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Title: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: masterblaster on February 19, 2013, 04:12 am
I got this from bromine in another thread, i think this deserves its own:

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For those of you concerned about your face on a camera, you can always take the time to construct a infra-red LED hat.  Search it out on the surface web.  Pretty easy to do, involves a 9 volt battery, some wires, and some infra-red LEDs near your face on the underside of the hat.  Makes your face look like a glowing ball of light to a camera, but not visible to the human eye.

As for the rest of yourself, change your outfit every time you go, and to make it even harder to track you, use different facilities.  IE don't follow a pattern.

Just my .02 after reading this whole thread.

-Bromine
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 19, 2013, 04:49 am
That's a bloody awesome idea  :)
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: hands off black 7 on February 19, 2013, 07:54 am
The footage on the clearnet of dudes trying this out is amazing... Instead of a recognisable face, all you can see on the screen is a glowing blob of light.....
Don't think they're any good in the day time though....  I reckon they'd work on number plates too.....
I'm fucken sick of those bloody new pig vans with the special camera on it that can tell if you've farted anytime in the last 10 years. A couple of annoying unpaid fines and some gear in the card can really put you in the  shizen.
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: tango on February 19, 2013, 12:36 pm
are the lights actually invisible to the human eye? or are they lighting up blue because its filmed through a camera?
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: Jonny Bench on February 19, 2013, 05:50 pm
IR is completely invisible to the human eye but will light up bright on a camera.
They will also light up with night vision.
This is a very good idea, my first thought as well was adding these to license plates.
Looks like I'm off to the hardware store.
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: acider on February 19, 2013, 06:06 pm
I am not an expert by any chance but I know that some cameras have IR filters. Especially those intended for day time surveillance.
I have no idea about cctv cameras though, just do some research to be sure before you buy.
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: Mishrume on February 19, 2013, 06:55 pm
IR is damaging to the human eye. Don't orient them towards your face. Just something to think about. Fucking excellent idea tho!
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: camomug on February 19, 2013, 07:17 pm
IR is damaging to the human eye. Don't orient them towards your face. Just something to think about. Fucking excellent idea tho!

Good point. I'll construct one of these and test how it works.
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: masterblaster on February 19, 2013, 08:34 pm
I am not an expert by any chance but I know that some cameras have IR filters. Especially those intended for day time surveillance.
I have no idea about cctv cameras though, just do some research to be sure before you buy.

IR filtering does raise the bar for how much IR you have to output but it doesnt make it impossible.

Here's another idea, make a burning laser flashlight and fry their cameras, then come back the next day and deliver.

http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-make-a-burning-laser-flashlight
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: masterblaster on February 19, 2013, 09:26 pm
One issue with frying the sensors with the dvd laser flashlight is that its very visible, might be kinda hard to shine that in the PO without anyone noticing....

Heres a better solution if u got the cash (u should since ur a dealer)

http://www.laserglow.com/GSD

Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: Dopamin on February 19, 2013, 10:32 pm
I see some flaws with that idea:

Won't you be the last thing that the camera records before its sensor is destroyed?

How can you be sure the sensor is destroyed?

What if the recording is watched by a security guy in real time?

Overall, this idea is a bit of hocus-pocus to me.
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 19, 2013, 10:39 pm
I am not an expert by any chance but I know that some cameras have IR filters. Especially those intended for day time surveillance.
I have no idea about cctv cameras though, just do some research to be sure before you buy.

IR filtering does raise the bar for how much IR you have to output but it doesnt make it impossible.

Here's another idea, make a burning laser flashlight and fry their cameras, then come back the next day and deliver.

http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-make-a-burning-laser-flashlight

That's fucking mental!!
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: signal16 on February 20, 2013, 12:23 am
IR is damaging to the human eye. Don't orient them towards your face. Just something to think about. Fucking excellent idea tho!

i think you might be confusing IR infared light with UV ultraviolet, the wattages used in small led IR lights isnt going to do much to your eye.  remember ir is felt as heat...
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: caerus on February 20, 2013, 12:28 am
What if the recording is watched by a security guy in real time?
This is a very good point, as you'd probably catch attention even if the said guy is monitoring 100s of cameras
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: masterblaster on February 20, 2013, 01:24 am
I see some flaws with that idea:

Won't you be the last thing that the camera records before its sensor is destroyed?


Well you probably have to wear the IR hat.

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What if the recording is watched by a security guy in real time?

Thats a good question, anyone know someone who worked in a PO who might know if they have that? Definitely would cause problems with the whole IR hat thing.

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How can you be sure the sensor is destroyed?


I'd assume you'd probably get a few different CCTV cameras that are commonly used, maybe one with extra IR filtration, and test your laser on it.

Look im not suggesting walking into a PO with an invisible 1.5W laser, chances are you'll end up setting someones hair on fire before you actually take down their cameras, but maybe you run into a situation where a camera is pointed in your direction and you either walk into and get caught or you destroy it without anyone noticing. Just an idea, i think the real question here is how you aim an invisible laser.....
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: Dopamin on February 20, 2013, 07:30 am


 chances are you'll end up setting someones hair on fire before you actually take down their cameras

fuck this whole drug-selling-thing, just start doing this  ::)
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: Bungee54 on February 21, 2013, 07:28 pm


 chances are you'll end up setting someones hair on fire before you actually take down their cameras

fuck this whole drug-selling-thing, just start doing this  ::)

+1  ;D
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: Mishrume on February 21, 2013, 07:37 pm
IR is damaging to the human eye. Don't orient them towards your face. Just something to think about. Fucking excellent idea tho!

i think you might be confusing IR infared light with UV ultraviolet, the wattages used in small led IR lights isnt going to do much to your eye.  remember ir is felt as heat...
Whatever helps you sleep at night mate ;)
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: meatwad on February 21, 2013, 10:20 pm
Damn! I came to this thread fully expecting there to be a place I could purchase one of these!  Hopefully some vendor will offer a few of these for sale in the near future.
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: masterblaster on February 21, 2013, 11:58 pm
Damn! I came to this thread fully expecting there to be a place I could purchase one of these!  Hopefully some vendor will offer a few of these for sale in the near future.

Unlikely as vendors would be the only one buying these.
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: Shroomeister on February 22, 2013, 12:20 am
This is a rehash of an old idea.

There is a video of this on you tube...although they end product could have been much better.

There was a thread on THESE forums about this a while ago also - at which point I personally was commissioned to build one for somebody.

That person never turned up, I never built it and even though I had intended to still build some - now I simply do not have the time.

If made correctly a device like this could be totally effective - if made even a bit less it will be total crap.
Title: Re: IR hat blinds cameras, renders you anonymous
Post by: wraithe on March 13, 2013, 01:27 am
IR Hats are useless in daylight.  Only work in dim lit areas and IR Leds depending on which you get have a small angle.  18degrees or 40degrees.  40degree arent very bright and 18deg do not cover much of the area.  So unless you kill the lights before you go in, this is not feasible.  And yes I have 40 leds from the last one i made.  Im a tinkerer lol.

IR will not work for license plates.  will work for most cctv systems though, atleast the ones I tried where I knew the owner. But again had to be dark (i.e. outside doing stuff) walking into the store that was brightly lit did not work well.