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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: morrisen on September 04, 2013, 03:12 am

Title: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: morrisen on September 04, 2013, 03:12 am
Hi Roader´s!!

Just back from vacation I used my last C (after a break of a week) to estimate the real "value". Than I wanted to update my feedback - it´s not possible anymore!!

Vendors now got what they already wanted for a long time, we buyers CANNOT CHANGE OUR FEEDBACK ANYMORE!!!

In this case I wanted to add a very positive feedback, but there were already opposite situations when I wanted to change feedback to negative!

How the hell could our "new Dpr" do that!?

It seems, the highest value for "new Dpr" and co. is NOW only MONEY, no more ethic!!

The buyer´s interests aren´t important anymore, only the (fee-paying)-vendor´s interests are  in their sights!

We buyers on SR need to be more careful than ever before!
We have been disarmed recently!!

If you finalize at the moment you get your stuff (as the vendors request), you don´t have the time to test the material some time later (working people need to wait til weekend and longer st).
...and most important you can´t change your feedback, if it is not as expected!!!

So, how should other buyers know the truth about feedback, if you cannot write the truth, Dpr?!

When the changes were made, the only voice that was heard was the vendors voice, very poor and very sad!

"New Dpr", what do you plan next, FE for all?? No more refund?? When you get a package your order is fulfilled, no matter what´s inside??

SHAME ON YOU "new Dpr", what you made of this place is like the world-economy handles:
The only thing that counts are $$$!!!
...and don´t come along with the phrase "you´re responsible for your actions".
I´m really pissed!!

"OLD DPR, WHERE ARE YOU, WE NEED YOU BACK ON THE ROAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: plainsman1963 on September 04, 2013, 03:34 am
Well, welcome back to the party. Lol

Couple of things you posted aren't correct, so maybe reading the wiki about it might be the first step?

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Ratings_%26_Reviews
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: billiken on September 04, 2013, 05:27 am
Why would you order drugs if you were not to try them until much later? Also depending on the drug you have reagent tests. The vendor should have his money released as soon as you have your package. He has succeed in deliviring it to you, and is not his fault that you have to take a long time to test it, why would he have to wait for his money to be released, because you cant test it right away?
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: mrxempire on September 04, 2013, 05:43 am
you could always just post your issue on the vendors review page on the forums if you had an issue as well.
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: Wadozo on September 04, 2013, 06:25 am
Why would you order drugs if you were not to try them until much later? Also depending on the drug you have reagent tests. The vendor should have his money released as soon as you have your package. He has succeed in deliviring it to you, and is not his fault that you have to take a long time to test it, why would he have to wait for his money to be released, because you cant test it right away?

Completely agree!
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: JohnTheBaptist on September 04, 2013, 09:19 am
Why would you order drugs if you were not to try them until much later? Also depending on the drug you have reagent tests. The vendor should have his money released as soon as you have your package. He has succeed in deliviring it to you, and is not his fault that you have to take a long time to test it, why would he have to wait for his money to be released, because you cant test it right away?

Completely agree!
You licking ass again, of course you agree, you can't think for yourself, unless it's to choose a more ridiculous avatar. Now fuck off you fucking grass.
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: kittenfluff on September 04, 2013, 09:32 am
Wow, the OP seems to be having a bit of an aneurism over a rather trivial change to the rating system. So now you can't change feedback after, boo hoo - fact is that is fairly neutral as (like you said) it means they can't be updated positively as well as negatively.  You can still leave a rant on the forums if you feel you were scammed after you've left feedback, and the fact is that there are probably far more, and much better obfuscated, scammer-buyers than scammer-sellers, as there are far more buyers and opening a buyer account is easy and free.

