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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: chemdog on May 02, 2013, 03:09 pm
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Update 2: Heard from Edar. Didn't turn up, so we're putting this down to "breakage".
However, my definition of breakage is dropping a magazine on 4 month cured G13 and watching it explode. It made a mess, but it was fun cleaning up. :-)
All done here - please feel free to contact me with any questions or comments. Not that you would, but you are indeed welcome.
Much love to all.
Update: Full refund given. Not heard from Edar / Blufields today, so for all I know, he may even have got it. Who knows, but at this stage, I doubt it. Some teen in a post room somewhere will open an RM sack, find an envelope that is miles from where it's addressed, open it and get a cheesy whatsit surprise. Given the circumstances, this is my hope.
Oh, and to the comment I caught about our room stinking of cheese? The reason it doesn't smell of cheese or anything else actually is the reason I don't have money to buy loads of weed - I spent it all on a silent extraction unit and a carbon filter that is bigger than I am. :-D
Might get some pics up at some point. We'll see.
Namaste to all. +1 Karma to all.
What you give out will be returned to you seven fold.
Well. Maybe. :-)
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TL:DR - Buyer attempting to bully me into releasing refund before escrow even finishes, claiming some non-sense which has more holes than swiss cheese. RM lost my Special Delivery parcel for 6 fucking weeks, so don't start. You aren't involved in the logistics of domestic mail for two decades without learning that 99.9% of everything gets through, but some don't.
And no one gets far in the drug world without knowing when someone is trying to apply pressure quickly. Who stands to gain by such pressure? Anyway... I continue.
Hello all
You may know us as the happy-go-lucky Mr and Mrs who deal in psychedelics mostly and weed occasionally. If you have ever had a parcel from us or an interaction with us, you will know how we do things.
We are tree-lovin' hippies in disguise. And we like how that filters in down into our work ethic.
Which brings me to the subject matter.
Exactly one week ago, I bought a small quantity of Exodus Cheese from my dealer and grow-master/teacher. The idea was to split it here so I could effectively have my smoke "free"-ish - I'd still have to pony up a couple of BTC, but this was no big deal.
I need weed like other people need air. I don't drink and I have a very serious medical condition that mary jane is one of the few natural treatments for.
As a family, we are also struggling something chronic financially. I am overqualified, over-experienced, the lot, but the SR is one of the few places I can put money on our table.
So I was chuffed to bits when I found that the cheese had sold within hours of listing it. Along with another couple of items (all domestic UK - all large letter 1st class), I posted before last post on Friday last week.
Yesterday, I eventually login to the SR to find a barrage of abuse from the person intended to receive the weed. It has not gone down well... On a number of fronts.
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Message one:
blufields nothing yet mate when was it posted? 1 day
Reply:
Good morning
It was posted Friday 24th of April at 5pm, in time for the 6.30pm delivery.
All other packages were sent at the same time and have been confirmed arrived. Hopefully, it is just another of Royal Snails backlogs.
If it isn't, I can't offer a reship, as that was percy I sold.
It sucks and I hate to say it, but we're both going to have to wait it out.
My deepest apologies
CDS
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Messages 2 and 3:
blufields Hi
that old postman chestnut ? 19 hours read
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blufields Hi
Thats ok
just as long as it has been shipped properly as you know what posties are like and I that my addy aint being compromised
thanks man
My lengthy reply:
(Note: Me and the missus read the emails and we were quite gutted. If this guy is in the same boat, both medically and financially, as me, we want to do everything we can to help.)
Hi there
Well, I can tell you how it is packaged, but I cannot tell you if the address is compromised. The postman would either have had to have had the address marked as one receiving mail for the taking for some reason, or be superman with x-ray vision and a sniffer dogs nose on crack. :-)
1 - Weed is bagged into a standard kiddies lunch box-type ziplock bag
2 - Zip-lock bag is then heat sealed in vmPET Mylar - it is an extraordinarily efficient barrier, if you have not encountered it before. If you have, then you know what it is like.
3 - Each air tight mylar parcel is tested for air leaks, being re-sealed if necessary.
