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Title: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 10, 2013, 03:05 pm
Hi all ! (gotta anticipate Sorry for my hard noob english knowledge)

 I had several shipment with friends to this vendor they always gone good, he always had fast answers 1-2 day shipment and product was even more. So here comes the problem: first time i order for myself, i set up my account i deposit after several impossible missions my btc payd up somethin like 120 euro and i get my 8 g of good hemp at gold price, ofc i had to istant FE or no ship neither, i wont tell vendor name yet, wanna see if his going to answer me, 7 days ago shipment was. What make me feel scammed this time its that  i had low support from him, i think he did not ship it at all, after 3 days of mail i had an answer where he tells me to make a refund, plz.    How? didnt i had to finalize like all the other times? what should i do? maybe i should just wait more, i repeat he didnt miss a shoot before that, and first time i order with new acc i get this, somethin irregular to me.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on June 10, 2013, 09:13 pm
Hi bng7

When you finalize an order the coins are released from escrow and given escrow is the mechanism SR admins use to help in disputes they can no longer assist you should you run into difficulties.

If I am understanding your situation correctly I would say the first sentence of this post applies to you, if I have misunderstood your issue please try to explain more clearly what happened.

ssbd
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 10, 2013, 10:12 pm
Hi, thx for your reply, im sad to say u understood pretty well, im sure this vendor its ok on previous sells never had problems, im gonna wait 1-2 more days then i gonna ask if someone had same problems withhim,dont wanna make public its name yet, cause he's used to be honest until he did not ship me nothin and told me to refund when he know i cant.
 there should be some way to punish a clear scammer. i will update this if necessary either if i want to belive he shipped it at last.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen HAZEBUSTA TOOK IT
Post by: bng7 on June 13, 2013, 07:53 pm
So, never had tracking number, just got pissed about this, 14 days waiting 8g of weed pay up 120€ i set up a fake adress and a fake nick (actually pinocchio's actor lol) for nothin, hazebusta stole my money, he did not ship at all, he saw my account was with 0 transaction, ofc it was a new one linked to new adress so i had to waste time also to figure this out for nothin, but cash i sent u was fucking real.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 13, 2013, 07:56 pm
Im sure many new users got scammed like this and they just though shipment didnt arrive, no good, had 2 answers in 12 days and both of em where somewhat "trolly" i mean u cant ask me refund if u want FE istant, and where's my pack tracking number? maybe u never shipped it? sellor in question itsì HAZEBUSTA
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 13, 2013, 08:06 pm
I like SR idea it could be great, but like many others great idea they need honest people to work. hazebusta feedback its good how can u see if he scam 1 guy every 15-20? impossible cause he did it and my feedback either if modded result 8-9 pages behind or even more cause its 2 weeks older
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 13, 2013, 08:14 pm
in the end i would not be surprised if that adress get a police check, this vendor react too weird, on his second answer he asked me fx# number of orders then he disappeared again, 3 days now, no answer and ofc it's online whole days.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on June 13, 2013, 08:31 pm
Best thing you can do is invest a lot of time, effort and energy into vendor selection, especially when you are first getting started out on the road. Try sending some pm's to some established forum members and bounce some of your research findings off them to see if they will help you. It is generally frowned upon to just go asking for vendors of choice without having done some hard work yourself given we have all run the gauntlet of trying to find the honest and reliable vendors, no one is going to just offer that info up on a silver plate.

Everyone gets burnt a few times in the beginning, it's all part of the learning process but don't be too disillusioned by the experience, just learn from it and move forward. It is only those who do not learn by their experiences who continue to get scammed time and time again.



 
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 13, 2013, 08:40 pm
Bro, i actually did it ! i ordered many times with frends from him never had problems always had support and answer in max 24 hours, this time i contact him with my new account weeks before order, told him i was going to set up a special adress and etc cause i would need ton of weed, in the end we did first order just those 8g to try and he start disappear he never act like this before, i think he just scam 1 guy every tot with new account and not much cash on, hope he will not give sign of himself, i bet ton of invisible account tryed his first experience then got scammed by him and left silkroad witout even say a word. i want to make some light into this way to go. i think he studied this way maybe to counter who seriously scammed him, but he cant see his scamming honest ppl , his doing others what he received, that's no good, most of all has not been easy for myself get this on, i mean english isnt my motherlanguage neither as u can clearly see.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 13, 2013, 08:47 pm
I mean, just watch this, he want FE istant so ALL HIS FEEDBACK must be POSITIVE (either if 98%) but what's really interesting are fans number: Why they move from 350 to 390 but never increase? I think its cause like i did when was happy i was fan then i got scammed i remove it and many are moving from sign as a fan and remove, that's why he did not reach 500-600 fans and even more, he actully has more then 900 transactions sure. many are getting scammed from him, i want em to come out and proof how dishonest its his way to go.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on June 13, 2013, 08:59 pm
Ah sorry for misunderstanding your circumstances, no offense intended.

Yeah it happens mate, happened to me and just about everyone else, do what you are doing and share your experience, talk to others on here you are tight with and move past it, sucks I know.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 14, 2013, 08:34 pm
his going to joke with answers, he declared that he steal my money, what should i do now? im gonna find him and kill him.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on June 14, 2013, 08:44 pm
his going to joke with answers, he declared that he steal my money, what should i do now? im gonna find him and kill him.

