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Title: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: heatcheck on April 08, 2013, 04:36 am
I have had over 10 successful orders to my address so far and have not been worried about them not showing up. But as with every order, I like to err on the side of caution. I am about to place multiple orders at once and was wondering if anyone had any reason not to do this.

I am being overly paranoid, right? Shouldn't make a difference as all the packages are from different vendors and won't look the same.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: curiositymatrix on April 08, 2013, 04:59 am
The risk factor doesn't seem any higher, except for if one gets intercepted, you might lose them all, and get nailed on all of them at once (harder to claim that 3 different people randomly mailed you drugs at once)

I've had successful mulch-deliveries, sometimes simultaneous, but only in situations / to addresses that it wouldn't seem conspicuous.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: namuld on April 08, 2013, 06:35 am
If all your vendors ship domestically I don't see any problem with receiving multiple packages. If they are international shipments then I would split that to two groups: 1 being if they ship with business return addresses, 2 being if they ship with personal addresses. Receiving lots of international mail from businesses might seem a little odd but it's still a business so whatever; but lots of international mail from personal addresses might raise an eyebrow or two. Personally, I like to limit my packs to 3-4 spread out across 1 month
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: aussiepp on April 08, 2013, 12:23 pm
I wouldn't worry about it.
I think it would only get sus if you used different names for the package.
I've had multiple packages arrive the same day with no trouble.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 08, 2013, 09:32 pm
Firstly when you say "orders to my address" I sincerely hope you mean your anonymous drop address that is in no way linked to you someone you know?

If it is to your home or friends address then placing multiple orders to the same address is a bad fucking idea IMHO. It concerns me when I read posts like this only to see others posting replies like "yeah it'll be fine mate go for it". When it comes to individuals liberty I would invite others to seriously consider the advice they dish out freely on this forum like we are doing nothing illegal here.

Also if those orders you speak of are coming o/s you can add trafficking to your potential list of charges, I don't know what country you live in but where I come from LE do not just brush that shit off, then send your ass to jail. You may be able to talk your way out of one order but you try using plausible deniability as a defense if you have 5.

Please be careful, we are not playing games on here.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: strongxxx on April 09, 2013, 08:11 am
So I was to create a thread for multiple orders to the same address at one time and i founded this.

Firstly when you say "orders to my address" I sincerely hope you mean your anonymous drop address that is in no way linked to you someone you know?

If it is to your home or friends address then placing multiple orders to the same address is a bad fucking idea IMHO. It concerns me when I read posts like this only to see others posting replies like "yeah it'll be fine mate go for it". When it comes to individuals liberty I would invite others to seriously consider the advice they dish out freely on this forum like we are doing nothing illegal here.

Also if those orders you speak of are coming o/s you can add trafficking to your potential list of charges, I don't know what country you live in but where I come from LE do not just brush that shit off, then send your ass to jail. You may be able to talk your way out of one order but you try using plausible deniability as a defense if you have 5.

Please be careful, we are not playing games on here.

In my case im waiting too. Like 3 packages in this week. Do you say that shipping to the real address with my real name is bad?

What do you advise? A house random with random name? Less packages and more quantity? Know address wih random name?

Sorry for the apologies, we are trying to keep on.

Regards.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: thelovedragon on April 09, 2013, 08:22 am
Firstly when you say "orders to my address" I sincerely hope you mean your anonymous drop address that is in no way linked to you someone you

If I may address you directly, kind moderator sir.
Would you care to share, with the  plebeian population of this forum, how the wise veterans of the silken pathways, such as yourself, go about obtaining and managing one of these anonymous drop addresses?
Any and all tips are greatly appreciated.

humbly yours,

thelovedragon
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 09, 2013, 10:56 am
Firstly when you say "orders to my address" I sincerely hope you mean your anonymous drop address that is in no way linked to you someone you

If I may address you directly, kind moderator sir.
Would you care to share, with the  plebeian population of this forum, how the wise veterans of the silken pathways, such as yourself, go about obtaining and managing one of these anonymous drop addresses?
Any and all tips are greatly appreciated.

humbly yours,

thelovedragon

I am happy to help but we do not discuss openly here in plain sight and a lot depends on what country you reside in, if you live in my country I can most certainly help you get sorted out with a good system.