4 - It is then wiped down in alcohol
5 - The mylar package is placed into a large standard envelope and folded over into an asymmetrical quarter orientation
6 - A greetings card is inserted into the envelope structure and arranged in such a way that the card and envelope move and stick together as one unit
7 - The card unit is placed into a high quality self sealing jiffy bag, testing the step in part 6 to ensure that if the package was to be opened for any reason, all the inspector would initially see is a card with an envelope inside.
8 - A label is printed using the exact address provided in the order - it is copied and pasted each time.
9 - The package is double checked by the Mrs and tested with our envelope payment tester to ensure it will go through with no hitches on that front
10 - If step 9 is confirmed, one large letter 1st class stamp is applied and we aim to get it in the post same day if received before lunchtime.
Really, I don't know what else to say to you at this stage. RM have been known to have regional backlogs, but I cannot imagine they have one at the moment. I cannot remember where I sent your order to, as a whole bunch of other stuff went out the same day, so I do not even have a route to check.
I will work my butt off to help rectify this situation, but let me be clear. I am not a rich vendor. We are a struggling family and I have 0.09 btc in my account at the moment. If this were another place and another time, I would either just reship or fully refund. But it isn't, so I can't, and I hate that.
I bought that cheese to get me through some "issues" and sold the 1/8th to help pay for that. It is for that reason I cannot just send you some more or just go out and buy you some more btc or something. In my world view, I would *love* to do that.
But that is not your issue. Your issue is that you bought a product that didn't arrive. Assuming that I haven't sent it, which is where my responsibility exists as detailed in the above process we follow for every order, you want me to send the product or send the money back.
Since I sent the order on Friday afternoon before last post, I can only assume one of the following:
* Incorrect address supplied
* Sender or receiver is "marked" in some way
* Delayed somewhere in RM
* Lifted by the postman, as you have suggested
This is the first item I've had not arrive, and we've defeated the customs of the likes of Sweden, the USA and Canada with our packaging. We hate unethical business and scammers, so we are sworn against it. If we don't like the feeling we get from a particular order, we cancel it and apologise - no messing around and no fiddling. For us to win, we need people like you to win.
Not sure what to say now other than to please wait. If it comes to it, let it go to resolution. I could use the money, but I need my standards even more.
Please stay in contact and let me know as and when as to what happens.
Chemdog
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Message 4, moments later - Mrs now in tears. Mr not fucking happy.
aye sure man whatever, do I look fkin stupid.
whatever your problems are aint my problem mate... been on here too loooong .. you could do with the money ?? who couldnt.. free fuking money ...but not fking mine. you get me.
refund it asap or I will contact sr support and post this on the forums
get a grip mate if you aint got it dont list it. and stop scamming people. I guess your one of these 50% refunds sellers
what a joke & not even a good one. jokes on you mate
refund asap.
My Reply:
Just to acknowledge your message. We'll have to stick to SR operating procedure and wait it out. I want you to have all your weed and I want to have all the money escrowed. The best chance both of us have of this happening is to wait. I don't like it and I'm pretty sure you won't either, but that is how it stands.
The stupid thing is we were going to get proof of postage, but not because of your parcel - your stats are great. I took an order from someone and it looked wrong. We fulfilled anyway - divine comedy I guess.
I'm going to make a wild stab in the dark here. You write like you speak in your accent and I only sent one parcel to Scotland on Friday.
One thing stood out to me about that address label - how the first line and first number of the second line were structured:
1-1
1 somewhere land
I knew from your stats that you had done this enough for that probably not to be a mistake. If it was an error somehow, by either party, perhaps that information would help you locate it if it has ended up at a nearby property?
Really hoping RM bring you some love today.
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The final barrage of shite:
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I want my refund back for the so called exodus cheese. 13 minutes unread delete
blufields guess what .nothing again how unsuprising yeh thats was my drop off and nothing again I know the posties mate( I used to be one) and their aint been nothing sent
you got any tracking ?
you can refund it from escrow without waiting on the 50% refund mate ? be reporting you too
nice try 2 hours unread
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blufields so do I
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I have yet to reply, but I want this here and in public before it goes any further.
I feel we are being manipulated and bullied by an established community member, one which tried to do the same when I first joined. Both loveless/sselevol and raistlan talked this over with me when it kicked back then and told me not to worry. Since this "gentleman" had yet to make a purchase, I didn't.