Report it via the market site, the admins can read all messages sent between you and the vendor on SR so if they have admitted to rule breaking they can kiss their vendor account goodbye.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 14, 2013, 09:03 pm
after 5 days this its the answer:" hazebusta(99)    theres no tracking number, never ! sorry"
 Offcourse there isnt one, u never send it, one month ago i ordered with a friend from him and we been provided cause they guy i got stuff with been able to track down this pack, i was still pretty new here (like i am now) i month ago so i didnt saw procedure but he know where pakc was, we buy from hazebusta, im gonna report him, i tracked him down on normal internet, he tryed to fuck the wrong person.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 14, 2013, 09:52 pm
I just go meet him personally. im a Head technician working for military. until tomorrow i will have his info, i want to ask him watching straghit in the eyes if it efford to kid me around like this for almost 1 month.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 14, 2013, 09:57 pm
the people im used to work for goes to buy cigarettes in v-22 just for their fucking fun and actually fucking me up fucked someone else too :\
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 15, 2013, 12:04 am
I have all his info, city friends real name adress etc, if someone else got scammed like me pm, and ill send u anythin. justice done
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: l33tn355 on June 15, 2013, 12:48 am
Don't buy off of vendors that require FE, especially as a noob.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on June 15, 2013, 01:28 am
I have all his info, city friends real name adress etc, if someone else got scammed like me pm, and ill send u anythin. justice done

I can appreciate your upset and I also suspect this is all a bluff as you vent your frustrations but doxing is very much frowned upon in this community, more so than scamming as anonymity is one of the highest principles that binds this community together so I'd invite you to think carefully before posting anything further on this matter.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 15, 2013, 11:19 am
Don't buy off of vendors that require FE, especially as a noob.
i already shopped from him with other accounts, as i moved into new one i have tested ground with some message, it was lookin normal, when i FE on new account he just stop answer for 3-4 days, then his answer was " please make refund" clearly trolling after stealing me money cause he know its impossible when u  FE i told he was a scammer he start to complain about his stats, i ask him tracking code he told it never exist, lier cause previously on a friend account orders we got it still from him ofc
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 15, 2013, 11:35 am
I have all his info, city friends real name adress etc, if someone else got scammed like me pm, and ill send u anythin. justice done

I can appreciate your upset and I also suspect this is all a bluff as you vent your frustrations but doxing is very much frowned upon in this community, more so than scamming as anonymity is one of the highest principles that binds this community together so I'd invite you to think carefully before posting anything further on this matter.


 Offcourse i wont ever and never act like this if not sure at 100% , i mean i send him messages with his city and some info other info, i gived him 2 days to be regular with me, and i dropped in this too much patience after the service i got from him,he clearly been a dishonest bastard,he stole me money and then he trolled also, i know people killing for much less... those kind of persons usually pay with their legs so my 2 days are too much of a kindness for such pity thief. he will choose wisely from what i send him if im bluffing. i dont neither think he thought carefully before scamming me, so im seriously disappointing my waiting time, but to be honest its not a totally mine idea.
  If the world, somewhat  it's a shitty place; it's cause of shitty people, stealing u 100€ when they got 30000€ business weekly.100€ that you used to get somethin that's a medicine for you. this kind of people does not deserve oxygen. i had last 14 days of my life somewhat ruined by setting up a special adress and check daily mail in a not so near place from where i live, come back home check SR mailboox and start sending messages with the knowledge that i was just got scammed. ok i can effort this it happen, but get trolled also and whole this in front of admins, no .. no good.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 15, 2013, 11:50 am
I did not give his info to no one, neither on PM that i send to him, cause admins can read, so either if indirectly it wasnt ok, im not a fucking moron that likes to ruin others life, but i dont even like to meet such scumbags and have life ruined , who could? today its the  birthday of a dear person to me, (that's also the reason he  got 2 days instead of one) and also today i have to be fucked up by this story like last 13-14 days, THX HAZEBUSTA, who gonna pay for this? me again? u can even block me from giving info, ban or what you want, it wont change his destiny  its a matter of karma im not the one that decide this.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: jerryskid on June 15, 2013, 11:51 am
go to your SR account and edit the feedback you left him. Change it to1 of5 and then type out how he ripped you in the details. That will bring down his feedback and give other NEWBS something to think about before they FE. The reason you got scammed is because it was your first order and the vendor is what we call a selective scammer. After that just kiss your btc goodbye. Also make sure to go to his forum thread and share your experience, he might change his mind after you let people now he is a dick.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: vondle on June 15, 2013, 01:34 pm
Hazebusta fucked me too. It's been 2 weeks and I've received nothing. I hope this vendor is banned.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: b0m on June 15, 2013, 02:13 pm
Wow, hazebusta AGAIN! I have a feeling he will not last long anymore... So i can be happy that i got SOMETHING at least... Really hope he doesnt fall under the radar.

PLS put his name in this topic name. Thanks in advance
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen by HAZEBUSTA
Post by: bng7 on June 15, 2013, 06:37 pm
Ye this guys is a total idiot, just notice that if u get 4 bags of 3g each of weed (12 g total) u spent much less then get his 10g bag. lol u make him notice he change nothin. and those "selective scammers" are easy to track if u watch their moves, and they should be banned, i mean how can a newbuy do in such situatiion? the newbay watch others feedback and then he trust this what happen to me.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bng7 on June 16, 2013, 02:06 pm
He did not answer after 2 days, and ofc hes been online, so guys have his local ip. google eroticsouls+hazebusta, then steam hazebusta then wilhelmshaven niedersachsen + hazebusta, LOL+hazebusta  they all  same person.banned almost on all comunity he been, he lives 2 hours of train from netherlands, i wont post his name or adress, who need to find him to set up thinks must find it by himself like i did, so they proof they really mad at him and not simply scammers.
Title: Re: First experience here, cash stolen
Post by: bujlsfi on July 04, 2013, 07:05 pm
same here... nothing in my mailbox, and no answer from hazebusta. messages are still marked "unread", although he is online everyday. >:(