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Title: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on June 07, 2013, 08:26 pm
I'm starting this thread because the vendor WalkaBoot told me that he's going to contact the SR staff to blame me for some things I don't really understand nor comprehend ... so this is what happened from out of my perspective and I'm going to quote all information I gathered during the whole process of this transaction so that any SR-staff-memeber or whoever is going to be involved in this imo completely unnecessary and stupid issue is able to make his or her own picture of what happened (and maybe afterwards will explain it to me ^^ )

I don't know why but the vendor WalkaBoot is threatening me with reporting my bad behavior to the SR staff etc. ... don't know what he means as his English is pretty bad so I'm not able to understand what his problem exactly is.

It seems as he's blaming me for not having FE'd -- but I don't think he knows what FE means because he already did send the package before o_0

Maybe he's blaming me not having payed at all, I don't know ... but I - of course - did pay -- instantly after having received the shipment as it should be. The whole transaction is completed. I do have the product, am satisfied with it, gave him 5/5 feedback even after he insulted me ... I don't know what he wants to report to the SR staff but no matter what, you'll be able to track all arguments and the complete process with the information I'm providing with this (awful long) post.

Here's the proof of my payment/finalizing:

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Transaction #c85ac20436
status: finalized
buyer: 8aliaseses8
seller: WalkaBoot(100)
item: ⚔ ⚔ ⚔ ⚔ SPEED EU - FR ⚔ ⚔ ⚔ ⚔⚔ ⚔ ⚔WEEKEND OFFER
quantity: 1
shipping: FREE
postage: ฿0.00
total price: ฿0.28
ordered: May 25, 2013, 9:10 pm UTC
shipped: May 26, 2013, 9:20 am UTC
finalized: May 31, 2013, 11:40 am UTC

My name is on the "Reliable Reviwer List" of Ballzinator ... my purchasing stats are perfect and I'm honest as one can be.

Here are my purchasing stats:

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Recent purchasing statistics

Total transactions: 26
Total spent: $733.3
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 4 months

I'll now copy & paste the complete conversation of WalkaBoot and me ... it's stupid imo and I'm not feeling well doing this but I have enough of his blaming, threatening and insulting:

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EDIT: I just did cut out the communication between WalkaBoot and me because of the information I was given by samesame three posts below -- thx mate o/

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So if he's going to contact you staff-guys ... with this post you have all relevant information together and can make your own picture :)

Light & Love,
aliaseses
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: tree on June 07, 2013, 08:40 pm
I think what he meant was that you didn't finalize when the tracking showed delivered, he seems to think that FE = finalize, not "finalize early" or something. And you shouldn't worry about SR support, they won't do anything, especially if they can't understand the vendor... His page is also incredibly hard to understand, I'd looked at it before and it's pretty hard to figure out what his product is.
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on June 07, 2013, 09:25 pm
Thx for your reply :)

OK -- if this is his problem then it's just because of the fact that there was a feast day when the shipment tracking showed that the envelop has reached it's destination city ... but as there no one was working at this date the envelop was just laying around at the post office.

But even when this is his problem -- I released the bitcoins instantly when I did receive the envelop the next day ... I mean - this is pretty fast and the exact opposite of an auto finalization or the like  ;D

I'm not worried because of what SR support will do, I'm just having no desire in being blamed and insulted by this mediocrity anymore.

I mean ... I'm right on the verge of lowering my rating from a 5/5 to a 4/5 -- but as I'm a fucking nice guy and no one got really harmed (yet ... don't know how he will further act) and also the product is quite good for the price I did pay for I'm hesitating doing so.
I'm just hoping he lets it be now  :P

Thx again for your input dude o/
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on June 07, 2013, 09:28 pm
If needed SR admins can access to all the communication between you and the vendor to help them make determinations in resolution cases.
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on June 07, 2013, 09:45 pm
Really?! ... alright - so I better cut the quotes out as I don't want to make WalkaBoot look like an idiot or the like -- this isn't my concern.

Thx for that information dude :)
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: tree on June 07, 2013, 11:11 pm
You really shouldn't give him a 4/5 over this, he just can't really speak English and you always made really long posts and your English was pretty elaborate so it's understandable that he gets mad over something he may have thought. I think it's because of the tracking but it may as well be something else.
I've had a problem like that with a vendor whose English wasn't very good and long messages only confused him, but he didn't get pissed like walkaboot! If I tried to phrase my questions in a simple way it usually worked. You can try contacting him again and using some really simple English to settle this...