Now he has, I'm more ticked off at the insinuations. It would take one look at our feedback to know two things:
* We are amazing at what we do
* We normally would be considered an easy target for people wanting to use the pressure of our own feedback score against us
Before I retort to all of the distorted thinking in public, this is going here.
I'm really very sorry to have to do this, but needs must. Whether buyer or seller, stay in escrow.
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bluefields aka edar aka UKK420 (another vendor account, check the ratings, almost as bad as his grasp of english and joolz
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I've been cordial up until now. But since this is nearly 1 week of opiate WD and I REALLY would like that cheese myself right about now....
Fuck it.
blufields Hi
that old postman chestnut ? 19 hours read
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Never had it done to me and I've never done it to someone. It makes my skin crawl.
just as long as it has been shipped properly as you know what posties are like
Followed by the incredibly well thought out:
thats was my drop off and nothing again I know the posties mate( I used to be one)
So, which is it? Are you a postie? Were you one? Are you part of the postie communal hive mind that all retarded people who think they can re-grind an axe they sharpened a year ago belong to, or are you just a drunken twat who now has to continue to apply pressure, regardless of whether the weed turns up or not now, purely because of your greater addiction to self-righteousness? Which is it? Tell me?
You have amazing stats - and a shit attitude.
do I look fkin stupid.
We can't see you, so we don't know, but everyone who has read this is now hazarding a huge guess that you probably do, purely from how you interact with other people.
whatever your problems are aint my problem mate...
I agree. I said as much and I also said why I shared some background with you. I want to work WITH people if stuff goes wrong, not go straight to DEFCON 1.
You, however, I do not wish to work with. I know the feelings mutual.
refund it asap or I will contact sr support and post this on the forums
Here is an adjusted version of ALL the above, just for you to comprehend a little better:
No. I've already contacted SR support and posted on the forums. Go back to your Special Brew or Frosty Jack.
and stop scamming people.
Find me one person. I didn't get 100 feedback with no refunds and no reships by selectively scamming over an 1/8th. That shit is not worth it. If it sat well with me, I'd join my buddies in the identity theft game.
I guess your one of these 50% refunds sellers
Fuck me. You hit the nail on the head. All of those refunds and reships I have NEVER done and all of those 5 out of 5 feedback scores must be because I'm a 50% refund seller...
what a joke & not even a good one. jokes on you mate
The irony here in the context of the banter is so funny, it utterly fails the human race.
I'm sorry UK community - I'm about to lose my 100 rating. And that sucks, but not more than compromising myself or the rules of SR.
Putting this here for community accountability. Blufields had good stats, but was very aggressive. I am willing to work with SR support to resolve, but only through the escrow system.
That is all.
And thank you, for listening. (Morethan Freeman)
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He seems to have a lot of packages go missing. He's reported 'selective scammers' a bunch of times. I suspect his postie is a selective thief.
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karma ;)
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He seems to have a lot of packages go missing. He's reported 'selective scammers' a bunch of times. I suspect his postie is a selective thief.
"his postie is a selective thief."
I love the fesiciousness!
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In edar's defense somewhat, when I ordered from the greenfields vendor account, whilst it was delayed and communication was poor/misleading, I DID receive a good quality product after about a week. So whatever issues he has with other people, I got what I paid for.
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So, maybe edar is trying to hate because he finds this chemdog dude/team a threat? Classic vendor backstabbing faggot shit.
If that's not the case, then I'll be damned.
Neg me, go for it.
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karma ;)
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karma ;)
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So, maybe edar is trying to hate because he finds this chemdog dude/team a threat? Classic vendor backstabbing faggot shit.
If that's not the case, then I'll be damned.
Neg me, go for it.
This is exactly it. Edar's current account is joolz, look at the number of threads he has created on calling vendors scammers but then his vendor account is selling stuff he has bought from them
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I have seen H vendors pull stunts similar to this, actually.. those got quite intricate and I hope those behaviors don't resurface in the thread over there.
Edar, you should have been more patient with the vendor. It's a bit of fucking weed, dude. Speaking of, it looks like you got some purps lying around judging by your vendor page. Why would you buy a joints worth of weed that is being sold in just about every fucking London Estate, on SR for fucks sake??
Like chemdog said, swiss cheese, yo. Mad holes. I bet your flat smells like old buckfast bottles, cutters choice and exodus cheese right now you intolerable geezer.