PM me if you want to ask more...
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 10, 2013, 09:20 am
So I was to create a thread for multiple orders to the same address at one time and i founded this.

Firstly when you say "orders to my address" I sincerely hope you mean your anonymous drop address that is in no way linked to you someone you know?

If it is to your home or friends address then placing multiple orders to the same address is a bad fucking idea IMHO. It concerns me when I read posts like this only to see others posting replies like "yeah it'll be fine mate go for it". When it comes to individuals liberty I would invite others to seriously consider the advice they dish out freely on this forum like we are doing nothing illegal here.

Also if those orders you speak of are coming o/s you can add trafficking to your potential list of charges, I don't know what country you live in but where I come from LE do not just brush that shit off, then send your ass to jail. You may be able to talk your way out of one order but you try using plausible deniability as a defense if you have 5.

Please be careful, we are not playing games on here.

In my case im waiting too. Like 3 packages in this week. Do you say that shipping to the real address with my real name is bad?

What do you advise? A house random with random name? Less packages and more quantity? Know address wih random name?

Sorry for the apologies, we are trying to keep on.

Regards.

A lot depends on which country you are in, some countries like the US link names to addresses so if you use a fake name or the name of a previous occupant the mail service may not deliver the mail or they may redirect it.

I have had a lot of people PM me after I posted in this thread asking for advise, I should make it clear I am no authority on setting up safe drop addresses in countries all over the world, I only really know some options for my own country.

Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: maxhavelaar on April 11, 2013, 02:56 am
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A lot depends on which country you are in, some countries like the US link names to addresses so if you use a fake name or the name of a previous occupant the mail service may not deliver the mail or they may redirect it.
How does the US link names to addresses, is this link checked when the address is scanned by computer? On what register is that name/address based, in the Netherlands each city keeps a registration of it's residents and everybody has a registered address, but i thought this was not the case in the US.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: heatcheck on April 11, 2013, 06:19 pm
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A lot depends on which country you are in, some countries like the US link names to addresses so if you use a fake name or the name of a previous occupant the mail service may not deliver the mail or they may redirect it.
How does the US link names to addresses, is this link checked when the address is scanned by computer? On what register is that name/address based, in the Netherlands each city keeps a registration of it's residents and everybody has a registered address, but i thought this was not the case in the US.

I'm quite sure in many cases, the government does not link people to addresses.  Let's say, for example, the case of a large shared house. Let's say 20 people in it. Every semester at University, the occupancy of this house changes. Sometimes people living there do not even sign leases. There is no way that anyone outside of the people around that shared house would know who is there.

Even then, in a not-shared house by university, the residents could also change on a semester basis. Somebody subletting a room, is signing a contract with the person on the lease. That person would not be known to be living there except by the people in that house (or I guess people he knows.)

The gov't does link you to your permanent address though. The one that is on your drivers license. Or the one you use to file for gov't support. That would be noted. But, if you move and don't update your license (or tell the post office to forward old mail etc) you could sort of stay off the grid. At least in my evaluation of this.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: chil on April 11, 2013, 06:42 pm
I have no problem with doing so, as long as the orders won't come from the same countries and I hadn't received a customs letter. I'm at 72 out of 73 successful orders so far.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 12, 2013, 09:20 am
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A lot depends on which country you are in, some countries like the US link names to addresses so if you use a fake name or the name of a previous occupant the mail service may not deliver the mail or they may redirect it.
How does the US link names to addresses, is this link checked when the address is scanned by computer? On what register is that name/address based, in the Netherlands each city keeps a registration of it's residents and everybody has a registered address, but i thought this was not the case in the US.

