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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: rob0912 on March 17, 2013, 10:03 am
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pretty sure binxster is a scammer unfortunately ive just wasted over £1000 on him :'(
please if there is anyone that has actually received anything from him could they post here
and how can he have months of perfect reviews and no one saying hes a scammer until 2 days ago ? :S
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Did you FE? If so, why?
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i did he requires it and im sure many others have to i was sure he was legit hes been on the road for 7 months and had 100% positive feedback usually a scammer is worked out after the first few people have ordered
i do not understand how there is no feedback saying he a scammer when hes been doing it for so long
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Brought a HP off this guy, all seems to be a scam now, its supposed to get delivered 2morrow, will update if it arrives
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Yea, why not throw thousands at an anonymous internet dealer, fuck logic
Any of you muppets wanna FE me for 9 TONS of PURE DRUGS...
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he had good ratings throughout....
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lol, 2 minus k points for opening my keyboard....
ignore me, im coming down
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exactly what i thought man
there is no way he could carry on for 7 months and have no reviews saying hes a scam
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i know i dont get it, so gutted
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message silkroad about him surely if enough of us tell them we were scammed by this guy they can take the funds from his account back to ours he must of taken thousands of pounds lately surely there is something they can do
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already have probably no use though,
i really dont understand how he can have such good feedback for so long?
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Did their feedback drop from 100% to 90% today? very strange no one knows whats going on
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i dont know mate it makes no sence this is why i want SR to do something about it as he must have found a way to delete bad feedback or something
how long have you been waiting for your order and whats your location?
even after saying to him hes a scammer he still assures me it will be here monday
+ yes dropped 10% for 3 bad reviews :S
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hes assuring me that it will come monday too
waiting for it to get delivered to UK
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im in the same boat mate
im pretty sure its bullshit tho
he promised me express delivery so i email him about it he mails me back saying his mate forgot to ship express it will be here monday
than i see a review appear saying that he was promised express and did not get it but was still satisfied when he sees the product
but of a suspect review to appear within 2 hours of the email i sent
if it turns up i will be massively shocked
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yeah same thing here,
will just have to wait till 2morrow,
altho i hold next to no hope :(
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Silk road must be able to do something
thats over £2000 just between me and you + we know they can take funds from accounts so surely they could just freeze his account and return the coins to us its a lot of money and it makes me not want to use silk road if someone can fake that many reviews for such a long time
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maybe, we need some more people to come together to report it....
i know its part our mistake but also the way in which he had all positive feedback doesnt seem right to me
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exactly my point ive seen scammers on sr before and they last no more than 2 weeks before they have feedback saying scammer how can he go for 7 months?? :S
i want to post other places to get this going so we can hopefully all get our money back but i am new here and can only post in newbies :/
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fuk another one have you hit his report a vendors button ? the can freeze the money but you wont get f.. all back if you f.ed unfortunately
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exactly my point ive seen scammers on sr before and they last no more than 2 weeks before they have feedback saying scammer how can he go for 7 months?? :S
i want to post other places to get this going so we can hopefully all get our money back but i am new here and can only post in newbies :/
have a read here
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=133562.msg909325#msg909325
but get onto support and keep hitting that report a vendor button (it on his sellers page) at least it saves other from F.E ing
This is getting out of hand
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not yet going to wait until tomorrow to see if i do receive although i have put hes feedback down to 1 and said hes a scammer
he must of hacked sr or something he cannot possible have lasted 7 months without a single bad review so i feel sr should refund the money will have to speak to them and just hope for the best i suppose :/
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Silk road must be able to do something
thats over £2000 just between me and you + we know they can take funds from accounts so surely they could just freeze his account and return the coins to us its a lot of money and it makes me not want to use silk road if someone can fake that many reviews for such a long time
Did you F.E mate
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yes mate was required :(
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Get your money back? Getting out of hand? LOLOL
I am sorry but the silk road doesn't need to do anything for morons such as you guys. Silk road can't help all the stupid people who decide to FE. This isn't a scam, you gave your money to some random seller without receiving your product. You blatantly disregarded the escrow system in place and made a purely STUPID decision. So why don't you OWN UP to that stupid decision and stop whining and crying to SR when it doesn't work out? Stop wasting their time. And while you're at it stop FEing for ANYONE because that is what drives these scammers to keep coming back, idiots like you. You have the power to fix this more than anyone else; no one else is stupid enough to FE. The BIGGEST red flag someone is scamming is requesting to FE, there is NO BIGGER MORE OBVIOUS SIGN, NONE.