Calm down and smoke a bowl. We are all still free to express ourselves here, so scammers will still be exposed. I do not see this as any great tragedy...
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: JohnTheBaptist on September 04, 2013, 09:41 am
Whether DPR is working tirelessly behind the scenes, or he is blazing a fat reefer of indica, we welcome your reassurances.
If you have anything to say to quell are worries.........
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: abercrombiekidjf on September 04, 2013, 12:27 pm
the feedback system needs to be overhauled....i wish they would make the ratings in .1 increments so sellers only received a 5/5 for perfection but still could get a 4.6-4.9 for a wonderful transaction which still makes them look really good, as well as i think the feedback should be able to be changed for up to 72 hours after the transaction has been finalized, yes i know for some products you cant do right away but you should be able to find time if you ordering this shit to use it or test it out within 3 days, i understand some scum bag buyers will go back in time and used to change feedbacks from months ago to try and score free product so i know why the change was made but we need some sort of grace period cause sometimes i do leave the feedback and i try everything and i want to change and make the feedback more positive cause everything exceeded my potency expectations, i dk i doubt it will ever come to that but it would be nice , and i swear this is like the 10 thread i have seen today about feedback issues and wondering what the SR staff is doing, im sure there working hard at it, or maybe smoking some ganja idk but either way im hoping in a week or so this all goes away
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: TorXic on September 04, 2013, 12:40 pm
Like someone else said before, you didn't get how it works the rating/feedback system.

You can finalize as soon you receive your package, and than when you tried it, rate and review the products. It's not bad at all.
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: odd on September 04, 2013, 02:53 pm
just because you finalized doesn't mean you have to give your feedback rating or review right away.  that option will stay in your order page until you hit submit feedback.
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: NorCalKing on September 04, 2013, 04:27 pm
Hi Roader´s!!

Just back from vacation I used my last C (after a break of a week) to estimate the real "value". Than I wanted to update my feedback - it´s not possible anymore!!

Vendors now got what they already wanted for a long time, we buyers CANNOT CHANGE OUR FEEDBACK ANYMORE!!!

In this case I wanted to add a very positive feedback, but there were already opposite situations when I wanted to change feedback to negative!

How the hell could our "new Dpr" do that!?

It seems, the highest value for "new Dpr" and co. is NOW only MONEY, no more ethic!!
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The buyer´s interests aren´t important anymore, only the (fee-paying)-vendor´s interests are  in their sights!

We buyers on SR need to be more careful than ever before!
We have been disarmed recently!!

If you finalize at the moment you get your stuff (as the vendors request), you don´t have the time to test the material some time later (working people need to wait til weekend and longer st).
...and most important you can´t change your feedback, if it is not as expected!!!

So, how should other buyers know the truth about feedback, if you cannot write the truth, Dpr?!

When the changes were made, the only voice that was heard was the vendors voice, very poor and very sad!

"New Dpr", what do you plan next, FE for all?? No more refund?? When you get a package your order is fulfilled, no matter what´s inside??

SHAME ON YOU "new Dpr", what you made of this place is like the world-economy handles:
The only thing that counts are $$$!!!
...and don´t come along with the phrase "you´re responsible for your actions".
I´m really pissed!!

"OLD DPR, WHERE ARE YOU, WE NEED YOU BACK ON THE ROAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

While you caught some of the changes, you kinda missed the boat on others!
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The buyer´s interests aren´t important anymore, only the (fee-paying)-vendor´s interests are  in their sights!
Umm . . .  how about the fact that if a vendor has any little thing go wrong with the transaction which may or may not have anything to do with his efforts, he will be recommended to be given a 3/5 rating!?!?!?

Or if he does exactly the same good job that he has been doing all along, he should be given a 4/5 !?!?!? 

So it's a bit more of a two way street than you might think at first glance!


Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: Gridlokk on September 04, 2013, 09:25 pm
Is it just me or does anyone else get annoyed when people try to say that DPR's motivation is only money?
 He has done so much for this community that doesnt help out his wallet in the least bit. Do you know how much he makes or had made already without any of the modifications he made? Me either, but its a boatload of BTC. He is probably set, he just wants to better this project and make the community an all around smoother and fair experience for both vendors and customers.
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: JohnTheBaptist on September 04, 2013, 10:36 pm
Jesse you fucking gypsy tramp, stop taking up half the page with your bullshit foreign writing.
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: Gridlokk on September 04, 2013, 11:56 pm
Is it just me or does anyone else get annoyed when people try to say that DPR's motivation is only money?
 He has done so much for this community that doesnt help out his wallet in the least bit. Do you know how much he makes or had made already without any of the modifications he made? Me either, but its a boatload of BTC. He is probably set, he just wants to better this project and make the community an all around smoother and fair experience for both vendors and customers.

Megalomania is a psychopathological disorder

The megalomaniac differs from the narcissist by the fact that he wishes to be powerful rather than charming, and seeks to be feared rather than loved. To this type belong many lunatics and most of the great men of history

don't say it is but...he (DPR) is changing the whole system, a system that was not ''broken'' except the problem of changing the feedback as a form of extortion or blackmail.
JUST BECAUSE HE CAN....
A system that worked great and everybody knew how to deal with it and gave exactly the right tools to express what you thought of a vendor.
All this calculating about weight and whatever...it is just smoke.

If my client is ''worth'' 200btc or 25...I don't care.
The one with the 25 btc maybe need it for his wife with cancer...the 200btc guy just to party next weekend.
Guess who get my product when I have to choose.

The weight is just something you start calculating when you only think MONEY.
A client is a client who buy a certain item.
What do I care if he bought x amount before?

Maybe I am just to stupid (DPR is nodding his head now) but they are all the same clients buying the item in the now.

Forget it....I am sure this is the reason for the complicated shit...that you say ahhh forget it LOL

You just knew a vendor with 5/5 AND!!! a wonderful feedback was the right one.
Order from him and you had the best...right people?
That was the trick...the rating AND the writing !!

Now it is changed because of what...nobody knows (and will never know)

Sorry to bring this up but it is just the truth.

I sell all I have, have repeated clients, sold over 2000+ orders and after almost as long as SR is here still have the 5/5....YES the 5/5
That count for something or at least it did.
Ask any vendor, 5/5 after so long time...it needs respect !
Not fucked by a new system that has no value at all (and buyers don't even want to use)
I rest my case.
I am old, just don't care anymore if even the SR ''energy''  does not care anymore.

Made a lot of money and made DPR a load of money...so easy to forget....isn't ?

Hope it will work out for all, vendors (who do their best) and buyers (who try to get an honest deal)

If you have a 20btc or a 200btc buyer account...all the same to me.

My last pain medication in stock...the one who need it for pain gets it...for free if I have to ...the ones needing it know...

For you to say that a buyer account that has 20 btc or 200btc is all the same to you is the same as saying that a vendor with a 5/5 that has been a vendor for 2 months is the same to me as a vendor with a 5/5 that has been vending for two years. Buyer stats have been around for pretty much the whole time SR has. They have weight to them. It seems that you just want someone to argue with.
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on September 05, 2013, 07:01 am
just because you finalized doesn't mean you have to give your feedback rating or review right away.  that option will stay in your order page until you hit submit feedback.

^^^This

Bank your feedback until you are ready to leave it, problem solved.

The only people this hinders are the feedback blackmailers who drop their feedback when they are trying to encourage the vendor to agree to their demands.

You only need to leave honest and accurate feedback one.
Title: Re: "Old Dpr" pls come back!!!!!! or what´s up with the road now?!
Post by: AbraxasRiseth on September 05, 2013, 07:38 am
Is it just me or does anyone else get annoyed when people try to say that DPR's motivation is only money?
 He has done so much for this community that doesnt help out his wallet in the least bit. Do you know how much he makes or had made already without any of the modifications he made? Me either, but its a boatload of BTC. He is probably set, he just wants to better this project and make the community an all around smoother and fair experience for both vendors and customers.


Not to mention the legal risk. I'd hate to see what the DEA or whatever foreign equivalent would do to him if they found out who he was.