013, 12:59 pm
How much identifiable information was you planning on posting in this thread? so far you have described the op, the name on the order is half yours and the quantity of the order.

If you don't know why this is a bad idea I can't be bothered to explain it, if this really happened you can rest assured you are now under surveillance, you have already posted a confession here.

Aww.. don't make him even more paranoid. But yeah, probably not the best idea, especially if you let the cops on your laptop. There's a possibility they could have installed something to track/keylog/etc. Otherwise I don't see how they could really spy on you when you're using Tor?
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on September 23, 2013, 01:16 pm
How much identifiable information was you planning on posting in this thread? so far you have described the op, the name on the order is half yours and the quantity of the order.

If you don't know why this is a bad idea I can't be bothered to explain it, if this really happened you can rest assured you are now under surveillance, you have already posted a confession here.

Aww.. don't make him even more paranoid. But yeah, probably not the best idea, especially if you let the cops on your laptop. There's a possibility they could have installed something to track/keylog/etc. Otherwise I don't see how they could really spy on you when you're using Tor?

In all honestly I think a healthy dose of paranoia is needed in this instance.

Also if you think that just using Tor is all the protection you need you need a big wake up call, LE could install all sorts of spyware on your compute and you would never know, the OP should delete this thread or at least remove all identifiable information immediately.

I know this is the newbie board but ffs c'mon people, I'm posting this for a very good reason.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: jimmyv on September 23, 2013, 01:41 pm
If you want to track the goods log in from an internet cafe.

I think you can still be tracked by the mac address of the device. You need to use a computer that everyone has access to so there is no finger pointing later. I'm not an expert but I think I'm right.

Something about this story doesn't sit right with me. I can't see LE pulling in front of the house in their unmarked cars. Makes no sense. If it is true it's probably the worst CD ever. 

Either way I NEVER order international. Now you have yet another entity looking into your sh!t. May pay more but let someone else worry about the importation. Domestic shipping, if done correctly, is so huge your chances are better.

I totally agree with samesame.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: misterbuzzed on September 23, 2013, 02:16 pm
Yes sounds like a pretty lame try from the pigs, but pigs are pretty dumb.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: Vanquish on September 23, 2013, 02:32 pm
The OP should delete this thread or at least remove all identifiable information immediately.

I have to agree with SSBD.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: Jack N Hoff on September 23, 2013, 02:33 pm
Using TOR to track packages is a bad idea.  Public WiFi or VPN is the way to go.  Unless you want your package possibly scrutinized.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: jimmyv on September 23, 2013, 02:35 pm
Jack can you use your own device to track at a public wifi spot safely?
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: Jack N Hoff on September 23, 2013, 02:38 pm
Jack can you use your own device to track at a public wifi spot safely?

Yes.  The only thing that sees your MAC address is the router.  You can easily spoof your MAC address anyways. 
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: jimmyv on September 23, 2013, 02:42 pm
That's good to know. Thanks!
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: dubsick on September 23, 2013, 02:55 pm
Are you the one blackmailing tigerrush or is it someone else that got a CD? Tigerrush said his suppliers just learned to use PGP...
- Someone is currently trying to blackmail me due to a CD that happened a few weeks ago during that customs ordeal recently..  Many big vendors were targeted including mine.  Since then my vendors have learned how to use PGP.  Just wanted it to be known that you may see some bad feedback here soon due to because they wanted more money besides the 50% that I gave them already.
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: DaTherapist on September 23, 2013, 03:25 pm
I'm happy that everything worked out and you escaped that situation free and clear.  I do wonder though what criteria make them do a controlled delivery.   I've ordered from India, Pakistan, and have gotten welcome letters from customs, but never a CD. 
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: talldreams on September 23, 2013, 06:02 pm
thanks for you guys advice def did some revising
and no i dont think its smart to blackmail someone you gave ur address to
but according to rush only the people that order the pink stuff got busted
he even told me about these guys that let their grandmother sign for it... not cool
apartments where u can see whoever pulls into ur complex... priceless
Title: Re: controlled delivery fail
Post by: woundedvet11 on September 23, 2013, 06:31 pm
I am confused because standard procedure would be a search warrant and detainment for questioning at a separate facility so that the search could be executed without impairment.

I mean no offense if this really happened to you but I see too many red flags that lead me to believe this story is manufactured.

EDIT: I have been told by a respected member of the forum that it is "100% believable" so there is that.  I still cannot bring myself to blindly accept this in the face of the contradiction of S.O.P. A search warrant would absolutely be served in case of a controlled delivery. Particularly when the individual was also grabbed by LEO.