You honestly need them to completely disable buyer's ability to release funds so your dumb ass won't go in there and do it? How would that work exactly, how can SR do anything? You want SR to release the funds for you? What is the difference?
Too much sympathy for these 'victims' of their own stupidity...the scams will go away once you stop FEing moron, the silk road has doe something about it, it's called escrow, you CHOSE to ignore it.
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do you realise how many vendors require FE?
especially with large amounts
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this guy has 7 months of reviews and 100% feedback why would i not trust him ?
+you are clearly a complete asshole dont come here and abuse people because they are pissed off they lose over £1000 because a website they are using is cleary not working properly
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Even legit vendors go rogue. Very few of the original vendors from when this place started are still around. He easily could have run a legitimate business for 7 months and gotten all those 5/5 reviews, but decided that its time to drop this game before he gets caught. An honest person would just close up shop, but it should come as no surprise many vendors just rip off their last customers when they decide its time to quit.
Escrow is your friend. And even with escrow you still shouldn't be spending money you can't afford to lose here.
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Maybe what you need is someone to be an asshole instead of holding your hand.
Yes I know some sellers require FE, and like I just said if they do, DON'T use them. Simply as that.
Or FE if you must, but at the very least have the brains to realize the risk your taking, don't expect anything in return, and please stop posting about it. Learn to understand the risk you are taking instead of expecting other people to resolve your issue. SR has escrow. They advise to use it. Why is it THEIR problem YOU can't understand why?
Less sellers would ask for FE, and less scamming if people would stop FEing. Only those actually FEing for sellers can fix that. I don't care about how long they have been here, successful transactions...etc. Scamming is much more profitable doing it with built trust. Problem is SOME people trust sellers too much for stupid reasons and can't seem to use their own senses. SR should not be responsible for this, they would be busy with morons all day long.
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Get your money back? Getting out of hand? LOLOL
I am sorry but the silk road doesn't need to do anything for morons such as you guys. Silk road can't help all the stupid people who decide to FE. This isn't a scam, you gave your money to some random seller without receiving your product. You blatantly disregarded the escrow system in place and made a purely STUPID decision. So why don't you OWN UP to that stupid decision and stop whining and crying to SR when it doesn't work out? Stop wasting their time. And while you're at it stop FEing for ANYONE because that is what drives these scammers to keep coming back, idiots like you. You have the power to fix this more than anyone else; no one else is stupid enough to FE. The BIGGEST red flag someone is scamming is requesting to FE, there is NO BIGGER MORE OBVIOUS SIGN, NONE.
You honestly need them to completely disable buyer's ability to release funds so your dumb ass won't go in there and do it? How would that work exactly, how can SR do anything? You want SR to release the funds for you? What is the difference?
Too much sympathy for these 'victims' of their own stupidity...the scams will go away once you stop FEing moron, the silk road has doe something about it, it's called escrow, you CHOSE to ignore it.
who the fuk are you ??
someone asked about sr in 20 years http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=133183.0;topicseen
heres my post
I think theyd better start looking after the buyer esp the newbies (customers) today , this week month ,year ! or there wont be a silkroad in 5 years some other site will see the customers as clients and not allow them to be robbed so easily day in day out Esp the new buyers , its a shame to see them getting fuked everyday over the f.e confusion
What about NO F.E ALLOWED ON SR.
what you mean it was required Rob ?
