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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: Artificial on May 07, 2013, 07:03 am
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So I finally got some pills, not many but it eventually got here, tad late.
But it had been opened by customs all the way to were the pills were but yet they left the opened for inspection however nothing was found and it was still shipped to me :s
Does this mean my address has been flagged ? as to the point they let it through so that I would still deliver to the address, like it seems pretty sus, considering the pills were in plain sight.
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So I finally got some pills, not many but it eventually got here, tad late.
But it had been opened by customs all the way to were the pills were but yet they left the opened for inspection however nothing was found and it was still shipped to me :s
Does this mean my address has been flagged ? as to the point they let it through so that I would still deliver to the address, like it seems pretty sus, considering the pills were in plain sight.
Do the pills look legit or do they look like they could have been replaced with an inert substance?
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Do the pills look legit or do they look like they could have been replaced with an inert substance?
They look legit, there the classic Nintendo pills so I doubt they would have replaced them haha but it just seemed so strange unless they just had a peek and thought it was nothing :/
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Hi Suggest that you are being watched, they have probably already alerted LE.
BE CAREFUL and eat them asap.
BTW aren't the Nintendos awesome!!!
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Hi Suggest that you are being watched, they have probably already alerted LE.
BE CAREFUL and eat them asap.
BTW aren't the Nintendos awesome!!!
Do you mean they could raid my house.. ? o_0
And yeah they are an amazing pill! Haha can't wait for the Lamborghini's to get mainstream on here :)
But yeah should I move all the drugs in the house to another location ? or.. what ? Scared now.
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Do the pills look legit or do they look like they could have been replaced with an inert substance?
They look legit, there the classic Nintendo pills so I doubt they would have replaced them haha but it just seemed so strange unless they just had a peek and thought it was nothing :/
It sounds okay but I honestly have no experience with a scenario such as this so can't help much more than advising you to stash the pills off your property as soon as possible, just in case. It's likely nothing, but I'll move the thread to the Shipping forum so it gets more exposure, and you'll have a better chance of getting some good advice there.
(You won't be able to post in the thread until you get to 50 posts but you'll be able to view responses.)
Libertas
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Hi guys,
I've moved this thread here in the hope that some of you can offer the OP better advice than he is likely to receive in the Newbie forum. Any constructive advice would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Libertas
EDIT: Forgot to mention that the OP can't reply here as he has less than 50 posts and is restricted to the Newbie forum.
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So I finally got some pills, not many but it eventually got here, tad late.
But it had been opened by customs all the way to were the pills were but yet they left the opened for inspection however nothing was found and it was still shipped to me :s
Does this mean my address has been flagged ? as to the point they let it through so that I would still deliver to the address, like it seems pretty sus, considering the pills were in plain sight.
Was it AQIS or Customs that opened it? I have had a package opened by AQIS and sent on sealed back up with Orange tape and they didn't find my M either? I think they only look for organic food type stuff as opposed to customs that check for illicits. I am sure if it was only a small amount like less than 10 they wouldn't send it on but would just confiscate it.
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PM sent friend
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Thanks guys. mdmafx, I've PM'd the OP with your reply and I will post his response here.
Libertas
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Response from the OP to mdmafx:
It was customs, it was sealed with Green, Opened by australian post for inspection by customs.
The package contained 10 Nintendo's which I believe were noticeable since the small bag containing them was open and inside that was the bag containing them.
Unless this was kinda some guy giving a warning to me from customs or there watching me I have no idea.
The Vendor was from UK
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Don't order to that address again in that case.
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Who is the vendor?
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I want to chime in here because this sounds very familiar to me. I shipped multiple 15 gram packs of MDMA to a single Australian address (not on the same day) and one also got opened. It looked like they used a ordinary envelope opener and then sealed it again with a big stroke of see trough tape. All subsequent packs arrived though but if you have the option to change addresses for future shipments I would definitely do that :)
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There is not a chance in hell that Custom's would allow illegal drugs to reach the recipient if the package was inspected IMO. Imagine if one of those pills ended up being responsible for a user becoming extremely sick or even dying and Customs allowed that to happen!! Yes, they may now be watching/monitoring your address for future packages and gathering intelligence on your activities but for 10 pills, they would have just seized them.
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Yeah chances are they didn't know what it was for some reason and just sent it on. Customs are weird here, but pretty sure at least that they never do controlled drops like in other countries, if they know what they are they should just confiscate them.
