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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: AtlanticExchange on May 31, 2013, 05:59 am
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Drug Dealing @ Shows/Festivals vs. Vending on Silk Road -- which of these applies to you? Do any of you do both? If so, which is more lucrative?
As a vendor transitioning from dealing IRL to dealing online; I'd like to hear some feedback! +1 to those who are true American heroes who can successfully pull off both of these ventures simultaneously. That takes skill, money, and brains.
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Here in Australia we see some of the jail sentences the US counterparts get for dealing narcotics. They are incredibly harsh and I understand there will always be someone to take the place of someone getting busted but your police are very physical and the punishments even for just possession is completely different to here in Australia. Drug laws all over the world are quite harsh and the US is just amazing though , I don't have a sentence I can refer to regarding drug dealing convictions but I have seen a lot and they are very very long.
Doesn't it cross your mind at all? Caught once pretty much life over?
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If you are good, and have a good start investment.
You can do very good in a festival. Come as early as possible and try to sell it all fast, even in bulk with some people looking to make money.
Just calculated what amount of money you need to harvest, to leave to place clean, with some good profit.
But it'll be one time.
Selling online can be done during the whole year. Every day.
And if you are legit, you'll make way more money selling on internet, but you'll have to face a constant competition.
In festival, when you have good product, it'll be gone fast :) the whole batch.
I always see people with kilo of weed, 100g of coke, tones of LSD Sheet, bag of pills .... it's crazy how festival can look like a drug open market town, like christiania was (is ?) ....
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People always getting busted at festivals here in Australia by the drug dogs. Operating online I fail to come to terms how so many mail packages at post offices so often would not raise attention. All exp post envelopes here in oz can be tracked to place of purchase....review cctv bang you are identified.
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People always getting busted at festivals here in Australia by the drug dogs. Operating online I fail to come to terms how so many mail packages at post offices so often would not raise attention. All exp post envelopes here in oz can be tracked to place of purchase....review cctv bang you are identified.
Unless one is shipping large boxes, domestic, there is no need to go into a post office. Proper postage, tracking that cant be linked to you, and blue boxes... That's all you need.
As crazy as it sounds, having a fear for the over-punishment incorporated into the laws here in America is exactly what leads one to make the right intelligent decisions; and think ahead. Anything a DEA agent would be trained on, most intelligent dealers train themselves on, and as such; can successfully operate 'side' businesses selling drugs for several years completely under the radar of the law. I would assume I'm not the only one who lives their life with confidence, and does not give anyone the impression of their under-the-table intent.
As for me, I would say there is nothing on my record if I had one, but I've never been arrested in my life, not for any reason. I have multiple aliases with all the proper documentation. The day I get printed, my prints will belong to whatever alias I get caught under; and I'll stick by that. But until then... I don't live my life in fear.
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You need of course, a stealth package when you get into the festival ^^
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People always getting busted at festivals here in Australia by the drug dogs. Operating online I fail to come to terms how so many mail packages at post offices so often would not raise attention. All exp post envelopes here in oz can be tracked to place of purchase....review cctv bang you are identified.
Unless one is shipping large boxes, domestic, there is no need to go into a post office. Proper postage, tracking that cant be linked to you, and blue boxes... That's all you need.
As crazy as it sounds, having a fear for the over-punishment incorporated into the laws here in America is exactly what leads one to make the right intelligent decisions; and think ahead. Anything a DEA agent would be trained on, most intelligent dealers train themselves on, and as such; can successfully operate 'side' businesses selling drugs for several years completely under the radar of the law. I would assume I'm not the only one who lives their life with confidence, and does not give anyone the impression of their under-the-table intent.
As for me, I would say there is nothing on my record if I had one, but I've never been arrested in my life, not for any reason. I have multiple aliases with all the proper documentation. The day I get printed, my prints will belong to whatever alias I get caught under; and I'll stick by that. But until then... I don't live my life in fear.
Excellent thinking!
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Ive been selling weed and shrooms for 9 years. 14 months ago I found sr and started selling all kinds of shit. I was here when btcs were 5 bucks a piece. I paid 140 bucks to be a vendor and I sold shrooms for 3 months (jaxx). In my 9 years of selling before sr I never had a cop even look at me. The 3 months I sold on sr changed my life. 2 ford f 250s ran up on me while I was playing disc golf. Drove right through the park and right to me to put me in handcuffs for conspiracy to traffic narcotics. I got off with misdemeanor posession of marijuana. And that never happened before I started sending shit out so be careful if you live in a small town.
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Here in Australia we see some of the jail sentences the US counterparts get for dealing narcotics. They are incredibly harsh and I understand there will always be someone to take the place of someone getting busted but your police are very physical and the punishments even for just possession is completely different to here in Australia. Drug laws all over the world are quite harsh and the US is just amazing though , I don't have a sentence I can refer to regarding drug dealing convictions but I have seen a lot and they are very very long.
Doesn't it cross your mind at all? Caught once pretty much life over?
To goochihuh, pennyhatchmugs situation is typical for first time offenders. Normally you can plead down pretty far, but after that you're on the radar and looking at harsher sentences.
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Ive been selling weed and shrooms for 9 years. 14 months ago I found sr and started selling all kinds of shit. I was here when btcs were 5 bucks a piece. I paid 140 bucks to be a vendor and I sold shrooms for 3 months (jaxx). In my 9 years of selling before sr I never had a cop even look at me. The 3 months I sold on sr changed my life. 2 ford f 250s ran up on me while I was playing disc golf. Drove right through the park and right to me to put me in handcuffs for conspiracy to traffic narcotics. I got off with misdemeanor posession of marijuana. And that never happened before I started sending shit out so be careful if you live in a small town.