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karma ;)
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karma ;)
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karma ;)
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So out of all his transactions, 1 did not make it. Unfortunately that was yours' Incidentally, of all his customers there was one who had multiple vendor accounts and gave himself false feedback. One who probably has multiple handles on the forum and talks to himself to promote certain products/ illustrate the voices in his head. Weird coincidence.
Seeing your name come up I know to expect some whining, unintelligible bullshit and you never fail to let me down. You never leave a normal review for a reputable vendor and give thanks. Even if your claim turned out to be genuine, no vendor gives a fuck about some pikey cunt. Street game is for you mate. Or go back to scamming as a vendor on a new account.
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Also my first ever order on SR was with chemdog. Only reason I chose him was his profile page description. Could tell his passion and felt I could trust him. The unkown commie by his own admission was commercial but actually pleasant enough smoke for the value. He then went away for fuck knows how long but shouldn't be held to ransom. Sad thing is given the length of his response if he had any money/weed, I reckon he woulda just sent it out no questions. Hope you get some nice shroom grows chem.
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karma ;)
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I have seen H vendors pull stunts similar to this, actually.. those got quite intricate and I hope those behaviors don't resurface in the thread over there.
Edar, you should have been more patient with the vendor. It's a bit of fucking weed, dude. Speaking of, it looks like you got some purps lying around judging by your vendor page. Why would you buy a joints worth of weed that is being sold in just about every fucking London Estate, on SR for fucks sake??
Like chemdog said, swiss cheese, yo. Mad holes. I bet your flat smells like old buckfast bottles, cutters choice and exodus cheese right now you intolerable geezer.
I bought it for myself thinking why not,take me back to my old luton brigade days ...aint that right Dpr ;)
you see these rotten monkies everyday on my estate cooking up a scam ;) fuking shame theyd be good at whatever they done but have chosen a life of monkey jive talking. aka ghostwalker
Maybe so. I just figured it would be a bit easier to hit up some "rudeboi" for a score. At least if he fucks with you, you can toss him off the 10th story (If you live in a tower block, of course). Monkey jive talking, aye? I have no idea what you are on about. Sometimes I don't agree with ya, but you have your moments when you say the most wack shit and it makes me laugh. Mostly because I imagine it being spoken in a Cockney accent.
Speaking of estates.. Mind you, I don't live in one. I grew up in an American equivalent type of setting though. It was rough growing up there, lots of drugs (weed,crack,heroin).. I mean fucking rampant. Single moms hooking up with the crack dealers, the dealers smacking up their girlfriends in broad daylight while they are both coked out smashed off malt liquor, etc. Bedlam. I made it out "ok", I guess.
I don't know what life is like in a UK Council Estate (A relatively deprived one), because as much as I'd like to visit one.. I have a strange feeling my welcome would be worn out pretty quick. Unless I had a huge yardie tour guide, otherwise I think I would experience some issues within the hour.
It's no wonder that so many of the estates have mad problems. First off, the brutalist type architecture. THE CREEPIEST FORM OF SOCIAL ENGINEERING I HAVE SEEN. The folks who were first in charge of the Council House scheme, and had em erected, knew EXACTLY what kind of problems would occur after a few years of having the place full of folks. All by design. However, some of the greatest music is made in some of those blocks (I'm a huge UKG and DNB fan)
I firmly believe they set those places up they way they did, was so that the people who lived there for the most part would be fucking miserable. Which leads to the obvious issues.. Depression, drug abuse, domestic violence. That shit happens everywhere, yes.
But when you stick thousands of people in a huge tower block, or U shaped type of Council Estate, it doesn't sound like the kind of places that breed winners for the most part. I have been to Goven, in Scotland.. And just the vibe there was enough to give me the heebie-jeebs. That's the closest I have been to any sort UK griminess.
Wow, I really got off topic.
TL;DR: I guess I am just trying to diffuse the situation?
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Just an update for all interested parties.
Edar and myself came to an understanding. I said that, if after a full week (Fri post, so Sat - Sat) the envelope has not arrived, I would hit the "not arrived" button.
I've heard nothing from Mr Blufields today, but I have pressed the button as promised and a full refund has been issued.