There is a chance they will be watching closer on future packages though, find sellers that specifically have good stealth methods to ship when buying from OS.
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You'll be fine, just hold off ordering to that address for a while.
10 pills won't have Peter Skyora bashing down your door at 7am, if he were going to they would have not sent through the gear.
Speaking from experience having known people who have had this stuff happen to them. They will probably log the pills and your name in the system and if you keep on getting mail picked up to that address under your name they'll come for a visit using this instance as the start of the initial time frame for your alleged importation of scheduled substances (this happened to someone) other than that you're fine...hell there's even that very slim chance you had an officer who just doesn't give a fuck.
My final piece of advice is to not order pills from OS if you live in Australia as most vendors stealth doesn't hold up to a good shakedown when it comes to them as you now know.
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I would guess that you are fine in this particular situation. If they were going to bust you they would have done so immediately, before you could get rid of them.
However, I would be extremely cautious in future as I can't see any plausible reason for them to let the pills through other than to wait and watch and try to catch bigger amounts for a better case.
Personally I'd order nothing to that name or address, or any other name listed as living at that address ever again.
They aren't stupid - they know what those were.
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You got lucky!
Customs are not legally allowed to let drugs pass through, if you haven't already been arrested, you are fine.
Your order had a brush with death, and still made it through. While you enjoy it, give a moment of silence to all the orders that weren't so lucky :(
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Believe it or not the exact same thing happened to me, with the same pills, but to a different country.
The "stealth" (and I use that word very lightly) had been slashed open and content viewed, but the pack was resealed with gold customs stamp and sent on.
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There is not a chance in hell that Custom's would allow illegal drugs to reach the recipient if the package was inspected IMO. Imagine if one of those pills ended up being responsible for a user becoming extremely sick or even dying and Customs allowed that to happen!! Yes, they may now be watching/monitoring your address for future packages and gathering intelligence on your activities but for 10 pills, they would have just seized them.
Ordinarily I wouldn't reply to your posts on here Wodozo because let's face it, we don't like each other, however, you should watch on YouTube the episode of Australian Drug Lords about the Adley brothers, and see just how much they will let through to watch people.
They let them take like 250,000 of them or something in a big sports bag, on a plane, opened the bags and took evidence, and then sent them on their way and let them be sold a Schoolies.
The hypocritical fucks!
However, this one seems odd I must say, but compared to them that's nothing and furthermore who knows, they may be waiting for him to order larger to nail him with something decent and use that as evidence at a later date!
- JWM
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Hi everyone,
Thanks for the replies here and for helping this new member out; it is much appreciated on both my part and his! Love this community! :)
Libertas
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There is not a chance in hell that Custom's would allow illegal drugs to reach the recipient if the package was inspected IMO. Imagine if one of those pills ended up being responsible for a user becoming extremely sick or even dying and Customs allowed that to happen!! Yes, they may now be watching/monitoring your address for future packages and gathering intelligence on your activities but for 10 pills, they would have just seized them.
Ordinarily I wouldn't reply to your posts on here Wodozo because let's face it, we don't like each other, however, you should watch on YouTube the episode of Australian Drug Lords about the Adley brothers, and see just how much they will let through to watch people.
They let them take like 250,000 of them or something in a big sports bag, on a plane, opened the bags and took evidence, and then sent them on their way and let them be sold a Schoolies.
The hypocritical fucks!
However, this one seems odd I must say, but compared to them that's nothing and furthermore who knows, they may be waiting for him to order larger to nail him with something decent and use that as evidence at a later date!
- JWM
JWM, let me clarify a few of your comments so the story is correct. Firstly, I believe you're referring to the Baggaley brothers, Nathan and Dru. I have never heard of the Adley brothers myself. Australian Drug Lords was a great show and I watched every episode religiously. The Richard Buttrose episode left me gobsmacked with the kilo blocks and $1.3 million he had stashed in his secret unit.
Whilst under surveillance, the Police watched Dru fly to Sydney carrying a sports bag. He caught a taxi to a smash repair shop where after a short stay, left the repair shop with with the sports bag now much bulkier, caught a taxi back to the airport and checked his sports bag luggage in. After Dru had boarded the flight and was on his way, Police had already seized his luggage and suspecting it contained drugs, opened it up. They found thousands of pills with a street value of over $250,000.