I am not sure to be honest, it is just what I have read many times on the forums so maybe someone from the US can speak to this with a greater degree of certainty??
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: pkizenko98 on April 12, 2013, 10:34 am
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A lot depends on which country you are in, some countries like the US link names to addresses so if you use a fake name or the name of a previous occupant the mail service may not deliver the mail or they may redirect it.
How does the US link names to addresses, is this link checked when the address is scanned by computer? On what register is that name/address based, in the Netherlands each city keeps a registration of it's residents and everybody has a registered address, but i thought this was not the case in the US.

I am not sure to be honest, it is just what I have read many times on the forums so maybe someone from the US can speak to this with a greater degree of certainty??

I live in the U.S. currently and names are linked to addresses.  In fact you are linked to every address you have ever resided at.  This information is primarily used for identification and for credit purposes.  The theory is that the longer you are at an address the more stable and reliable a person you are, at least when it comes to credit.  This is what they claim this information is primarily used for.  This is how "finder" sites can locate individuals by simply entering a name!
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 12, 2013, 10:47 am
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A lot depends on which country you are in, some countries like the US link names to addresses so if you use a fake name or the name of a previous occupant the mail service may not deliver the mail or they may redirect it.
How does the US link names to addresses, is this link checked when the address is scanned by computer? On what register is that name/address based, in the Netherlands each city keeps a registration of it's residents and everybody has a registered address, but i thought this was not the case in the US.

I am not sure to be honest, it is just what I have read many times on the forums so maybe someone from the US can speak to this with a greater degree of certainty??

I live in the U.S. currently and names are linked to addresses.  In fact you are linked to every address you have ever resided at.  This information is primarily used for identification and for credit purposes.  The theory is that the longer you are at an address the more stable and reliable a person you are, at least when it comes to credit.  This is what they claim this information is primarily used for.  This is how "finder" sites can locate individuals by simply entering a name!

Thanks pkizenko98

+1 for you
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: pkizenko98 on April 12, 2013, 11:25 am
Gracious Senor.  Right back at ya!
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: heatcheck on April 12, 2013, 06:57 pm
I live in the U.S. currently and names are linked to addresses.  In fact you are linked to every address you have ever resided at.  This information is primarily used for identification and for credit purposes.  The theory is that the longer you are at an address the more stable and reliable a person you are, at least when it comes to credit.  This is what they claim this information is primarily used for.  This is how "finder" sites can locate individuals by simply entering a name!

Again, like I said before. I don't think this is always true. It is in the case of a permanent address. But using the example of a college student at University, they would have a different, temporary address, from their registered permanent one (most likely their parents home).

If you put in their name on a finder site, the address that will come up is most likely the permanent one.

There are certainly cases where an address can be unlinked to a name. Though, it would probably seem that most of the time the name is linked.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: yodude420 on April 12, 2013, 07:19 pm
so how dangerous is it to have o/s stuff mailed to your house/po box?  ive been at it a while, received 25 or 30 orders, only 6 or 7 of them domestic, i currently have 2 o/s no-shows, no letter, and a decent sized pack is 1 day late.  You think I should be worried?
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: b0lixtrader on April 12, 2013, 07:21 pm
Really depends on what kind of purchase the 2 no shows were.  I mean I'd still chill out from ordering over seas to that P.O. box if they were very recent.

Also are you sure the sellers just didn't send it?  Always could be a possibility.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: wavelength on April 12, 2013, 07:29 pm
lol you know i dont mean to discount a mods advice, but ive gotten away with getting multiple orders at the same time on multiple occasions.
paranoia is an aspect of evolution in my opinion. if you are always super careful chances are things will work out for you, BUT......

the goal of every vendor here is to send LEGIT looking packages... if they are legit looking packages, why the fuck would they get searched?

i dont think there is a reason to worry but i personally wouldnt order multiple packages from OUT of your country at one time, because customs are going to see your name multiple times and like someone said earlier, if one gets caught then everything coming in right after it will probably get caught too.