And so his speed is good?
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on June 07, 2013, 11:24 pm
Really?! ... alright - so I better cut the quotes out as I don't want to make WalkaBoot look like an idiot or the like -- this isn't my concern.

Thx for that information dude :)

Definitely no need to include quotes in your customer support tickets or in the resolution center no, just make reference to the points you want to make and let the admins go and read for themselves.
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on June 07, 2013, 11:49 pm
Yeah, I do think too that lowering the rating is not the best thing to do and I won't do it anyway ... but it's not the case that I have not tried using less and more simple words -- he's just not reading my messages. He hasn't read my reaction on his first insult and a few if not all others are still marked unread too -- he is just throwing confusing words in my face ... this is no way of making business imo. He should at least give his customers the chance to bring up their perspective.
Also he mentioned from time to time a 'business partner' of him that is speaking English pretty good but I never get the chance of talking to her ... for me all this disqualifies him as a top vendor and I for sure will never do business with him again -- who knows what will rampage in his mind next time ^^

And the quality of the speed ... yeah, it's quite good. A pretty clean high without much of the bad body feelings that amphetamines of worse quality are giving me (maybe it's more d-amph and less l-amph or the other way ... I always mixing them up^^). Not least for the price he's asking for -- it's a good deal I'd say.

May I ask you about your opinion regarding the feedback I gave this transaction? ... I think it's pretty obvious which one is mine ^^
Is it too harsh? IMO it's pretty fair as I'm also emphasizing the positive aspects ... to say nothing about all the problems I'm having with him isn't the right way either I think.

I just don't want to harm him but also I don't want him to treat me or anybody else like he's doing at the moment -- and even less when he's feeling like having the right on his side ... he should reflect his doing and behavior and at best change it.
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: tree on June 08, 2013, 12:12 am
Maybe he was high or something... :P And well he's confusing but all vendors that don't speak english are... On the upside, it's harder for those vendors to try to scam you. That lesbian business partner thing was kind of funny, it'd be easier if she handled SR and he handled shipments, not the other way round! What I initially understood was that you should finalize 3 days before the package gets there, that doesn't really make any sense and he didn't even warn you about that before sending it...
So does his stuff compare to BoyMaster in term of quality/price ratio? He could still be an interesting vendor if it does..

I can't seem to access SR at the moment so I can't look at your feedback.. I'll try later. I think it's important to comment on everything in a feedback so unless it's really harsh I would leave it like that.. If his communication is really bad it's good to let others know, just like it's important to say when someone's stealth is crappy! I agree with you about behaving like that, but he's screwing his own business by acting like that anyways.
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on June 08, 2013, 12:30 am
Thought about him being high too but he's behaving like this for almost 2 weeks now ^^ ... not impossible but not good either when being a vendor ;)

IMO his gear is definitely worth a try :) ... I don't know BoyMaster but a pretty new vendor from .nl  - peppernsalt - has offered some great ~70% amphetamine recently (I'm mentioning this vendor as he has had sample listings -- 200mg or so -- for little money recently and you maybe have tried his gear too) that imo is comparable with the stuff WalkaBoot is selling -- BUT with more negative side-effects.

On the other side I have to say that a good friend of mine does not like WalkaBoots gear -- he's missing 'something' ... I could imagine easily that WalkaBoots gear isn't that pushing and rushing party stuff but more like decent material to make some kind of work (like cleaning the house e.g. ;>) more doable ^^ -- know what I mean?!
It has effects with a small dose of ~10-20mg already but one can easily do 50mg+ until it starts to feel rough.

I'd say: if you could get your hands on one of his week-end specials (like me) - give it a try (iirc I payed 35$ for 5g of pretty wet paste ... he said his partner put in some more) ... for this price it's a great deal.
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: tree on June 08, 2013, 09:42 am
His stuff is extremely cheap! I would've thought that it's bad quality because of the cheap price but apparently not. I loooked at peppernsalt and his stuff is more expensive so I guess walkaboot is a better option even if he has a crappy communication!
I think it's because his stuff isn't cut with caffeine, I know what you mean, good speed is always smooth! Boymaster and CapeCrusader are apparently the best speed vendors of SR so they're kind of the standard I guess, which is why I asked how it was compared to BoyMaster.. The only difference is that 1g costs $35, as much as walkaboot's 5g... So if his stuff is not much less good then I won't buy from them again!