When Dru landed back in the Gold Coast, he discovered that his bag was missing and started to panic. Dru or Nathan never got the bag back and just wrote it off, even though they were told the Police must have it and suspected it may have been seized. Even after this incident, they continued to deal large quantities of pills. Each time a buyer made a purchase, the Police would stop them on a traffic stop and confiscate the pills they just purchased.
So the Police never let Dru Baggaley take the sports bag full of pills with him. He thought the bag was seized or stolen as it didn't show up when he arrived in the Gold Coast, but couldn't be certain. The Police seized all those pills and the pills bought by buyers who made subsequent purchases from Dru. It was only after phone intercepts suggested they were about to flood Schoolie's with their pills and the capture on video of Nathan actually conducting a big sale of pills, which Police were waiting months for, that they were finally arrested with 10 search warrants executed and the whole operation brought to a close. I think from memory that Nathan got around 9 years and Dru got 12 years.
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There is not a chance in hell that Custom's would allow illegal drugs to reach the recipient if the package was inspected IMO. Imagine if one of those pills ended up being responsible for a user becoming extremely sick or even dying and Customs allowed that to happen!! Yes, they may now be watching/monitoring your address for future packages and gathering intelligence on your activities but for 10 pills, they would have just seized them.
Ordinarily I wouldn't reply to your posts on here Wodozo because let's face it, we don't like each other, however, you should watch on YouTube the episode of Australian Drug Lords about the Adley brothers, and see just how much they will let through to watch people.
They let them take like 250,000 of them or something in a big sports bag, on a plane, opened the bags and took evidence, and then sent them on their way and let them be sold a Schoolies.
The hypocritical fucks!
However, this one seems odd I must say, but compared to them that's nothing and furthermore who knows, they may be waiting for him to order larger to nail him with something decent and use that as evidence at a later date!
- JWM
JWM, let me clarify a few of your comments so the story is correct. Firstly, I believe you're referring to the Baggaley brothers, Nathan and Dru. I have never heard of the Adley brothers myself. Australian Drug Lords was a great show and I watched every episode religiously. The Richard Buttrose episode left me gobsmacked with the kilo blocks and $1.3 million he had stashed in his secret unit.
Whilst under surveillance, the Police watched Dru fly to Sydney carrying a sports bag. He caught a taxi to a smash repair shop where after a short stay, left the repair shop with with the sports bag now much bulkier, caught a taxi back to the airport and checked his sports bag luggage in. After Dru had boarded the flight and was on his way, Police had already seized his luggage and suspecting it contained drugs, opened it up. They found thousands of pills with a street value of over $250,000.
When Dru landed back in the Gold Coast, he discovered that his bag was missing and started to panic. Dru or Nathan never got the bag back and just wrote it off, even though they were told the Police must have it and suspected it may have been seized. Even after this incident, they continued to deal large quantities of pills. Each time a buyer made a purchase, the Police would stop them on a traffic stop and confiscate the pills they just purchased.
So the Police never let Dru Baggaley take the sports bag full of pills with him. He thought the bag was seized or stolen as it didn't show up when he arrived in the Gold Coast, but couldn't be certain. The Police seized all those pills and the pills bought by buyers who made subsequent purchases from Dru. It was only after phone intercepts suggested they were about to flood Schoolie's with their pills and the capture on video of Nathan actually conducting a big sale of pills, which Police were waiting months for, that they were finally arrested with 10 search warrants executed and the whole operation brought to a close. I think from memory that Nathan got around 9 years and Dru got 12 years.
How many eps of Australian Drug Lords came out? I was told they only did one before cancelling the show because of bad ratings?
Wouldnt mind watching the rest if they are out..
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There is not a chance in hell that Custom's would allow illegal drugs to reach the recipient if the package was inspected IMO. Imagine if one of those pills ended up being responsible for a user becoming extremely sick or even dying and Customs allowed that to happen!! Yes, they may now be watching/monitoring your address for future packages and gathering intelligence on your activities but for 10 pills, they would have just seized them.
I'm not sure that this is entirely true. It doesn't make perfect sense but I know of a few cases where people have ordered drugs from online pharmacies and had their packages opened. Customs would seize some items (e.g., pain meds) but not others (e.g., benzos) even though both items are scheduled the same and require a prescription to import. I don't know if they aren't checking all the items but it is something to keep in mind.
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Hi Suggest that you are being watched, they have probably already alerted LE.
