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Title: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: TheYowie on July 17, 2013, 09:06 am
Ooright, I'm pretty much a 'meat and potatoes' guy.  Mostly these days I stick to Molly, and on odd occasions I turbo boost it with 2CB. I haven't tried a heap of stuff, but recently I've been eying off DMT as a potential new experiment. The short duration is definitely on the plus side as I'm 'time poor'  :)

So, what have you recently tried that you liked, or what is next on your list?
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: bs0406 on July 17, 2013, 09:11 am
DMT is on my short list as well. Been reading a lot of the experiences on Erowid and it's gotten me excited to try it out. I've got no time for the long-term stuff either. I can't be the shitty dad saying, "well I hope this shit wears off before I go pick my kid up at daycare."
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: TheYowie on July 17, 2013, 11:51 am
That sounds......vaguely......familiar.  ;D  A couple of times the GF has gone "Why are your pupils so dilated?" to which I reply "because I'm randy as" and that usually caps off the day quite nicely  ;D  However there was that time when I got drunk with this hot asian girl after popping some Hydromorphone which didn't go so well......

So yeah, DMT.    :)   Are you thinking about making "the machine" and giving it a crack?
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: bs0406 on July 17, 2013, 12:28 pm
Yeah that seems to be the best option according to the "experts"

Now the trick is just finding the time to do it. There's a documentary on Netflix called DMT: The Spirit Molecule, that I've been wanting to watch.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: acidicmonkey on July 17, 2013, 04:06 pm
Im a big tripper, I love LSD and Mushies ;D ;D
I have never done DMT and thats my next step as well. I have heard that 2cB and 2cE are really great too, Those are on my list somewhere.  I wanna make shroom chocolates. 

I wonder what its like to combine DMT after taking LSD ??? sounds fuckin awesome to me.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: TheYowie on July 18, 2013, 03:25 am
"DMT The Spirit Molecule" is really good. Have you watched the documentary on Shulgin?  That's good, too.

Looks like DMT is now top of my list!

Can't believe I'm looking at doing psychs again....
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: bs0406 on July 18, 2013, 04:46 am
Yeah I've been on a long break too. Last thing I had was some cubes in 2009 I think. Haven't dropped cid in like six years as well. It's overdue.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: CannabisConsumer on July 18, 2013, 04:50 am
You should try 25i-NBOMe.

Keep in mind it's a research chemical with an awful safety profile and was first publically available in 2010 but if you're feeling experimental it's cheap as fuck ($0.44-$1/tab) and it's a great trip. It has great visuals for most people and it has a clear mindedness to it that most psychedelics don't have. To be honest you could take it and go to school/work without incident unless your job includes anything physical.

Many describe it as "clearminded and more euphoric LSD", it's great for a party. Not introspecive in the slightest for me.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: bs0406 on July 18, 2013, 05:19 am
You should try 25i-NBOMe.

Keep in mind it's a research chemical with an awful safety profile and was first publically available in 2010 but if you're feeling experimental it's cheap as fuck ($0.44-$1/tab) and it's a great trip. It has great visuals for most people and it has a clear mindedness to it that most psychedelics don't have. To be honest you could take it and go to school/work without incident unless your job includes anything physical.

Many describe it as "clearminded and more euphoric LSD", it's great for a party. Not introspecive in the slightest for me.

That sounds really close to what I've been looking for. I used to get this really mellow acid on Pez candies. I posted about it yesterday. AcidicMonkey knew what I was talking about, but they're the only person who responded. It was great stuff. Totally euphoric and not very mind-crippling.

Fuck it. I'm gonna try it. The price is right.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: TheYowie on July 18, 2013, 05:22 am
Whats the duration on the 25i?
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on July 18, 2013, 07:00 am
How do you get on with other hallucinogens?

My advice would be to treat DMT with a lot of respect, it can be a wild ride but some people I know who have used it have found it a catalyst for a profound and an incredible journey.


 
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: Miss Sexy Boots on July 18, 2013, 08:57 am
Classic - The burden of the 21st century, too much hustle/ bustle and not enough time to trip. I feel for you Yowie: Massive powerful trip in the laundry - then all back to normal - changing the nappies.