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website they are using is cleary not working properly
lol idiot
YOU'RE NOT USING IT PROPERLY.
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Get your money back? Getting out of hand? LOLOL
I am sorry but the silk road doesn't need to do anything for morons such as you guys. Silk road can't help all the stupid people who decide to FE. This isn't a scam, you gave your money to some random seller without receiving your product. You blatantly disregarded the escrow system in place and made a purely STUPID decision. So why don't you OWN UP to that stupid decision and stop whining and crying to SR when it doesn't work out? Stop wasting their time. And while you're at it stop FEing for ANYONE because that is what drives these scammers to keep coming back, idiots like you. You have the power to fix this more than anyone else; no one else is stupid enough to FE. The BIGGEST red flag someone is scamming is requesting to FE, there is NO BIGGER MORE OBVIOUS SIGN, NONE.
You honestly need them to completely disable buyer's ability to release funds so your dumb ass won't go in there and do it? How would that work exactly, how can SR do anything? You want SR to release the funds for you? What is the difference?
Too much sympathy for these 'victims' of their own stupidity...the scams will go away once you stop FEing moron, the silk road has doe something about it, it's called escrow, you CHOSE to ignore it.
who the fuk are you ??
someone asked about sr in 20 years http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=133183.0;topicseen
heres my post
I think theyd better start looking after the buyer esp the newbies (customers) today , this week month ,year ! or there wont be a silkroad in 5 years some other site will see the customers as clients and not allow them to be robbed so easily day in day out Esp the new buyers , its a shame to see them getting fuked everyday over the f.e confusion
What about NO F.E ALLOWED ON SR.
what you mean it was required Rob ?
Required meaning the seller requires it or won't sell.
How would no FE allowed work? Have you really thought about how that would work? It wouldn't. Please tell me how you'd implement such a system as no FE allowed but sellers get paid in a timely manner? At some point you have to pay the seller. That is a responsibility of the buyer. Sellers would try to exploit any system/buyer in place to get funds before shipment, and the SR admins should not have to take on the responsibility of releasing people's funds FOR THEM. Point is ultimately the buyer has control of the funds and just needs to be smart about it. No amount of laws, rules or systems in place will 100% prevent stupid decisions and stupid people.
Would you have funds sent to sr admins who hold it until you tell them to release funds? How is this different than escrow? Would you not let the sellers have their funds until two weeks later? And who is to say the package did not get there? What effects might this have on sellers even wanting to sell here getting their funds later? That would take a lot of SR admins babysitting every situation and transaction. SO please tell me how would you take away FE???? How would you implement this to be 100% stupid-proof? Do tell.
FEing isn't the problem, escrow works perfectly; butt here is no fix for stupidity.
This site makes plenty from quality transactions through escrow. The silk road would be fine without all these newbies doing dumb shit. Hell the site even might run smoother. You know what I see in 20 years if SR holds all these newbies hands and 'protects' them? I see more scamming with all this FEing theses newbs are doing giving these scammers a profit, diluting the seller pool and site in general and I see surplus in time spent dealing with their dumb ass problems and situations that really only they, themselves can fix.
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Who am I?
I've been here since the beginning. I done tens of thousands in transactions. I have received every single order since the beginning and have had hundreds of transactions from sellers from all over the world.
I used my head, logic and senses in choosing these vendors and have been satisfied with every single transaction. I can't understand these noobs doing ZERO research, ignoring safety rules, and seemingly can''t find another seller who has what they want except ones who FE. I've been here too long to keep hearing this dumbass shit.
Learn your lesson. It was an expensive one but it was not a 'waste' if you learned something and can now use the SR more intelligently because of it.
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he said he needed FE else he would not send
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+ i am not new to sr i have been buying pounds of weed for a long time this seller seemed legit as you never see a scammer with so much feedback
+sr is not working properly because scammers are everywhere on it now soon it will be full of scammers and no one will want to use it
who wants to use something when you run the risk of losing money?