We have come to an understanding - if we ever see the changes necessary in this country, we will share a pint. And definitely an F'off sized bifter of something cheesy. :-)
Just to underscore and provide some justification for my actions here:
* If I or the Mrs feel under difficult pressure communicated via PM or otherwise over our business, you can guarantee we will fight our corner. We are not an easy target.
* Hence, in an anonymous community that exists purely based on the knowledge of computer security ninjas and the trust, rep, word and feedback of others, the only way to nip potential problems in the bud is to go straight to your community and your supporters with as much evidence as possible.
* On the other hand, as it says on our vendor page (which I've got to update amongst nine million other things I've got to do), we want a win/win for everyone. If there is a problem, approach us, be personable, continue to communicate (without directed emotion from said frustration of problem) and we'll get to a solution somehow. I'm known as a people pleaser, but I am not a door mat. Neither do I expect ANY of our customers to be, including Edar.
* Clearly on this occasion, it simply has just vanished, for whatever reason. It does happen. I've "interacted" many times with various areas of the postal system and the shit you find lying around is amazing. We aim to deliver next day (has been a bit difficult with the WD's of late, but well on the mend now), but I get tetchy if stuff I order does not turn up quickly too, so I utterly get the frustration and the only way of doing anything with it for most of us is to vent like hell at the potential suspects responsible. In an anonymous supply chain, the anonymous source is probably most suspect is also the general reasoning, and after the likes of Tony76 or whatever the hell he was called, I can understand that too.
FINAL POINT: I have fucking amazing eyesight, hearing, non-verbal reasoning and emotional IQ and, when I get emotionally involved with something, an amazing memory. I am not saying this to boast - it is very much a curse as much as any blessing. I want you to understand something:
We DO NOT EVER keep addresses. I can remember the first 3 digits of the address and the region. That's it. With a week where all my emotions came flooding back, I'm surprised I can't remember more.
The great thing is this: Since I've been detoxing, I've been on a large, erm, "variety" of pharmaceuticals. This isn't my style, but it makes OPM WD very easy. The side effects of this?
This whole two week period will be almost deleted from my mind within a week of stopping my Etizloam and a whole bunch of weed.
This is scary. The amount of stuff the Mrs is telling me to remember or do, and I'm sat nodding away at her like "yeah, of course, I'm totally in tune with.... errrr... what is she talking about?? fuck... just keep nodding and smiling". Don't like that - need your mind sharp as razors, cos we're carrying blinding carts with phazors, trip over that shit and tie your laces, running from the hips and the sky setting the pace.
That last bit is for MC Haberdasher. :-)
So, I hope some balance is restored with this. I apologise to anyone and all offended by my words.
On the flip side, thank you for all the kind words uttered in this thread. To those who contacted me directly, I will get back to you.
Namaste to all.
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Erm, one more thing...
None of the imagery created about me here by others is really very accurate, although there are some interesting assumptions.
You know nothing of me other than my words and actions and a pseudo-anonymous name, and neither I you. But we're all reflections of each other anyway hey.
For the record, like many people, I had an incident a number of years ago and gained a prescription for MST 60mg. Lots of em.
They helped the pain immensely, but one day I thought, "holy fuck, this feels goooooood".
And it just continued.
For reasons I cannot explain on even this anonymous forum, there is a juncture of physical and circumstantial reasons why I don't want to and cannot enjoy opiates of any sort at the moment.
I've never had a morph needle in my arm, but I've helped plenty of people who have. No judgement - only acceptance and accountability.
I am consoling myself eating whole forearm sized bars of dairy milk. Not quite the same, but it kicks.
So, yeah. Just thought I'd add that in there.
CDS out. Namaste.
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Hi, just reading through this glad you guys sorted everything out, edar has not made life easy for himself here but I dont think he would ever scam vendors.
I think there is one thing that needs changing here with you chemdog and thats you and your wife seem to take things way to personally, I honestly would never dream of getting this worked up over money, its not worth it, life is far to short, when your old and grey non of this will matter.
Stand up for your self sure but do it in a slicker, more professional way, you should never let emotion rule your mind, always think logically, logic is your best friend.
I dont judge but some do and some will think easy target because of the life stories you have told us, fair enough you want to tell us your not a junkie and I believe you but you dont have to explain yourself to any one here.
Be more assertive and stay happy, dont be a victim of your emotions :)
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he,s a good lad really .
good luck and take care ;)
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Glad to see everything is kosher.
