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Title: What exactly constitutes a "threat" from a vendor
Post by: ananas_xpress on July 08, 2013, 05:04 pm
Hi guys,
 
Made a few orders now on the site and never had a problem,
I made a second purchase of some weed off a vendor with feedback in the low 90s, The weed was lower quality than the first time and for sure not bud, about 50/50 leaf and bud.
I left a 2 star review saying it was half and half but then got a message back saying "I had to change it before things get escalated" 
To me that sounds like a passive aggressive threat hoping I just do what I'm told so I sleep well at night knowing this person (could) still have my address.

Chances are they are bluffing but I'm sure I can the only person who has maybe got this for leaving what I thought was an honest review for somebody who was advertising bud.
I'm not reporting it just yet and replied saying what was the issue but just wanted to let you guys know as it's something I didn't think of before and would definitely damage my trust in vendors and the site in general.
Title: Re: What exactly constitutes a "threat" from a vendor
Post by: Turkey for Breakfast on July 08, 2013, 07:53 pm
At this point, the worst I would expect from him would be blacklisting. If he were to come back with a more clear threat of using your address or something like that I would report it immediately and advertise it on the forums for the community to be aware of this behavior.
Title: Re: What exactly constitutes a "threat" from a vendor
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on July 09, 2013, 12:02 am
I would pm them back and ask them to clarify precisely what "getting escalated" means? if they say they will blacklist you well then there is little you can do about that, however if they are actually threatening you then submit a customer support ticket via the market site and report them to the admins. They can then review the message logs and decide if action is warranted.

Personally if a vendor threatened me to change my honest and genuine feedback I would tell them where to go.
Title: Re: What exactly constitutes a "threat" from a vendor
Post by: zxydwx3 on July 09, 2013, 12:30 am
I'd always message a vendor before leaving less than 5/5. But if they know you're unhappy, and don't have any interest in making you happier, then fire away with the truth.

At this point, I don't think you've been "threatened", but I think you are wise to exercise caution. Like you said, there is a real imbalance between the potential risk to each party, since the vendor may still have your address. Certainly report to SR admins if there is anything further.
Title: Re: What exactly constitutes a "threat" from a vendor
Post by: ananas_xpress on July 09, 2013, 12:24 pm
I'd always message a vendor before leaving less than 5/5. But if they know you're unhappy, and don't have any interest in making you happier, then fire away with the truth.

At this point, I don't think you've been "threatened", but I think you are wise to exercise caution. Like you said, there is a real imbalance between the potential risk to each party, since the vendor may still have your address. Certainly report to SR admins if there is anything further.

This is how I feel right now, I'm talking it out with the guy and explaining.
A little bit has to be my part as well as it is only polite to explain what you thought was wrong with the product.

I'm not sure what the standard rating for "much worse quality than the last batch I got from you to the point of being not as described" but in my case it's 3/5

Thing that bugs me a bit is I don't have much to lose and would ignore any passive aggressive language like they used but somebody else might be much more intimidated by it than me
Title: Re: What exactly constitutes a "threat" from a vendor
Post by: joolz on July 16, 2013, 11:56 pm
Hi guys,
 
Made a few orders now on the site and never had a problem,
I made a second purchase of some weed off a vendor with feedback in the low 90s, The weed was lower quality than the first time and for sure not bud, about 50/50 leaf and bud.
I left a 2 star review saying it was half and half but then got a message back saying "I had to change it before things get escalated" 
To me that sounds like a passive aggressive threat hoping I just do what I'm told so I sleep well at night knowing this person (could) still have my address.

Chances are they are bluffing but I'm sure I can the only person who has maybe got this for leaving what I thought was an honest review for somebody who was advertising bud.
I'm not reporting it just yet and replied saying what was the issue but just wanted to let you guys know as it's something I didn't think of before and would definitely damage my trust in vendors and the site in general.
eh who your a seller and a big scammer so what the fuk are you going on about fukwit   >:(
Title: Re: What exactly constitutes a "threat" from a vendor
Post by: mojorizen on July 17, 2013, 04:21 am
The problem is the rating system. Leaving a 2/5 can drop a vendor's rating a few percent depending on some things like how much you spent, how often you buy and stuff like that. I forget where the formula is in the wiki.

Never assume that vendors actually delete addresses. Especially if the buyer leaves a bad feedback score or tried to blackmail them using feedback. 
You gave your address to a drug dealer who sent you illegal drugs. You didn't send your address to a merchant on ebay for some collectible.

Just ask yourself, "is it really worth all this?" SR admins won't be able to help you. Plus I doubt the vendor would be that dumb to spell out his threat.
Title: Re: What exactly constitutes a "threat" from a vendor
Post by: ananas_xpress on July 18, 2013, 10:29 am
Hi guys,
 
Made a few orders now on the site and never had a problem,
I made a second purchase of some weed off a vendor with feedback in the low 90s, The weed was lower quality than the first time and for sure not bud, about 50/50 leaf and bud.
I left a 2 star review saying it was half and half but then got a message back saying "I had to change it before things get escalated" 
To me that sounds like a passive aggressive threat hoping I just do what I'm told so I sleep well at night knowing this person (could) still have my address.

Chances are they are bluffing but I'm sure I can the only person who has maybe got this for leaving what I thought was an honest review for somebody who was advertising bud.
I'm not reporting it just yet and replied saying what was the issue but just wanted to let you guys know as it's something I didn't think of before and would definitely damage my trust in vendors and the site in general.
eh who your a seller and a big scammer so what the fuk are you going on about fukwit   >:(

If you are capable of writing that in English I may respond to you, I lost it at "eh who your a seller "
Update guys, I actually took the plunge to become a seller mainly because of the standard of vendor in my area,

If I ever sell "Bud" and it turns out to be half leaf and the rest tiny nugs feel free to rip me a new on and leave 1/5
Buyers should NEVER have to be put in a position where they can even feel threatened, I would suggest SR implement a feedback system that gives buyers more anonymity.