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never FE no matter what. ever. doesn't matter if you've ordered from the same guy 100 times, its the only way to protect yourself
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Who am I?
I've been here since the beginning. I done tens of thousands in transactions. I have received every single order since the beginning and have had hundreds of transactions from sellers from all over the world.
I used my head, logic and senses in choosing these vendors and have been satisfied with every single transaction. I can't understand these noobs doing ZERO research, ignoring safety rules, and seemingly can''t find another seller who has what they want except ones who FE. I've been here too long to keep hearing this dumbass shit.
Learn your lesson. It was an expensive one but it was not a 'waste' if you learned something and can now use the SR more intelligently because of it.
pmsl why you hiding behind a shill account , you one of these scam F.E vendors ? if not why hide ;D ;D
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+ i am not new to sr i have been buying pounds of weed for a long time this seller seemed legit as you never see a scammer with so much feedback
+sr is not working properly because scammers are everywhere on it now soon it will be full of scammers and no one will want to use it
who wants to use something when you run the risk of losing money?
+1 to you mate . true
eh ... make it a RULE ??? troll
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It sucks to lose that much cash but honestly you both fucked up hard, and now you're acting like complete fucking babies about it.
There are plenty of ways to maintain perfect feedback over a long period of time. First of all, you don't need to be actively selling anything for an account to appear active; Binxster may have registered the account 7 months ago, but only had any listings up for the past month. Second, since this is an ANONYMOUS drug forum, there is nothing to stop them from purchasing their own listings and leaving positive feedback. Contrary to what you believe, there have been some high profile weed scammers on SR recently that have done exactly this, and made off quite well. Third, they could have performed a 'selective scam', where product was sent out only to certain users, possibly only those ordering small amounts (or Binxster may have only listed small amounts prior to posting scam bulk listings).
In fact, now that I actually look at Binxsters profile page, his first feedback is from only a month ago! Surprise surprise! Even more suspiciously at least the first 100 purchases (I stopped counting) were for the exact same QP listing, and all the feedback looks nearly identical (notice how the first letter of every single feedback is capitalized)! Not only would it be extremely odd for a vendor to sell 100 QPs right off the bat, but no one would in their right mind would FE on a QP with no prior feedback to go off of. Also, clearly neither of you searched his name on the forums, because if you had, you'd realize that nothing comes up! He wasn't even a good fucking scammer, but already you two single-handedly made the whole endeavor worth his time. Congratulations.
Your money is long gone, and no marrymemetal is almost definitely not the guy who scammed you, he is just trying to knock some sense into you.
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It sucks to lose that much cash but honestly you both fucked up hard, and now you're acting like complete fucking babies about it.
There are plenty of ways to maintain perfect feedback over a long period of time. First of all, you don't need to be actively selling anything for an account to appear active; Binxster may have registered the account 7 months ago, but only had any listings up for the past month. Second, since this is an ANONYMOUS drug forum, there is nothing to stop them from purchasing their own listings and leaving positive feedback. Contrary to what you believe, there have been some high profile weed scammers on SR recently that have done exactly this, and made off quite well. Third, they could have performed a 'selective scam', where product was sent out only to certain users, possibly only those ordering small amounts (or Binxster may have only listed small amounts prior to posting scam bulk listings).
In fact, now that I actually look at Binxsters profile page, his first feedback is from only a month ago! Surprise surprise! Even more suspiciously at least the first 100 purchases (I stopped counting) were for the exact same QP listing, and all the feedback looks nearly identical (notice how the first letter of every single feedback is capitalized)! Not only would it be extremely odd for a vendor to sell 100 QPs right off the bat, but no one would in their right mind would FE on a QP with no prior feedback to go off of. Also, clearly neither of you searched his name on the forums, because if you had, you'd realize that nothing comes up! He wasn't even a good fucking scammer, but already you two single-handedly made the whole endeavor worth his time. Congratulations.