 ::)

Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: b0lixtrader on April 12, 2013, 07:39 pm
lol you know i dont mean to discount a mods advice, but ive gotten away with getting multiple orders at the same time on multiple occasions.
paranoia is an aspect of evolution in my opinion. if you are always super careful chances are things will work out for you, BUT......

the goal of every vendor here is to send LEGIT looking packages... if they are legit looking packages, why the fuck would they get searched?

i dont think there is a reason to worry but i personally wouldnt order multiple packages from OUT of your country at one time, because customs are going to see your name multiple times and like someone said earlier, if one gets caught then everything coming in right after it will probably get caught too.

 ::)
I too have ordered multiple packages to the same drop more than once.  The key is obviously not to do it every week of the month and to do it with sellers you know have good packaging.  Still it makes sense that it is a bigger risk involved but the game we play in is a gamble it self, just be smart and be prepared when shit hits the fan.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: eerva on April 12, 2013, 08:14 pm
lol you know i dont mean to discount a mods advice, but ive gotten away with getting multiple orders at the same time on multiple occasions.
paranoia is an aspect of evolution in my opinion. if you are always super careful chances are things will work out for you, BUT......

the goal of every vendor here is to send LEGIT looking packages... if they are legit looking packages, why the fuck would they get searched?

i dont think there is a reason to worry but i personally wouldnt order multiple packages from OUT of your country at one time, because customs are going to see your name multiple times and like someone said earlier, if one gets caught then everything coming in right after it will probably get caught too.

 ::)

I don't think SSBD was saying that you couldn't "get away with it." Obviously, from this thread, several people have successfully done parallel orders to the same address.

With that said, the risk goes up. That's not debatable. If one package gets intercepted, the rest of your incoming packages would be suspect. With only a single package, you have more plausible deniability than if you have, let's say, three.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: pkizenko98 on April 12, 2013, 08:28 pm
I live in the U.S. currently and names are linked to addresses.  In fact you are linked to every address you have ever resided at.  This information is primarily used for identification and for credit purposes.  The theory is that the longer you are at an address the more stable and reliable a person you are, at least when it comes to credit.  This is what they claim this information is primarily used for.  This is how "finder" sites can locate individuals by simply entering a name!

Again, like I said before. I don't think this is always true. It is in the case of a permanent address. But using the example of a college student at University, they would have a different, temporary address, from their registered permanent one (most likely their parents home).

If you put in their name on a finder site, the address that will come up is most likely the permanent one.

There are certainly cases where an address can be unlinked to a name. Though, it would probably seem that most of the time the name is linked.

I am not sure but I would take an educated guess that it all depends on how you register that address, so your example makes sense.  If you simply redirect your mail to a college then I do not believe it will be linked, at least not permanently.  This is a good thing to look into and I will be sure too.  Anyone reading should do the same, guessing at it serves no purpose.
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 12, 2013, 08:44 pm
lol you know i dont mean to discount a mods advice, but ive gotten away with getting multiple orders at the same time on multiple occasions.
paranoia is an aspect of evolution in my opinion. if you are always super careful chances are things will work out for you, BUT......

the goal of every vendor here is to send LEGIT looking packages... if they are legit looking packages, why the fuck would they get searched?

i dont think there is a reason to worry but i personally wouldnt order multiple packages from OUT of your country at one time, because customs are going to see your name multiple times and like someone said earlier, if one gets caught then everything coming in right after it will probably get caught too.

 ::)

I mostly referring to ordering from o/s, personally I would never use my home address or an address easily linked to me for international orders due to the risk of customs seizing it and LE kicking my door down. I don't know what its like in your country but where I am the chances of a domestic intercept are virtually non existent, I still wouldn't feel all that comfortable with multiple orders in transit though but that's just me.

Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: yodude420 on April 12, 2013, 08:52 pm
Both of my no shows are from the netherlands and one is from a new vendor and the other is from someone accused of being a selective scammer.  i should also mention ive had o/s mail arrive since the no shows
Title: Re: Multiple Orders to Same Address At One Time
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 14, 2013, 10:15 am
Those who still think making multiple orders to the same address at the same time may want to have a read of this thread posted today:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=135645.0