Silk Road forums
Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: 1conoclast on June 18, 2013, 10:03 pm
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Who is this BlownWhistler fuck? Do you think he is a Vendor? Why is he posting customers information?
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where?
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I think a Moderator needs to step in here. It looks like a vendor lost his mind... just my 2c
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here
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=171361.0
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Wow, that account was removed in super fast time. Good work SR moderators! Who was it so I can bitcoin your wallets?
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Moderator caught it.....
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Wow, that account was removed in super fast time. Good work SR moderators! Who was it so I can bitcoin your wallets?
Agreed.. he spammed just about every post on the front page, that was unnerving....
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I have deleted the account posting that information but they are stating they will be posting more so my deleting their account will only slow them down for the time it takes them to register a new one.
I also have to log off for a few hours now, if you see more posts of this nature please hit report to moderator and it will be dealt with as soon as is possible.
ssbd
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Thats not good.. Some vendor pissed at SR?
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Here we go... Hope that list is BS
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the post office tracker are real from Oct 2012
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wtf that is really uncool. He's back too, as infowhistle.
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super uncool... Thanks to the mods for acting quickly!
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Not quick enough - Letters to DEA or not every narc on the forum had the importunity to copy that list down. Feel bad for the people listed.
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It must be someone with scripting skills like that bitcoinarr spammer, because it seems to be just doing it over and over under different names.
How bad is it for those people? I mean anybody could publish anyone's name like that anonymously, doesn't mean they actually did anything. Quantities looked relatively small anyway, and what the heck is the DEA going to do in Australia?
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Bump
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It must be someone with scripting skills like that bitcoinarr spammer, because it seems to be just doing it over and over under different names.
How bad is it for those people? I mean anybody could publish anyone's name like that anonymously, doesn't mean they actually did anything. Quantities looked relatively small anyway, and what the heck is the DEA going to do in Australia?
The DEA and America are sworn to police the globe... without the globe's consent. Didn't you know that? Ha.
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Also begs the question, how do you stay off that list. I guess you can't entirely avoid the risk. But someone could easily pick you at random from a phone book for such a list too. Has this guy really been planning to do this for over six months? The whole thing just seems strange. Maybe some weird LE scare like 'oh no stay off the road, we will find out who you are!', or possibly a competing site 'look how insecure SR is!'?
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The list is also 8+ months old, i wonder how long this "vendor" kept records, i RTM everytime i see a new one pop up but sheesh, i cant keep up and almost give up.
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DIRTBAG CLOWN...DESERVES MORE THAN TO SIMPLY GET REMOVED
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I'm not sure if LE, if they even saw any of the names, could use it as credible evidence. Not to mention following up on all of the people on the lists would be quite the task. Still, it is a cause for concern.
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DIRTBAG CLOWN...DESERVES MORE THAN TO SIMPLY GET REMOVED
part of the whole anonymity means that they cant do anything more, shitty but thats how it is i guess
LE wouldnt be able to do anything but ask questions, i dont think its probable cause since anyone can get a phone book and make up a list like that
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sPAMOMATICS. tHEY ARE EVERYWHERE!
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Well the fuck has scared me off, i am from Australia and there was alot of AUS adresses on there...
NOT GOOD...It really makes me wonder how stelth the road is??
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Today's mass posting of buyers details is obviously highly concerning and I would advise anyone using SR to invest a lot of time and energy into fully researching how to use this place as safely as possible. Setting yourself up with safe drop arrangements is a must in order to sever the link between you and the order. How you go about doing this will depend a lot of what country you live in as different countries have different considerations with regards to receiving mail.
Opinion is divided on the forums and there are many threads debating the merits of using your real name against a fake name etc. At the very least you should always send your identifiable information encrypted using PGP and as I said make arrangements to put as much distance between you and the delivery address as possible.
ssbd
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info is bought daily from the silk road regardless of PGP ENCRYPTION.
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info is bought daily from the silk road regardless of PGP ENCRYPTION.
Would you like to elaborate on this Whistleblowers, please?
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info is bought daily from the silk road regardless of PGP ENCRYPTION.
Having just reviewed your posts you seem to be our new resident FUD spreader.
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Assuming the info is genuine, it is most likely purchased from one or more current or former vendors. In a sense I guess that can be a wakeup call. Does every vendor sell his/her customer list? Probably not. But would some vendors do so? Most likely. So picking a vendor who will not save and later sell the customer list is important (or using info that cannot be traced back to you as mentioned above by samesamebutdifferent.) The best would probably be vendors who do not save the info in the first place, then they can't sell it later.