What did you do wrong? I mean to get caught?
Modzi
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People always getting busted at festivals here in Australia by the drug dogs. Operating online I fail to come to terms how so many mail packages at post offices so often would not raise attention. All exp post envelopes here in oz can be tracked to place of purchase....review cctv bang you are identified.
Slightly off topic but just so you know there are ways of procuring the exp post envelopes without going into the post office the same as it is also important to ensure you are posting said envelopes into post boxes not covered with shit loads of CCTV.
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Ive been selling weed and shrooms for 9 years. 14 months ago I found sr and started selling all kinds of shit. I was here when btcs were 5 bucks a piece. I paid 140 bucks to be a vendor and I sold shrooms for 3 months (jaxx). In my 9 years of selling before sr I never had a cop even look at me. The 3 months I sold on sr changed my life. 2 ford f 250s ran up on me while I was playing disc golf. Drove right through the park and right to me to put me in handcuffs for conspiracy to traffic narcotics. I got off with misdemeanor posession of marijuana. And that never happened before I started sending shit out so be careful if you live in a small town.
Does your small town have only one drop box an you kept putting packages in there every day with your fingerprints?
I don't see how SR can make this happen unless you weren't careful. Dealing online is not like dealing IRL I agree. One needs to be more careful. Doesn't seem like you were.
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Ive been selling weed and shrooms for 9 years. 14 months ago I found sr and started selling all kinds of shit. I was here when btcs were 5 bucks a piece. I paid 140 bucks to be a vendor and I sold shrooms for 3 months (jaxx). In my 9 years of selling before sr I never had a cop even look at me. The 3 months I sold on sr changed my life. 2 ford f 250s ran up on me while I was playing disc golf. Drove right through the park and right to me to put me in handcuffs for conspiracy to traffic narcotics. I got off with misdemeanor posession of marijuana. And that never happened before I started sending shit out so be careful if you live in a small town.
Does your small town have only one drop box an you kept putting packages in there every day with your fingerprints?
I don't see how SR can make this happen unless you weren't careful. Dealing online is not like dealing IRL I agree. One needs to be more careful. Doesn't seem like you were.
Lmao. I didn't even think it was worthy of responding to that guy; as clearly he failed to proceed with caution in his actions. But, I was thinking the EXACT same thing. :P
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As with anything, if you put enough time and effort into it the world can be yours..
Just IRL at the moment.. Have for many years.. Never had even the tiniest issue..
Festivals are great ,you just have to think out side of the box on that.. Plan ahead, pack well and take everything into account ahead of time..
I will be joining the SR vender community in time. Mostly just shrooms once I get up and growing again.. (had a contam take out my whole stock during my last move, spore prints, syringes everything!.. Dumb friends and their beer, sigh) Everything else that I get my hands on I tend to flip pretty fast locally and have to think WAY in advance if there is an event or festival coming up to ensure I have stock on hand to cover it and my local peeps.
I think the key, IRL or on the Road is to never get cocky, always keep an eye on the details ...IRL always know the person you are dealing to...At Festivals be aware of your surroundings, don't sell to some guy you just met who was asking around..Hang out for a while maybe even a day if its a long festival feel "them" out.. Most undercovers here in the states get board FAST .. If you just want to talk and hang out with them even for 15 to 20 mins most times they get edgy and will wonder off..
We almost never see drug dogs at events here, at least EDM events.. Some Rock events you will get some at the gates but that's not hard to by pass.. (find some dumbass that has been smoking weed in the parking lot and walk in next to him. The dogs go nuts for the guy thats been smoking and you just keep walking)
I have a lot of tricks and most I would never post on a forum, some are common sense others are trade secretes ;) Over all you have to be smart no matter where you are dealing. The sloppy people, the ones who are just looking to make a fast buck and the ones who lack the IQ points are the ones that always get caught..OR someone that fits all of those points , whom works for / deals with/ hangs out with someone that has their game down...Those are the ones to watch out for as they will take you down with them.
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Don't try to do both at once.
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People always getting busted at festivals here in Australia by the drug dogs. Operating online I fail to come to terms how so many mail packages at post offices so often would not raise attention. All exp post envelopes here in oz can be tracked to place of purchase....review cctv bang you are identified.
Unless one is shipping large boxes, domestic, there is no need to go into a post office. Proper postage, tracking that cant be linked to you, and blue boxes... That's all you need.
As crazy as it sounds, having a fear for the over-punishment incorporated into the laws here in America is exactly what leads one to make the right intelligent decisions; and think ahead. Anything a DEA agent would be trained on, most intelligent dealers train themselves on, and as such; can successfully operate 'side' businesses selling drugs for several years completely under the radar of the law. I would assume I'm not the only one who lives their life with confidence, and does not give anyone the impression of their under-the-table intent.
As for me, I would say there is nothing on my record if I had one, but I've never been arrested in my life, not for any reason. I have multiple aliases with all the proper documentation. The day I get printed, my prints will belong to whatever alias I get caught under; and I'll stick by that. But until then... I don't live my life in fear.
Badass! The institutions in place are not run by what many would consider extremely intelligent individuals. The drug market is strong and there are plenty of young and uneducated poor inner city folks to fuel the prison machine. People like you are the ones who really give consistency to the revolution.