I love DMT for 2 reasons:

1. It is Hyperdimensional and an incredibly powerful and mindblowing experience.

2. And I love it for its briefness (Apparently the chemical compound is naturally broken down very quickly within our brains synapses) So you go very hard, then you pop back up - or back out of the toilet cubicle and back into the office. (So even though it is ferocious and very clear/ warped, by the time you may in fact become cognoscenti of the potential unspeakable clarity or fear - things arrive back into the present. 

With extreme caution and care, I would prefer to assist a noob through this experience much more than that of an acid or shroom trip. You go IN, you go SIDEWAYS, you meet you MAKER, then as quick as you can pull up your zipper, you are all happy and home in awe - lucid and 'changed'.

See you on the other side...  ::)
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: MangoSeason on July 18, 2013, 05:44 pm
Classic - The burden of the 21st century, too much hustle/ bustle and not enough time to trip. I feel for you Yowie: Massive powerful trip in the laundry - then all back to normal - changing the nappies.

I love DMT for 2 reasons:

1. It is Hyperdimensional and an incredibly powerful and mindblowing experience.

2. And I love it for its briefness (Apparently the chemical compound is naturally broken down very quickly within our brains synapses) So you go very hard, then you pop back up - or back out of the toilet cubicle and back into the office. (So even though it is ferocious and very clear/ warped, by the time you may in fact become cognoscenti of the potential unspeakable clarity or fear - things arrive back into the present. 

With extreme caution and care, I would prefer to assist a noob through this experience much more than that of an acid or shroom trip. You go IN, you go SIDEWAYS, you meet you MAKER, then as quick as you can pull up your zipper, you are all happy and home in awe - lucid and 'changed'.

See you on the other side...  ::)

+1 couldn't have explained it any better!
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: Tessellated on July 18, 2013, 05:51 pm
DMT is just... well it is strange.

I would recommend it to anyone who wants to leave their body and experience another universe.

The short duration and safety of the drugs is a huge plus and the trip leaves you slack jawed and amazed each time. I never see the same thing twice.

You should have someone watch you while you do it so that you don't burn yourself with the pipe though.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: CannabisConsumer on July 18, 2013, 06:09 pm
Whats the duration on the 25i?

(I'm talking about use of sublingual blotters) 30 minutes after administration for the onset. Then by an hour after dosing up to two hours after dosing you'll be peaking for 2-4 hours. Typically closer to four hours for the peak but all bodies are different. Then it is followed by a 2 hour comedown which is pretty peaceful, not really bad unless you wear yourself out by having an orgasm or mixing it with other drugs (not recommended).

In total it's about an 8 hour trip.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: Tessellated on July 18, 2013, 06:36 pm
I wonder what its like to combine DMT after taking LSD ??? sounds fuckin awesome to me.

In my experience the DMT seems similar to always except that I can remember the trip better. But when I come back the LSD is supercharged. Last time I smoked DMT just as I was coming to the peak of a 400ug trip, by the time I came out of it the LSD visuals were EVERYWHERE. I could barely navigate, I was outside my house and it took my 5 minutes to recognize it.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: MangoSeason on July 18, 2013, 06:44 pm
I wonder what its like to combine DMT after taking LSD ??? sounds fuckin awesome to me.

In my experience the DMT seems similar to always except that I can remember the trip better. But when I come back the LSD is supercharged. Last time I smoked DMT just as I was coming to the peak of a 400ug trip, by the time I came out of it the LSD visuals were EVERYWHERE. I could barely navigate, I was outside my house and it took my 5 minutes to recognize it.

For sure, DMT definitely amplifies LSD in a good way. Amazing experience.

I usually save smoking DMT for when I'm on acid for that very reason  ;D
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: DanDanTheIceCreamMan on July 18, 2013, 07:58 pm
You should definitely take dmt in a large dose. It will make you question reality. And what it is that makes things real in the first place. Fractals.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: LIGHTFLOWER on July 20, 2013, 03:30 am
nbomes are less metaphisical. there are more color enhancing and sense intensificatiom.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: MeowFlakes on July 20, 2013, 06:44 am
Whats the duration on the 25i?