Your money is long gone, and no marrymemetal is almost definitely not the guy who scammed you, he is just trying to knock some sense into you.
2 shills in a row from f.e vendors ??? ;D ;D
Man Im gutted for you and if what ^ your man says is true & he knows it :o why didnt Sr notice all the same feedback for qp orders and the fake feedback ? I dont get all this shite >:(
they should have his btc frozen ... and they did get fees from each sale so should care a hell of a lot more an finally deal about this F.e scam issue esp for newbies
again sorry guys esp if this is your first experience on Sr ....not good :(
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It sucks to lose that much cash but honestly you both fucked up hard, and now you're acting like complete fucking babies about it.
There are plenty of ways to maintain perfect feedback over a long period of time. First of all, you don't need to be actively selling anything for an account to appear active; Binxster may have registered the account 7 months ago, but only had any listings up for the past month. Second, since this is an ANONYMOUS drug forum, there is nothing to stop them from purchasing their own listings and leaving positive feedback. Contrary to what you believe, there have been some high profile weed scammers on SR recently that have done exactly this, and made off quite well. Third, they could have performed a 'selective scam', where product was sent out only to certain users, possibly only those ordering small amounts (or Binxster may have only listed small amounts prior to posting scam bulk listings).
In fact, now that I actually look at Binxsters profile page, his first feedback is from only a month ago! Surprise surprise! Even more suspiciously at least the first 100 purchases (I stopped counting) were for the exact same QP listing, and all the feedback looks nearly identical (notice how the first letter of every single feedback is capitalized)! Not only would it be extremely odd for a vendor to sell 100 QPs right off the bat, but no one would in their right mind would FE on a QP with no prior feedback to go off of. Also, clearly neither of you searched his name on the forums, because if you had, you'd realize that nothing comes up! He wasn't even a good fucking scammer, but already you two single-handedly made the whole endeavor worth his time. Congratulations.
Your money is long gone, and no marrymemetal is almost definitely not the guy who scammed you, he is just trying to knock some sense into you.
2 shills in a row from f.e vendors ??? ;D ;D
Man Im gutted for you and if what ^ your man says is true & he knows it :o why didnt Sr notice all the same feedback for qp orders and the fake feedback ? I dont get all this shite >:(
they should have his btc frozen ... and they did get fees from each sale so should care a hell of a lot more an finally deal about this F.e scam issue esp for newbies
again sorry guys esp if this is your first experience on Sr ....not good :(
For those of you who do not know, edar had their vendor account banned for feedback tampering and is rather butt hurt to be caught out as scamming so is now on a personal crusade to incite others by making posts like the one above.
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he said he needed FE else he would not send
Then you should have gone elsewhere mate, the fewer people who support vendors who insist on FE the better.
If you FE you assume all the risk, that is YOUR decision and no one elses. No one makes you FE, if you do it then own your decision and do not blame others for the choices you make.
The FE debate will go on forever, it will not be 'banned' as FE isn't the problem, it is the buyers problem. Know the risks and act accordingly.
I FE for one vendor, I take full responsibility for my actions and if anything ever were to go wrong I would not be crying about it on the forums, I take responsibility for my own decisions.
This may sound a bit harsh to those who may have just been scammed but there is no way of dressing this up and people need to wise up on this issue because quite frankly I am fed up reading about scams where hoards of people have been drawn into FE and then losing their coins.
Simple solution, DO NOT FE.
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It sucks to lose that much cash but honestly you both fucked up hard, and now you're acting like complete fucking babies about it.
There are plenty of ways to maintain perfect feedback over a long period of time. First of all, you don't need to be actively selling anything for an account to appear active; Binxster may have registered the account 7 months ago, but only had any listings up for the past month. Second, since this is an ANONYMOUS drug forum, there is nothing to stop them from purchasing their own listings and leaving positive feedback. Contrary to what you believe, there have been some high profile weed scammers on SR recently that have done exactly this, and made off quite well. Third, they could have performed a 'selective scam', where product was sent out only to certain users, possibly only those ordering small amounts (or Binxster may have only listed small amounts prior to posting scam bulk listings).