BE CAREFUL and eat them asap.
BTW aren't the Nintendos awesome!!!
It is good to be cautious but I would suspect if they were going to allow the drugs though then put you under surveillance then they wouldn't have taped up the package with customs tape and alerted you to the fact.
Seems like a odd scenario any way you look at it, take precautions but I suspect you just got lucky, either that or the Nintendo's you have did not test positive for an illegal substance, or the customs person was into clubbing and decided not to fuck with your stash, all of those scenarios are highly implausible by the way :-)
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This same thing happened to me and I have never been able to figure out what the deal is..
I had 5g of a 2Cx shipped to me in Aus from overseas. When it arrived it had been opened and taped closed with orange customs tape. There was a leaflet inside saying it had been opened by customs on a routine inspection but nothing had been removed. The product was all there.
At the time I cleaned house and wait a fortnight to see if I'd get a knock on the door. I never did, so I relaxed. This was around 12 months ago. Since then I have received multiple orders to the same address from overseas and none appear to have been opened. I have gone over and over this in my head and I feel like there are two possible scenarios playing out.
Either:
1. Customs checked my product and finding that it didn't test positive to any common drugs (coke, smack, amphs, MDMA etc) gave me the benefit of the doubt allowing that it could plausibly be a dietary supplement or something and released it to me. Under this scenario they may or may not have logged my address for extra attention of future mail...
Or:
2. On testing, customs were able to identify exactly what the product was and since then they have been recording items coming to my address. I wonder if its possible that customs can open packages and envelopes then reseal them so that they don't look like they've been opened. Under this scenario they will have been recording all the items I've purchased from abroad ever since the first item they opened, keeping records that would eventually be used in a prosecution.
I can build strong cases in my mind for each of these scenarios. I can also think of a whole bunch of reasons why each of these scenarios may not be happening.
Like.. If they intercept something they know to be a prohibited substance. They surely won't release it, they'd get the police involved and a warrant would be issued.. On the flip side.. Maybe if they think there's a possibility the person could be dealing, they decide to take a longer look at the person. They might release the package ao they dont spook the perpetrator, then, getting the cops involved they might start to look at bank accounts etc to see if they can build a stronger case rather than just nab them straight away for importing a prohibited substance..
If they can show that someone has been making multiple imports over a period of time, and accumulating unexplained amounts of money etc, then they can build a strong case to put that person away and make any prosecution stick..
Another thing I'm not sure about: are customs able to identify synthetics? Or just the common drugs?
This is a useful discussion.
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There is not a chance in hell that Custom's would allow illegal drugs to reach the recipient if the package was inspected IMO. Imagine if one of those pills ended up being responsible for a user becoming extremely sick or even dying and Customs allowed that to happen!! Yes, they may now be watching/monitoring your address for future packages and gathering intelligence on your activities but for 10 pills, they would have just seized them.
Ordinarily I wouldn't reply to your posts on here Wodozo because let's face it, we don't like each other, however, you should watch on YouTube the episode of Australian Drug Lords about the Adley brothers, and see just how much they will let through to watch people.
They let them take like 250,000 of them or something in a big sports bag, on a plane, opened the bags and took evidence, and then sent them on their way and let them be sold a Schoolies.
The hypocritical fucks!
However, this one seems odd I must say, but compared to them that's nothing and furthermore who knows, they may be waiting for him to order larger to nail him with something decent and use that as evidence at a later date!
- JWM
JWM, let me clarify a few of your comments so the story is correct. Firstly, I believe you're referring to the Baggaley brothers, Nathan and Dru. I have never heard of the Adley brothers myself. Australian Drug Lords was a great show and I watched every episode religiously. The Richard Buttrose episode left me gobsmacked with the kilo blocks and $1.3 million he had stashed in his secret unit.
Whilst under surveillance, the Police watched Dru fly to Sydney carrying a sports bag. He caught a taxi to a smash repair shop where after a short stay, left the repair shop with with the sports bag now much bulkier, caught a taxi back to the airport and checked his sports bag luggage in. After Dru had boarded the flight and was on his way, Police had already seized his luggage and suspecting it contained drugs, opened it up. They found thousands of pills with a street value of over $250,000.
When Dru landed back in the Gold Coast, he discovered that his bag was missing and started to panic. Dru or Nathan never got the bag back and just wrote it off, even though they were told the Police must have it and suspected it may have been seized. Even after this incident, they continued to deal large quantities of pills. Each time a buyer made a purchase, the Police would stop them on a traffic stop and confiscate the pills they just purchased.