Big up.
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you keeping and giving out details from previous buyers mate ? & got other vendors accounts ,they named them.
just got a pm from another buyer saying it was you who gave out my details & you did it to them too :o
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well they aint denying it with the pms I have forwarded
come on Sr this guys a dangerous bastard >:( threatening to GRASS to the police :o
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chemdogsurise and sonni are both the same person >:( ...they keep all details . : '( threatened my mates uncle & a good few folk have said the same thing?
Ive Reported the dangerous little bastard.. also not my business but heard thru pms he,s / they are raving junkies , just thought Id add that message , who knows :'( but the same names keep coming up)
thanks all for the pms keep them coming. ;D
Beware
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Do you have evidence of any of these claims, joolz? If so, have you provided that evidence to SR Support?
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Do you have evidence of any of these claims, joolz? If so, have you provided that evidence to SR Support?
yes and yes.
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Do you have evidence of any of these claims, joolz? If so, have you provided that evidence to SR Support?
They dont give a shit :D chemdogsunrise is a grass guess youve heard of these report too Sc
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Do you have evidence of any of these claims, joolz? If so, have you provided that evidence to SR Support?
They dont give a shit :D chemdogsunrise is a grass guess youve heard of these report too Sc
Actually, being the one who investigated your claims and advised you to stop inflaming things on the forums so as we could conduct the investigation properly - and to stop messaging us over 25 times every hour with alleged "quotes" from messages that did not exist - I can state that we do indeed "give a shit". We take all accusations of threats incredibly seriously, and in this case, your claims are completely unfounded.
Libertas
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Do you have evidence of any of these claims, joolz? If so, have you provided that evidence to SR Support?
They dont give a shit :D chemdogsunrise is a grass guess youve heard of these report too Sc
Actually, being the one who investigated your claims and advised you to stop inflaming things on the forums so as we could conduct the investigation properly - and to stop messaging us over 25 times every hour with alleged "quotes" from messages that did not exist - I can state that we do indeed "give a shit". We take all accusations of threats incredibly seriously, and in this case, your claims are completely unfounded.
Libertas
"quotes" from messages that did not exist
what a load of bollocks
so I made it all up ;D i sent myself those messages ..lol
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I will have your uncles mate murdered if you dont delete the messages. Last warning!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/32842c5427
Oh and this one too Lib ..so what you saying .I sent this to myself lol :D
Dont try to scam me. Im not stupid! I saved screenshots of your buyer stats and I have your mates address! Im contacting authorities and I will send them the screenshots! Better hide your drugs. Police are coming soon mate.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/32842c5427
and hes still here , whys that then Lib if you take it so seriously lol dont you believe me :D
and your saying you cant buy reports?
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Oh and this one too Lib ..so what you saying .I sent this to myself lol :D
It would seem so, yes.
and hes still here , whys that then Lib if you take it so seriously lol
He's here because your claims are completely unfounded. You didn't listen to one thing I said in the messages during the course of the investigation, so I will not be engaging with you further on it.
Libertas
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so you are saying I made it up lol Just one question why ?
you wanna see it from my sr accout then if that helps but it wont
you aint gona do jack shit anyway 8) so just tell the truth he pays for a monthly data list and you know it. guess I made that up too
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so you are saying I made it up lol Just one question why ?
I have no idea why you would make it up, joolz.
you wanna see it from my sr accout then if that helps but it wont
you aint gona do jack shit anyway 8) so just tell the truth he pays for a monthly data list and you know it. guess I made that up too
A "monthly data list"? I don't know where you pulled that from, but implying that I "know it", and thus would be complacent in allowing something like that to occur, is absurd. This is the last post I am making in relation to your ridiculous claims on all fronts and you will be ignored by me here on the forums in future.
Libertas
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so you are saying I made it up lol Just one question why ?
you wanna see it from my sr accout then if that helps but it wont
you aint gona do jack shit anyway 8) so just tell the truth he pays for a monthly data list and you know it. guess I made that up too
So there you have it, investigation found zero evidence of vendor wrongdoing.
Joolz I would not want to hazard a guess as to what your motivations are for the things that you do, from my perspective you just seem to like creating as much drama as possible for any issue you decide to latch onto.