Good vendors who are trying to establish or have established a good business I would think would be the least likely to engage in selling the information. I mean it's not good for business if your customers are freaked out or busted. But in the long run I think it's simply not possible to know what vendors might do that.
It's also possible a vendor would fake this information to sell, though that would seem like a lot of work. But depending on how much is being paid for the info it might be worth the time.
In any event, such behavior definitely goes against SR's Code of Conduct: Our basic rules are to treat others as you would wish to be treated, mind your own business, and don't do anything to hurt or scam someone else.
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I've heard it said to 'follow the money'. So my guess is it is most likely a representative from a competing site, with the thought being to rattle confidence in SR's system/privacy/confidentiality. Thus making the customers listen to the red herring and flee to try to find a 'safer' platform. The problem is no such site could possibly be immune to vendors selling the information later, because the vendor ultimately has to know the delivery details in order to ship. There's another possibility to the source of the info but I don't want to mention it because I don't want to give out any ideas.
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believe what you want but Im telling the truth.
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I don't understand what your motivation is for doing so...
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to tell the truth.
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believe what you want but Im telling the truth.
Well here are some of your FUDtastic recent posts:
its all a bit strange on here.
info is bought daily from the silk road regardless of PGP ENCRYPTION.
dont think this is an anonymous site
Truth you say?
We like proof around here not FUD ;)
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its funey to you paul
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what is going on here with this disclosure shit. there really is no good info on what happened, how many names, someone mentioned that the list was 8+ months old, does that mean customer details from now to 8 months ago or the newest data on the list is 8 months old? If there is no way for us to find out if our names posted at least a timeline would really help put some of us in a better position to determine if our info was realeased.
I have money on here and order I want to place but I will not place a single order and I don't think anyone should until there is a bit more info on this.
Am I missing something?
be safe all and my .02btc is for everyone to put ordering on hold for a bit but we all know that will not happen.
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nope.you get anything with cash on here didn't you know
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what is going on here with this disclosure shit. there really is no good info on what happened, how many names, someone mentioned that the list was 8+ months old, does that mean customer details from now to 8 months ago or the newest data on the list is 8 months old? If there is no way for us to find out if our names posted at least a timeline would really help put some of us in a better position to determine if our info was realeased.
I have money on here and order I want to place but I will not place a single order and I don't think anyone should until there is a bit more info on this.
Am I missing something?
be safe all and my .02btc is for everyone to put ordering on hold for a bit but we all know that will not happen.
what is going on here with this disclosure shit. there really is no good info on what happened, how many names, someone mentioned that the list was 8+ months old, does that mean customer details from now to 8 months ago or the newest data on the list is 8 months old? If there is no way for us to find out if our names posted at least a timeline would really help put some of us in a better position to determine if our info was realeased.
I have money on here and order I want to place but I will not place a single order and I don't think anyone should until there is a bit more info on this.
Am I missing something?
be safe all and my .02btc is for everyone to put ordering on hold for a bit but we all know that will not happen.
Basically it's business as usual. As long as you go with a reputable high ranked vendor you should be ok. Thousands of us are every day.
What whistleblowers is doing is basically trolling. Making inane one line statements without any back up of proof or intelligently argued points/opinions.
The mods did their job and whipped down the info asap.
The 'list' was about 20 names and addresses, mostly Australia. The list was from Oct/Nov 2012 if I recall. For all we know it could be fake but it did look like a dox leak.
I really wouldn't worry about it. Considering the nature of the beast here, I think we're lucky to have such a well rounded forum relatively free of the dregs of the internet.
Do your research, be as secure as you can (PGP, drop addresses etcetc) and go with a good vendor. You'll be good.
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thats the best info you could get for nothing on here
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It's fear mongering. This person is trying to discredit SR and cause mistrust among the SR users. What's being implied is that SR is somehow unsecure and cannot be trusted. That is not true. A rogue vendor who is willing to save and sell customer information is the risk.
Who would stand to profit the most if SR was gone, or if a lot of users were afraid to use it? I would argue it is the site that many people went to when SR was down for four days a couple weeks back. Probably a site that states they use "advanced encryption services to ensure your purchases and sales are safe and anonymous on our network." Well that may very well be true, but it still means nothing if the vendor keeps the details and is willing to sell them - that could happen on any site.
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it does 8)