In fact, now that I actually look at Binxsters profile page, his first feedback is from only a month ago! Surprise surprise! Even more suspiciously at least the first 100 purchases (I stopped counting) were for the exact same QP listing, and all the feedback looks nearly identical (notice how the first letter of every single feedback is capitalized)! Not only would it be extremely odd for a vendor to sell 100 QPs right off the bat, but no one would in their right mind would FE on a QP with no prior feedback to go off of. Also, clearly neither of you searched his name on the forums, because if you had, you'd realize that nothing comes up! He wasn't even a good fucking scammer, but already you two single-handedly made the whole endeavor worth his time. Congratulations.
Your money is long gone, and no marrymemetal is almost definitely not the guy who scammed you, he is just trying to knock some sense into you.
2 shills in a row from f.e vendors ??? ;D ;D
Not a shill retard, this account is 9 months old. I've been here since the very beginning though too, and that's why I'm not clueless like you are (well, and my brain manages to function at a reasonable level).
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@ hell with 24 post , man youve been chilling 8) retard clueless community spirit eh ;D
@ For those of you who do not know, edar had their vendor account banned for feedback tampering and is rather butt hurt to be caught out as scamming so is now on a personal crusade to incite others by making posts like the one above.
facts
2 fake feed backs is scamming ? wow (thats what I did) anyway personal crusade ? to do what help newbies with F.E problems ? explain they get nothing if the F.e ? report scamming vendors (money stealers) not feedback fakers and get some answers to rules of Sr these questions are inciting others to ask some serious question about Sr , F.e rules ? really ? wow Id love to take all the credit for that bud but maybe there asking these questions by themselves
I asked a question about new accounts on the other thread that you didnt even answer before it was locked ?
can you tell me here then please
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@ hell with 24 post , man youve been chilling 8) retard clueless community spirit eh ;D
@ For those of you who do not know, edar had their vendor account banned for feedback tampering and is rather butt hurt to be caught out as scamming so is now on a personal crusade to incite others by making posts like the one above.
facts
2 fake feed backs is scamming ? wow (thats what I did) anyway personal crusade ? to do what help newbies with F.E problems ? explain they get nothing if the F.e ? report scamming vendors (money stealers) not feedback fakers and get some answers to rules of Sr these questions are inciting others to ask some serious question about Sr , F.e rules ? really ? wow Id love to take all the credit for that bud but maybe there asking these questions by themselves
I asked a question about new accounts on the other thread that you didnt even answer before it was locked ?
can you tell me here then please
Incorrect, I did answer your sensible questions regarding how many transactions a vendor needs to make before they can ask buyers to FE. Maybe go back and have another read.
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@ hell with 24 post , man youve been chilling 8) retard clueless community spirit eh ;D
@ For those of you who do not know, edar had their vendor account banned for feedback tampering and is rather butt hurt to be caught out as scamming so is now on a personal crusade to incite others by making posts like the one above.
facts
2 fake feed backs is scamming ? wow (thats what I did) anyway personal crusade ? to do what help newbies with F.E problems ? explain they get nothing if the F.e ? report scamming vendors (money stealers) not feedback fakers and get some answers to rules of Sr these questions are inciting others to ask some serious question about Sr , F.e rules ? really ? wow Id love to take all the credit for that bud but maybe there asking these questions by themselves
I asked a question about new accounts on the other thread that you didnt even answer before it was locked ?
can you tell me here then please
Incorrect, I did answer your sensible questions regarding how many transactions a vendor needs to make before they can ask buyers to FE. Maybe go back and have another read.
I also asked will my old account affect our new account ?
anyway good to see this scamming cnnt gone