I saw your feedback and it's really not harsh, I think it's pretty fair!
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on June 08, 2013, 10:16 am
It IS cheap as hell, yes -- that's making me think about too :-|

On the other side: I don't know "how much" this 5g that I ordered will be after it's dry ... it's wet and greasy as hell -- maybe the amphs of Boymaster and CapeCrusader has better consistency. Peppernsalts amphetamine e.g. was not _that_ pasty.

As it's pretty cheap you can give it a try yourself without to risk much loss of money ... if it isn't of _that_ great quality you still can put some of it in your morning coffee to pimp it up ;)

Thx for your feedback regarding ... my feedback ^^ o/

I'm asking myself if and with what I'll be confronted by WalkaBoot (or the SR support) next ...

If you're going to place an order with him I'd love to hear your opinion regarding his stuff :)
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: tree on June 08, 2013, 12:46 pm
Well another feedback regarding his speed said that 5.22g of his speed resulted in approx. 4g dry, so it's not that much less. So you didn't dry it? I hope it's not too greasy to snort! BoyMaster speed was only a little wet and not waxy or greasy at all which is good. Maybe I'll give peppernsalt a try if it's pretty good too.

I won't order speed anytime soon but if/when order walkaboot's stuff I'll compare it to BoyMaster's. You should give CapeCrusader or BoyMaster a try, it would be nice to know if walkaboot's super cheap stuff is close the their stuff :P
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on June 08, 2013, 02:25 pm
Do you guys want me to move this thread to rumor mill now the customer support aspect of it has been resolved? just makes the mods job of checking threads for unresolved and/or new issues easier that's all. No hassle either way, this is the only thread in here currently in discussion mode but if the board gets flooded I'd prefer to lock it as resolved or move it to somewhere you can continue your discussion freely, up to you really.
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: tree on June 08, 2013, 02:40 pm
Moving it would be good because it doesn't really belong in customer support anymore but I guess it's up to aliaseses.
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on June 08, 2013, 02:56 pm
No dramas, I'm crashing out soon so I'll wait for aliaseses to post back and take a look in the morning.

Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on June 08, 2013, 07:28 pm
Hey guys o/

Hm. Imo it's not the best idea to move this threat to the rumors sub because imo it would be wrong-placed there too ... I don't want that all the members over there are discussing this individual situation -- it won't be good for WalkaBoot I think as it's not the best advertise for him as a vendor.

So I'd tend to just mark it as solved respectively close it ...

... I don't know if WalkaBoot has already informed the SR support and blamed me there -- and I just opened this thread so the support team could make itself a more complete picture of this case because I don't think that WalkaBoot would give pretty objective report -- but after having talked to both of you and seeing your reaction this case is closed for me as it was kind of a confirmation for me that I haven't stupidly done something wrong or the like.

@tree
Isn't there already a amphetamine-specific thread in the rumor mills?! Maybe you can open a thread regarding WalkaBoot yourself and ask there if someone is able to compare his gear to BoyMasters or so ...

@samesame
Just mark the thread as solved please ... it could be re-opened I think when needed :)

Big THX ya'all \o/ <3
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on June 08, 2013, 10:35 pm
Well as you know this will not get resolved here in the forums anyway so provided you have sent in a CS ticket on the main site then that is the most appropriate place to work things out.

I'll leave this open a while longer in case you feel the need to update this thread whist you are speaking to the admins about what has been going on.
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on June 09, 2013, 12:01 am
Well -- for me everything is fine. I mean: I placed an order, received it and released the escrow ... imo a transaction as it should be.

WalkaBoot is the one that wants to contact the support for -- I don't know for what nor do I know his problem.
The reason I started this topic for is that I don't even want to start any conversation and stuff with the support team or WalkaBoot or whoever because there's just no need to ... it's a pure waste of time ... -- and because of this I thought it might be a good idea to reveal all the facts of this transaction so I could just refer the support team to this thread (in the case WalkaBoot really does engage SR support and not just is performing threatening gestures) so they can track down this whole situation easily and are able to recognize that it's all just stupid demeanor.

Hope this whole crap is just over now and he's not coming up tomorrow again with some messages telling me that I should have FE'd or whatever ^^
Title: Re: Vendor WalkaBoot is having a problem with me that I can't comprehend ...
Post by: tree on June 09, 2013, 12:31 pm
Well I agree with not moving it because it could be bad for walkaboot's reputation. I guess I'll try to search the forums for reviews or try it myself!
I don't know what SR support could do if you didn't even try to scam him though...