Usually lasts about 9 hours for me on a 1mg dose, then you just feel "UP" but a few beers after and you'll be resting your head no problem.

While we are talking about sleeping and experimenting, anyone have any good experiences on which drugs make you have more vivid dreams?
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: TheYowie on July 20, 2013, 08:37 am
I'm fine on psycs.  Been doing them for 20 years, basically, and my first forays into the rave scene was with acid.  I like acid but by the time it's run it's course I'm always pretty much over it and just wanting to get off the fucking bus. It's fine when you're fully immersed with a bunch of people who are also fully immersed, but these days it's more frequent that I'm doing goodies for my own edification or for 'spare time fun', so I really can't be fucked up for 8+ hours unless I magically have a free evening and that's reasonably rare.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: enpiping on July 20, 2013, 05:22 pm
but these days it's more frequent that I'm doing goodies for my own edification or for 'spare time fun', so I really can't be fucked up for 8+ hours unless I magically have a free evening and that's reasonably rare.
I'm definitely in the same boat.  I have to plan a few days (at least) ahead if I'm going to do anything like acid or that lasts longer than a couple hours.
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: zer021 on July 23, 2013, 05:18 pm
i know its not a psychedelic really but mxe was something I tried when I was feeling a bit experimental.  Pretty crazy stuff I got a half gram off some vendor and managed to get the last of their stuff.  After trying out increasing doses I decided i wanted to "hole"  so I sniffed about 40-50 mg and then immediately put another 40-50 in my lower front gums.  The things i saw I can only begin to describe.  It started with this really intense falling sensation almost as if being thrown from a spaceship and into a wormhole (which is how i describe it now "the wormhole") and from there it is what i would imagine a wormhole looking like.  A lot of blue and white electricity looking shit spinning and pulsing around me with the falling sensation just getting faster.  From there the memory is a bit faded (this was a year and a half ago too) but i remember being on some sort of different world or small moon or something completely crazy.  But it was comfortable and peaceful there was long grass all around me but it was shimmering black and gold. and i remember seeing the sky as a blue-green color, but then i was just shooting through the wormhole again.  One of the last things i remember seeing before i started to come back down was looking at myself laying in my bed (not sure how its possible but it happened) i was on my ceiling looking at myself laying on my bed, but it was backwards too as though i were laying on my ceiling head to foot with myself below me.

I have tried to reach this kind of hole again but ended up getting some of the yellow sandy mxe (someone should know what im talking about) which was a bit weaker and more stimmy than the mxe i got the first time which was pure white and fluffy.

all in all i may go get some coins now that im back to thinking about it and take another go at it;)

good luck with the experimenting and happy exploring!




thought i should add that low dose mxe really only lasts 4-6 hrs
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: Croskin on July 23, 2013, 09:28 pm
Before you do DMT, watch 'Enter the Void'  ;D
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: Juggernog on July 23, 2013, 09:38 pm
You should try 25i-NBOMe.

Keep in mind it's a research chemical with an awful safety profile and was first publically available in 2010 but if you're feeling experimental it's cheap as fuck ($0.44-$1/tab) and it's a great trip. It has great visuals for most people and it has a clear mindedness to it that most psychedelics don't have. To be honest you could take it and go to school/work without incident unless your job includes anything physical.

Many describe it as "clearminded and more euphoric LSD", it's great for a party. Not introspecive in the slightest for me.

Really? This was the info I was looking for on these.
So is it a mix between the feeling speedy from amphetamines, but the trippyness of shrooms or what?

I want to take this shit and goto work! lol
Title: Re: Feeling experiemental.....what to try next?
Post by: snark on July 24, 2013, 12:28 am
If you haven't tried it already I would like to recommend MDA. It can get fairly psychedelic but in a fairly gentle way, combined with the happy glow of MDMA and quite a bit more energy in my experience.