So the Police never let Dru Baggaley take the sports bag full of pills with him. He thought the bag was seized or stolen as it didn't show up when he arrived in the Gold Coast, but couldn't be certain. The Police seized all those pills and the pills bought by buyers who made subsequent purchases from Dru. It was only after phone intercepts suggested they were about to flood Schoolie's with their pills and the capture on video of Nathan actually conducting a big sale of pills, which Police were waiting months for, that they were finally arrested with 10 search warrants executed and the whole operation brought to a close. I think from memory that Nathan got around 9 years and Dru got 12 years.
Yeah, that was what I meant, two gooses that had it all but yet still no idea. Just idiots IMO! You're right actually they just didn't arrest him because it was a "painful decision for the police to make but would have jeopardized the entire operation". But yeah, Baggely Addely, both shit names anyway same thing. You knew what I meant, it was a fair while ago I watched it.
They were shitty looking pills too, nothing like what we used to sell back in the day, my guys would have laughed at me if I tried to give them those.
Ours were ones like the yellow U's and blue K's, the penguins that would protrude from the pills, along with others like the camels, light green Mosters Inc pills and Rolex's that would all come out of the pills as opposed to stamped into them except the UK's and Zorro's and blue Zorros that were still absolutely filth.
Ours were always pharmaceutical grade though that were so clean and crisp and TBH, I haven't seen anything like them since and part of what got me back into selling after a couple of year break was so many of my friends were selling rubbish and fuck knows what to people and it was more as a precautionary measure to keep people safe with a premium product, as in REAL MDMA.
The sad thing is, people will put anything into their mouths without thinking, and I suspect over the years I was a dealer I probably saw millions go through mine and others hands and not one person was killed let alone made sick by what we moved. This was such a long time ago and as I said although I'm out of that whole scene now except for snooping on Silk Road, but the only things I've seen comparable to what we had are things like what XTCEXPRESS sell (when they decide to ship to people, they scam Auzzies).
When the market got flooded with all the shit ones like what these guys were selling, we gave up because the profit margins were no longer there because people wanted cheap shit instead of paying that little bit extra for quality and the cheap shit would sell quicker because people would need to eat 6 in a night or more as opposed to one or two of ours that were legit MDMA instead of k/speed/meth bombd mixed with MDMA like the horseshit cunts like this and others were selling.
I wouldn't have done anything with guys like this, they were idiots, but then I wouldn't do it for anyone now I find it much more enjoyable, safe and profitable being a professional gambler as I said, I took bitZino for 200BTC's off 10 within a few hours until they noticed the significant withdraw from one account then when I made another account they took the lot lol, I don't care though.
TBH, I don't take anything much anymore, but I enjoy this place for the gosspi so any LE out there, you're about a decade too late to catch me in anything and TBH I wouldn't know where to get them anymore anyway because our whole syndicate we had going is retired or at the very east some are and others have gone their separate ways. Although we were all over it once our main guy in Syndey named ***** moved back to Europe, although we could still get them, we all decided to give it up because as I said, the profit margins weren't worth it and the young ones coming up weren't smart enough to know how to play the game, you just need look at Shadh1, Buttholle or Ryan West to know what I mean, and I'm sure you do too. Now people will buy anything off people like the shit being sold by halfbaked or the PMA bombs that were killing cunts in QLD and the sad thing is, I don't think many people now below 25 even know what real MDMA is liek because all they've had is dog shit what amounts to more or less poison.
I've always believed it's immoral to sell someone K as E even let alone PMA or some shit, and the last thing I would do as I said is take something from someone in a club these days.
Fuck that, and for me the stress and the people, along with the enjoyment of the drug itself was long gone when I quit.
If I advise people these days I recommend the first 25 times they take it make sure they're special occasions because after that it loses it's magic and unless I was going to a rave (which at my age would be ridiculous now) I wouldn't bother with anything short of a gram or two of blow or some LSD that never lose their magic, again real LSD and mother of pearl blow, not what people pass off as blow around the streets like Butthole was selling. WHat a goon he was too, fucking grams when he had K'G's, fucking duckhead. As if you wouldn't have known that cunt was a cop who was taking to him like that... step back a minute, as if you would have met that cunt anyway.
- JWM